Re: Propranolol for palps?

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Propanolol is also used for hyperthyroid, so it will decrease thyroid

function as well.

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> Propanolol is also used for hyperthyroid, so it will decrease thyroid

> function as well.

Hi Val

Do you think this would be OK as a temporary measure just to get some

sleep for a few days, just taking one at bedtime?

Mo

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Hi! Mo-

I got this in the middle of the night from slipping up somehow on my H/C dosing yesterday. I took another dose of H/C and it the " boom boom boom " calmed right down and I went off to sleep.

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I wonder if anyone has used the above for palps. I am increasing myArmour and because I am already on a fairly high dose of adrenal

support I cannot stress dose.I am getting palps today and remembered I had some propranonol in thekitchen drawer.What do you guys think about taking one 40 mg to aid sleep as the palpskeep me awake regarding of what I take to help me sleep.

Thanks.Mo

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> Hi! Mo-

>

> I got this in the middle of the night from slipping up somehow on my

H/C

> dosing yesterday. I took another dose of H/C and it the " boom boom

> boom " calmed right down and I went off to sleep.

>

> ...

Hi christina

My trouble is that i am reducing from 10 mg Pred and have got down to 5

mg Pred plus 5mg h/c first thing with another 5 ml h/c four hours later.

I don't know if I can stress dose in this situation.

Does anyone know?

Thanks.

Mo

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> Yes but it might be counter-productive. If your palpsd re from low

> thyroid, which they can be, it will only make them worse.

Hi again

I don't know how to tell if they are from low thyroid. My latest raise

is half grain to three grains.

When I increase, every time, I get palps so I always put it down to

strain on the adrenals. I was able to stress dose before I did that

silly thing and doubled my Pred. but I am a bit stuck now for relief. I

have been like a cat on a hot tin roof all day and a night's sleep

would be a blessing.

Is there ANYTHING that helps with palps or is it simply the case of

biting the bullet?

Thanks.

Mo

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> Rather than stress dose, maybe lower the Armour a bit.

Oh OK, for how long Val?

Thanks

Mo

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> I would lower it to your last dose for a couple days then try half

that

> increase. To avoid having to stress dose, you will have to do Armour

in

> TINY increases, like 1/4 to 1/8 grains increments even. You may have

to

> even hold your thyroid at the lower dose till you have the Pred back

> under control.

Hi

OK, so I will cut back to 2 and 1/2 grains for two days and then up it

to 2 3/4 right?

Then, all going well I would plan to decrease the Pred in a week or so.

How does that sound to you Val;?

Mo

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> That sounds good, then wait at least 2 weeks on the lowered Pred

before

> trying an increase in thyroid again.

Hi again Val

I was thinking of reducing the Pred from 5 mg to 4mg? Do you think that

is a good plan?

So I could increase another quarter grain two weeks after the Pred.

reduction?

Mo

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Throughout all my adrenal stuff and HC/florinef dose changes I have

stayed rock steady on my armour dose -- It's been four grains for a

year now and I haven't raised or lowered it. I find it easier just to

adjust one variable at a time, that way you always know the cause of

the effect.

Just my two cents,

Jen

ps I have found that a bedtime 5mg HC stress dose can boot the cat

off the tin roof and put me right to sleep . . .

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> I would lower it to your last dose for a couple days then try half that

> increase. To avoid having to stress dose, you will have to do Armour in

> TINY increases, like 1/4 to 1/8 grains increments even. You may

have to

> even hold your thyroid at the lower dose till you have the Pred back

> under control.

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> >>OK, so I will cut back to 2 and 1/2 grains for two days and then

up it

> to 2 3/4 right?

> Then, all going well I would plan to decrease the Pred in a week or

so.

> How does that sound to you Val;?<<

>

> That sounds good, then wait at least 2 weeks on the lowered Pred

before

Hi Val

Still having a lot of trouble with quite intense anxiety and internal

shaking (and external also until I had some reflexology yesterday -

the left adrenal was tender and also the left pituitary.) I even

developed a kind of stammer, where I just cannot get my words out and

I am wondering if this is stress or a side-effect from anything I am

taking. Apart from the Armour, Pred. and h/c I am taking

amiltryptiline. Also noticed myself getting dizzy on getting off the

couch which is very unusual for me.

Maybe just plain bad luck that I have a number of serious external

stresses all hitting me at once. I felt like I might have a nervous

breakdown before I had the reflexology yesterday. Just complete

overhwelm.

Still on 2 and 3/4 grains Armour plus 5 mg h.c first thing, then 5 mg

Pred. with breakfast and another 5 h.c four hours after I rise.

I don't know what to do for the best.

I am worried I will make myself worse if I reduce the Pred. any

further. Maybe I should cut back on the Armour to one and half grains

again.

Whatchathunk?

Thanks.

Mo

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> I would try to hold it for a while. Stress dose with the HC if you

need

> to but I hate to see you lose so much ground with the Armour just

trying

> to cut this pred back. Another thing you might try is switching the

Pred

> to the AM doe and the balance of the day just taking HC when you need

it.

Hi Val

Good morning from a very stressed and shakey Mo. I have been advised to

do some singing to stop the stammer thing that has started up so I'll

give that a try, I like to sing when I am happy anyway.

I was worried that I was already taking such a high dose that stress

dosing would be out of the question.

So you think it would be OK? I have just taken the 5 mg h./c when I

woke a little while ago and now have just taken the 5 mg Pred. with my

breakfast so I will see how I go today. Still feeling anxious even

though I have these already.

Thanks for your help Val.

Mo

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Hi Mo

we are in the same situation this morning - also very shakey and

anxious. I have taken 5mg Pred and 15 mg HC to get back on track - not

sure what's causing my problems - a virus or Armour increase, or

probably both. Think it is OK to stress dose in times of illness,

which is why I have taken more today. I shall give the singing a go...

maybe my adrenals will like that too... !!

Nice to know someone's going through the same thing as me.

Nicola

> Hi Val

> Good morning from a very stressed and shakey Mo. I have been advised

to

> do some singing to stop the stammer thing that has started up so I'll

> give that a try, I like to sing when I am happy anyway.

> I was worried that I was already taking such a high dose that stress

> dosing would be out of the question.

> So you think it would be OK? I have just taken the 5 mg h./c when I

> woke a little while ago and now have just taken the 5 mg Pred. with

my

> breakfast so I will see how I go today. Still feeling anxious even

> though I have these already.

> Thanks for your help Val.

>

> Mo

>

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> Nice to know someone's going through the same thing as me.

>

> Nicola

Hi Nicola

Yes indeed, it is consoling to know I am not alone. I have taken

exactly the same amount of adrenal support as you today.

I was scared to stress dose because I am already on quite a high dose

anyway because it has been one stress after another, after another,

for months now and what started out with me taking double Pred (10mg)

for a few days turned into three months. So I have been cutting back

and now I have been hit again with this great wall of stress.........

C'mon Management Upstairs give us all a break here?

Here's to a better tomorrow for us all.

Mo