Guest guest Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 what is this? I don't get it, and I am a dog lover so I am trying not to be irritated by it? Jenna > > > From: " Lana Transue " <lanadearest@h...> > > saxony01@y... > > Subject: What happen to the dog studies? > > Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 00:27:25 -0800 > > > > After trying to explain to a friend today why > > marijauna is illeagal, I > > decided to see what the FDA has to say about it. I > > found it very interesting > > that the first step in an approval process is to do > > a study on dogs. Now I > > am not saying that they should use dogs for the > > implant research but it is > > suppose to be the FIRST STEP of the approval > > proceedure. What happen to the > > dog studies on the implants? I know how bad the > > original dog studies were, > > but what happen to the studies being done on dogs > > before th current approval > > applications were submitted? Lana > > > > FDA reviews the IND for assurance that the proposed > > studies, generally > > referred to as clinical trials, do not place human > > subjects at unreasonable > > risk of harm. FDA also verifies that there are > > adequate assurances of > > informed consent and human subject protection. At > > that point the first of > > three phases of study in humans can begin. > > > > What about the enconclusive tests that have been > > done on secondary exposure? > > > > > > FDA Home Page | Search FDA Site | FDA A-Z Index | > > Contact FDA > > > > > > > > Testimony by > > J. Meyer, M.D. > > Director > > Office of Drug Evaluation II > > Center for Drug Evaluation and Research > > Food and Drug Administration > > U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES > > before the > > Subcommittee on Criminal Justice, Drug Policy, and > > Human Resources > > Committee on Government Reform > > House of Representatives > > > > April 1, 2004 > > > > INTRODUCTION > > > > Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman and Members of the > > Subcommittee. I am Dr. > > Meyer, Director of the Office of Drug > > Evaluation II at the Food and > > Drug Administration's (FDA or the Agency), Center > > for Drug Evaluation and > > Research (CDER). I am pleased to be here today with > > my colleague, Dr. Nora > > Volkow, Director of the National Institute on Drug > > Abuse (NIDA). FDA > > appreciates the opportunity to discuss the need for > > a science-based approach > > to evaluating the merits of marijuana for medicinal > > purposes. > > > > In my testimony today, I will first describe the FDA > > drug approval process. > > Second, I will clarify FDA's role in facilitating > > the objective evaluation > > of the potential merits of cannabinoids for medical > > uses as well as FDA's > > role with respect to enforcement efforts relating to > > Schedule I Controlled > > Substances such as marijuana. > > > > FDA APPROVAL PROCESS > > > > FDA's primary mission for over 90 years has been to > > promote and protect the > > public health, under the authority of the Federal > > Food, Drug, and Cosmetic > > (FD & C) Act and the Public Health Service Act. These > > statutes were enacted > > and amended, in part, in response to public health > > tragedies resulting from > > the sale to, and use by, an unsuspecting public of > > unsafe and ineffective > > products sold as medicines and medical devices. The > > FD & C Act requires that > > new drugs be shown to be safe and effective before > > being marketed in this > > country. > > > > The single most important public health provision in > > these statutes is the > > requirement that a person wishing to sell to the > > public a product to > > prevent, cure or mitigate illness or injury must > > first prove that such > > product is safe, and actually does what the vendor > > claims it does. This > > statutory provision affords patients the most > > effective protection against > > untested and unproven products. > > > > A new drug or biologic (referred to in this > > statement as a drug) may not be > > distributed in interstate commerce (except for > > clinical studies under an > > investigational new drug application) until a > > sponsor, usually the drug > > manufacturer, has submitted and FDA has approved a > > new drug application > > (NDA) or a biologics license application (BLA) for > > the product. For > > approval, an NDA or BLA must contain sufficient > > scientific evidence > > demonstrating the safety and effectiveness of the > > drug for its intended > > uses. > > > > The evidence of safety and effectiveness usually is > > obtained through > > controlled clinical trials. The disciplined, > > systematic, scientific conduct > > of such trials is the most effective and certain > > means of obtaining the data > > that document safety and efficacy of a drug and how > > to use the new product > > so that it will have the most beneficial effect. > > > > A. INVESTIGATIONAL NEW DRUG APPLICATION PROCESS > > The first step a sponsor usually must take to obtain > > approval for a new drug > > is to test the drug in animals for toxicity. The > > sponsor then takes that > > animal testing data, along with additional > > information about the drug's > > composition and manufacturing, and develops a plan > > for testing the drug in > > humans. The sponsor submits these data, along with > > proposed studies, the > > qualifications of the investigators who will conduct > > the clinical studies, > > and assurances of