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---I went to Dr. Huang in Denver and i dont think she did them En

Bloc but she did remove the capsule, she actually said i had a lot

of scar tissue to remove. I felt better immediately, was so much

better then implant surgery. My fatigue was gone within a week or

two and most of my other symptoms were gone within a month. I still

have a few problems but overall i am much better. I was a small C

with implants and back to an A. I did loose some size, probably

because of all the scar tissue, but they dont look bad at all. I

was actually really suprised at how good they turned out. Now that

wasnt right away, it took a good 2 months for their shape to return

to normal. You prob. wont need a lift if you were a C with implants

and only had them 3 ish years. Have you found a doctor yet? I dont

know the doctors they recommened for your area but im sure there is

someone.

Aubrey

In , michael trumbo

<iceman18152000@y...> wrote:

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> Aubrey

> I live in Virginia, around yorktown area. Did you have

the " En bloc " procedure? A few people have told me about it and its

where they take the implant and and the capsule " scar tissue " out. I

was told that unless I have this removed I could still have the

symptoms after. How fast was your recovery time and how painfull was

it for you? Im only a C now but before I was an A, Im thinking that

I might need a lift also but Im not sure as of now. I have had my

implants in for 3 1/2 years.

> Thank you

>

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Welcome ! . . .

The en bloc procedure is where the " scar tissue "

capsule is removed with the implant still inside.

That's to prevent any fluids contained by the capsule

from spilling into your chest cavity. Actually the

capsule is not a scar because it has a blood supply.

This blood supply helps spread toxins released from

the implant throughout the body. It's been called a

scar tissue capsule for years though.

A total capsulectomy is where the complete capsule is

removed - either en bloc, or in pieces.

Obviously en bloc is preferable! . . . If a woman is

symptomatic, the implant is old, or silicone, we

consider the en bloc very important.

Unfortunately most plastic surgeons don't take this

seriously. That's why we have a relatively short list

of recommended doctors!

Hugs an prayers,

Rogene

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I'm looking for a doctor in my area! Does anyone know of a good

doctor in Virginia, land, North Carolina? All of these areas are

very close to me. I have to have these implants removed. I have read

a few of your stories and it sounds like me. Over the past year I

have changed everything from my lotion to my laundry soap. I have

had punch biopsy done to both my breast. I have had skin patch

testing to see what in my home might be causing this. I have been on

more pills and creams in this past year then in my 23years put

together. All this medication has caused weight gain(very hard for

me to deal with)I didn't think after 19 different doctors told me it

wasn't my implants that it really could be them. I read Jenna's

story and I've been through everything she said. I had the doctor

through the military come into the room and tell me my implants had

nothing to do with my symptoms. He them continued to tell me that

the time line wasn't right.If it was my implants I would have had

problems before now. I've had them just over three years. So he said

he would take them out if that's what I wanted but that he would bet

a pay check it wouldn't make me better. So my husband and I left and

I'll never go back to him. I don't want someone with that bed side

manner to work on me. I just know if I have them taken out the

military will pay since it's medical but I don't know if I'll get

that same treatment if I go elsewhere. There is plenty of military

medical centers here where I live I just don't know if they would be

as good as another. I know they are doctors also but this is my body

and I have to live with the outcome for the rest of my life. I'm

only 23yrs so I hope that's a long time.I'm just scared to take that

first step. My husband is here holding my hand through it all and

he'll be here no matter what the outcome is so that's a good

feeling. I'm not worried about what he'll think I'm more worried

about how I'll take it all. He'll tell me I'm beautiful in the end

no matter what but it's when I look in the mirror.Thank you all so

much for all your stories and comments. You've made this whole thing

a lot less lonely for me.

Thank you,

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As young as you are, you probably won't need a lift.

BUT the only person who can tell you that is the

doctor. He/she will know when they examine you if your

skin is elastic enough to go back in shape. Wearing a

snug, but comfortable sports bra 24/7 until healing is

well underway will help the internal scar tissue

support you.

Regardless, you should not be deformed or disfigured

in any way. You will have thin scars that fade to

almost invisible over time.

