Re: Autism/Asperger's and diet

[Guest guest]

> I was curious about everyone's findings regarding one's diet in relation to

AS? My husband and I agree that the prevalence of Autism must have something to

do with all the chemicals in the foods we ingest, cleaning products we use, and

preservatives in immunizations (yes, I went there lol).

I have my own ideas on this subject.

I believe we are combining two different conditions here, that have very similar

symptom sets.

A) genetic brain wiring differences that result in Spectrum conditions. These

have always been present in the human population, and are unaffected by

environmental things. This is why many of us AS folk can trace AS back several

generations in our families.

2) environmental toxins of various sorts which may, in sensitive people, produce

effects that resemble Spectrum type A. People in this group may have their

symptoms increase or decrease as a result of a different diet, eliminating some

chemicals, moving away from sources of pollution, etc.

And, there may be some people that have both types, so their spectrum-ness is

more severe than it would otherwise be because of the environment.

Philosophically, there is a problem with all the Type 2 " cures " -- the people

espousing them assume that all forms of Spectrum issues are a dis-order and that

a cure is possible. But AS comes with its own set of strengths and different

ways of relating to the world, some of which are more adaptive than how NTs

function. [in a true emergency, I don't panic -- ever. I get calmer, my mind

works better, and I do very well through the crisis.] Assuming Spectrum has a

cure implies that I am damaged goods, and I know I am not!

--Liz

------------

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[Guest guest]

Liz,

Thank you. I appreciate your perspective. I was under the assumption that

Autism and Asperger's was not so deeply intertwined with human history, so thank

you for setting me right.

Do you think that the different characteristics are more of a personality type

that is being misunderstood?

Please forgive my ignorance on this, and I am always open to corrections!

>

> > I was curious about everyone's findings regarding one's diet in relation to

AS? My husband and I agree that the prevalence of Autism must have something to

do with all the chemicals in the foods we ingest, cleaning products we use, and

preservatives in immunizations (yes, I went there lol).

>

> I have my own ideas on this subject.

>

> I believe we are combining two different conditions here, that have very

similar symptom sets.

>

> A) genetic brain wiring differences that result in Spectrum conditions. These

have always been present in the human population, and are unaffected by

environmental things. This is why many of us AS folk can trace AS back several

generations in our families.

>

> 2) environmental toxins of various sorts which may, in sensitive people,

produce effects that resemble Spectrum type A. People in this group may have

their symptoms increase or decrease as a result of a different diet, eliminating

some chemicals, moving away from sources of pollution, etc.

>

>

> And, there may be some people that have both types, so their spectrum-ness is

more severe than it would otherwise be because of the environment.

>

>

> Philosophically, there is a problem with all the Type 2 " cures " -- the people

espousing them assume that all forms of Spectrum issues are a dis-order and that

a cure is possible. But AS comes with its own set of strengths and different

ways of relating to the world, some of which are more adaptive than how NTs

function. [in a true emergency, I don't panic -- ever. I get calmer, my mind

works better, and I do very well through the crisis.] Assuming Spectrum has a

cure implies that I am damaged goods, and I know I am not!

>

> --Liz

>

> ------------

> The Aspie Parent blog: http://aspergersparent.wordpress.com/

>

> SF, science, and Gifted Ed butons, mugs, and other items at

http://www.zazzle.com/CartesianBear*

> Higher Quality Adult & kid shirts at http://www.printfection.com/cartesianbear

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with Liz. Some AS traits are superior to NT.Shauna

> I was curious about everyone's findings regarding one's diet in relation to AS? My husband and I agree that the prevalence of Autism must have something to do with all the chemicals in the foods we ingest, cleaning products we use, and preservatives in immunizations (yes, I went there lol).

I have my own ideas on this subject.

I believe we are combining two different conditions here, that have very similar symptom sets.

A) genetic brain wiring differences that result in Spectrum conditions. These have always been present in the human population, and are unaffected by environmental things. This is why many of us AS folk can trace AS back several generations in our families.

2) environmental toxins of various sorts which may, in sensitive people, produce effects that resemble Spectrum type A. People in this group may have their symptoms increase or decrease as a result of a different diet, eliminating some chemicals, moving away from sources of pollution, etc.