informed consent and protection of > > the rights and safety > > of the human subjects, to FDA in the form of an > > investigational new drug > > application (IND). > > > > FDA reviews the IND for assurance that the proposed > > studies, generally > > referred to as clinical trials, do not place human > > subjects at unreasonable > > risk of harm. FDA also verifies that there are > > adequate assurances of > > informed consent and human subject protection. At > > that point the first of > > three phases of study in humans can begin. Phase I > > studies primarily focus > > on the safety of the drug in humans. Phase I studies > > carefully assess how to > > safely administer and dose the drug with an emphasis > > on evaluation of the > > toxic manifestations of the therapy, how the body > > distributes and degrades > > the drug, and how side effects relate to dose. Phase > > I studies typically > > include fewer than 100 healthy volunteers or > > subjects. > > > > Phase II studies are clinical studies to explore the > > effectiveness of the > > drug for a particular indication over a range of > > doses and to determine > > common short-term side effects. Phase II studies > > typically involve a few > > hundred subjects. Once Phase II studies are > > successfully completed, the > > drug's sponsor has learned much about the drug's > > appropriate dosing and its > > apparent safety and effectiveness. The next step is > > to conduct Phase III > > studies involving up to several thousand subjects. > > These studies establish > > efficacy for a particular indication, examine > > additional uses, may provide > > further safety data including long-term experience, > > and consider additional > > population subsets, dose response, etc. FDA strongly > > encourages sponsors to > > work closely with the Agency in planning definitive > > Phase III clinical > > trials to help assure that the trials are designed > > to have the greatest > > likelihood of producing results sufficient to > > provide adequate data and > > permit the Agency to make appropriate decisions > > about the safety and > > efficacy of the product. > > > > Once Phase III trials are completed, the sponsor > > submits the results of all > > the relevant testing to FDA in the form of an NDA. > > FDA's medical officers, > > chemists, statisticians, and pharmacologists review > > the application to > > determine if the sponsor's data in fact show that > > the drug is both safe and > > effective. The drug's manufacturing process is > > evaluated to confirm that the > > product can be produced consistently with high > > quality. It is common to > > allow subjects in Phase II and III studies to > > continue on a therapy if it > > seems to be providing benefit. This practice > > provides long-term safety > > information at an early stage in this process. At > > present, there are > > literally thousands of clinical trials ongoing, > > involving hundreds of > > thousands of subjects. There are over 15,000 active > > INDs for drugs, > > therapeutic biologics, and biologics filed with the > > Agency. > > > > Results of controlled clinical trials are the basis > > of evidence-based > > medicine. These allow physicians and patients to use > > therapies with a clear > > understanding of their benefits and risks and, in > > some cases, a basis for > > strong public health recommendations for treatments. > > > > Clinical trials also have saved us from unwanted > > public health consequences. > > For example, when azidothymidine (AZT) was the only > > approved AIDS treatment, > > dideoxycytidine (ddC) was made available under > > treatment-IND for the several > > years while clinical trials were underway. These > > trials were to assess > > whether ddC was superior to AZT or if it was > > effective for patients > > intolerant of AZT. Although the product, ddC, could > > cause permanent, > > sometimes severe nerve damage, there was great > > demand for early access to > > the product. It was even manufactured by sources > > other than the company > > (probably by amateur chemists) and this " bathtub " > > ddC was made available > > through buyers clubs when the demand exceeded the > > sponsor's supply. FDA > > acted with the sponsor, the buyers clubs, patient > > advocates, and > > investigators to make more of the drug available and > > get the illicit, poorly > > manufactured product off the market. > > > > What did the ddC clinical trials show? In a > > head-to-head comparison versus > > AZT as initial therapy, an independent data safety > > monitoring board stopped > > the trial early because the death rate in the ddC > > group was at least twice > > higher than in the AZT group. For patients > > intolerant to AZT, a clinical > > trial compared switching to ddC versus > > dideoxyinosine (ddI). In this study > > the trend was that ddC had superior survival to ddI. > > Later studies showed > > that ddC in combination with AZT had superior > > survival to AZT alone. Each of > > these studies involved hundreds of patients and was > > essential to determining > > where ddC improved survival and where it did not. > > Although some of the early > > access uses were later found to be poor choices, > > physicians considered it > > reasonable at the time to provide the drug while the > > question was still > > being answered. The important point is that patients > > are only well served by > > early access when the controlled clinical trials > > proceed in parallel