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Dear Lesley,

I am forever breaking my dettox, remember what I was eating when I met you in london, and sweet stuff is such a temptation especially chocolate. That said its really important that you try to stick with it otherwise things can get out of control like the candida, i should know as I am suffering for it now. I have got the makers diet book from Amazon it was only £14.99 and with that you get a book on meal planning with menu's, I have also got a number to order some probiotics soil based which a friend of mine takes and is feeling really well on, I am also going to get something called Dida from the health food store, i will email you over the phone number so you can order some. Its really hard to stick with but its so important I am learning that the hard way, you may have seen my posts about my heart going out of control well I am pretty sure that its self inflicted as my diet has lapsed, not saying it will happen to you but try hard to stick with things. The ladies on this site have all got well because they have stuck to the diet and dettoxing, they are a wealth of information.

I really understand how you feel, but I know you can do it.

Love Sue

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Lesley,

Don't be hard on yourself when you fail....we all do! It is next to

impossible to do this detox thing 100% perfect all the time. There are

simply just too many temptations around!

So, the answer is to have strategies. Since we know that temptations

will come, we need to have ways of moving around them, over them, or

through them that will get us back on track. If you've failed once,

don't talk yourself into believing that all is lost! You've been

sidetracked for just a moment in time, and you can get back to it in

no time flat. What you need is weapons to use for your success.

I haven't actually sat down and listed my strategies, so I will just

give a few suggestions here. Maybe we can come up with some kind of

list that will help us all in these times when we need to get back on

track. Anyone--jump in here and let's help each other through this!

Here are a few of my strategies:

**Eliminate all sugars and sweets for a period of two or more weeks.

Make that a goal. Once you've attained that goal, see if you can keep

going longer. If not, indulge in something on a small scale, and

limit your portions. Allow yourself the pleasure, but be reasonable.

**Once you've gone two or more weeks, make a much longer goal. Say, a

year. I once went a whole year without chocolate. When that year was

up, I hardly noticed because I didn't crave chocolate anymore! I no

longer really crave sweets at all. Same thing happened with ice cream--

I used to be a major ice cream freak, but that is a thing of the

past. I can pass up ice cream with no problem. So, make goals that

are longer and longer in length, and eventually those cravings will go

away!

Remove all tempting foods from the house. If others have them around,

ask them to find a safe hiding place for their stash so you can't find

it.

If elimination of sugars and sweets for a period of time has not

reduced your desire for those foods, give yourself one " mad day " a

week. Go 6 days without sweets of any kind, knowing that on the 7th

day, you can indulge on a limited scale. Fix your portions. Know

exactly how much you are going to allow yourself to eat, which should

be a smaller rather than larger amount.

Eat slowly and deliberately, rather than gobbling things up. Slow

eating allows your brain chemicals to recognize and signal when you

have had enough, and you will end up eating less.

Drink lots of water.

Before you are tempted to pop those sweets in your mouth, try to

recall how you are going to feel afterward. Bring to mind that brain

fog, that sluggishness, the fatigue, the dizziness, all the ugly stuff

that happens when you eat sugars and sweets and chocolate. Tell

yourself it isn't worth it! Then go for a little walk or get outside

for some fresh air and get your mind on something else.

Take up a new hobby that you can get into when you feel like eating.

Things that use your hands, like crocheting or knitting.

Holidays don't count. Life is to be enjoyed. Eat what you want if you

find yourself lacking control. When the holiday is over, recognize

that it's time to get back to eating correctly, but do it with joy

too, and anticipation of the good rewards you are going to have for

eating healthy!

Lesley, you can do it! And your husband is going to be so proud of

you.

Love,

Patty

>

> I was doing well on my detox but i have failed badly this week and i

> have suffered i dont think it can be a coincidence my problem is

suger

> and choclate i just cant live without it i have one piece and then i

> think well ive had some now i might as well carry on im hopeless my

> husband has been very supportive but he is losing patients and says i

> dont want to get better i do of course but i just find it so hard.