And, there may be some people that have both types, so their spectrum-ness is more severe than it would otherwise be because of the environment.

Philosophically, there is a problem with all the Type 2 "cures" -- the people espousing them assume that all forms of Spectrum issues are a dis-order and that a cure is possible. But AS comes with its own set of strengths and different ways of relating to the world, some of which are more adaptive than how NTs function. [in a true emergency, I don't panic -- ever. I get calmer, my mind works better, and I do very well through the crisis.] Assuming Spectrum has a cure implies that I am damaged goods, and I know I am not!

--Liz

------------

The Aspie Parent blog: http://aspergersparent.wordpress.com/

SF, science, and Gifted Ed butons, mugs, and other items at http://www.zazzle.com/CartesianBear*

Higher Quality Adult & kid shirts at http://www.printfection.com/cartesianbear

[Guest guest]

I am on a gluten free and dairy free diet as well as getting rid of most

sugars. I am personally more inclined to think that AS/spectrum people are

like the canaries in the mines... we are more sensitive to things that are

harming everyone thus we have 'allergies'. But that's just an opinion, I

have no factual basis per say.

I have found since getting rid of these foods that I spend way less time in

the bathroom, lost all my stomach aches, stopped most of my skin itching,

greatly reduced my headaches, got rid of all my heartburn, etc... But

perhaps the most exciting change to me was for the first time in my life I

knew what it is like to have a completely clear head. All these years I

struggled thinking I was stupid... in reality my brain was chemically

imbalanced.... or something. Looking back I can only describe it as walking

around in a perpetual fog. Like walking in knee deep mud.

Eating those foods I am allergic too also affects my emotional balance.

Dairy for example makes me extremely edgy. Gluten on the other hand makes me

incredible stupid/foggy/sleepy.

Jennie

Autism/Asperger's and diet

> To all,

>

> I don't know if this has been discussed before, but I was curious about

> everyone's findings regarding one's diet in relation to AS? My husband

> and I agree that the prevalence of Autism must have something to do with

> all the chemicals in the foods we ingest, cleaning products we use, and

> preservatives in immunizations (yes, I went there lol). Do I blame shots

> specifically? No. However, I do believe that the chemicals in the shots

> could be a key component in triggering the onset of AS and Autism. Just

> like the dyes and preservatives in food, and the volitile substances found

> in cleaning products. I think that those chemicals play a part in the

> prevalence of learning disorders in general.

>

> Now, I am no science buff, I'm just observing.

>

> Has anyone tried changing their diet to a gluten, caisen, dye,

> preservative, lactose, etc free diet? If so, have there been any

> significant changes in how you felt or behaved? NT spouses: if you have

> experienced this, what were your observations? Just curious!

>

> Since we have a daughter that has been diagnosed PDD-NOS, I am curious if

> this is an avenue that we should persue. She does not seem to overreact

> to anything in her diet, but if we can find some way to make her

> day-to-day any easier, it's worth it! Not to mention, it may do something

> for my husband and the rest of us as well. He is physically fit, but his

> diet is questionable lol.

>

> Anyway, just throw in what you know, your observations... etc!

>

> God Bless All!!

>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> " We each have our own way of living in the world, together we

> are like a symphony.

> Some are the melody, some are the rhythm, some are the harmony

> It all blends together, we are like a symphony, and each part is crucial.

> We all contribute to the song of life. "

> ...Sondra

>

> We might not always agree; but TOGETHER we will make a difference.

>

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[Guest guest]

I agree, cleaning up my diet certainly didn't 'cure' me of AS. Ha Ha ha. My

AS traits are a part of who I am internally. Food allergies are just that...

allergies, while they affect my thinking and my emotional balance, they

don't any more than they would affect any person. Jennie AS

Re: Autism/Asperger's and diet

>

>

>

>> I was curious about everyone's findings regarding one's diet in relation

>> to AS? My husband and I agree that the prevalence of Autism must have

>> something to do with all the chemicals in the foods we ingest, cleaning

>> products we use, and preservatives in immunizations (yes, I went there

>> lol).

