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>>if Isocort does not put how much Cortisol on the bottle

how do we know it's 2.5 mg?<<

A doctor can tell you, from the company, how much Cortisol is in it. We

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My ND called them and asked specifically. I think the ycan't put it on the label, or else it would be considered a pharmaceutical.

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Thanks. That's good to know. I was just curious. I was also wondering if Isocort does not put how much cortisol on the bottle how do we know it's 2.5 mg?

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It's helping me to lose. Not to mention I am able to be more physical than prior... So I am actually moving around daily... this will always help you lose weight!!! Be well, PamelaRobin wrote: Oh no, I hope I don't gain weight. I do not need to put on weight but to loose it.Robin> >> > Can Isocort cause weight gain?> > > > Robin> >>

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I take 4 w/my breakfast than 2 @ 4 hours after that then 2 at 4 hours after that. Totalling 8... I am planning to begin 40 min. walks next week. I can't even believe that I can actually plan that or have the week I had last week. I actually did something every day... that is HUGE for me. the last 5 years has been virtually housebound for me. any other questions ask away... PamelaRobin wrote: That's good news, Pamela! How much and when do you take your Isocort, may I ask?Robin> > >> > > Can Isocort cause weight gain?> > > > > > Robin> > >> >> > > > > > >

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No problem... Robin wrote: Never mind about how much and when you take it. I just read your other post stating it. I didn't read down before I posted. Sorry.Robin-- In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS , PAMELA wrote:>> It's helping me to lose. Not to mention I am able to be more physical than prior... So I am actually moving around daily... this will always help you lose weight!!!> > Be well, > > Pamela> > Robin wrote:> Oh no, I hope I don't gain weight. I do not need to put on weight > but to loose it.> > Robin> > > > >> > > Can Isocort cause weight gain?> > > > > > Robin> > >> >> > > >

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Pamela,

This is AWESOME!!!! How long did it take for the Isocort to kick in? How is your anxiety?

Liz

I take 4 w/my breakfast than 2 @ 4 hours after that then 2 at 4 hours after that. Totalling 8...

I am planning to begin 40 min. walks next week.

I can't even believe that I can actually plan that or have the week I had last week. I actually did something every day... that is HUGE for me. the last 5 years has been virtually housebound for me.

any other questions ask away...

Pamela

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Anxiety is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay down... I have been on it for 2 weeks now...to the day... ; )beth wrote: Pamela, This is AWESOME!!!! How long did it take for the Isocort to kick in? How is your anxiety? Liz I take 4 w/my breakfast than 2 @ 4 hours after that then 2 at 4 hours after that. Totalling 8... I am planning to begin 40 min. walks next week. I can't even believe that I can actually plan that or have the week I had last week. I actually did something every day... that is HUGE for me. the last 5 years has been virtually housebound for me. any other questions ask away... Pamela

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You give me hope, Pamela!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Did it happen right away or take a few days? :)

Anxiety is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay down... I have been on it for 2 weeks now...to the day... ; )beth wrote:

Pamela,

This is AWESOME!!!! How long did it take for the Isocort to kick in? How is your anxiety?

Liz

I take 4 w/my breakfast than 2 @ 4 hours after that then 2 at 4 hours after that. Totalling 8...

I am planning to begin 40 min. walks next week.

I can't even believe that I can actually plan that or have the week I had last week. I actually did something every day... that is HUGE for me. the last 5 years has been virtually housebound for me.

any other questions ask away...

Pamela

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What made you decide to try and do this yourself without a doc? I am scared to death of trying it by myself because of heart palps--the last few days my blood pressure has been really up and I feel awful! I'm just afraid that taking anything will send me over the edge.

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any other questions ask away...

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a,

I'm doing Cortef without a dr. because all the drs around here don't know nothin!!! (I got this script from a dr who will give me whatever I want) I'm going to work with an ND possibly but even she doesn't really know.

Did you have heart stuff on the adrenal support? Or do you have heart stuff and are afraid because of that. I'm thinking that the adrenal support can only help as the blood pressure could be from tired adrenals? Just my thinking.

Liz

From: NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS [mailto:NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS ] On Behalf Of kayhill93Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 4:11 PMTo: NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS Subject: Re: Re: Isocort & weight gain?

What made you decide to try and do this yourself without a doc? I am scared to death of trying it by myself because of heart palps--the last few days my blood pressure has been really up and I feel awful! I'm just afraid that taking anything will send me over the edge.

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any other questions ask away...