with > > early access. > > > > A second example that illustrates the importance of > > conducting clinical > > trials is the recently announced results of the > > Women's Health Initiative > > (WHI) study of estrogen and progesterone in treating > > post-menopausal women > > conducted by the National Institutes of Health. This > > large (more than 16,000 > > women), scientifically rigorous clinical trial was > > done to confirm the > > widely held belief that estrogen/progesterone > > therapy in post-menopausal > > women would significantly reduce the risk of > > cardiovascular events, such as > > heart attacks and strokes. There was also some hope > > that this > > post-menopausal therapy might lessen the onset of > > Alzheimer's disease. These > > widely held beliefs were based on scientific > > evidence that was not from > > clinical trials, such as epidemiology. On the > > strengths of these beliefs, > > post-menopausal hormone therapy was very widely used > > and growing in > > popularity. > > > > The WHI trial or post-menopausal > > estrogen/progesterone preceded but was > > stopped early due to an excess of harm in women > > taking these drugs compared > > to placebo. Surprisingly and importantly, women > > given the active drugs were > > more likely to suffer heart attacks and strokes and > > appeared to be more > > likely to develop dementia. This study not only > > failed to prove the widely > > held notion that this therapy was good for > > preventing these types of > > occurrences, but actually confirmed harm. These > > important results have led > > to significant changes in the use of post-menopausal > > hormones. > > > > FDA sometimes uncovers individuals who do not comply > > with statutory and > > regulatory drug approval requirements. This puts > > patients at risk of using > > unproven products and also denies to all patients > > the knowledge of whether > > the untested therapies may actually work. > > Distribution of unproven products > > and subsequent widespread use combined with little > > accountability or > > liability reduces the incentive for manufacturers > > and health care > > practitioners to conduct studies of safety and > > effectiveness. We constantly > > work to find ways to make safe and effective > > products available to patients > > as quickly and efficiently as possible, consistent > > with the protections > > established in the law. It is essential to preserve > > the system of controlled > > clinical trials that provides the information > > necessary to make the final > > determination on the safety and effectiveness of > > unapproved products. The > > two concepts, the protection of public health and > > making available > > treatments for individuals, can and must co-exist. > > > > B. HUMAN SUBJECT PROTECTION > > The FD & C Act and its implementing regulations are > > one part of a complex > > system of safeguards designed to protect human > > subjects. Each participant in > > a research effort --the company that sponsors the > > research, the clinical > > investigator who conducts the research, and the > > Institutional Review Board > > (IRB) is obliged to protect the interests of the > > people who are taking part > > in the experiments. FDA's responsibility is to see > > that the safeguards are > > met. FDA monitors the activities of research > > sponsors, researchers, IRBs and > > others involved in the trial. We take very seriously > > our role to protect > > people enrolled in clinical trials. > > > > The sponsors of research --usually, manufacturers or > > academic bodies, but > > sometimes individual physicians --must select > > well?qualified clinical > > investigators, design scientifically-sound > > protocols, make sure that the > > research is properly conducted, and make certain > > that the clinical > > investigators conduct the research in compliance > > with all pertinent > > regulations, including requirements for obtaining > > informed consent and > > review by an IRB. The primary regulatory obligations > > of the clinical > > investigator are to: 1) conduct or supervise the > > study; 2) conduct the study > > according to the approved protocol or research plan; > > 3) ensure that the > > study is reviewed and approved by an IRB that is > > constituted and functioning > > according to FDA and other Federal requirements; 4) > > obtain informed consent; > > 5) maintain adequate and accurate records of study > > observations (including > > adverse reactions); 6) administer the drug only to > > subjects under the > > investigator's personal supervision or under the > > supervision of a > > sub-investigator responsible to the investigator; 7) > > report to the sponsor > > adverse experiences that occur in the course of the > > investigation; and 8) > > promptly report to the IRB all unanticipated > > problems involving risks to > > humans or others. > > > > The core of FDA's informed consent regulations, > > Title 21, Code of Federal > > Regulations (CFR) Part 50, is that the clinical > > investigator must generally > > obtain the informed consent of a human subject or > > his/her legally authorized > > representative before any FDA?regulated research can > > be conducted. The > > researcher has to make sure that, whenever possible, > > the study participants > > fully understand the potential risks and benefits of > > the experiment before > > the experiment begins. The information provided must > > be in a language > > understandable