>

> I have my own ideas on this subject.

>

> I believe we are combining two different conditions here, that have very

> similar symptom sets.

>

> A) genetic brain wiring differences that result in Spectrum conditions.

> These have always been present in the human population, and are unaffected

> by environmental things. This is why many of us AS folk can trace AS back

> several generations in our families.

>

> 2) environmental toxins of various sorts which may, in sensitive people,

> produce effects that resemble Spectrum type A. People in this group may

> have their symptoms increase or decrease as a result of a different diet,

> eliminating some chemicals, moving away from sources of pollution, etc.

>

>

> And, there may be some people that have both types, so their spectrum-ness

> is more severe than it would otherwise be because of the environment.

>

>

> Philosophically, there is a problem with all the Type 2 " cures " -- the

> people espousing them assume that all forms of Spectrum issues are a

> dis-order and that a cure is possible. But AS comes with its own set of

> strengths and different ways of relating to the world, some of which are

> more adaptive than how NTs function. [in a true emergency, I don't

> panic -- ever. I get calmer, my mind works better, and I do very well

> through the crisis.] Assuming Spectrum has a cure implies that I am

> damaged goods, and I know I am not!

>

> --Liz

>

> ------------

> The Aspie Parent blog: http://aspergersparent.wordpress.com/

>

> SF, science, and Gifted Ed butons, mugs, and other items at

> http://www.zazzle.com/CartesianBear*

> Higher Quality Adult & kid shirts at

> http://www.printfection.com/cartesianbear

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> " We each have our own way of living in the world, together we

> are like a symphony.

> Some are the melody, some are the rhythm, some are the harmony

> It all blends together, we are like a symphony, and each part is crucial.

> We all contribute to the song of life. "

> ...Sondra

>

> We might not always agree; but TOGETHER we will make a difference.

>

> ASPIRES is a closed, confidential, moderated list.

> Responsibility for posts to ASPIRES lies entirely with the original

> author.

> Do NOT post mail off-list without the author's permission.

> When in doubt, please refer to our list rules at:

> http://www.aspires-relationships.com/info_rules.htm

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>

[Guest guest]

Just to clarify:

I did not intend to present diet changes as a cure, as I am aware that there is

no *cure* as much as there is no *sickness/disease.* I was merely looking for

personal experiences as to whether diet changes made life any easier for all

parties involved, especially the person with AS. I realize that certain

chemicals can affect some individuals differently than than others, and that

those with AS can sometimes present with sensitivities. However, there are cases

like my step-son, where no amount of diet changes did anything beneficial for

him. In fact, on some levels, it made things worse. I also realize that diet

changes can affect an NT as well as an AS.

I hope that helps my post make more sense

> >

> >> I was curious about everyone's findings regarding one's diet in relation

> >> to AS? My husband and I agree that the prevalence of Autism must have

> >> something to do with all the chemicals in the foods we ingest, cleaning

> >> products we use, and preservatives in immunizations (yes, I went there

> >> lol).

> >

> > I have my own ideas on this subject.

> >

> > I believe we are combining two different conditions here, that have very

> > similar symptom sets.

> >

> > A) genetic brain wiring differences that result in Spectrum conditions.

> > These have always been present in the human population, and are unaffected

> > by environmental things. This is why many of us AS folk can trace AS back

> > several generations in our families.

> >

> > 2) environmental toxins of various sorts which may, in sensitive people,

> > produce effects that resemble Spectrum type A. People in this group may

> > have their symptoms increase or decrease as a result of a different diet,

> > eliminating some chemicals, moving away from sources of pollution, etc.

> >

> >

> > And, there may be some people that have both types, so their spectrum-ness

> > is more severe than it would otherwise be because of the environment.

> >

> >

> > Philosophically, there is a problem with all the Type 2 " cures " -- the

> > people espousing them assume that all forms of Spectrum issues are a

> > dis-order and that a cure is possible. But AS comes with its own set of

> > strengths and different ways of relating to the world, some of which are

> > more adaptive than how NTs function. [in a true emergency, I don't

> > panic -- ever. I get calmer, my mind works better, and I do very well

> > through the crisis.] Assuming Spectrum has a cure implies that I am

> > damaged goods, and I know I am not!