> love Lesley

>

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lesley, you are soooo not alone! Many of us struggle with chocolate

addictions. I do! The secret for me is not to be around it. I have

been known to throw away entire bags of candy because if it is in the

house I will have it! I can't stop. I deliberately didn't buy

halloween candy until the day of halloween because I would eat several

candy bars a day until it was gone and then buy more. Well, this year

I didn't even have a craving because I wasn't eating any sugar. But I

had the three musketeer bars in my house less than an hour and I was

in them. I ate some on halloween and the next day had three more. I

was hooked! I told my husband to take them to work! It is easy to

control what foods we allow in our house, but social situations are

another story! One thing I do know for me is this---once I stop

eating sweets for several days or weeks, I quit desiring them. But

just like an achoholic, if I indulge again, the urge is back! I think

it is important to tell yourself that each minute is the start of a

new future. In other words, maybe you messed up right now with some

candy. Instead of being in the dumps, just tell yourself that was

then and this is now, and you are starting over. This works alot

better than feeling defeated and depressed and then saying " oh, well,

its too late now, Imight as well eat the rest. " Get rid of all sugar

in your house and absolutely refuse to buy it or allow anyone to have

it in the house (unless you don't know about it). Good luck and you

will eventually succeed! But there are none of us here who never

gives into temptation! God bless you.

love, kathy

-- In , " lesley daley "

<lesley.mchugh@t...> wrote:

>

> I was doing well on my detox but i have failed badly this week and i

> have suffered i dont think it can be a coincidence my problem is

suger

> and choclate i just cant live without it i have one piece and then i

> think well ive had some now i might as well carry on im hopeless my

> husband has been very supportive but he is losing patients and says i

> dont want to get better i do of course but i just find it so hard.

> love Lesley

>

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Patty,

I'd like to add one more suggestion . . .

When one does " fall off the wagon " . . . doubling up

on probiotics can help reduce the fungal growth sugar

encourages. . . Acidopholis, garlic, Primal Defense,

Oil of Oregano, Olive Leaf Extract, sauerkraut and

other naturally fermented foods.

Rogene

--- glory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401@...> wrote:

> Lesley,

> Don't be hard on yourself when you fail....we all

> do! It is next to

> impossible to do this detox thing 100% perfect all

> the time. There are

> simply just too many temptations around!

>

> So, the answer is to have strategies. Since we know

> that temptations

> will come, we need to have ways of moving around

> them, over them, or

> through them that will get us back on track. If

> you've failed once,

> don't talk yourself into believing that all is lost!

> You've been

> sidetracked for just a moment in time, and you can

> get back to it in

> no time flat. What you need is weapons to use for

> your success.

>

> I haven't actually sat down and listed my

> strategies, so I will just

> give a few suggestions here. Maybe we can come up

> with some kind of

> list that will help us all in these times when we

> need to get back on

> track. Anyone--jump in here and let's help each

> other through this!

>

> Here are a few of my strategies:

>

> **Eliminate all sugars and sweets for a period of

> two or more weeks.

> Make that a goal. Once you've attained that goal,

> see if you can keep

> going longer. If not, indulge in something on a

> small scale, and

> limit your portions. Allow yourself the pleasure,

> but be reasonable.

>

> **Once you've gone two or more weeks, make a much

> longer goal. Say, a

> year. I once went a whole year without chocolate.

> When that year was

> up, I hardly noticed because I didn't crave

> chocolate anymore! I no

> longer really crave sweets at all. Same thing

> happened with ice cream--

> I used to be a major ice cream freak, but that is a

> thing of the

> past. I can pass up ice cream with no problem. So,

> make goals that

> are longer and longer in length, and eventually

> those cravings will go

> away!

>

> Remove all tempting foods from the house. If others

> have them around,

> ask them to find a safe hiding place for their stash

> so you can't find

> it.

>

> If elimination of sugars and sweets for a period of

> time has not

> reduced your desire for those foods, give yourself

> one " mad day " a

> week. Go 6 days without sweets of any kind, knowing

> that on the 7th

> day, you can indulge on a limited scale. Fix your

> portions. Know

> exactly how much you are going to allow yourself to

> eat, which should

> be a smaller rather than larger amount.

>

> Eat slowly and deliberately, rather than gobbling

> things up. Slow

> eating allows your brain chemicals to recognize and

> signal when you

> have had enough, and you will end up eating less.

>

> Drink lots of water.

>

> Before you are tempted to pop those sweets in your

> mouth, try to

> recall how you are going to feel afterward. Bring

> to mind that brain

> fog, that sluggishness, the fatigue, the dizziness,

> all the ugly stuff

> that happens when you eat sugars and sweets and

> chocolate. Tell

> yourself it isn't worth it! Then go for a little

> walk or get outside

> for some fresh air and get your mind on something

> else.

>

> Take up a new hobby that you can get into when you

> feel like eating.

> Things that use your hands, like crocheting or

> knitting.

>

> Holidays don't count. Life is to be enjoyed. Eat

> what you want if you

> find yourself lacking control. When the holiday is

> over, recognize

> that it's time to get back to eating correctly, but

> do it with joy

> too, and anticipation of the good rewards you are

> going to have for

> eating healthy!