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I am thinking it's because of adrenals too because normally I have really low blood pressure 100-110/ 60-75. It's been as low as the high 80s over the low 70s before. And now my bottomnumber is getting over 100 and it's kind of scary. Today I took some magnesium and a good mult-vitamin that another doc gave to me and I actually felt better although I didn't take my blood pressure after feeling better. Then this afternoon the nervousness/tension came again and wouldn't let up so I took another mag and vit when I ate and I feel more calm. Don't know if it's the mag or the b vitamins in the multivitamin though that's helping or a combination of the two.

What is an ND?

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I'm doing Cortef without a dr. because all the drs around here don't know nothin!!! (I got this script from a dr who will give me whatever I want) I'm going to work with an ND possibly but even she doesn't really know.

Did you have heart stuff on the adrenal support? Or do you have heart stuff and are afraid because of that. I'm thinking that the adrenal support can only help as the blood pressure could be from tired adrenals? Just my thinking.

Liz

From: NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS [mailto:NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS ] On Behalf Of kayhill93Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 4:11 PMTo: NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS Subject: Re: Re: Isocort & weight gain?

What made you decide to try and do this yourself without a doc? I am scared to death of trying it by myself because of heart palps--the last few days my blood pressure has been really up and I feel awful! I'm just afraid that taking anything will send me over the edge.

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any other questions ask away...

Pamela

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It took a few days. But we are talking major stress, anxiety, depression!!! You must also be aware of the things that are causing you anxiety and make a conscience effort to take deep breaths, relax and be here right now, not worry about what's next, what if, etc. etc. it becomes a bad habit as we are unable to do the things we could before... if you are anything like me you are an A type personality... when you are unable to do all the things you could, it doesn't mean you automatically change. Everything does happen for a reason. It seems it is time for many of us to learn patience and love for ourselves all around... once we do it cannot help but be relayed to everyone around us... ; ) Mind you it took me a good 5 years to get to this place... and it is still daily work. Having my adrenals back just equips me with more ability to follow thru with the promise to myself.

; ) Thinking of you, Pamelabeth wrote: You give me hope, Pamela!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Did it happen right away or take a few days? :) Anxiety is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay down... I have been on it for 2 weeks now...to the day... ; )beth wrote: Pamela, This is AWESOME!!!! How long did it take for the Isocort to kick in? How is your anxiety? Liz I take 4 w/my breakfast than 2 @ 4 hours after that then 2 at 4 hours after that. Totalling 8... I am planning to begin 40 min. walks next week. I can't even believe that I can actually plan that or have the week I had last week. I actually did something every day... that is HUGE for me. the last 5 years has been virtually housebound for me. any other questions ask away... Pamela

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Hmmmmmm. I wish Magnesium calmed me down.I hate this constant tension. I have it 24/7.I am sooooooooooo hoping the adrenal support and thyroid are going to stop it once and for all.

An ND is Naturopathic Dr. They can prescribe bio identicals :) And they are holistic but have the same kind of education as an MD. (I think).

Liz

From: NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS [mailto:NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS ] On Behalf Of kayhill93Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:31 PMTo: NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS Subject: Re: Re: Isocort & weight gain?

I am thinking it's because of adrenals too because normally I have really low blood pressure 100-110/ 60-75. It's been as low as the high 80s over the low 70s before. And now my bottomnumber is getting over 100 and it's kind of scary. Today I took some magnesium and a good mult-vitamin that another doc gave to me and I actually felt better although I didn't take my blood pressure after feeling better. Then this afternoon the nervousness/tension came again and wouldn't let up so I took another mag and vit when I ate and I feel more calm. Don't know if it's the mag or the b vitamins in the multivitamin though that's helping or a combination of the two.

What is an ND?

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a,

I'm doing Cortef without a dr. because all the drs around here don't know nothin!!! (I got this script from a dr who will give me whatever I want) I'm going to work with an ND possibly but even she doesn't really know.

Did you have heart stuff on the adrenal support? Or do you have heart stuff and are afraid because of that. I'm thinking that the adrenal support can only help as the blood pressure could be from tired adrenals? Just my thinking.

Liz

From: NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS [mailto:NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS ] On Behalf Of kayhill93Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 4:11 PMTo: NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS Subject: Re: Re: Isocort & weight gain?

What made you decide to try and do this yourself without a doc? I am scared to death of trying it by myself because of heart palps--the last few days my blood pressure has been really up and I feel awful! I'm just afraid that taking anything will send me over the edge.

a

any other questions ask away...