> >

> > --Liz

> >

> > ------------

> > The Aspie Parent blog: http://aspergersparent.wordpress.com/

> >

> > SF, science, and Gifted Ed butons, mugs, and other items at

> > http://www.zazzle.com/CartesianBear*

> > Higher Quality Adult & kid shirts at

> > http://www.printfection.com/cartesianbear

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > " We each have our own way of living in the world, together we

> > are like a symphony.

> > Some are the melody, some are the rhythm, some are the harmony

> > It all blends together, we are like a symphony, and each part is crucial.

> > We all contribute to the song of life. "

> > ...Sondra

> >

> > We might not always agree; but TOGETHER we will make a difference.

> >

> > ASPIRES is a closed, confidential, moderated list.

> > Responsibility for posts to ASPIRES lies entirely with the original

> > author.

> > Do NOT post mail off-list without the author's permission.

> > When in doubt, please refer to our list rules at:

> > http://www.aspires-relationships.com/info_rules.htm

> > ASPIRES ~ Climbing the mountain TOGETHER

> > http://www.aspires-relationships.com

> >

[Guest guest]

Absolutely! There are areas of life that my husband handles with an abundance

of grace and calmness that I could never even hope to imitate, let alone

practice. For example: I envy his ability to handle meltdowns and behavior

problems with our kids, I only wish I could remain that calm and focused!

> >

> > > I was curious about everyone's findings regarding one's diet in

> > relation to AS? My husband and I agree that the prevalence of Autism

> > must have something to do with all the chemicals in the foods we

> > ingest, cleaning products we use, and preservatives in immunizations

> > (yes, I went there lol).

> >

> > I have my own ideas on this subject.

> >

> > I believe we are combining two different conditions here, that have

> > very similar symptom sets.

> >

> > A) genetic brain wiring differences that result in Spectrum

> > conditions. These have always been present in the human population,

> > and are unaffected by environmental things. This is why many of us

> > AS folk can trace AS back several generations in our families.

> >

> > 2) environmental toxins of various sorts which may, in sensitive

> > people, produce effects that resemble Spectrum type A. People in

> > this group may have their symptoms increase or decrease as a result

> > of a different diet, eliminating some chemicals, moving away from

> > sources of pollution, etc.

> >

> > And, there may be some people that have both types, so their

> > spectrum-ness is more severe than it would otherwise be because of

> > the environment.

> >

> > Philosophically, there is a problem with all the Type 2 " cures " --

> > the people espousing them assume that all forms of Spectrum issues

> > are a dis-order and that a cure is possible. But AS comes with its

> > own set of strengths and different ways of relating to the world,

> > some of which are more adaptive than how NTs function. [in a true

> > emergency, I don't panic -- ever. I get calmer, my mind works

> > better, and I do very well through the crisis.] Assuming Spectrum

> > has a cure implies that I am damaged goods, and I know I am not!

> >

> > --Liz

> >

> > ------------

> > The Aspie Parent blog: http://aspergersparent.wordpress.com/

> >

> > SF, science, and Gifted Ed butons, mugs, and other items at

http://www.zazzle.com/CartesianBear*

> > Higher Quality Adult & kid shirts at

http://www.printfection.com/cartesianbear

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hold on , that becomes a problem, just like people who believe in Indigo Children, the minute one species of human becomes superior or special, we are setting the stage for another holocaust of some kind. Just mho!

Lowry

To: "aspires-relationships " <aspires-relationships >Sent: Thu, June 17, 2010 6:22:44 PMSubject: Re: Autism/Asperger's and diet

I agree with Liz. Some AS traits are superior to NT.

