Re: 911:: Ben & Jerrys cop killer TRUTH

[Guest guest]

IF MR. BEN COHEN PROFITS FROM THE ACTIVITIES OF BEN AND JERRYS HOME MADE THEN

A BOYCOTT OF THE PRODUCTS PRODUCED BY BEN AND JERRYS HOME MADE IS BOTH JUST

AND APPROPRIATE.

IF HE WERE NOT ASSOCIATED WITH BEN AND JERRY'S HOME MADE THEN

HIS OPINION WOULD BE LESS INFLUENTIAL AND IMPORTANT.

[Guest guest]

>IF MR. BEN COHEN PROFITS FROM THE ACTIVITIES OF BEN AND JERRYS HOME MADE THEN

A BOYCOTT OF THE PRODUCTS PRODUCED BY BEN AND JERRYS HOME MADE IS BOTH JUST

AND APPROPRIATE.<

I would disagree... If he made it clear it was a personal decision.. nothing

to do with the company.. He has a right to a personal opinion, right or wrong.

It's my understanding when he was part of the group asking for a new

trial, he stated that the new trial might even find the subject guilty... He

just felt a new trial was in order.

He has a right to that opinion.

You have a right to boycott his product.

Weintraut

[Guest guest]

Ok, this is where I have to weigh in....If Ben Cohen were an ordinary

employee of Ben & Jerry's, just some guy who worked in the plant, I would

agree, but he's not. He's the co-founder, his name and face are on the

packaging. Just like if I say something, it's a personal opinion, but if

the Chief of Police says something, the office he holds automatically

associates him as speaking for the dept.

Also, I would not put a lot of stock in what Ben & Jerry's says to deny

this. They have a lot to lose.

Kim

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>

>That's right, just like this forum and most of us involved. Our opinions

>are ours, not that of who we work for.

>

>>IF MR. BEN COHEN PROFITS FROM THE ACTIVITIES OF BEN AND JERRYS HOME MADE

>THEN

>A BOYCOTT OF THE PRODUCTS PRODUCED BY BEN AND JERRYS HOME MADE IS BOTH JUST

>AND APPROPRIATE.<

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey people. Correct me if I'm wrong. This guy's not an employee. He's an

owner.

That's why his endorsement for this cause is important.

[Guest guest]

I'm with you 100% Kim. Seems like some our colleagues are missing the point.

Dan McMullen

[Guest guest]

we may be crossing e-mails but ben and jerrys is sold - ben is a nobody, etc

i respect everyone's opinion that have posted to the thread and thank you for

the variety of thoughts. I just have a hard time messing with someone's life

if i don't know the WHOLE truth. I wasn't asking folks to forgive B & J, just

to research it and disregard past rumor. IF you do the research and decide to

boycott - i respect that!

thannks all

[Guest guest]

--- Kim Kinsey wrote:

> Ok, this is where I have to weigh in....If Ben Cohen

> were an ordinary

> employee of Ben & Jerry's, just some guy who worked

> in the plant, I would

> agree, but he's not. He's the co-founder, his name

> and face are on the

> packaging. Just like if I say something, it's a

> personal opinion, but if

> the Chief of Police says something, the office he

> holds automatically

> associates him as speaking for the dept.

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Let me dash through here with a quick (and possibly

silly) alternate view:

I'm the webmistress of the Break Room. (Yah, one tiny

bit of electronic nonsense, no big corporation selling

anything, but let's follow me down this path for a

bit...)

I sign a petition in a mall. Maybe my views on

abortion, or homosexual couples desiring certain

" rights " , " are unpopular to others. Maybe even -

goodness! - diametrically opposed to some of y'all on

this list!

The Public Information Act(s) allow someone, some

member of the media or even just a regular Joe/Jane,

to see the names on those petitions. Oh NO!

Olmstead thinks differently! Has an opinion different

than mine! Even signed A PETITION asking for something

I think is WRONG!!! AAAUUUUGGGHHHH! Let's boycott

her website! Let's delete her e-mail without reading

it! Horrors!

Let's even send e-mail around the world about it!

Maybe we can get more and more people to trash her

" product! " Certainly NEVER surf to

" http://www.gryeyes.com " ever again! That'll show her

and maybe she'll see the error of HER ways!

Okay, here's another " hot " button.... she thinks

something related to our actual employment, something

to do with cops, maybe even a jury's or a judge's

decision in a capital case was wrong and she signs a

petition along with other misguided people, asking for

a review.

Now, does she splash this all over her website, her

" product? " Hmmmm. Don't see that anywhere. Hmmmmmm.

She does appear to be a proponent of recycling, she's

obviously committed to animal welfare and rescuing

homeless companion-animals and she may even be in

favor of saving the rain-forests, but we're not sure

about that. We ARE sure she signed this petition

though.... she's even admitted it. Obviously,

everything she's ever been associated with is trash

now.

Y'all better examine your own beliefs and be very

careful about signing petitions, 'cause if you ever

get famous, somebody will wave a copy of said petition

and ruin your otherwise good name. Doesn't matter what

good works you've done, you'll be branded by that

signature on an unpopular petition. You and your

prosperous business, too. Which, by the way, hasn't

been prostituted into advertising for the particular

issue currently at odds with others. (Just them

rain-forests and all.. but only other corporations who

slash & burn rainforests hate THAT!) But your company

will be just as bad as YOU are for having scribbled

your name on one of the many lines on a petition

somewhere, requesting a review of something somebody -

maybe even a whole lot of somebodies - thinks is

awful. And a bunch of other people - the ones with the

more Right viewpoint, of course - think THAT petition

is simply horrific. You should obviously pay for that.

Remember, what you say at work reflects on your

department. We've seen - even on this list - how what

you say off-duty, in e-mail, can be used by SOME folks

as " proof " that you're representing your department's

view when you post something. Many of us have

disclaimers (my usual signature line is on my other PC

in that e-mail program over there....dagnabbit!) to

disassociate us from our agencies' " views " so we think

we can express our own opinions, safely. HA! I've

been victim of that fallacy; some of y'all may have

been similarly affected by one or another of your

posts.

....okay, so it wasn't a quick dash, after all...

Revel in your personal opinions. Try to think them

through, if you can; examine all the facts that caused

you to believe that way (on any subject). If you

still hold to them, more power to ya. It IS a

democracy here in the United States. <grin>

=====

Happy to be here, proud to serve.

Olmstead

http://www.gryeyes.com

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[Guest guest]

Lord, it's gonna kill me to boycott Newman, but hey......principal is

principal. And I hope Sarandon gets really stinky seats at the

Rangers games next year.

Lyn

magik@...

Re: 911:: Ben & Jerrys cop killer TRUTH

.. IF you do the research and decide

to

> boycott - i respect that!

>

> thanks all

>