Re: moldy implant

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Very common.

Lynda

At 12:57 PM 12/9/2005, you wrote:

>I had my saline implants removed 6 months ago because of a rash on one

>breast that just would not go away. my left implant was full of

>mold. Is this commom?

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[Guest guest]

Welcome TJ,

Yes, rashes are a very frequent event with breast

implants. . . Rashes are one of the body's ways of

getting rid of toxins.

Are you OK now?

Hugs,

Rogene

--- tjbales2003 <tjbales2003@...> wrote:

> I had my saline implants removed 6 months ago

> because of a rash on one

> breast that just would not go away. my left implant

> was full of

> mold. Is this commom?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Just curious how long did you have your implants?

>From: " tjbales2003 " <tjbales2003@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: moldy implant

>Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 19:57:10 -0000

>

>I had my saline implants removed 6 months ago because of a rash on one

>breast that just would not go away. my left implant was full of

>mold. Is this commom?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

rogene,

i've never had any rashes but I've managed to get very ill anyway. I

just know some of this has got to be mold or yeast.along with all the

soreness, I have an itchy feeling on the inside of my chest as well.

my nipples and skin on my breasts even feel sore. kinda reminds me

when i was breastfeeding and the baby went too long without

eating.I'm also assuming that mold and yeast aren't the same thing. I

could see yeast causing thse symptoms. Lord, i've had enough vaginal

yeast infections to know but mold, i just don't know about.

>

> > I had my saline implants removed 6 months ago

> > because of a rash on one

> > breast that just would not go away. my left implant

> > was full of

> > mold. Is this commom?

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

rogene,

thanks for all of that. exercise right now is definitely not

possible.i can hardly move let alone do much else. i've tried before

when i was struggling with endometriosis to avoid everything in my

diet and environment since they now say that endo is also an

autoimmune response most likely to dioxin in the environment.well i

got to where i was eating absolutely nothing because i was afraid to.

and i hurt bad enough that i didn't want it to continue so i was

willing to taking starving over that.well, dioxin is in just about

everything-paper towels, toilet paper, plastic wrap,etc. it was next

to impossible to try to find brown unbleached toilet paper and even

if i had, i probably wouldn't have been able to afford it. unbleached

sanitary pads and stuff could be bought online.i know there are some

companies i could've looked up online but i was too sick to be doing

much of that. thing is, they say that endo isn't curable and even if

you have a hysterectomy, there can still be microscopic amounts left

behind that are hard for most, except for the most-skilled, surgeons

to get. Dr. Nezhat(the gynecological version of dr. kolb) in atlanta

is one of the few in the nation who can do that but I couldn't afford

to see him.So maybe, just maybe, with all this other stuff knocking

my immune system about, some of that has made its way back to

activity. i know my tailbone hurt like this when i had endo before

but not this bad and it wasn't swollen then.taking hormone pills

makes it more likely that any hidden endo could be reactivated but

honestly i don't think i've had any symptoms of it since the

hysterectomy 4 years ago.anyway, i just think it's nearly impossible

to avoid everything in the environment but i sure do try to do

whatever i can. i drink filtered water from my husband's parents

because they have a filter system in their house. the stuff at the

store is sold in plastic bottles and that's not good. heck, so is

ketchup and everything else now. i take plastic wrap off foods i buy

as soon as i get them home or avoid buying wrapped foods in the first

place whenever possible,i avoid styrofoam,i don't microwave anything

in plastic containers at all, not even the hard plastic ones,etc.then

i read about toxic stuff even in shampoos, makeup,lotions, and even

sunblock. geeezzz. you just can't win.and wearing bras definitely

aren't good for breasts and thank goodness i never needed to do a lot

of that anyway except for the 10 yrs i've had implants.

>

> Cosima,

>

> We tend to use the terms fungus, mold, yeast and

> Candida interchangably. This isn't right I know. .

> But, short of having lab tests done to determine

> exactly what you're dealing with, it's all in the same

> category.

>

> All these organisms are encouraged by antibiotics

> because the beneficial organisms everyone has in their

> body is killed off by these drugs. The beneficial

> organisms keep the negative ones in check.

> Unfortuately, the negative ones rebound faster than

> the beneficial ones and you end up with a problem.

>

> When your immune systems is damaged by a long term

> battle with something like breast implants, the

> antifungal meds kill off the negative organisms. . .

> Then you need the probiotics to put positive organisms

> back in your body. This will take a while! Primal

> Defense is outstanding. However a good brand of

> Acidopholis (from the refrigerator section of a health

> food store), yogurt, buttermilk, naturally fermented

> foods like sauerkraut and Keflir also have beneficial

> organisms.