Shauna

On Jun 17, 2010, at 4:50 PM, Liz Cademy <zcademyverizon (DOT) net> wrote:

> I was curious about everyone's findings regarding one's diet in relation to AS? My husband and I agree that the prevalence of Autism must have something to do with all the chemicals in the foods we ingest, cleaning products we use, and preservatives in immunizations (yes, I went there lol).I have my own ideas on this subject.I believe we are combining two different conditions here, that have very similar symptom sets.A) genetic brain wiring differences that result in Spectrum conditions. These have always been present in the human population, and are unaffected by environmental things. This is why many of us AS folk can trace AS back several generations in our families.2) environmental toxins of various sorts which may, in sensitive people, produce effects that resemble Spectrum type A. People in this group may have their symptoms increase or decrease as a result

of a different diet, eliminating some chemicals, moving away from sources of pollution, etc.And, there may be some people that have both types, so their spectrum-ness is more severe than it would otherwise be because of the environment.Philosophically, there is a problem with all the Type 2 "cures" -- the people espousing them assume that all forms of Spectrum issues are a dis-order and that a cure is possible. But AS comes with its own set of strengths and different ways of relating to the world, some of which are more adaptive than how NTs function. [in a true emergency, I don't panic -- ever. I get calmer, my mind works better, and I do very well through the crisis.] Assuming Spectrum has a cure implies that I am damaged goods, and I know I am not! --Liz------------The Aspie Parent blog: http://aspergerspar ent.wordpress. com/SF, science, and Gifted Ed butons, mugs, and other items at http://www.zazzle. com/CartesianBea r*Higher Quality Adult & kid shirts at http://www.printfec tion.com/ cartesianbear

[Guest guest]

,

I think that the point of that was to say that people with AS excel in some

areas where a NT may, or may not, fall short. In a time of crisis, my husband

can remain calm and handle a situation logically (him being the AS), whereas I

let my emotions hijack my thoughts and everything becomes foggy and confusing.

This is not to say that it applies to everyone, but that there is a bit of a

trend in AS people having the ability to overcome some things that a NT person

may have difficulty surmounting. Of course, this is only a generalization as

anything is possible

> >>

> >>> I was curious about everyone's findings regarding one's diet in relation

to AS? My husband and I agree that the prevalence of Autism must have something

to do with all the chemicals in the foods we ingest, cleaning products we use,

and preservatives in immunizations (yes, I went there lol).

> >>

> >>I have my own ideas on this subject.

> >>

> >>I believe we are combining two different conditions here, that have very

similar symptom sets.

> >>

> >>A) genetic brain wiring differences that result in Spectrum conditions.

These have always been present in the human population, and are unaffected by

environmental things. This is why many of us AS folk can trace AS back several

generations in our families.

> >>

> >>2) environmental toxins of various sorts which may, in sensitive people,

produce effects that resemble Spectrum type A. People in this group may have

their symptoms increase or decrease as a result of a different diet, eliminating

some chemicals, moving away from sources of pollution, etc.

> >>

> >>And, there may be some people that have both types, so their spectrum-ness

is more severe than it would otherwise be because of the environment.

> >>

> >>Philosophically, there is a problem with all the Type 2 " cures " -- the

people espousing them assume that all forms of Spectrum issues are a dis-order

and that a cure is possible. But AS comes with its own set of strengths and

different ways of relating to the world, some of which are more adaptive than

how NTs function. [in a true emergency, I don't panic -- ever. I get calmer, my

mind works better, and I do very well through the crisis.] Assuming Spectrum has

a cure implies that I am damaged goods, and I know I am not!

> >>

> >>--Liz

> >>

> >>------------

> >>The Aspie Parent blog: http://aspergerspar ent.wordpress. com/

> >>

> >>SF, science, and Gifted Ed butons, mugs, and other items at

http://www.zazzle. com/CartesianBea r*

> >>Higher Quality Adult & kid shirts at http://www.printfec tion.com/

cartesianbear

> >>

> >>

> >

>

[Guest guest]



And vice versa.... J

Re: Autism/Asperger's and diet

I agree with Liz. Some AS traits are superior to NT.