to the subject, and must not require > > the subject to waive any > > legal rights, or release those conducting the study > > from liability for > > negligence. The clinical investigator must tell the > > human subjects important > > information about the study and its potential > > consequences so that the > > person can decide whether to be in the experiment. > > The entire informed > > consent process involves giving the subject all the > > information concerning > > the study that he or she would reasonably want to > > know, ensuring that the > > subject has comprehended this information, and > > obtaining the subject's > > written consent to participate. > > > > An IRB is a group (consisting of experts and lay > > persons) formally > > designated to review, approve the initiation of, and > > periodically review the > > progress of, research involving human subjects. The > > primary function of IRBs > > is to protect the rights and welfare of the people > > who are in trials. FDA's > > regulations, 21 CFR Part 56, contain the general > > standards for the > > composition, operation, and responsibility of an IRB > > that reviews clinical > > investigations submitted to FDA under sections > > 505(i), and 520(g) of the > > FD & C Act. IRBs must scrutinize and approve each of > > the clinical trials that > > are conducted on FDA-regulated products in this > > country each year. IRBs must > > develop and follow procedures for their initial and > > continuing review of the > > trials. Among other requirements, IRBs must make > > sure that the risks to > > subjects are minimized and do not outweigh the > > anticipated study benefits, > > that the selection of participants is equitable, > > that there are adequate > > plans to monitor data gathered in the trial and > > provisions to protect the > > privacy of subjects and the confidentiality of data. > > The IRB has the > > authority to approve, modify, or disapprove a > > clinical trial. The IRB must > > approve the informed consent form that will be used. > > If the researchers fail > > to adhere to IRB requirements, the IRB has the > > authority and the > > responsibility to take appropriate steps, which may > > include termination of > > the trial. The IRB is required to conduct continuing > > review of ongoing > > research at intervals appropriate to the degree of > > risk, but not less than > > once per year. It also has the authority to observe > > or have a third party > > observe the consent process and the research. > > > > IRBs are currently not required to register with FDA > > nor inform FDA when > > they begin reviewing studies. However, FDA performs > > on-site inspections of > > IRBs that review research involving products that > > FDA regulates, including > > IRBs in academic institutions and hospitals as well > > as those independent > > from where the research will be conducted. The > > primary focus of FDA's IRB > > Program is the protection of the rights and welfare > > of research subjects, > > rather than validating the data obtained from > > research. > > > > Marijuana > > > > FDA has not approved marijuana for medical use in > > the United States. Despite > > its status as an unapproved new drug, there has been > > considerable interest > > in its use for the treatment of a number of > > conditions, including glaucoma, > > AIDS wasting, neuropathic pain, treatment of > > spasticity associated with > > multiple sclerosis, and chemotherapy-induced nausea. > > Under the Controlled > > Substances Act (CSA) Congress listed marijuana in > > Schedule I. Schedule I > > substances have a very high potential for abuse, no > > accepted medical use in > > the United States, and lack accepted safety data for > > use under medical > > supervision. Schedule I substances can still be the > > subject of an IND; > > however, the conditions for its use are more > > restrictive. > > > > Pursuant to the FD & C Act, FDA is responsible for the > > approval and marketing > > of drugs for medical use, including controlled > > substances. DEA is the lead > > Federal agency responsible for regulating controlled > > substances and > > enforcing the CSA. The CSA separates controlled > > substances into five > > schedules, depending upon their approved medical use > > and abuse potential. > > Unlike Schedule I controlled substances, Schedule II > > substances are approved > > for medical use, although they also have a very high > > potential for abuse. > > Schedules III, IV, and V include those controlled > > substances that have been > > approved for medical use, but whose potential for > > abuse is diminished. > > > > FDA's Office of Criminal Investigations (OCI) is > > responsible for managing > > and conducting the Agency's criminal investigations. > > As a part of its > > duties, OCI has worked closely with DEA on a number > > of criminal > > investigations involving the illegal sale, use, and > > diversion of controlled > > substances including controlled substances sold over > > the Internet. OCI's > > close working relationship with DEA and local law > > enforcement agencies has > > led to many successful criminal cases involving > > controlled substances. FDA > > cooperates with DEA and other state and Federal > > agencies. OCI is often > > requested by these entities to provide assistance. > > Both OCI and DEA have > > worked together in the past to utilize the full > > range of regulatory and > > administrative tools available to them to