>

> Lesley, you can do it! And your husband is going to

> be so proud of

> you.

> Love,

> Patty

>

>

> >

> > I was doing well on my detox but i have failed

> badly this week and i

> > have suffered i dont think it can be a coincidence

> my problem is

> suger

> > and choclate i just cant live without it i have

> one piece and then i

> > think well ive had some now i might as well carry

> on im hopeless my

> > husband has been very supportive but he is losing

> patients and says i

> > dont want to get better i do of course but i just

> find it so hard.

> > love Lesley

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Lesley,

It's really tough because every cell in your body is

screaming for sugar to feed those nasty yeasties! So

don't beat yourself up. Throw all the sugar out of the

house and start over. Take it one day at a time . . .

Plan ahead with something that satisfies your appetite

for something sweet.

There are some diabetic candies that taste very good.

Of course, they have artificial sweeteners and I

wouldn't recommend switching from sugar to them.

However, they might get you over the hump until your

body is adjusting to being sugar free. If you find

they increase your sugar cravings though . . . forget

about that!

If you can find something you really enjoy doing, that

can help get your mind off the sugar cravings too. Do

you have any hobbies? When I get into my pottery, time

doesn't exist . . . I forget meals, etc.

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

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Exellent advice, as usual, Rogene!

I have more to add myself:

Try using Gymnestre Sylvestre, an herb that helps to curb sugar

cravings. http://www.painstresscenter.com/mall/GymnemaSylvestre.asp

Try satisfying a sweet tooth with fruits first, or fruit desserts,

such as Apple crisp, or cherry cobbler, using whole grains. A fruit

smoothie, made with fruit and yogurt can be very satisfying. Eating

fruits to satisfy your sweet tooth will provide fiber and nutrients,

making you feel more satisifed longer. Avoid eating sweets that

have are nothing but a sugary confection of sugar, oil and butter,

which will only make you crave more.

Use natural sugar (Sucanat) in place of white sugar.

We can keep adding to this list! I'll create a file and put it in

our files section.

Patty

> > >

> > > I was doing well on my detox but i have failed

> > badly this week and i

> > > have suffered i dont think it can be a coincidence

> > my problem is

> > suger

> > > and choclate i just cant live without it i have

> > one piece and then i

> > > think well ive had some now i might as well carry

> > on im hopeless my

> > > husband has been very supportive but he is losing

> > patients and says i

> > > dont want to get better i do of course but i just

> > find it so hard.

> > > love Lesley

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Lesley,

I too have had a struggle with this, but now I am on day 4. I looked at photos

of myself

just a few years ago when I was thinner, and I remember how much energy I had

then. Of

course that was before I got sick, but ...

It is vitally important that I stop sugar (i am diabetic) and lose the weight if

I am ever going

to have energy.

I weighed myself today and am starting a journal. I hope this will help.

You may not need to lose weight, but maybe a journal could still help.

>

> Dear Lesley,

>

> I am forever breaking my dettox, remember what I was eating when I met you

> in london, and sweet stuff is such a temptation especially chocolate. That

said

> its really important that you try to stick with it otherwise things can get

> out of control like the candida, i should know as I am suffering for it now.

> I have got the makers diet book from Amazon it was only £14.99 and with that

> you get a book on meal planning with menu's, I have also got a number to

> order some probiotics soil based which a friend of mine takes and is feeling

> really well on, I am also going to get something called Dida from the health

food

> store, i will email you over the phone number so you can order some. Its

> really hard to stick with but its so important I am learning that the hard

way,

> you may have seen my posts about my heart going out of control well I am

> pretty sure that its self inflicted as my diet has lapsed, not saying it will

> happen to you but try hard to stick with things. The ladies on this site have

> all got well because they have stuck to the diet and dettoxing, they are a

> wealth of information.

> I really understand how you feel, but I know you can do it.

>

> Love Sue

>

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Patty,

Have you tried this herb? I wonder if I could take it with my meds (including

metformin,

for high blood sugar)...

> > > >

> > > > I was doing well on my detox but i have failed

> > > badly this week and i

> > > > have suffered i dont think it can be a coincidence

> > > my problem is

> > > suger

> > > > and choclate i just cant live without it i have

> > > one piece and then i

> > > > think well ive had some now i might as well carry

> > > on im hopeless my

> > > > husband has been very supportive but he is losing

> > > patients and says i

> > > > dont want to get better i do of course but i just

> > > find it so hard.

