Re: Friend with implants

[Guest guest]

We all buy into the implants or we never would have got them. We

have all heard from the pro-implant sites that sites like this one

are just " anti implant " So it is no wonder your friend is in flat

out denial. She may have guilt but look how hard it is for some of

use..me included, to believe that our implants caused illness.I hope

things have smoothed over between you and that she will be open to

your experiance so that at least she is aware of the symptoms.

HUGS,

--- In , " auntsisnj " <auntsisnj@l...>

wrote:

>

> Hi All,

>

> Some of you might remember that I was friends with someone who had

> implants for 20 years, and her daughter got them a little over a

year

> ago. This woman was very encouraging when I was thinking about

> getting implants, in fact when she told me she and her daughter

both

> had them and had no problems, I wanted to look into it as well.

Then

> after I had my surgery and started having problems she bailed. I

had

> actually told her about this support group and she said " oh, man,

you

> really buy into this crap pretty easily, don't you " ? I e-mailed

her

> and told her I was having them explanted, and I told her why, and

she

> eventually responded saying I knew my body and to do whatever I

> thought was best. She called today and asked how the surgery

went,

> and we talked a while. She mentioned that her daughter developed

an

> allergy to orange dye after she got her implants. Not exactly

sure

> how she came to that conclusion, maybe foods or drinks, or

clothing

> that are orange. Anyway, I do think she bailed because she felt

bad

> about promoting implants, and probably worried about her own

daughter,

> and maybe just didn't want to face it. I hope her daughter

doesn't

> develop any other problems - but if she does I will certainly help

her.

>

> Sis

>

[Guest guest]

Hi - I think I will be friendly with her, but I believe

she's an acquaintance rather than a friend. You know the people you

can count on and the people you can't, and thankfully I've got such

an incredible friend who stood by me through this whole ordeal. In

fact, she called me every morning while I was in Ohio, greeting me

with " good morning Sunshine! " She had breast cancer 5 years ago,

and she had a lumpectomy and didn't get implants. Both of us have

been sick because of boobs, so I think it brought us even closer.

When I first got the implants, the pro-implant site that I visited

called sites like ours " scare sites " . I think what's scarey are the

sights that don't tell you the truth about implants.

Sis

> >

> > Hi All,

> >

> > Some of you might remember that I was friends with someone who

had

> > implants for 20 years, and her daughter got them a little over a

> year

> > ago. This woman was very encouraging when I was thinking about

> > getting implants, in fact when she told me she and her daughter

> both

> > had them and had no problems, I wanted to look into it as well.

> Then

> > after I had my surgery and started having problems she bailed.

I

> had

> > actually told her about this support group and she said " oh,

man,

> you

> > really buy into this crap pretty easily, don't you " ? I e-mailed

> her

> > and told her I was having them explanted, and I told her why,

and

> she

> > eventually responded saying I knew my body and to do whatever I

> > thought was best. She called today and asked how the surgery

> went,

> > and we talked a while. She mentioned that her daughter

developed

> an

> > allergy to orange dye after she got her implants. Not exactly

> sure

> > how she came to that conclusion, maybe foods or drinks, or

> clothing

> > that are orange. Anyway, I do think she bailed because she felt

> bad

> > about promoting implants, and probably worried about her own

> daughter,

> > and maybe just didn't want to face it. I hope her daughter

> doesn't

> > develop any other problems - but if she does I will certainly

help

> her.

> >

> > Sis

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I agree, Sis...

I think that pro-implant site is a travesty. It's a sure moneymaker for plastic

surgeons,

though, and for the women who administrate the forum.

I found it disgusting. THey came right out and told me theirs is a

'pro-implant' site and

they are paid by the surgeons to promote implants.

It makes me sick.

> > >

> > > Hi All,

> > >

> > > Some of you might remember that I was friends with someone who

> had

> > > implants for 20 years, and her daughter got them a little over a

> > year

> > > ago. This woman was very encouraging when I was thinking about

> > > getting implants, in fact when she told me she and her daughter

> > both

> > > had them and had no problems, I wanted to look into it as well.

> > Then

> > > after I had my surgery and started having problems she bailed.