pursue > > cases involving controlled > > substances. However, the primary responsibility for > > enforcing the CSA > > resides with DEA, and, FDA generally defers to DEA > > on criminal enforcement > > efforts related to Schedule I controlled substances. > > The criminal penalties > > related to Schedule I controlled substances are far > > greater under the CSA > > than those available under the FD & C Act for the > > distribution of an > > unapproved new drug. > > > > The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) > > and FDA support the > > medical research community who intend to study > > marijuana in scientifically > > valid investigations and well-controlled clinical > > trials, in-line with the > > FDA's drug approval process. HHS and FDA recognize > > the need for objective > > evaluations of the potential merits of cannabinoids > > for medical uses. If the > > scientific community discovers a positive benefit, > > HHS also recognizes the > > need to stimulate development of alternative, safer > > dosage forms. In > > February 1997, an NIH-sponsored workshop analyzed > > available scientific > > information and concluded that " in order to evaluate > > various hypotheses > > concerning the potential utility of marijuana in > > various therapeutic areas, > > more and better studies would be needed. " > > > > In March 1999, the Institute of Medicine (IOM) > > issued a detailed report that > > supports the absolute need for evidence-based > > research into the effects of > > marijuana and cannabinoid components of marijuana, > > for patients with > > specific disease conditions. The IOM report also > > emphasized that smoked > > marijuana is a crude drug delivery system that > > exposes patients to a > > significant number of harmful substances and that > > " if there is any future of > > marijuana as a medicine, it lies in its isolated > > components, the > > cannabinoids and their synthetic derivatives. " As > > such, the IOM recommended > > that clinical trials should be conducted with the > > goal of developing safe > > delivery systems. > > > > In May 1999, HHS released " Guidance on Procedures > > for the Provision of > > Marijuana for Medical Research, " a document intended > > to provide the medical > > research community who intend to study marijuana in > > scientifically valid > > investigations and well-controlled clinical trials > > on HHS procedures for > > providing research-grade marijuana to sponsors. The > > HHS guidance is intended > > to facilitate the research needed to evaluate > > pending public health > > questions regarding marijuana by making > > research-grade marijuana available > > for well-designed studies on a cost-reimbursable > > basis. The focus of this > > HHS program is the support of quality research for > > the development of > > clinically meaningful data regarding marijuana. An > > appropriate scientific > > study of a drug requires, among other things, that > > the drug used in the > > research must have a consistent and predictable > > potency, must be free of > > contamination, and must be available in sufficient > > amounts to support the > > needs of the study. NIDA allocates resources to > > cultivate a grade of > > marijuana that is suitable for research purposes. > > The HHS Guidance outlines > > the procedures for obtaining research-grade > > marijuana including: 1) the > > researcher must make an inquiry to NIDA to determine > > the availability and > > costs of marijuana, and NIDA has to determine that > > marijuana is available to > > support the study; 2) researchers who propose to > > conduct investigations in > > humans must proceed through the FDA process for > > filing an IND application: > > and 3) all researchers must obtain from DEA > > registration to conduct research > > using a Schedule I controlled substance. > > > > FDA regulates smoked marijuana, a botanical product, > > when it is being > > investigated for use in the diagnosis, cure, > > mitigation, treatment or > > prevention of disease in man or other animals, as a > > drug, under the FD & C > > Act. Botanicals include herbal products made from > > leaves, as well as > > products made from roots, stems, seeds, pollen or > > any other part of a plant. > > Botanical products pose some issues that are unique > > to this class of > > product, including the problem of lot-to-lot > > consistency. These unpurified > > products, which may be either from a single plant > > source or from a > > combination of different plant substances, often > > exert their reported > > effects through mechanisms that are either unknown > > or undefined. For these > > reasons, the exact chemical nature of these products > > may not be known. In > > addition, issues of strength, potency, shelf life, > > dosing and toxicity > > monitoring need to be addressed. If a product varies > > greatly, as can occur > > with botanicals, it is critical to obtain lot-to-lot > > product consistency. > > Without this it is difficult to determine if the > > product is causing the > > change in a patient's condition, or the change is > > related to some other > > factor. Because of the problems associated with > > obtaining lot-to-lot > > consistency with botanical marijuana, it is not > > surprising that IOM > > recommended that clinical trials should be conducted > > with the goal of > > developing safe delivery systems. > > > > HHS performed a scientific and medical evaluation of > > marijuana in 2001 