> > > > love Lesley

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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Thanks everyone im not going to give up i cant ban sugar from my house

5 teenagers would kill me but i will try harder i like diabetic

choclare but i thought it would still be dairy and i didnt know i

could eat yogart on a detox it would be very helpfull if there was a

link with all these hints and differant things you can eat on a detox

and i think i would cope better if i could have 6 days on and treat

myself to 1 day off.love Lesley

> >

> > Dear Lesley,

> >

> > I am forever breaking my dettox, remember what I was eating when I

met you

> > in london, and sweet stuff is such a temptation especially

chocolate. That said

> > its really important that you try to stick with it otherwise

things can get

> > out of control like the candida, i should know as I am suffering

for it now.

> > I have got the makers diet book from Amazon it was only £14.99

and with that

> > you get a book on meal planning with menu's, I have also got a

number to

> > order some probiotics soil based which a friend of mine takes and

is feeling

> > really well on, I am also going to get something called Dida from

the health food

> > store, i will email you over the phone number so you can order

some. Its

> > really hard to stick with but its so important I am learning that

the hard way,

> > you may have seen my posts about my heart going out of control

well I am

> > pretty sure that its self inflicted as my diet has lapsed, not

saying it will

> > happen to you but try hard to stick with things. The ladies on

this site have

> > all got well because they have stuck to the diet and dettoxing,

they are a

> > wealth of information.

> > I really understand how you feel, but I know you can do it.

> >

> > Love Sue

> >

>

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Molly,

Yes I have. Since I never really had a serious issue with sweets or

diabetes, I can't say that I need it, but it's good to know that it

is there if I do.

I am quite certain that you can take it with your meds, but you may

want to ask your doctor or do more research. This website says it is

very helpful for those with diabetes:

http://www.farmacopia.net/protocol_bloodsugar.html

VERY HELPFUL:

FIBER - Studies with daily supplementation with psyllium (7gm

twice/day), guar gum (5 gm/meal) or pectin (10gm/meal) reveal a

significantly reduced insulin requirements.

CHROMIUM - 200mcg/day related to its role in glucose tolerance

factor, helping insulin facilitate the cellular uptake of glucose.

VITAMIN C - Dosage is 1 - 3 gm/day. Intracellular Vitamin C is

deficient in diabetics. In addition, it reduces free-radical

activity, reduces the intracellular content of sorbitol, improves

blood sugar control and reduces protein glycosylation.

MAGNESIUM - Dosage is 12mg/2.2 lb of body weight. Magnesium

deficiency is common in diabetics, and is important in the secretion

and action of insulin.

VITAMIN E - Dosage is 400-800 IU/day improves glucose tolerance and

insulin sensitivity as well as reducing oxidative stress..

GYMNESTRE SYLVESTRE- an Ayur Vedic herb that appears to enhance

insulin production in Type I and II diabetics and increase the

number of Islets of Langerhans and beta cells, the latter findings

in experimental animals. Dosage is 400mg/day

BITTER MELON - A tropical fruit that contains compounds with

hypoglycemic activity has shown benefit in multiple clinical

studies. Dosage is 5 gms three times/day of a dried powder or 100ml

of an aqueous extract each morning.

Patty

> > > > >

> > > > > I was doing well on my detox but i have failed

> > > > badly this week and i

> > > > > have suffered i dont think it can be a coincidence

> > > > my problem is

> > > > suger

> > > > > and choclate i just cant live without it i have

> > > > one piece and then i

> > > > > think well ive had some now i might as well carry

> > > > on im hopeless my

> > > > > husband has been very supportive but he is losing

> > > > patients and says i

> > > > > dont want to get better i do of course but i just

> > > > find it so hard.

> > > > > love Lesley

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Hi Lesley,

I ordered some chocolate from Mercola the other day and it is sugar free, it

is just cocoa. I haven't received it yet so I can't tell you what it tastes

like but it is high in antioxidants and is supposedly actually healthy! :)

If you have a craving for chocolate, this may work and be good for you.

Kenda

> Thanks everyone im not going to give up i cant ban sugar from my house

> 5 teenagers would kill me but i will try harder i like diabetic

> choclare but i thought it would still be dairy and i didnt know i

> could eat yogart on a detox it would be very helpfull if there was a

> link with all these hints and differant things you can eat on a detox

> and i think i would cope better if i could have 6 days on and treat

> myself to 1 day off.love Lesley

>>>

>>> Dear Lesley,

>>>

>>> I am forever breaking my dettox, remember what I was eating when I

> met you

>>> in london, and sweet stuff is such a temptation especially

> chocolate. That said

>>> its really important that you try to stick with it otherwise

> things can get

>>> out of control like the candida, i should know as I am suffering

> for it now.

