Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Cosima, We tend to use the terms fungus, mold, yeast and Candida interchangably. This isn't right I know. . But, short of having lab tests done to determine exactly what you're dealing with, it's all in the same category. All these organisms are encouraged by antibiotics because the beneficial organisms everyone has in their body is killed off by these drugs. The beneficial organisms keep the negative ones in check. Unfortuately, the negative ones rebound faster than the beneficial ones and you end up with a problem. When your immune systems is damaged by a long term battle with something like breast implants, the antifungal meds kill off the negative organisms. . . Then you need the probiotics to put positive organisms back in your body. This will take a while! Primal Defense is outstanding. However a good brand of Acidopholis (from the refrigerator section of a health food store), yogurt, buttermilk, naturally fermented foods like sauerkraut and Keflir also have beneficial organisms. There's no quick or easy solutions. Eating as naturally as possible helps tremendously. Eliminate every chemical from your diet and your environment possible. . . Sweating helps get rid of toxins . . . hot baths, even without Epsom salts can help. Exercise helps. Drinking pure water is a must. If you'll keep a journal of what you are doing and how you feel, you'll begin to see a connection. Getting better is two steps forward and one step back. You're going to get to know your body like never before. In the long run, you'll be healthier than you've ever been. But for now, please be patient with yourself! You're going to get there. I can see your determination coming through! Also you will need to learn to recognise a Herx effect for what it is . . . You will feel worse temporarily because what you are doing found it's mark. . . When you finish a herx, you should feel better than you have in some time. Learning to control the herxes so you don't get so sick you can't function is key. Hugs and prayers, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Cosima, You really have had a rough time of it. It's a shame the plastic surgeon didn't ask you about what health problems you had prior to implanting you. There should have been red flags all over the place. Once you get your implants out, you should take a lot of the burden off your body. It sounds like you're doing everything you can think of . . . Just a couple suggestions. Kathy has been using a product line " Miracle II " . They have a multipurpose product that can be used for washing your hair, skin and teeth. . . She's raved about it. I keep intending to get some myself!!! appleadayandbeyond.com carries it. Also . . . microwaving food kills the live part of food. You may find you get more nutrition from your foods by cooking them on the stove top or oven. Patty can tell you a lot more about that! . . . As one naturopath put it . . . use your microwave for a breadbox! And, a simple suggestion . . . use sea salt instead of table salt. Table salt is what's left after all the natural minerals are removed and junk added (silica-alumina?) to keep it from caking. If you have fibromyalgia, moving is essential. The less you move, the worse it gets! . . . Gentle stretches, etc. Excercise, in the conventional sense, is out of the question. If you have someone who would learn basic massage techniques to help you, it would be very beneficial. With FM, you also have a sleep disorder. It's essential that you get sufficient deep sleep that your body can rebuild itself every night. Some of the ladies have recommended some sleep aids. I've taken Temazapam, 15 mg. for years with no side effects. Also, call the pharmacist and see if there's silicone dioxide in the medications you're taking. It's in an amazing number of medications! If it's in Cipro, that may be why you're reacting so badly to it. Hugs and prayers, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Hi, Rogene, We just learned in school last week that cooking of any kind kills off the live part of food. 60% of our diet should be raw! Lightly steaming is acceptable, if you can't eat a certain vegetable raw. Kenda > Also . . . microwaving food kills the live part of > food. You may find you get more nutrition from your > foods by cooking them on the stove top or oven. Patty > can tell you a lot more about that! . . . As one > naturopath put it . . . use your microwave for a > breadbox! > > And, a simple suggestion . . . use sea salt instead of > table salt. Table salt is what's left after all the > natural minerals are removed and junk added > (silica-alumina?) to keep it from caking. > > If you have fibromyalgia, moving is essential. The > less you move, the worse it gets! . . . Gentle > stretches, etc. Excercise, in the conventional sense, > is out of the question. If you have someone who would > learn basic massage techniques to help you, it would > be very beneficial. With FM, you also have a sleep > disorder. It's essential that you get sufficient deep > sleep that your body can rebuild itself every night. > Some of the ladies have recommended some sleep aids. > I've taken Temazapam, 15 mg. for years with no side > effects. > > Also, call the pharmacist and see if there's silicone > dioxide in the medications you're taking. It's in an > amazing number of medications! If it's in Cipro, that > may be why you're reacting so badly to it. > > Hugs and prayers, > > Rogene > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care > professional before commencing any medical treatment. > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link: > http://.shutterfly.com/action/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Kenda, Can you imagine what is left of food after it's been deep fried? It's so sad that so many children are being brought up on such terrible diets. Is there any wonder there are so many learning and behavior problems? My poor hubby is taking care of me the past few days because I had more dental surgery. His idea of food is awful! . . . No wonder he complains that I'm sneaking veggies into everything. To him, they simply don't exist! If you can't open a can or a package, it's impossible to prepare. Heaven help us both if I get really sick! Hugs, Rogene --- Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@...