Pamela

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I too have had the blood pressure and body temp of a dead person for years now... never realized it was thryoid/adrenal related. I curious to see if there will be a difference with the adrenals being adressed and switching to armour!!! (I can't wait)!!! Pamelakayhill93 wrote: I am thinking it's because of adrenals too because normally I have really low blood pressure 100-110/ 60-75. It's been as low as the high 80s over the low 70s before. And now my bottomnumber is getting over 100 and it's kind of scary. Today I took some magnesium and a good mult-vitamin that another doc gave to me and I actually felt better although I didn't

take my blood pressure after feeling better. Then this afternoon the nervousness/tension came again and wouldn't let up so I took another mag and vit when I ate and I feel more calm. Don't know if it's the mag or the b vitamins in the multivitamin though that's helping or a combination of the two. What is an ND? a RE: Re: Isocort & weight gain? a, I'm doing Cortef without a dr. because all the drs around here don't know nothin!!! (I got this script from a dr who will give me whatever I want) I'm going to work with an ND possibly but even she doesn't really know. Did you have heart stuff on the adrenal support? Or do you have heart stuff and are afraid because of that. I'm thinking that the adrenal support can only help as the blood pressure could be from tired adrenals? Just my thinking. Liz From: NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS [mailto:NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS ] On Behalf Of kayhill93Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 4:11 PMTo:

NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS Subject: Re: Re: Isocort & weight gain? What made you decide to try and do this yourself without a doc? I am scared to death of trying it by myself because of heart palps--the last few days my blood pressure has been really up and I feel awful! I'm just afraid that taking anything will send me over the edge. a any other questions ask away... Pamela

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Ahhhhhhhh, yes, that what if thinking. I know I have been driving myself and everyone around me crazy!!! I'm also hoping though, that some of my OCD stuff is related to thyroid/adrenal problems. So if I can fix one, it will help the other.

You go, girl!!! I'm rooting for you!!!

Liz

It took a few days. But we are talking major stress, anxiety, depression!!! You must also be aware of the things that are causing you anxiety and make a conscience effort to take deep breaths, relax and be here right now, not worry about what's next, what if, etc. etc. it becomes a bad habit as we are unable to do the things we could before... if you are anything like me you are an A type personality... when you are unable to do all the things you could, it doesn't mean you automatically change. Everything does happen for a reason. It seems it is time for many of us to learn patience and love for ourselves all around... once we do it cannot help but be relayed to everyone around us... ; )

Mind you it took me a good 5 years to get to this place... and it is still daily work. Having my adrenals back just equips me with more ability to follow thru with the promise to myself. & nb! sp; ; )

Thinking of you,

Pamelabeth wrote:

You give me hope, Pamela!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Did it happen right away or take a few days? :)

Anxiety is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay down... I have been on it for 2 weeks now...to the day... ; )beth wrote:

Pamela,

This is AWESOME!!!! How long did it take for the Isocort to kick in? How is your anxiety?

Liz

I take 4 w/my breakfast than 2 @ 4 hours after that then 2 at 4 hours after that. Totalling 8...

I am planning to begin 40 min. walks next week.

I can't even believe that I can actually plan that or have the week I had last week. I actually did something every day... that is HUGE for me. the last 5 years has been virtually housebound for me.

any other questions ask away...

Pamela

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Well strangley enough... a doctor had me doing all of this. It was a few years ago. I became overwhelmed with caring for my disabled son and forgot all about it and moved and had to get a new doc etc. etc. etc. I could not see change because there was no rest involved. You can take the pills all day long, but if you don't give your body a chance to heal it won't... Therefore I was trying to make a comeback from giving birth, my son dying and being brought back to life, my being misdiagnosed and not knowing I had Hashimoto's until I was almost dead, a car accident that left me with permantent back and neck damage and premature oestoarthritis, and the list goes on. I kept going into adrenal shock again and again, they thought I had strokes heart attacks this that the other... finally I realized my last time of many in the ER after the doc said he was putting me on 2 weeks bedrest (I told him "I could not be, I had to take care of my son"

and he said "if I did not, I would not be around to take care of my son" I cried for 2 days and realized I had to let my son go with his Dad... So, after hitting rock bottom and trying this that the other and seeing every doc there is available (even being turned away from UCLA's pain clinic for having "too many medical problems")) I came upon a letter that was finally returned from 2 or 3 years ago... The doc that had me do the saliva test for my adrenals and told me they were shot also told me about a dentist as I was testing very positive for mercury poisoning... I went and had them removed... was I cured... ??? Yes! in a way... One of the layers of overwhelming medical problems was removed and gave me the strength to continue my many years of searching which had come to a halt. Then I find - www.stopthethyroidmadness.com, the rest is history in the

