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, who is this doctor you are consulting with? Is he in

Missouri?

Missy

>

> Thanks , I just spoke with this doctor and he did indicate

that

> it would probably be okay to stick with the H/C for now. He also

said

> that I need to get my thyroid levels up before I try to

aggressively

> attack the candida because this will help eliminate a lot of the

> candida problem. So, he did make it sound like thyroid can

contribute

> to yeast overgrowth problems. He did however, talk about the

> inconsistency in Armour that many docs do talk about and also

about

> keeping the option of swithcing to a synthetic such as levoxyl

> open....yeah right! That went in one ear and out the other. He

said to

> do this though only if I find that the Armour is not working at

getting

> the body temp up. When I told him I was on 3 grains and increasing

> though, he didn't seem alarmed at all. He said it is okay to keep

> increasing until the body temp comes up.

> Thanks again,

>

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- I am experiencing the same problem. I have been taking

Isocort for a few months, now Prednisolone in the last week, and have

had a yeast infection for the past 4 weeks. It's a catch 22

situation, as raising the thyroid will help fight the candida, yet

you can't do that without taking cortisol to help the adrenals. I

guess all you can do is be very strict on diet, and take probiotics?

I also read something in Andy Cutler's book about taking Vitamin A to

improve immune function. Are you doing anything else?

Nicola

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>

> I have a phone consult today with a doctor who is going to help me

with

> my chronic candida overgrowth. Now, I've been taking HC for 5-6

weeks

> now and my candida has definitely worsened. My monthly yeast

infection

> is worse than it has been in a very long time. Also, I have other

> symptoms related to candida that are worsening. In the HC insert to

the

> med it says if you have thurush/candida you should consult your

doctor,

> I'm assuming because the HC can worsen this condition and in my

case it

> has. I'm currently taking this, plus sea salt and am wondering if I

> would possibly be able to switch back to the Isocort without

problems.

> I don't know yet as I have not spoken with the doctor, but I'm

thinking

> he's going to want me OFF of the HC in order to control this

candida

> monster I have. I'm currently holding at 3 grains for 2 weeks now.

I

> know for a fact that I cannot tolerate Armour without the adrenal

> support because I've tried it before :(

> Thanks for you input....

>

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I don't know where you are getting this information that taking HC will

make yeast worse. I am willing to bet it is a side effect of HIGH doses

much higher than we take for adrenal support, and at immunosuppressive

dosages. Cortisol only suppresses immune function at dosages over 40MG a

day. Less than that and at replacement dosages it enhances immune

function. Here are some examples of where HC creams are recommended for

TREATMENT for Candida and yeast infections.

http://www.skinsite.com/info_candida.htm

http://www.browardhealth.org/111565.cfm

http://www.mypharmacy.co.uk/medicines/medicines/c/canesten/canesten_hydrocortiso\

ne.htm

http://www.medsafe.govt.nz/profs/Datasheet/d/daktacortcrm.htm

Not be honest, if it caused yeast overgrowth or made it worse, would it

be recommended as part of the treatment for it?

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>>told me today that immune response is not

operative in the intestines???? and that, therefore, Pred. could not

lower the immune response in order to allow Candida to flourish.<<

I don't know about that, but I do know that your body makes Cortisol,

and as long as people do not take more than their body should be making,

it will not causes any problems with yeast or Candida. What I have found

that causes it and makes it worse if you do have it is low thyroid.

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> >>told me today that immune response is not

> operative in the intestines???? and that, therefore, Pred. could not

> lower the immune response in order to allow Candida to flourish.<<

>

> I don't know about that, but I do know that your body makes Cortisol,

> and as long as people do not take more than their body should be

making,

> it will not causes any problems with yeast or Candida. What I have

found

> that causes it and makes it worse if you do have it is low thyroid.

Hi Val

What I was wondering about was this. When cortisol is raised (stage 2?)

then is it possible that this increased amount of cortisol could be

equal to or higher than the physiological dose i.e. 20 mg? If yes, then

any existing candida would flourish at this point. We are told that

stress contributes to candida and my theory is that it is in this

fashion that it does so.

That being the case, then if we take high doses of steroids, the

existing candida will balloon up causing all sorts of problems.

It is a problem, keeping it at bay, until - as you say - the thyroid

balances and sorts the whole sorry mess out.

Mo

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> >>told me today that immune response is not

> operative in the intestines???? and that, therefore, Pred. could not

> lower the immune response in order to allow Candida to flourish.<<

>

>

I'm not up on the candida issue in general, but do know that the

immune system functions very diffently in the digestive tract than in

the rest of the body -- different cell types, filtering mechanisms,

etc -- or else we'd mount an immune response to everything " foreign "

we eat. So I guess it makes sense that a physiological dose of pred

would not make the candida worse.

Jen

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