>>> I have got the makers diet book from Amazon it was only £14.99

> and with that

>>> you get a book on meal planning with menu's, I have also got a

> number to

>>> order some probiotics soil based which a friend of mine takes and

> is feeling

>>> really well on, I am also going to get something called Dida from

> the health food

>>> store, i will email you over the phone number so you can order

> some. Its

>>> really hard to stick with but its so important I am learning that

> the hard way,

>>> you may have seen my posts about my heart going out of control

> well I am

>>> pretty sure that its self inflicted as my diet has lapsed, not

> saying it will

>>> happen to you but try hard to stick with things. The ladies on

> this site have

>>> all got well because they have stuck to the diet and dettoxing,

> they are a

>>> wealth of information.

>>> I really understand how you feel, but I know you can do it.

>>>

>>> Love Sue

>>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

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Thanks, Patty.

Ice cream is my nemesis. After that, anything sweet. It's been a real battle.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I was doing well on my detox but i have failed

> > > > > badly this week and i

> > > > > > have suffered i dont think it can be a coincidence

> > > > > my problem is

> > > > > suger

> > > > > > and choclate i just cant live without it i have

> > > > > one piece and then i

> > > > > > think well ive had some now i might as well carry

> > > > > on im hopeless my

> > > > > > husband has been very supportive but he is losing

> > > > > patients and says i

> > > > > > dont want to get better i do of course but i just

> > > > > find it so hard.

> > > > > > love Lesley

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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, I am really struggling with th is too. Maybe we can support each

other!!

It's day 4, and a tough one!

> >

> > I was doing well on my detox but i have failed badly this week and i

> > have suffered i dont think it can be a coincidence my problem is

> suger

> > and choclate i just cant live without it i have one piece and then i

> > think well ive had some now i might as well carry on im hopeless my

> > husband has been very supportive but he is losing patients and says i

> > dont want to get better i do of course but i just find it so hard.

> > love Lesley

> >

>

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Lesley,

The Walmart here has a plain yogurt that has a little

container of dried apple and granola pieces to mix

with the yogurt. . . Delicious! . . . It may have a

little sugar in the yogurt, but it can't be much. I

don't know if all the stores are carrying it or not.

Personally, I'm concerned that, until one gets sugar

under control, six days on and one off would only

prolong the misery . . . Think of that is quitting

smoking for six days then smoking one day!!!

I have no doubt that, once the fungal organisms are

under control this would be doable . . . By then

you've restored the beneficial organisms that will

help handle the sugar.

BTW . . . sugar isn't doing teens any good either.

They are finding that in schools where junk foods are

eliminated, the kids are preforming much better. This

is a good time to gradually change their eating

patterns. They estimate that, given today's eating

habits, one out of three Americans is going to develop

diabetes.

Hugs,

Rogene

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Hi Kenda will you let me know what its like when you have tryed it

please i can add it to my xmas list love Lesley

> >>>

> >>> Dear Lesley,

> >>>

> >>> I am forever breaking my dettox, remember what I was eating when I

> > met you

> >>> in london, and sweet stuff is such a temptation especially

> > chocolate. That said

> >>> its really important that you try to stick with it otherwise

> > things can get

> >>> out of control like the candida, i should know as I am suffering

> > for it now.

> >>> I have got the makers diet book from Amazon it was only £14.99

> > and with that

> >>> you get a book on meal planning with menu's, I have also got a

> > number to

> >>> order some probiotics soil based which a friend of mine takes and

> > is feeling

> >>> really well on, I am also going to get something called Dida from

> > the health food

> >>> store, i will email you over the phone number so you can order

> > some. Its

> >>> really hard to stick with but its so important I am learning that

> > the hard way,

> >>> you may have seen my posts about my heart going out of control

> > well I am

> >>> pretty sure that its self inflicted as my diet has lapsed, not

> > saying it will

> >>> happen to you but try hard to stick with things. The ladies on

> > this site have

> >>> all got well because they have stuck to the diet and dettoxing,

> > they are a

> >>> wealth of information.

> >>> I really understand how you feel, but I know you can do it.

> >>>

> >>> Love Sue

> >>>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

by licensed

> > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

health care

> > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how

to live a

> > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

two-time

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Hi molly that would be great are you on Dr Knolb protocol ive just

been talking to Sue about the makers diet it sounds so much more

varied im going to order it tonight i will keep you posted. i stayed

on the protocol for three weeks and i did feel healthy but i feet very

deprived but i also think i could of been having more things i just

didnt know what good luck with yours and let me know how your getting

on. love Lesley

> > >

> > > I was doing well on my detox but i have failed badly this week and i

> > > have suffered i dont think it can be a coincidence my problem is

> > suger

> > > and choclate i just cant live without it i have one piece and then i

> > > think well ive had some now i might as well carry on im hopeless my

> > > husband has been very supportive but he is losing patients and

says i

> > > dont want to get better i do of course but i just find it so

hard.