and > > concluded with a recommendation to DEA that > > marijuana should remain in > > Schedule I pursuant to section 201( of the CSA. > > HHS's scientific and > > medical evaluation and scheduling recommendation can > > be found at Volume 66, > > Federal Register page 20038 (April 18, 2001). After > > receiving an HHS > > evaluation and recommendation, DEA is responsible > > for scheduling substances > > and as noted previously, has primary responsibility > > for the regulation and > > distribution of Schedule I substances. > > > > FDA Approval of Safer Dosage Forms of Cannabinoids > > FDA has approved two drugs, Marinol and Cesamet, for > > therapeutic uses in the > > U.S., which contain active ingredients that are > > present in botanical > > marijuana. On May 31, 1985, FDA approved Marinol > > Capsules, manufactured by > > Unimed, for nausea and vomiting associated with > > cancer chemotherapy > > inpatients that had failed to respond adequately to > > conventional antiemetic > > treatments. Marinol Capsules include the active > > ingredient dronabinol, a > > synthetic delta-9- tetrahydrocannabinol or THC, > > which is considered the > > psychoactive component of marijuana. On December 22, > > 1992, FDA approved > > Marinol Capsules for the treatment of anorexia > > associated with weight loss > > in patients with AIDS. Although FDA approved Cesamet > > Capsules for the > > treatment of nausea and vomiting associated with > > chemotherapy on December > > 26, 1985, this product was never marketed in the > > U.S. Cesamet Capsules > > contain nabilone as the active ingredient, a > > synthetic cannabinoid. Nabilone > > is not naturally occurring and not derived from > > marijuana, as is THC. > > > > These products have been through FDA's rigorous > > approval process and have > > been determined to be safe and effective for their > > respective indications. > > It is only through the FDA drug approval process > > that solid clinical data > > can be obtained and a scientifically based > > assessment of the risks and > > benefits of an investigational drug is made. Upon > > FDA approval for > > marketing, consumers who need the medication can > > have confidence that the > > approved medication will be safe and effective. > > > > CONCLUSION > > > > Having access to a drug or medical treatment, > > without knowing how to use it > > or even if it is effective, does not benefit anyone. > > Simply having access, > > without having safety, efficacy, and adequate use > > information does not help > > patients. FDA has and will continue to use its IND > > and other expanded access > > programs to provide patients freedom to choose > > investigational medical > > treatments while reasonably ensuring safety, > > informed choice, and systematic > > data collection that allows us to review drug > > applications. > > > > FDA will continue to be receptive to sound, > > scientifically based research > > into the medicinal uses of botanical marijuana and > > other cannabinoids. FDA > > will continue to facilitate the work of > > manufacturers interested in bringing > > to the market safe and effective products. > > > > I would like to thank the Subcommittee again for the > > opportunity to testify > > today on this important issue. I would be happy, at > > this time, to answer any > > questions Members of the Subcommittee may have. > > > > > > > > Other Recent Testimony > > FDA Home Page | Search FDA Site | FDA A-Z Index | > > Contact FDA | Privacy | > > Accessibility > > > > FDA Office of Legislation > > Web page created by mn > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Jenna, The story behind all this would make you sick! . . . Garbage handlers testified about disposing of hundreds of dead test animals. . . . It appears that DOW didn't admit to some of the studies . . . Now, an organization must announce a study before starting and report the study results . . .. As if we could believe what they said to begin with! Hugs, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Um you just lit a fire under my behind! I know this sounds stupid, but I can watch a movie when they murder a human but when a dog is involved I cry and make my husband turn it off....oh boy..I am curious but I just don't want to know anymore!! How HORRIBLE! I have to go give my dog some kisses... Jenna > > Jenna, > > The story behind all this would make you sick! . . . > > Garbage handlers testified about disposing of hundreds > of dead test animals. . . . > > It appears that DOW didn't admit to some of the > studies . . . Now, an organization must announce a > study before starting and report the study results . . > . > > As if we could believe what they said to begin with! > > Hugs, > > Rogene > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 My husband often says he thinks I cuddle our little poodle more than him! (He is joking, I think!) I love dogs, and can't stand to see them harmed. > > > > Jenna, > > > > The story behind all this would make you sick! . . . > > > > Garbage handlers testified about disposing of hundreds > > of dead test animals. . . . > > > > It appears that DOW didn't admit to some of the > > studies . . . Now, an organization must announce a > > study before starting and report the study results . . > > . > > > > As if we could believe what they said to begin with! > > > > Hugs, > > > > Rogene > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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