> wrote: > Hi, Rogene, > > We just learned in school last week that cooking of > any kind kills off the > live part of food. 60% of our diet should be raw! > Lightly steaming is > acceptable, if you can't eat a certain vegetable > raw. > > Kenda > > > > Also . . . microwaving food kills the live part of > > food. You may find you get more nutrition from > your > > foods by cooking them on the stove top or oven. > Patty > > can tell you a lot more about that! . . . As one > > naturopath put it . . . use your microwave for a > > breadbox! > > > > And, a simple suggestion . . . use sea salt > instead of > > table salt. Table salt is what's left after all > the > > natural minerals are removed and junk added > > (silica-alumina?) to keep it from caking. > > > > If you have fibromyalgia, moving is essential. The > > less you move, the worse it gets! . . . Gentle > > stretches, etc. Excercise, in the conventional > sense, > > is out of the question. If you have someone who > would > > learn basic massage techniques to help you, it > would > > be very beneficial. With FM, you also have a sleep > > disorder. It's essential that you get sufficient > deep > > sleep that your body can rebuild itself every > night. > > Some of the ladies have recommended some sleep > aids. > > I've taken Temazapam, 15 mg. for years with no > side > > effects. > > > > Also, call the pharmacist and see if there's > silicone > > dioxide in the medications you're taking. It's in > an > > amazing number of medications! If it's in Cipro, > that > > may be why you're reacting so badly to it. > > > > Hugs and prayers, > > > > Rogene > > > > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place > of advice given by licensed > > health care professionals. Consult your physician > or licensed health care > > professional before commencing any medical > treatment. > > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the > politicians mislead you. > > Find out what the facts are, and make your own > decisions about how to live a > > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - > Linus ing, two-time > > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > > > > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for > access at this link: > > http://.shutterfly.com/action/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Sis, Would you mind telling Leonard <nml@...> and Zuckerman <dz@...> about your experience? One of the things the FDA says on their website is that women with autoimmune problems are not good candidates for breast implants. I guess when you're looking at several thousand dollars sitting there - with a possiblity of a long term redo patient, it's hard to be honest! He/she probably figures they would enjoy a nice trip more than you would anyway! , , , Oops! . . am I being ugly again? Hugs, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Hi Rogene! Food isn't food after it is deep fried. People forget that food is fuel for their bodies. A body doesn't run in the absence of good nutrition. Your husband sounds like mine, only mine doesn't cook, he goes out to find food for us. Kenda > Kenda, > > Can you imagine what is left of food after it's been > deep fried? > > It's so sad that so many children are being brought up > on such terrible diets. Is there any wonder there are > so many learning and behavior problems? > > My poor hubby is taking care of me the past few days > because I had more dental surgery. His idea of food is > awful! . . . No wonder he complains that I'm sneaking > veggies into everything. To him, they simply don't > exist! If you can't open a can or a package, it's > impossible to prepare. > > Heaven help us both if I get really sick! > > Hugs, > > Rogene > > > --- Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@...> wrote: > >> Hi, Rogene, >> >> We just learned in school last week that cooking of >> any kind kills off the >> live part of food. 60% of our diet should be raw! >> Lightly steaming is >> acceptable, if you can't eat a certain vegetable >> raw. >> >> Kenda >> >> >>> Also . . . microwaving food kills the live part of >>> food. You may find you get more nutrition from >> your >>> foods by cooking them on the stove top or oven. >> Patty >>> can tell you a lot more about that! . . . As one >>> naturopath put it . . . use your microwave for a >>> breadbox! >>> >>> And, a simple suggestion . . . use sea salt >> instead of >>> table salt. Table salt is what's left after all >> the >>> natural minerals are removed and junk added >>> (silica-alumina?) to keep it from caking. >>> >>> If you have fibromyalgia, moving is essential. The >>> less you move, the worse it gets! . . . Gentle >>> stretches, etc. Excercise, in the conventional >> sense, >>> is out of the question. If you have someone who >> would >>> learn basic massage techniques to help you, it >> would >>> be very beneficial. With FM, you also have a sleep >>> disorder. It's essential that you get sufficient >> deep >>> sleep that your body can rebuild itself every >> night. >>> Some of the ladies have recommended some sleep >> aids. >>> I've taken Temazapam, 15 mg. for years with no >> side >>> effects. >>> >>> Also, call the pharmacist and see if there's >> silicone >>> dioxide in the medications you're taking. It's in >> an >>> amazing number of medications! If it's in Cipro, >> that >>> may be why you're reacting so badly to it. >>> >>> Hugs and prayers, >>> >>> Rogene >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place >> of advice given by licensed >>> health care professionals. Consult your physician >> or licensed health care >>> professional before commencing any medical >> treatment. >>> >>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the >> politicians mislead you. >>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own >> decisions about how to live a >>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - >> Linus ing, two-time >>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) >>> >>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for >> access at this link: >>> http://.shutterfly.com/action/ >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 Cosmia, Even saline implants have a silicone shell. IF you are sensitized to silicone, you could be reacting to small amounts elsewhere in your environment. The only way you will know for sure is to have a silicone hypersensitity test run. Right now, I wouldn't worry about it. IF you are hypersensitive to silica, you'll find it's in a lot of veggies too . . . especially the skins! Just what you didn't want to hear, right? . . Let Lana tell you about that. She's done the detective work! Please don't stress! I know things feel overwhelming right now . . . Stress makes all this worse - so, don't try to do everything perfect. Do what you can, and don't worry about the rest. You will get there - One step at a time! Hugs and prayers, Rogene --- Cosima <cosimaf@...