>

> There's no quick or easy solutions. Eating as

> naturally as possible helps tremendously. Eliminate

> every chemical from your diet and your environment

> possible. . .

>

> Sweating helps get rid of toxins . . . hot baths, even

> without Epsom salts can help. Exercise helps. Drinking

> pure water is a must.

>

> If you'll keep a journal of what you are doing and how

> you feel, you'll begin to see a connection. Getting

> better is two steps forward and one step back. You're

> going to get to know your body like never before. In

> the long run, you'll be healthier than you've ever

> been. But for now, please be patient with yourself!

> You're going to get there. I can see your

> determination coming through!

>

> Also you will need to learn to recognise a Herx effect

> for what it is . . . You will feel worse temporarily

> because what you are doing found it's mark. . . When

> you finish a herx, you should feel better than you

> have in some time. Learning to control the herxes so

> you don't get so sick you can't function is key.

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

Rogene, your message to Cosima reminded me of my original plastic

surgeon, because they asked me all my health issues, and I told them

that I had endometriosis, and that I had a weakened immune system

from birth - and I asked if that would be a problem and he shook his

head " no " . A few months later, when I was in is office crying

because my joints were sore and my lymph nodes were swollen, he did

feel bad for me but obviously didn't acknowledge the connection.

When I came out of the examination room, he was waiting at the desk

for me with a form to sign for consent to show prospective patients

the results of my surgery!!

Sis

>

> Cosima,

>

> You really have had a rough time of it. It's a shame

> the plastic surgeon didn't ask you about what health

> problems you had prior to implanting you. There should

> have been red flags all over the place.

>

> Once you get your implants out, you should take a lot

> of the burden off your body. It sounds like you're

> doing everything you can think of . . .

>

> Just a couple suggestions. Kathy has been using a

> product line " Miracle II " . They have a multipurpose

> product that can be used for washing your hair, skin

> and teeth. . . She's raved about it. I keep intending

> to get some myself!!! appleadayandbeyond.com carries

> it.

>

> Also . . . microwaving food kills the live part of

> food. You may find you get more nutrition from your

> foods by cooking them on the stove top or oven. Patty

> can tell you a lot more about that! . . . As one

> naturopath put it . . . use your microwave for a

> breadbox!

>

> And, a simple suggestion . . . use sea salt instead of

> table salt. Table salt is what's left after all the

> natural minerals are removed and junk added

> (silica-alumina?) to keep it from caking.

>

> If you have fibromyalgia, moving is essential. The

> less you move, the worse it gets! . . . Gentle

> stretches, etc. Excercise, in the conventional sense,

> is out of the question. If you have someone who would

> learn basic massage techniques to help you, it would

> be very beneficial. With FM, you also have a sleep

> disorder. It's essential that you get sufficient deep

> sleep that your body can rebuild itself every night.

> Some of the ladies have recommended some sleep aids.

> I've taken Temazapam, 15 mg. for years with no side

> effects.

>

> Also, call the pharmacist and see if there's silicone

> dioxide in the medications you're taking. It's in an

> amazing number of medications! If it's in Cipro, that

> may be why you're reacting so badly to it.

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

I would be ok with telling them. Interestingly enough, his wife has

implants (she had cancer and had reconstruction) - I often wonder if

a plastic surgeon's wife or daughter suddenly started having

symptoms from implant sickness, would they still deny any connection

to immune problems? His wife tried to talk me out of getting an

explant, and I really did not want to hear what she had to say

because I know I got sick because of implants.

Sis

>

> Sis,

>

> Would you mind telling Leonard

> <nml@c...> and Zuckerman

> <dz@c...> about your experience?

>

> One of the things the FDA says on their website is

> that women with autoimmune problems are not good

> candidates for breast implants.

>

> I guess when you're looking at several thousand

> dollars sitting there - with a possiblity of a long

> term redo patient, it's hard to be honest! He/she

> probably figures they would enjoy a nice trip more

> than you would anyway! , , ,

>

> Oops! . . am I being ugly again?

