Re: cell pictures anywhere? leaky and empty

[Guest guest]

Thanks Limin.

Great parasite snaps. But, I'm looking for the odd shape of cells = spikes /

leaky and doghnut = empty cells. Does anyone know of what I'm trying to explain?

~zeph

[Guest guest]

Unfortunately, I remember reading that several different conditions can

cause spiking, from serious to normal. But, the doghnut empty cells are

a sign of something. I can't remember right now, sorry, but it is an

indication of a problem. Try googling " empty red blood cell " or

" doghnut red blood cells " to see if you can find it. Also, look at

clumping and look at how many red blood cells are misshapen. Most have

some misshapen red blood cells since they only live for a short while,

and then die; thus, it's the amount of misshapen red blood cells that

denotes a problem.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

Thanks Limin.

Great parasite snaps. But, I'm looking for the odd shape of cells =

spikes / leaky and doghnut = empty cells. Does anyone know of what I'm

trying to explain?

~zeph

[Guest guest]

The doghnut shape is a normal shape of a red blood cell. They can be spikey

and/or leaky from the preparation of the slide or it can mean something else is

going on with the cell.

Jen

>

> Thanks Limin.

> Great parasite snaps. But, I'm looking for the odd shape of cells = spikes /

leaky and doghnut = empty cells. Does anyone know of what I'm trying to explain?

> ~zeph

>

[Guest guest]

His slide looks like this:

http://labmed.hallym.ac.kr/hematol/Disease-findings.htm

scroll down to

" Echinocytes are red blood cells with many blunt spicules, resulting from faulty

drying of the blood smear or from exposure to hyperosmotic solutions.

Pathological forms are associated with uremia. Echinocytes contain adequate

hemoglobin and the spiny knobs are regularly dispersed over the cell surface,

unlike those of acanthocytes "

What makes me suspicious is that they are numerous but not ALL the cells.

Has anyone got tis result from Fry or asked them about this?

I understand it may just be the slide but, my other son does not have this.

It could also be any of these:

-acid lab solution

-high calcium (although he's not taking calcium)

-nitrogenous waste in blood

-uremia kidney failure

-reduced albumin (tested within limits at stanford)

-body's inability to remove acid waste

Any suggestions appreciated,

~zeph

BTW: no pathogens were observed - no lyme or other floaters - NONE!

" This contradicts his Igenex test results. Hum . . . " (said Dr. M)

>

> Unfortunately, I remember reading that several different conditions can

> cause spiking, from serious to normal. But, the doghnut empty cells are

> a sign of something. I can't remember right now, sorry, but it is an

> indication of a problem. Try googling " empty red blood cell " or

> " doghnut red blood cells " to see if you can find it. Also, look at

> clumping and look at how many red blood cells are misshapen. Most have

> some misshapen red blood cells since they only live for a short while,

> and then die; thus, it's the amount of misshapen red blood cells that

> denotes a problem.

>

> Love and prayers,

>

> Heidi N