> I

> > had

> > > actually told her about this support group and she said " oh,

> man,

> > you

> > > really buy into this crap pretty easily, don't you " ? I e-mailed

> > her

> > > and told her I was having them explanted, and I told her why,

> and

> > she

> > > eventually responded saying I knew my body and to do whatever I

> > > thought was best. She called today and asked how the surgery

> > went,

> > > and we talked a while. She mentioned that her daughter

> developed

> > an

> > > allergy to orange dye after she got her implants. Not exactly

> > sure

> > > how she came to that conclusion, maybe foods or drinks, or

> > clothing

> > > that are orange. Anyway, I do think she bailed because she felt

> > bad

> > > about promoting implants, and probably worried about her own

> > daughter,

> > > and maybe just didn't want to face it. I hope her daughter

> > doesn't

> > > develop any other problems - but if she does I will certainly

> help

> > her.

> > >

> > > Sis

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sis,

Denial is powerful. I threw away the articles my mother sent in the 90s about

registering

for the class action settlement. I was fine, and those women were nuts.

Well that was before I got sick. When I finally had my 20 year old implants

out, they were

ruptured and I was one sick woman.

You have planted a seed. Maybe someday she will come back to you for help.

>

> Hi All,

>

> Some of you might remember that I was friends with someone who had

> implants for 20 years, and her daughter got them a little over a year

> ago. This woman was very encouraging when I was thinking about

> getting implants, in fact when she told me she and her daughter both

> had them and had no problems, I wanted to look into it as well. Then

> after I had my surgery and started having problems she bailed. I had

> actually told her about this support group and she said " oh, man, you

> really buy into this crap pretty easily, don't you " ? I e-mailed her

> and told her I was having them explanted, and I told her why, and she

> eventually responded saying I knew my body and to do whatever I

> thought was best. She called today and asked how the surgery went,

> and we talked a while. She mentioned that her daughter developed an

> allergy to orange dye after she got her implants. Not exactly sure

> how she came to that conclusion, maybe foods or drinks, or clothing

> that are orange. Anyway, I do think she bailed because she felt bad

> about promoting implants, and probably worried about her own daughter,

> and maybe just didn't want to face it. I hope her daughter doesn't

> develop any other problems - but if she does I will certainly help her.

>

> Sis

>

[Guest guest]

There was a woman on the pro-implant sites who posted all the time -

she already had lupus and MS when she decided to get the implants,

and she had a bad heart and was in a wheelchair, too. She only got

the implants about a year ago, but had been sick with the other

ailments for years. She very strongly believed silicone was " inert "

(I think she had silicone implants). I remember wondering what

doctor in good faith could perform that type of surgery on someone

with so many health problems.

Sis

> > > >

> > > > Hi All,

> > > >

> > > > Some of you might remember that I was friends with someone

who

> > had

> > > > implants for 20 years, and her daughter got them a little

over a

> > > year

> > > > ago. This woman was very encouraging when I was thinking

about

> > > > getting implants, in fact when she told me she and her

daughter

> > > both

> > > > had them and had no problems, I wanted to look into it as

well.

> > > Then

> > > > after I had my surgery and started having problems she

bailed.

> > I

> > > had

> > > > actually told her about this support group and she said " oh,

> > man,

> > > you

> > > > really buy into this crap pretty easily, don't you " ? I e-

mailed

> > > her

> > > > and told her I was having them explanted, and I told her

why,

> > and

> > > she

> > > > eventually responded saying I knew my body and to do

whatever I

> > > > thought was best. She called today and asked how the

surgery

> > > went,

> > > > and we talked a while. She mentioned that her daughter

> > developed

> > > an

> > > > allergy to orange dye after she got her implants. Not

exactly

> > > sure

> > > > how she came to that conclusion, maybe foods or drinks, or

> > > clothing

> > > > that are orange. Anyway, I do think she bailed because she

felt

> > > bad

> > > > about promoting implants, and probably worried about her own

> > > daughter,

> > > > and maybe just didn't want to face it. I hope her daughter

> > > doesn't

> > > > develop any other problems - but if she does I will

certainly

> > help

> > > her.

> > > >

> > > > Sis

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I don't think many plastic surgeons put in silicone implants in good faith. And

those that

do are idiots.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi All,

> > > > >

> > > > > Some of you might remember that I was friends with someone

> who

> > > had

> > > > > implants for 20 years, and her daughter got them a little

> over a

> > > > year

> > > > > ago. This woman was very encouraging when I was thinking

> about

> > > > > getting implants, in fact when she told me she and her

> daughter

> > > > both

> > > > > had them and had no problems, I wanted to look into it as

> well.

> > > > Then

> > > > > after I had my surgery and started having problems she

> bailed.