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

OMG, nothing is safe is it? i have the drug manufacturer's insert for

diflucan and it doesn't have silicone dioxide.it lists the

ingredients. i'll ask my pharmacist for the one for cipro or look it

up online.my salt has calcium silicate in it. is that what you were

talking about? i wonder why dr. kolb didn't mention any of that? i

know saline implants have some silicone in them but why do i have to

avoid silicone if i don't have silicone implants? is it just because

it's another toxin? my sleeping aid sonata has silicon dioxide in it,

oh that's just great!i only take it about 3 times a week and it took

me a while to find something i could tolerate and that worked well

for me without hangover effects the next day.life is starting to look

real lousy right about now.i cant imagine having to eat my collard

greens, rutabegas, squash, etc. raw or only lightly steamed. i do

steam things like carrots and caulifower and broccoli.i'm just

getting to the point where i don't even want to eat anymore. seems

like everything in life that you like or makes you feel good is bad

for you. i can't imagine anyone's appetite or taste buds being

stimulated by raw veggies. i have eaten them mostly because they're

good for me. not that i don't like any of them but i like macaroni

and cheese a whole lot better.

>

> Cosima,

>

> You really have had a rough time of it. It's a shame

> the plastic surgeon didn't ask you about what health

> problems you had prior to implanting you. There should

> have been red flags all over the place.

>

> Once you get your implants out, you should take a lot

> of the burden off your body. It sounds like you're

> doing everything you can think of . . .

>

> Just a couple suggestions. Kathy has been using a

> product line " Miracle II " . They have a multipurpose

> product that can be used for washing your hair, skin

> and teeth. . . She's raved about it. I keep intending

> to get some myself!!! appleadayandbeyond.com carries

> it.

>

> Also . . . microwaving food kills the live part of

> food. You may find you get more nutrition from your

> foods by cooking them on the stove top or oven. Patty

> can tell you a lot more about that! . . . As one

> naturopath put it . . . use your microwave for a

> breadbox!

>

> And, a simple suggestion . . . use sea salt instead of

> table salt. Table salt is what's left after all the

> natural minerals are removed and junk added

> (silica-alumina?) to keep it from caking.

>

> If you have fibromyalgia, moving is essential. The

> less you move, the worse it gets! . . . Gentle

> stretches, etc. Excercise, in the conventional sense,

> is out of the question. If you have someone who would

> learn basic massage techniques to help you, it would

> be very beneficial. With FM, you also have a sleep

> disorder. It's essential that you get sufficient deep

> sleep that your body can rebuild itself every night.

> Some of the ladies have recommended some sleep aids.

> I've taken Temazapam, 15 mg. for years with no side

> effects.

>

> Also, call the pharmacist and see if there's silicone

> dioxide in the medications you're taking. It's in an

> amazing number of medications! If it's in Cipro, that

> may be why you're reacting so badly to it.

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

Getting used to eating raw fruit and vegies is a big decision, and

takes effort. I have always liked my pasta and cereals, bread,

etc. But since I started eating the organic fruit and vegies, I

have really started to appreciate them. not only do I love the

taste now, but I prefer them. I bought black grapes yesterday and

when I was washing them, held them up by the stem - they were so

pretty!! I'm weird, I know, but just thought I would let you know

it was an effort for me in the beginning, but now I like it better.

Cherie

>

> OMG, nothing is safe is it? i have the drug manufacturer's insert

for

> diflucan and it doesn't have silicone dioxide.it lists the

> ingredients. i'll ask my pharmacist for the one for cipro or look

it

> up online.my salt has calcium silicate in it. is that what you

were

> talking about? i wonder why dr. kolb didn't mention any of that? i

> know saline implants have some silicone in them but why do i have

to

> avoid silicone if i don't have silicone implants? is it just

because

> it's another toxin? my sleeping aid sonata has silicon dioxide in

it,

> oh that's just great!i only take it about 3 times a week and it

took

> me a while to find something i could tolerate and that worked well

> for me without hangover effects the next day.life is starting to

look

> real lousy right about now.i cant imagine having to eat my collard

> greens, rutabegas, squash, etc. raw or only lightly steamed. i do

> steam things like carrots and caulifower and broccoli.i'm just

> getting to the point where i don't even want to eat anymore. seems

> like everything in life that you like or makes you feel good is

bad

> for you. i can't imagine anyone's appetite or taste buds being

> stimulated by raw veggies. i have eaten them mostly because

they're

> good for me. not that i don't like any of them but i like macaroni

> and cheese a whole lot better.

>

>

>

> --- In , Rogene S <saxony01@y...>

wrote:

> >

> > Cosima,

> >

> > You really have had a rough time of it. It's a shame

> > the plastic surgeon didn't ask you about what health

> > problems you had prior to implanting you. There should

> > have been red flags all over the place.

> >

> > Once you get your implants out, you should take a lot

> > of the burden off your body. It sounds like you're

> > doing everything you can think of . . .