making... I apologize for the book of an answer... but I just always imagine a girl like me out there, desperate and at the end of her rope finding this letter and seeing there is hope!!! So if i repeat it every now and again, it is just "in case"... it is also a great reminder to me of where I was just a couple of weeks ago (agoraphobic, weak, ready to give up, unable to think straight... or see straight for that fact..., etc....) where I had been for years, compared to where I am now!!! "What a difference a day makes"... I, once again am soooooo lucky to be here... so lucky to find you and am so lucky to have a 10th of my life back!!! Because up until now without my son my quality of life was 0 and quickly deteriorating... I may not have him with me and I may not be able to while he is still young (as he takes much physical strength), but the thought that I will be able

to finally spend some time with him and be there for him as a mother should makes me the most thankful person in the world that I have found generous, caring, giving, open hearted people like I have here and at stopthethyroidmadness.com. Thank you again. Be well, Pamelakayhill93 wrote: What made you decide to try and do this yourself without a doc? I am scared to death of trying it by myself because of heart palps--the last few days my blood pressure has been really up and I feel awful! I'm just afraid that taking anything will send me over the edge. a any other questions ask away... Pamela

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Do you have a good doctor??? Are these heart palps new to you??? What thyroid meds are you taking??? kayhill93 wrote: What made you decide to try and do this yourself without a doc? I am scared to death of trying it by myself because of heart palps--the last few days my blood pressure has been really up and I feel awful! I'm just afraid that taking anything will send me over the edge. a any other questions ask away... Pamela

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Pamela what a heart wrenching story you have. I am SO sorry you had to

go through all you have been to get here, but I am glad you found us!

People like you are what keeps me here on these forums trying to help

others. There is SO much need for real answers when you are so confused

as adrenal fatigue leaves you and so brain dead as the low thyroid

leaves you it is so hard to know what to try and who to listen to. I

come from a family of mainstream medical nurses! You would not believe

all the lectures I got when my BP got so high I was a stroke waiting to

happen,. But till then all they had to offer was that I should get a

real job and I wouldn't be so fat & lazy. YUP from my family. After I

lost all my self respect I found hope and life again on Internet forums

that saved MY life. So I am passing it on. I am still fat and lazy but I

have my own business now, no thanks to anyone of my family, and I can

move without scrambling for air, and I have my pets and my computer

night life, which is enough for me now! I hope all of us get to be as

happy a I am now in the near future and can live our lives to the

fullest extent.

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Yes... you guys have become somewhat of an adopted family for me as my Mother and brother decided that I abandoned my son and stopped speaking to me... This is after my mother stayed with me 6 mo. because I could not even raise my hand to brush my teeth, I was losing my eyesite and all my hair was falling out etc.when they misdiagnosed my Hashimoto's... then again for a bed wridden year (after the car accident)... Then again because the adrenal shock attacks happened unannounced and for years... NO ONE knew what it was!!! ALL OF THOSE DOCTORS WHO SAW ME... 10 + times!!! But back to what I was saying. They don't speak to me and I carried that around and cried for a long time about it, beating myself up and feeling guilty for not being able to care for my son... I felt worthless. But, it's o.k. I am strong, I have always taken care of myself and I need to be

strong for my son. I am finally finding out how important boundaries are for people like us... We must protect ourselves from those not looking out for our best intererest so that we can save our energy FOR OUR BEST INTEREST ( MY SON) (b.t.w. Everytime I see my little one, it is like a day has not passed!!! He knows how much I love him... and it shows so much that people comment "My that little boy loves you sooooo much"!!!) k, tearing up... must go!!! I am eternally grateful!!! Dont' stop!!! Pamela wrote: Pamela what a heart wrenching story you have. I am SO sorry you had to go through all you have been

to get here, but I am glad you found us! People like you are what keeps me here on these forums trying to help others. There is SO much need for real answers when you are so confused as adrenal fatigue leaves you and so brain dead as the low thyroid leaves you it is so hard to know what to try and who to listen to. I come from a family of mainstream medical nurses! You would not believe all the lectures I got when my BP got so high I was a stroke waiting to happen,. But till then all they had to offer was that I should get a real job and I wouldn't be so fat & lazy. YUP from my family. After I lost all my self respect I found hope and life again on Internet forums that saved MY life. So I am passing it on. I am still fat and lazy but I have my own business now, no thanks to anyone of my family, and I can move without scrambling for air, and I have my pets and my computer night life, which is enough for me now! I hope all

of us get to be as happy a I am now in the near future and can live our lives to the fullest extent.-- Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WVMy Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations The BEST thyroid website! http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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Pamela, your life thus far has been lots harder than it should have

been. That's true for many of us, thanks to doctors who don't doctor.