> > > I

> > > > had

> > > > > actually told her about this support group and she said " oh,

> > > man,

> > > > you

> > > > > really buy into this crap pretty easily, don't you " ? I e-

> mailed

> > > > her

> > > > > and told her I was having them explanted, and I told her

> why,

> > > and

> > > > she

> > > > > eventually responded saying I knew my body and to do

> whatever I

> > > > > thought was best. She called today and asked how the

> surgery

> > > > went,

> > > > > and we talked a while. She mentioned that her daughter

> > > developed

> > > > an

> > > > > allergy to orange dye after she got her implants. Not

> exactly

> > > > sure

> > > > > how she came to that conclusion, maybe foods or drinks, or

> > > > clothing

> > > > > that are orange. Anyway, I do think she bailed because she

> felt

> > > > bad

> > > > > about promoting implants, and probably worried about her own

> > > > daughter,

> > > > > and maybe just didn't want to face it. I hope her daughter

> > > > doesn't

> > > > > develop any other problems - but if she does I will

> certainly

> > > help

> > > > her.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sis

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sis ~

I am sorry to hear of your experience with the insecure job bully. Obviously he is insecure in himself, and in his own ability, and uses lies, intimidation and harassment, by using crude demeaning statements, to try to rise above. No one should have to work with this person. And he should be put on probation or fired !

Bless your heart, I am glad you have someone else to work with now. That will make such a difference in your work day. There is nothing more annoying than to have to deal with a bully, especially an adult one.

I am glad that you are finally seeing improvement in your health. It is great that your TSH is getting back to normal, and you feel so much better ! Gives me hope. Do you feel your energy level improving since getting used to working again?

Ya know, on the breast implant, and symptom recognition deal, women are taught at a very young age to ignore pain, and live life as if it does not exist.

Periods ! PMS, cramps, stomach aches, diarrhea, headaches, etc........we are programmed to dismiss the symptoms and pretend we dont feel bad, and that we dont really have these symptoms, I think this is why, in women, they dont recognise illness many times til it is too late.

I think women have symptoms of BI illness that creep up on them, and they dont make the connection mainly because they attribute it to aging, hormones, just being tired, what ever excuse besides the implants.

They may not even recognise they are having a problem til it is out of control and full blown. I believe opening the door is wonderful of you to do for your friend. When she is ready, she will step in.

I hope you have a nice and relaxing weekend !

Blessings ~ DedeGet a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com.

[Guest guest]

Dede,

I'm doing well. I got very upset during the week on my business

trip because I was working with a peer (who obviously thought he was

my superior, and obviously had no respect for women). He told me

that it was my job to push heavy pieces of equipment around and he

didn't know why my boss hired me if I couldn't. I said I had back

and neck problems, and he said " where did our boss find you, in

rehab? " . I said I was never told physical labor would be involved,

and I called my boss. My boss said we have people to push that

equipment around, and told me not to do it. Anyway, now I'm working

with someone else in the group who is much nicer and who doesn't

think he has to wear every hat in the company in order to get

something done. I'm giving this a chance and not basing one bad

experience on the entire job.

My friend does have e-mail, although I think I'll probably open the

door to conversation when we see eachother again. We haven't had

time alone to really talk, either my husband or her family has been

around, but when we do I'll tell her that I was very sick two years

ago and I'll tell her what triggered it. Since she's had them at

least 10 years, she probably would be experiencing some kind of

symptoms at this point if her body wasn't tolerating them - so

perhaps that would set the groundwork. If she says nothing about

her implants, I won't ask, but if she does I'll send her the

pictures you sent. She looks healthy but then again, many of us do,

even when we're sick. I think I looked terrible when I had them -

my skin tone changed to this grayish color, and I lost so much

weight at first. Then after explant I regained the 10 I lost, plus

another 10. Got on the scale this morning and I've actually lost 10

lbs in the past few months - through hard work and diet - but

thankfully I stuck with it because it came off slower than it ever

has in my life. Now I'm back to the weight I was when I had the

original implant surgery. So, two years later I've come full

circle, and since my TSH is back to normal I'm sure that also had

something to do with my ability to lose weight.

Sis

>

> Sis ~

> Hello ! How are you doing? Sounds like you have been busy !

I hope the

> job developes into what you were looking for, if not, it is a

learning curve.