Shauna

> I was curious about everyone's findings regarding one's diet in relation to AS? My husband and I agree that the prevalence of Autism must have something to do with all the chemicals in the foods we ingest, cleaning products we use, and preservatives in immunizations (yes, I went there lol).I have my own ideas on this subject.I believe we are combining two different conditions here, that have very similar symptom sets.A) genetic brain wiring differences that result in Spectrum conditions. These have always been present in the human population, and are unaffected by environmental things. This is why many of us AS folk can trace AS back several generations in our families.2) environmental toxins of various sorts which may, in sensitive people, produce effects that resemble Spectrum type A. People in this group may have their symptoms increase or decrease as a result of a different diet, eliminating some chemicals, moving away from sources of pollution, etc.And, there may be some people that have both types, so their spectrum-ness is more severe than it would otherwise be because of the environment.Philosophically, there is a problem with all the Type 2 "cures" -- the people espousing them assume that all forms of Spectrum issues are a dis-order and that a cure is possible. But AS comes with its own set of strengths and different ways of relating to the world, some of which are more adaptive than how NTs function. [in a true emergency, I don't panic -- ever. I get calmer, my mind works better, and I do very well through the crisis.] Assuming Spectrum has a cure implies that I am damaged goods, and I know I am not! --Liz------------The Aspie Parent blog: http://aspergersparent.wordpress.com/SF, science, and Gifted Ed butons, mugs, and other items at http://www.zazzle.com/CartesianBear*Higher Quality Adult & kid shirts at http://www.printfection.com/cartesianbear

[Guest guest]

No problem Jennie, I just wanted to be sure I wasn't confusing anyone!

>

> My bad, I didn't edit and make it clear I was responding with agreement to

> Liz's point about:

>

> Philosophically, there is a problem with all the Type 2 " cures " -- the

> >> > people espousing them assume that all forms of Spectrum issues are a

> >> > dis-order and that a cure is possible. But AS comes with its own set of

> >> > strengths and different ways of relating to the world, some of which

> >> > are

> >> > more adaptive than how NTs function. [in a true emergency, I don't

> >> > panic -- ever. I get calmer, my mind works better, and I do very well

> >> > through the crisis.] Assuming Spectrum has a cure implies that I am

> >> > damaged goods, and I know I am not!

> >> >

> >> > --Liz

>

> My post was not meant to be an assumption about your words... :-)

> Jennie

>

> Re: Autism/Asperger's and diet

>

>

> > Just to clarify:

> >

> > I did not intend to present diet changes as a cure, as I am aware that

> > there is no *cure* as much as there is no *sickness/disease.* I was

> > merely looking for personal experiences as to whether diet changes made

> > life any easier for all parties involved, especially the person with AS.

> > I realize that certain chemicals can affect some individuals differently

> > than than others, and that those with AS can sometimes present with

> > sensitivities. However, there are cases like my step-son, where no amount

> > of diet changes did anything beneficial for him. In fact, on some levels,

> > it made things worse. I also realize that diet changes can affect an NT

> > as well as an AS.

> >

> > I hope that helps my post make more sense

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hold on , that becomes a problem, just like people who believe in Indigo

Children, the minute one species of human becomes superior or special, we are

setting the stage for another holocaust of some kind. Just mho!

Oh, boy, this is my night for speeches! I swear, if you met me in person, I am

really quite introverted and shy.

I said, and meant *some* traits. Definitely not all, definitely not a

superiority.

AS is a difference, one with the potential for significant problems. The human

species evolved with NT as normal, autism brains are abnormal (in the

statistical sense, not as a judgement). Some of us may have superior traits, but

we all have significant weaknesses compared to the average NT person.

--Liz

who remembers the Indigo Child flack ... and is an Indigo Adult by online tests

.... but sure ain't no angel (though I often feel alien)

[Guest guest]

Liz,

Kind of off topic, but I became curious about Indigo children/adults, as I have

never heard of such a thing. I went and took a quiz, and most of the questions

did resonate with me (however, some absolutely did not). By the test results, I

am considered an Indigo Adult. Guess I will be looking more into this, since my

curiosity is now out of control

Just thought I'd share that with you!

>

> >

> > Hold on , that becomes a problem, just like people who believe in Indigo

Children, the minute one species of human becomes superior or special, we are

setting the stage for another holocaust of some kind. Just mho!

>

> Oh, boy, this is my night for speeches! I swear, if you met me in person, I am

really quite introverted and shy.

>

> I said, and meant *some* traits. Definitely not all, definitely not a

superiority.