> wrote: > OMG, nothing is safe is it? i have the drug > manufacturer's insert for > diflucan and it doesn't have silicone dioxide.it > lists the > ingredients. i'll ask my pharmacist for the one for > cipro or look it > up online.my salt has calcium silicate in it. is > that what you were > talking about? i wonder why dr. kolb didn't mention > any of that? i > know saline implants have some silicone in them but > why do i have to > avoid silicone if i don't have silicone implants? is > it just because > it's another toxin? my sleeping aid sonata has > silicon dioxide in it, > oh that's just great!i only take it about 3 times a > week and it took > me a while to find something i could tolerate and > that worked well > for me without hangover effects the next day.life is > starting to look > real lousy right about now.i cant imagine having to > eat my collard > greens, rutabegas, squash, etc. raw or only lightly > steamed. i do > steam things like carrots and caulifower and > broccoli.i'm just > getting to the point where i don't even want to eat > anymore. seems > like everything in life that you like or makes you > feel good is bad > for you. i can't imagine anyone's appetite or taste > buds being > stimulated by raw veggies. i have eaten them mostly > because they're > good for me. not that i don't like any of them but i > like macaroni > and cheese a whole lot better. > > > > > > > > Cosima, > > > > You really have had a rough time of it. It's a > shame > > the plastic surgeon didn't ask you about what > health > > problems you had prior to implanting you. There > should > > have been red flags all over the place. > > > > Once you get your implants out, you should take a > lot > > of the burden off your body. It sounds like you're > > doing everything you can think of . . . > > > > Just a couple suggestions. Kathy has been using a > > product line " Miracle II " . They have a > multipurpose > > product that can be used for washing your hair, > skin > > and teeth. . . She's raved about it. I keep > intending > > to get some myself!!! appleadayandbeyond.com > carries > > it. > > > > Also . . . microwaving food kills the live part of > > food. You may find you get more nutrition from > your > > foods by cooking them on the stove top or oven. > Patty > > can tell you a lot more about that! . . . As one > > naturopath put it . . . use your microwave for a > > breadbox! > > > > And, a simple suggestion . . . use sea salt > instead of > > table salt. Table salt is what's left after all > the > > natural minerals are removed and junk added > > (silica-alumina?) to keep it from caking. > > > > If you have fibromyalgia, moving is essential. The > > less you move, the worse it gets! . . . Gentle > > stretches, etc. Excercise, in the conventional > sense, > > is out of the question. If you have someone who > would > > learn basic massage techniques to help you, it > would > > be very beneficial. With FM, you also have a sleep > > disorder. It's essential that you get sufficient > deep > > sleep that your body can rebuild itself every > night. > > Some of the ladies have recommended some sleep > aids. > > I've taken Temazapam, 15 mg. for years with no > side > > effects. > > > > Also, call the pharmacist and see if there's > silicone > > dioxide in the medications you're taking. It's in > an > > amazing number of medications! If it's in Cipro, > that > > may be why you're reacting so badly to it. > > > > Hugs and prayers, > > > > Rogene > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 Sis, I doubt that those in the medical community are any quicker to make the connection than anyone else. The doctor I was seeing when I was so sick refused to consider my implants were making me so sick. . . Come to find out, his wife had implants and had a couple children after getting them. I quit going to him. A couple years later, he sent a grocery bag of the antihistamines I had taken for years with my husband. I think that was his way of reaching out to me. I guess I should have contacted him. But I was feeling much better by then and rather angry at him. They've been fed the BS line that implants are safe - and they want to believe it! When they do get past denial though, it's horribly painful! Hugs, Rogene --- auntsisnj <auntsisnj@...> wrote: > I would be ok with telling them. Interestingly > enough, his wife has > implants (she had cancer and had reconstruction) - I > often wonder if > a plastic surgeon's wife or daughter suddenly > started having > symptoms from implant sickness, would they still > deny any connection > to immune problems? His wife tried to talk me out > of getting an > explant, and I really did not want to hear what she > had to say > because I know I got sick because of implants. > > Sis > > > > > > > Sis, > > > > Would you mind telling Leonard > > <nml@c...> and Zuckerman > > <dz@c...> about your experience? > > > > One of the things the FDA says on their website is > > that women with autoimmune problems are not good > > candidates for breast implants. > > > > I guess when you're looking at several thousand > > dollars sitting there - with a possiblity of a > long > > term redo patient, it's hard to be honest! He/she > > probably figures they would enjoy a nice trip more > > than you would anyway! , , , > > > > Oops! . . am I being ugly again? > > > > Hugs, > > > > Rogene > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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