> > > love Lesley

> > >

> >

>

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I am going to try to just stay away from sugar, and eat more fresh vegetables

and fruit.

And protein - fish, chicken etc.

I may try the makers diet but not just yet. ONe thing at a time - I th ink

Patty & are

right about taking it slow.

I have tried Dr. Kolb protocol and it is excellent. Right now, though, I am

just staying with

the diet I describe above, no sugar, and vitamins & Primal defense.

> > > >

> > > > I was doing well on my detox but i have failed badly this week and i

> > > > have suffered i dont think it can be a coincidence my problem is

> > > suger

> > > > and choclate i just cant live without it i have one piece and then i

> > > > think well ive had some now i might as well carry on im hopeless my

> > > > husband has been very supportive but he is losing patients and

> says i

> > > > dont want to get better i do of course but i just find it so

> hard.

> > > > love Lesley

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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This diet thing really is a life change . . . For

someone who is really sick, doing a sudden change may

be necessary.

However, for most of us, IMHO, a gradual change is

easier to accomplish. Think of it as a new way of

life. Discovering new foods that are tasty and

satisfying makes it much easier than trying to change

overnight.

When I'm around friends who eat the " old " way, I

realize how many changes I've made . . . Otherwise, I

hardly even think of it. . . .and I'm still not

" there " with The Maker's Diet.

Hugs,

Rogene

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I don't think this method prolongs the misery if you aren't one to

give in to sugar indulgences like crazy. Maybe it's just me though.

I seemed to do pretty good using a routine that was strict enough

for the most part, but allowed for those little indulgences along

the way. 6 days a week without sugar is still better than a little

bit on accident each day, and if you are using the Fungal defense or

similar products, you are going to be making progress in killing off

candida.

I'm not making excuses to allow women to eat sugar...In a perfect

world we might all be able to give up sugar completely. I admire

those who do! But the feeling of deprivation can be overwhelming

and lead to defeat. This may be one way to allow a measure of

success to go on to bigger and better goals.

One step at a time! I'm all for women eating a sugar free diet! But

sometimes it is easier in increments rather than trying to go cold

turkey.

As you said, once you give up sugary stuff and can live without it

for a period of time, then those sweet things become really

disgustingly sweet, and hopefully, you'll be eating less and less of

them.

Candida is always going to be there....you can never get rid of it

completely, but we can certainly get it under control. Sometimes it

takes longer than we want, but then each woman has to be able to do

what she is comfortable with, and I guess it boils down to how much

resolve you are going to have. It can be tough, but it can be done!

Patty

>

> Lesley,

>

> The Walmart here has a plain yogurt that has a little

> container of dried apple and granola pieces to mix

> with the yogurt. . . Delicious! . . . It may have a

> little sugar in the yogurt, but it can't be much. I

> don't know if all the stores are carrying it or not.

>

> Personally, I'm concerned that, until one gets sugar

> under control, six days on and one off would only

> prolong the misery . . . Think of that is quitting

> smoking for six days then smoking one day!!!

>

> I have no doubt that, once the fungal organisms are

> under control this would be doable . . . By then

> you've restored the beneficial organisms that will

> help handle the sugar.

>

> BTW . . . sugar isn't doing teens any good either.

> They are finding that in schools where junk foods are

> eliminated, the kids are preforming much better. This

> is a good time to gradually change their eating

> patterns. They estimate that, given today's eating

> habits, one out of three Americans is going to develop

> diabetes.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

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lesley

Good luck to you. I know you can do it. But I also think you can

ban the sugar. I had 2 teens in my house and told them if they

wanted something sweet, it would have to be with their own money and

I better not see it or know about it. They complained at first, but

now they eat less sweets too! They don't need it anymore than we do

and it is about time we all woke up and realized what our poor food

choices are doing to our health! I won't buy soda either. Now my

daughter has to ask if she can have soda in the house. I let her if

it is for a party. I am sure she drinks/eats whatever she wants

outside this house, but I for one am not going to subsidize bad

eating habits. Is that really doing them any favors? OUr kids need

to learn to make good food choices too. How are they ever going to

learn to do that if we tell them whatever junk they want to eat is

ok? My kids still love me. They may think I am a kook (health

freak) but they have accepted just fine.