Right after surgery, you may look a little weird . . .

that's to be expected. But you will start " fluffing "

in a few weeks. Almost every women here has been

satisified with how they look after explant.

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

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This is our list of doctors

http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/wFBgQ5iTTfhout9GraY9u3vNz2dd7g-V2-b3tLXZBvmCZfkBQtM\

PZhUS9YvCqgPd8NSrx8GV6y1z-5KUFW62/Dr.%20List%20for%20proper%20explant

If the link doesn't work, go to the bottom of this

message where it says " Saline Support " . . . click on

it . . . then click on " Files " in the left hand

column. Go down the list to " Recommended Doctors for

Proper explant " . . .

After you check the doctors, you may want to ask if

anyone has used those doctors and what they thought of

them. . .

It blows me away that doctors can be so blind to

problems caused by breast implants! . . . I guess

that, if the FDA says it's safe, they accept it

without question! . . . Well, THEY ARE ALL WRONG!

If you'd like to tell the FDA about your experience,

I'd suggest contacting Mrs. Leonard

<nml@...>, or you can call her at 800

638-2041 ext 141. The FDA is under the false

assumption that saline implants are safe!

Also, be sure to fill out a MedWatch report! . . . did

you receive a link when you joined ? If

not, I can send you one.

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

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Rogene - I don't think I filled out a Medwatch report, could you send

one to me, too!

Thanks,

Sis (auntsisnj@...)

>

> ,

>

> This is our list of doctors

> http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/wFBgQ5iTTfhout9GraY9u3vNz2dd7g-V2-

b3tLXZBvmCZfkBQtMPZhUS9YvCqgPd8NSrx8GV6y1z-5KUFW62/Dr.%20List%20for%

20proper%20explant

>

> If the link doesn't work, go to the bottom of this

> message where it says " Saline Support " . . . click on

> it . . . then click on " Files " in the left hand

> column. Go down the list to " Recommended Doctors for

> Proper explant " . . .

>

> After you check the doctors, you may want to ask if

> anyone has used those doctors and what they thought of

> them. . .

>

> It blows me away that doctors can be so blind to

> problems caused by breast implants! . . . I guess

> that, if the FDA says it's safe, they accept it

> without question! . . . Well, THEY ARE ALL WRONG!

>

> If you'd like to tell the FDA about your experience,

> I'd suggest contacting Mrs. Leonard

> <nml@c...>, or you can call her at 800

> 638-2041 ext 141. The FDA is under the false

> assumption that saline implants are safe!

>

> Also, be sure to fill out a MedWatch report! . . . did

> you receive a link when you joined ? If

> not, I can send you one.

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>

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Dr. Feng is in cleveland ohio. THat isnt really far away. I live

in Illinois and I travelled to have her do the surgery. She has

done many many explants and will do the procedure right. I would

have alot more faith in her than someone I know nothing about. You

are right not to go back to that other doctor. Believe me, he

wouldn't do the job right and then you might not get well. Take

heart, we have all been in your shoes. By the way, I had a doctor

tell me he wanted to do six punch biopsies on my vaginal orifice and

I told him no way. I had vulvadynia but he had to make sure it

wasn't something else (so he said). Well I found out about what to

do somewhere else and also researched it on my own. I didn't have

the signs of vulvar cancer so I stood firm. I am now virtually free

of vulvar discomfort and the biopsies would have been a painful

waste of time. I think getting those implants out will really help

considerably and so will detoxing afterward. I basically feel that

most doctors don't know what they are talking about and we need to

take charge of our own health. Many of us have gotten well by

researching ways to detox our bodies and strengthen our immune

systems without doctors. My husband died due to medical

malpractice. I place far more confidence in God and His leading me

to the right things to get well.