>

> AS is a difference, one with the potential for significant problems. The human

species evolved with NT as normal, autism brains are abnormal (in the

statistical sense, not as a judgement). Some of us may have superior traits, but

we all have significant weaknesses compared to the average NT person.

>

> --Liz

> who remembers the Indigo Child flack ... and is an Indigo Adult by online

tests ... but sure ain't no angel (though I often feel alien)

>

[Guest guest]

Jennie,

I can agree with the both of you in the fact that if a parent has no knowledge

of such a thing, they lack the skills to effectively teach their child to

successfully navigate a predominately NT world. Hence the unintentional neglect

or excessive punishment for misunderstood behavior. Now, that is not to say an

AS is lost without such guidance forever, but it does force them to find their

own, sometimes unhealthy, coping skills. My husband was lucky in the fact that

his mother is AS, but unlucky in the fact that she did not know what lay ahead

for him, thereby unable to prepare him for the NT world. She has stated to me

on several occasions that had she known, she would have been more forceful in

pushing him out of his shell (to help of course, as she sees what a lack of this

has done in her life) more often. He, like many other AS people I have read

about, is an amazing mimic, but can only hold down the act so long before he

burns out. I think that the recent diagnoses is starting to help him be more

comfortable in his own skin.

Anyway... there I go rambling yet again lol. Just wanted to throw in some

thoughts!

>

> I'll go ahead and hang out on that limb with you... hopefully it's not a

> small limb that breaks under the weight of the two of us.. LOL

>

> I would also add that perfectly normal decent people could potentially

> unknowingly and unintentionally abuse their AS/autistic children not

> realizing they relate to the world in a completely different way and

> experience the world from a high sensitivity level.

>

> Jennie AS

>

> Re: Re: Autism/Asperger's and diet

>

>

> > I'm going to go way, way out on a limb next. I'll be talking in

> > generalities, and not about anyone in particular. Also, my opinions are

> > based on reading e-mails and talking to other people, not on any sound

> > research. OK?

> >

> > I think a lot (but not all of the reason why mild-moderate Aspies have

> > trouble negotiating Life is from bad parenting. Sometimes the parenting is

> > all the way to abusive or criminally neglectful. Other times, it's because

> > the (Aspie?) parents were clueless about rearing AS kids, and did all the

> > wrong things. In either case, the now adult is carrying a lot of troubles

> > that affect his/her relationships.

> >

> > One benefit of the current " epidemic " of AS, and the fad nature of Aspies

> > in movies and TV, is that adults are getting a better idea that parenting

> > Aspie kids is different than parenting NT kids. [Not automatically harder,

> > just different.] And I believe if AS kids get the right type of good

> > parenting, they will grow up to be more emotionally stable, and better in

> > relationships.

> >

> > --Liz

>

[Guest guest]

I don't intend on going the vegan route. Most of my stuff is vegetarian, but

don't see myself going fully veggie.

K.

> >

> > To all,

> >

> > I don't know if this has been discussed before, but I was curious about

everyone's findings regarding one's diet in relation to AS? My husband and I

agree that the prevalence of Autism must have something to do with all the

chemicals in the foods we ingest, cleaning products we use, and preservatives in

immunizations (yes, I went there lol). Do I blame shots specifically? No.

However, I do believe that the chemicals in the shots could be a key component

in triggering the onset of AS and Autism. Just like the dyes and preservatives

in food, and the volitile substances found in cleaning products. I think that

those chemicals play a part in the prevalence of learning disorders in general.

> >

> > Now, I am no science buff, I'm just observing.

> >

> > Has anyone tried changing their diet to a gluten, caisen, dye, preservative,

lactose, etc free diet? If so, have there been any significant changes in how

you felt or behaved? NT spouses: if you have experienced this, what were your

observations? Just curious!

> >

> > Since we have a daughter that has been diagnosed PDD-NOS, I am curious if

this is an avenue that we should persue. She does not seem to overreact to

anything in her diet, but if we can find some way to make her day-to-day any

easier, it's worth it! Not to mention, it may do something for my husband and

the rest of us as well. He is physically fit, but his diet is questionable lol.

> >

> > Anyway, just throw in what you know, your observations... etc!

> >

> > God Bless All!!

> >

> >

> >

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