Hugs, kathy

> > >

> > > Dear Lesley,

> > >

> > > I am forever breaking my dettox, remember what I was eating

when I

> met you

> > > in london, and sweet stuff is such a temptation especially

> chocolate. That said

> > > its really important that you try to stick with it otherwise

> things can get

> > > out of control like the candida, i should know as I am

suffering

> for it now.

> > > I have got the makers diet book from Amazon it was only £14.99

> and with that

> > > you get a book on meal planning with menu's, I have also got a

> number to

> > > order some probiotics soil based which a friend of mine takes

and

> is feeling

> > > really well on, I am also going to get something called Dida

from

> the health food

> > > store, i will email you over the phone number so you can order

> some. Its

> > > really hard to stick with but its so important I am learning

that

> the hard way,

> > > you may have seen my posts about my heart going out of control

> well I am

> > > pretty sure that its self inflicted as my diet has lapsed, not

> saying it will

> > > happen to you but try hard to stick with things. The ladies on

> this site have

> > > all got well because they have stuck to the diet and

dettoxing,

> they are a

> > > wealth of information.

> > > I really understand how you feel, but I know you can do it.

> > >

> > > Love Sue

> > >

> >

>

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For me, it's easier to stay away from the sugary things because they

make me feel so darn awful when I eat them!! Since having the

surgery, I've been really conscious of what I'm eating. I was trying

to eat lower sodium foods to minimize swelling (so the drains

wouldn't fill up and I could go home), and on my ride home I got a

hero sandwich with vegetables only, and it was great! Of course I

like chicken and beef, so I won't stop eating those, but I didn't

want cold cuts on my sandwich. Over the years I've gotten out of the

habits I had developed years ago - which was eating alot of fresh

veggies and fruit. Fruit doesn't bother me at all, so natural sugar

doesn't seem to be a problem with me, the processed stuff does. I'm

drinking alot of water, too. That's an area where I was lacking.

I'll occasionally have dessert if I go out to dinner, but I figure if

I'm not making it part of my regular diet then I should be ok with an

occasional slip. Today I'm going to buy some fresh pineapple because

that helps with swelling. My drains were removed and the holes

closed up, and this morning I woke up with a little soreness.

Sis

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lesley,

> > > >

> > > > I am forever breaking my dettox, remember what I was eating

> when I

> > met you

> > > > in london, and sweet stuff is such a temptation especially

> > chocolate. That said

> > > > its really important that you try to stick with it otherwise

> > things can get

> > > > out of control like the candida, i should know as I am

> suffering

> > for it now.

> > > > I have got the makers diet book from Amazon it was only

£14.99

> > and with that

> > > > you get a book on meal planning with menu's, I have also got

a

> > number to

> > > > order some probiotics soil based which a friend of mine

takes

> and

> > is feeling

> > > > really well on, I am also going to get something called Dida

> from

> > the health food

> > > > store, i will email you over the phone number so you can

order

> > some. Its

> > > > really hard to stick with but its so important I am learning

> that

> > the hard way,

> > > > you may have seen my posts about my heart going out of

control

> > well I am

> > > > pretty sure that its self inflicted as my diet has lapsed,

not

> > saying it will

> > > > happen to you but try hard to stick with things. The ladies

on

> > this site have

> > > > all got well because they have stuck to the diet and

> dettoxing,

> > they are a

> > > > wealth of information.

> > > > I really understand how you feel, but I know you can do it.

> > > >

> > > > Love Sue

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Hi Patty i think i will be ok with 6 days on and 1 off it will give me

something to look forward to at the end of the week. i have done the

spit test and i dont think i have got candida but would still need to

detox to get all this poisin out of me. love Lesley

> >

> > Lesley,

> >

> > The Walmart here has a plain yogurt that has a little

> > container of dried apple and granola pieces to mix

> > with the yogurt. . . Delicious! . . . It may have a

> > little sugar in the yogurt, but it can't be much. I

> > don't know if all the stores are carrying it or not.

> >

> > Personally, I'm concerned that, until one gets sugar

> > under control, six days on and one off would only

> > prolong the misery . . . Think of that is quitting

> > smoking for six days then smoking one day!!!

> >

> > I have no doubt that, once the fungal organisms are

> > under control this would be doable . . . By then

> > you've restored the beneficial organisms that will

> > help handle the sugar.

> >

> > BTW . . . sugar isn't doing teens any good either.

> > They are finding that in schools where junk foods are

> > eliminated, the kids are preforming much better. This

> > is a good time to gradually change their eating

> > patterns. They estimate that, given today's eating

> > habits, one out of three Americans is going to develop

> > diabetes.