>

> I tell ya, does she have email? You could send her a note about

what

> happened to you, and send her copies of nasty implants so she can

see just how

> awful they can be, and she cannot deny problems seeing those

pics. I posted a

> group of them I gathered to the group the other day along with

pics of

> capsules, all nasty. Maybe you could send it with a note about

your experience.

> Then the door will be open, and she can step in if she chooses.

What a dilema

> you are in, but workable.

> How kind of you to try to pay it forward for her !

> Blessings ~ Dede

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I agree, Dede,

The man is very short - and while I could care less about that, I

have the feeling that he does - thus explaining the " Napolean

Complex " . I helped this man quite a bit during my visit there, and

when I asked if he was ready for the next piece of information I was

ready to provide, he said to the other man " traveling with her is

like traveling with my friggin' wife " . One of the other men there

said outloud - " if I were her, I'd report you to HR for saying that " .

I definitely notice that my energy level is much better when I'm

employed. I've been downsized twice in two years, and after the

first downsizing is when I got implants. I was terrified that I

wouldn't be able to work, but when I found another job I discovered

that it made me feel normal and I did find the energy for it.

Yes, we definitely become accustomed to pain and we tend to suck it

up and go about our days with terrible cramps, hormone fluctuations,

etc., so I think this does make us march on even when we don't feel

well.

Sis

>

> Sis ~

> I am sorry to hear of your experience with the insecure job

bully.

> Obviously he is insecure in himself, and in his own ability, and

uses lies,

> intimidation and harassment, by using crude demeaning

statements, to try to rise

> above. No one should have to work with this person. And he

should be put

> on probation or fired !

> Bless your heart, I am glad you have someone else to work with

now. That

> will make such a difference in your work day. There is nothing

more annoying

> than to have to deal with a bully, especially an adult one.

> I am glad that you are finally seeing improvement in your

health. It is

> great that your TSH is getting back to normal, and you feel so

much better !

> Gives me hope. Do you feel your energy level improving since

getting used to

> working again?

> Ya know, on the breast implant, and symptom recognition deal,

women are

> taught at a very young age to ignore pain, and live life as if it

does not

> exist.

> Periods ! PMS, cramps, stomach aches, diarrhea, headaches,

etc........we

> are programmed to dismiss the symptoms and pretend we dont feel

bad, and that

> we dont really have these symptoms, I think this is why, in women,

they dont

> recognise illness many times til it is too late.

> I think women have symptoms of BI illness that creep up on them,

and they

> dont make the connection mainly because they attribute it to

aging, hormones,

> just being tired, what ever excuse besides the implants.

> They may not even recognise they are having a problem til it is

out of

> control and full blown. I believe opening the door is wonderful

of you to do for

> your friend. When she is ready, she will step in.

> I hope you have a nice and relaxing weekend !

> Blessings ~ Dede

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Dearest Sis:

I am glad that you are doing better, you have been through so much pain and suffering. When you are unhappy with your job, it can destroy you. I hope things change and that you do not allow anyone to push you around.

My friend might not be able to have these calf implants removed, she is a diabetic and she is very frail. All I can do is give her love and support. They are very rich, this will make it easier for her to get help. Dr. Blais told me that she must have gone somewhere else to have them implanted. They are not allowed in Canada, and he has never heard of anyone having these implants!

Wonders me...love you always.....Lea

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Friend with implants> > > Hello friends,> > I'm experiencing some growing pains with the new job and am not sure > if this is "the one", but I'm giving it time. I had to travel > within the state I live in this week so I haven't kept up with the > posts on our site.> > Last weekend we had some friends over for a BBQ. One of my friends > moved out of state more than 10 years ago and I haven't seen her > much since, but she's now living in the area again. I remember > noticing about 10 years ago that it looked like she may have gotten > implants, but had since forgot all about it. After seeing her last > weekend in her swim suit I realized she did have implants, because > she was once the same size as me on top and now she looks like I > looked with implants. She's a very private person so she never > confided in me regarding this surgery, and since she's been gone > from the area for so long I have no idea if she's got any health > problems that could be due to the implants. I'm hoping she hasn't > gotten sick and never does. I do plan on telling her what happened > to me, without mentioning anything about her having implants, and in > the event she ever has problems at least she'll know where to find > help.> > Sis>

[Guest guest]

Sis ~

How funny, the one man put the other man in his place. Good for him ! !

It is funny sometimes how things work. And you didnt even have to say a word !

Hope you are having a nice relaxing weekend !

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