Hugs,

kathy

--- In , " Mike " <iceman18152000@y...>

wrote:

>

> I'm looking for a doctor in my area! Does anyone know of a good

> doctor in Virginia, land, North Carolina? All of these areas

are

> very close to me. I have to have these implants removed. I have

read

> a few of your stories and it sounds like me. Over the past year I

> have changed everything from my lotion to my laundry soap. I have

> had punch biopsy done to both my breast. I have had skin patch

> testing to see what in my home might be causing this. I have been

on

> more pills and creams in this past year then in my 23years put

> together. All this medication has caused weight gain(very hard for

> me to deal with)I didn't think after 19 different doctors told me

it

> wasn't my implants that it really could be them. I read Jenna's

> story and I've been through everything she said. I had the doctor

> through the military come into the room and tell me my implants

had

> nothing to do with my symptoms. He them continued to tell me that

> the time line wasn't right.If it was my implants I would have had

> problems before now. I've had them just over three years. So he

said

> he would take them out if that's what I wanted but that he would

bet

> a pay check it wouldn't make me better. So my husband and I left

and

> I'll never go back to him. I don't want someone with that bed side

> manner to work on me. I just know if I have them taken out the

> military will pay since it's medical but I don't know if I'll get

> that same treatment if I go elsewhere. There is plenty of military

> medical centers here where I live I just don't know if they would

be

> as good as another. I know they are doctors also but this is my

body

> and I have to live with the outcome for the rest of my life. I'm

> only 23yrs so I hope that's a long time.I'm just scared to take

that

> first step. My husband is here holding my hand through it all and

> he'll be here no matter what the outcome is so that's a good

> feeling. I'm not worried about what he'll think I'm more worried

> about how I'll take it all. He'll tell me I'm beautiful in the end

> no matter what but it's when I look in the mirror.Thank you all so

> much for all your stories and comments. You've made this whole

thing

> a lot less lonely for me.

> Thank you,

>

>

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HI, I don't know if this will help with your implants still in, but

I have had some really good results using Miracle 2 products. They

can help with rashes,etc. You can buy the soap and the

neutralizer. YOu can bathe in it, use it as shampoo, use it as a

detox bath, you can use the neutralizer internally as it is very

alkalinizing and it will help with all kinds of skin conditions. I

bought mine at appleadayandbeyond but you can research it anywhere.

You can also use the same products to clean virtually anything with

absolutely no chemicals. I think it would be worth buying and using

exclusively until surgery. It won't hurt you, it will help you

detox, and it may very well help. Personally I think it will help

but you won't see as much improvement as you could until you get

those implants out. I definitley think you should be taking oil of

oregano and/or olive leaf extract too. Your body is toxic.

Hugs, kathy

-- In , " Mike " <iceman18152000@y...>

wrote:

>

> I'm going to look into those doctors you all have been telling me

> about. I have an appointment in Bethesda on 11/2. I'm going to see

> how I feel with the doctors there and how they react to what I

want

> done. I at least know there it will all be covered under my

> insurance. If I go outside somewhere I might have to pay out of

> pocket. I did have a couple other questions before I see the

doctor.

> First I have heard a lot about " en bloc " and making sure to

> everything is cleaned out. My big problem right now is that my

> implant is behind the muscle. Will that be harder to get

everything

> out of there in one piece? If the doctor can't get it out in one

> piece will it hurt me to have the implant taken out and then the

> doctor can clean the scar tissue out? I just don't know enough

about

> this and if I want the doctor to do it right and my way then I

need

> to know what way I want it done! Also I have a really bad rash so

my

> nipples are almost untouchable. That is where my first scar is but

> if the rash is to bad to go back through the nipple would it hurt

to

> just have it taken out from under my breast? My last doctor didn't

> want to cut over the rash because of bacteria and it would have a

> bigger chance of getting infected that way. My rash is not going

to

> go away or get better until I get these out so there is no way I

can

> wait it out. I have to have the operation with the rash just like

it

> is. I do have to say that having a head to toe rash for just over

10

> month is driving me crazy! That is just one of the many unpleasent

> signs I have that something in my baody is just not right. The

other

> problem is that my nipples are not very large so I'm thinking

taking

> the implant and scar tissue out through that little cut might not

> work very well even if the doctor wants to cut over the rash! I

just

> wanted some outside opinion of the removal. Now the weight issue

> I've been reading about..... Is there hope that after the implants

> come out I'll be able to get rid of some weight? Over the past 10

> months I've added about 20 pounds. No matter what I do it won't

come

> off. I've never been over weight or even chunky but lately with

the

> medication I think about a salad and I gain a pound. HELP!!!

> Thanks a Bunch!

>

>

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