> >

> > Just a couple suggestions. Kathy has been using a

> > product line " Miracle II " . They have a multipurpose

> > product that can be used for washing your hair, skin

> > and teeth. . . She's raved about it. I keep intending

> > to get some myself!!! appleadayandbeyond.com carries

> > it.

> >

> > Also . . . microwaving food kills the live part of

> > food. You may find you get more nutrition from your

> > foods by cooking them on the stove top or oven. Patty

> > can tell you a lot more about that! . . . As one

> > naturopath put it . . . use your microwave for a

> > breadbox!

> >

> > And, a simple suggestion . . . use sea salt instead of

> > table salt. Table salt is what's left after all the

> > natural minerals are removed and junk added

> > (silica-alumina?) to keep it from caking.

> >

> > If you have fibromyalgia, moving is essential. The

> > less you move, the worse it gets! . . . Gentle

> > stretches, etc. Excercise, in the conventional sense,

> > is out of the question. If you have someone who would

> > learn basic massage techniques to help you, it would

> > be very beneficial. With FM, you also have a sleep

> > disorder. It's essential that you get sufficient deep

> > sleep that your body can rebuild itself every night.

> > Some of the ladies have recommended some sleep aids.

> > I've taken Temazapam, 15 mg. for years with no side

> > effects.

> >

> > Also, call the pharmacist and see if there's silicone

> > dioxide in the medications you're taking. It's in an

> > amazing number of medications! If it's in Cipro, that

> > may be why you're reacting so badly to it.

> >

> > Hugs and prayers,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Cherie, how funny, I bought black grapes yesterday, too!!! I am

really enjoying my new diet as well, and find I'm looking forward to

eating more now that I'm eating healthier. Before my explant, I was

eating junk that was normally not part of my diet, because I craved

it and I think I figured nothing was going to improve until the

implants were gone, so I figured I'd have my last hurrah. Once it

becomes a habit, it's much easier to do, but at first it seems like

a struggle.

Sis

> > >

> > > Cosima,

> > >

> > > You really have had a rough time of it. It's a shame

> > > the plastic surgeon didn't ask you about what health

> > > problems you had prior to implanting you. There should

> > > have been red flags all over the place.

> > >

> > > Once you get your implants out, you should take a lot

> > > of the burden off your body. It sounds like you're

> > > doing everything you can think of . . .

> > >

> > > Just a couple suggestions. Kathy has been using a

> > > product line " Miracle II " . They have a multipurpose

> > > product that can be used for washing your hair, skin

> > > and teeth. . . She's raved about it. I keep intending

> > > to get some myself!!! appleadayandbeyond.com carries

> > > it.

> > >

> > > Also . . . microwaving food kills the live part of

> > > food. You may find you get more nutrition from your

> > > foods by cooking them on the stove top or oven. Patty

> > > can tell you a lot more about that! . . . As one

> > > naturopath put it . . . use your microwave for a

> > > breadbox!

> > >

> > > And, a simple suggestion . . . use sea salt instead of

> > > table salt. Table salt is what's left after all the

> > > natural minerals are removed and junk added

> > > (silica-alumina?) to keep it from caking.

> > >

> > > If you have fibromyalgia, moving is essential. The

> > > less you move, the worse it gets! . . . Gentle

> > > stretches, etc. Excercise, in the conventional sense,

> > > is out of the question. If you have someone who would

> > > learn basic massage techniques to help you, it would

> > > be very beneficial. With FM, you also have a sleep

> > > disorder. It's essential that you get sufficient deep

> > > sleep that your body can rebuild itself every night.

> > > Some of the ladies have recommended some sleep aids.

> > > I've taken Temazapam, 15 mg. for years with no side

> > > effects.

> > >

> > > Also, call the pharmacist and see if there's silicone

> > > dioxide in the medications you're taking. It's in an

> > > amazing number of medications! If it's in Cipro, that

> > > may be why you're reacting so badly to it.

> > >

> > > Hugs and prayers,

> > >

> > > Rogene

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Tari,

Maybe some of the ladies here have some suggestions

for getting rid of the red area.

Is the skin hard where the rash is?

Where the idea came from, I can't imagine. But, I had

an area of scleroderma on one leg. I wrapped a piece

of Kombucha mushroom around that area and left it

there for hours at a time . . . Maybe four times. . .

The area started clearing and is now almost normal. .

.. but it started growing coarse, thick dark hair. That

was years ago. It still grows more hair than the rest

of my legs.

Hugs,

Rogene