I'm glad that you're on your way to a better life, and have that

precious boy to love.

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PAMELA wrote:

> Yes... you guys have become somewhat of an adopted family for me as my

> Mother and brother decided that I abandoned my son and stopped

> speaking to me... This is after my mother stayed with me 6 mo.

> because I could not even raise my hand to brush my teeth, I was losing

> my eyesite and all my hair was falling out etc.when they misdiagnosed

> my Hashimoto's... then again for a bed wridden year (after the car

> accident)... Then again because the adrenal shock attacks happened

> unannounced and for years... NO ONE knew what it was!!! ALL OF

> THOSE DOCTORS WHO SAW ME... _10 + times!!!_

>

> But back to what I was saying. They don't speak to me and I carried

> that around and cried for a long time about it, beating myself up and

> feeling guilty for not being able to care for my son... I felt

> worthless. But, it's o.k. I am strong, I have always taken care of

> myself and I need to be strong for my son. I am finally finding out

> how important boundaries are for people like us... We must protect

> ourselves from those not looking out for our best intererest so that

> we can save our energy FOR OUR BEST INTEREST ( MY SON) (b.t.w.

> Everytime I see my little one, it is like a day has not passed!!! He

> knows how much I love him... and it shows so much that people comment

> " My that little boy loves you sooooo much " !!!) k, tearing up... must

> go!!!

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Yes... I am truely lucky and blessed and in love!!! Deborah Jacques wrote: Pamela, your life thus far has been lots harder than it should have been. That's true for many of us, thanks to doctors who don't doctor. I'm glad that you're on your way to a better life, and have that precious boy to love.DeborahPAMELA wrote:> Yes... you guys have become somewhat of an adopted family for me as my > Mother and brother decided that I abandoned my son and stopped > speaking to me... This is after my mother stayed with me 6 mo. > because I could not even raise my hand to brush my teeth, I was losing > my eyesite and all my hair was falling out etc.when they misdiagnosed

> my Hashimoto's... then again for a bed wridden year (after the car > accident)... Then again because the adrenal shock attacks happened > unannounced and for years... NO ONE knew what it was!!! ALL OF > THOSE DOCTORS WHO SAW ME... _10 + times!!!_ > > But back to what I was saying. They don't speak to me and I carried > that around and cried for a long time about it, beating myself up and > feeling guilty for not being able to care for my son... I felt > worthless. But, it's o.k. I am strong, I have always taken care of > myself and I need to be strong for my son. I am finally finding out > how important boundaries are for people like us... We must protect > ourselves from those not looking out for our best intererest so that > we can save our energy FOR OUR BEST INTEREST ( MY SON) (b.t.w. > Everytime I see

my little one, it is like a day has not passed!!! He > knows how much I love him... and it shows so much that people comment > "My that little boy loves you sooooo much"!!!) k, tearing up... must > go!!!

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No, I don't have a good doc. I have a new one I'm going to try out on the 3rd of april which is only a week away and I can't waitto get there. I began having them 5 or6 years ago when my pcp supposedly over dosed me on synthroid--eventually the major ones subsided over about 1 1/2 years, but I would still get the little flutter thing going. About a year ago when I found a doc that would give me my thyroid med back (armour) they all went away until about a month and a half ago when I couldn't sleep and I got up the next morning to take my morning dose (2 1/2 grains) and I felt weak, my heart was racing and I was shaking--Oh yeah, and it's really hard to breathe during all of this --my mouth dries out and when it stops I am running to the bathroom to pee every few minutes. And then I'm exhausted, but can't sleep.

As of right now, I'm not taking my armour.

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Do you have a good doctor???

Are these heart palps new to you???

What thyroid meds are you taking???

kayhill93 wrote:

What made you decide to try and do this yourself without a doc? I am scared to death of trying it by myself because of heart palps--the last few days my blood pressure has been really up and I feel awful! I'm just afraid that taking anything will send me over the edge.

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any other questions ask away...

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>>So, which

adrenal support is the best? I've heard about the

Isocort,hyrdrocortisone, Cortisol, and it seems like there are others

that have been mentioned.<<

My preference is Hydrocortisone. Cortisol is the natural hormone in the

body and though HC is synthetic it exactly matches the Cortisol in the

body. Cortef is brand name HC and Isocort is an adrenal glandular that

contains Cortisol and other adrenal hormones as well as echinacea.

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