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

>

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Hi Kathy i do try to keep my childrens diet healthy and i insist on

there fruit and veg but being a foster mum makes things a bit more

differcult i cant push my views on foster children and to be honest i

wouldnt want to some of these children are very fragile and when you

have left everything you know and love the last thing you need is to

be told what you must and must not eat they just have more to worry

about i do try and i am always introducing new healthy

alternitives.love Lesley

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lesley,

> > > >

> > > > I am forever breaking my dettox, remember what I was eating

> when I

> > met you

> > > > in london, and sweet stuff is such a temptation especially

> > chocolate. That said

> > > > its really important that you try to stick with it otherwise

> > things can get

> > > > out of control like the candida, i should know as I am

> suffering

> > for it now.

> > > > I have got the makers diet book from Amazon it was only £14.99

> > and with that

> > > > you get a book on meal planning with menu's, I have also got a

> > number to

> > > > order some probiotics soil based which a friend of mine takes

> and

> > is feeling

> > > > really well on, I am also going to get something called Dida

> from

> > the health food

> > > > store, i will email you over the phone number so you can order

> > some. Its

> > > > really hard to stick with but its so important I am learning

> that

> > the hard way,

> > > > you may have seen my posts about my heart going out of control

> > well I am

> > > > pretty sure that its self inflicted as my diet has lapsed, not

> > saying it will

> > > > happen to you but try hard to stick with things. The ladies on

> > this site have

> > > > all got well because they have stuck to the diet and

> dettoxing,

> > they are a

> > > > wealth of information.

> > > > I really understand how you feel, but I know you can do it.

> > > >

> > > > Love Sue

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Lesley - you seem to be very kind hearted, and these kids are lucky

to have you. I think your approach sounds like a good way to go

under the circumstances - I'm a stepmother and what I found is that

the parents can be strict and the kids will love them anyway (even if

they initially get angry with them). If the stepparent is strict the

kids resent them for it and pull away for good - so it's a tough

balancing act, and you might experience similar things with your

foster kids. As long as there are boundaries and the kids know you

care, you're doing the best you can. When I was a kid, my mother

pretty much bought meal type foods, but she would buy a special treat

for us every now and then (and the bag of whatever it was would be

gone in the same day she bought it!). There were four of us kids,

and if you didn't eat the snack food as soon as it arrived from the

store, it would be gone. To this day my friends remember when they

came to my house, we snacked on oatmeal with apple sauce mixed in

it!!

Sis

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Lesley,

> > > > >

> > > > > I am forever breaking my dettox, remember what I was eating

> > when I

> > > met you

> > > > > in london, and sweet stuff is such a temptation especially

> > > chocolate. That said

> > > > > its really important that you try to stick with it

otherwise

> > > things can get

> > > > > out of control like the candida, i should know as I am

> > suffering

> > > for it now.

> > > > > I have got the makers diet book from Amazon it was only

£14.99

> > > and with that

> > > > > you get a book on meal planning with menu's, I have also

got a

> > > number to

> > > > > order some probiotics soil based which a friend of mine

takes

> > and

> > > is feeling

> > > > > really well on, I am also going to get something called

Dida

> > from

> > > the health food

> > > > > store, i will email you over the phone number so you can

order

> > > some. Its

> > > > > really hard to stick with but its so important I am

learning

> > that

> > > the hard way,

> > > > > you may have seen my posts about my heart going out of

control

> > > well I am

> > > > > pretty sure that its self inflicted as my diet has lapsed,

not

> > > saying it will

> > > > > happen to you but try hard to stick with things. The

ladies on

> > > this site have

> > > > > all got well because they have stuck to the diet and

> > dettoxing,

> > > they are a

> > > > > wealth of information.

> > > > > I really understand how you feel, but I know you can do it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Love Sue

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Lesley,

How old are your foster kids? . . . With some kids,

you can discuss what you've been learning and explain

what you need to do for yourself . . . then discuss

the sugar issue just as you would with a friend.

I had one son who, if given an order, literally puffed

up and refused to do anything. But, even as a toddler,

if asked politely to do something, and explained why

he should do it, would do whatever he was asked. I

often wondered how he would survive in the business

world where supervisors were issuing orders. . . . He

solved that by going into business for himself when he

was 19. He's 48 now and still doing very well in the

same business.

All kids are different though . . . With my other son,

if you told him the fire was hot, he would put his

hand into it to see how hot! . . . He never has

learned from example - only from the school of hard

knocks!

Hugs,

Rogene

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