Guest guest Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 I do agree it's important to take breaks from any and everything. Just makes sense to me. > > Hello, > > With regard to MMS, no one should stay on it " for life. " No matter what drug, food, treatment, exercise, you take, you need to change it from time to time because you will inevitably build up a tolerance to it. > > At that point, the treatment will stop working. If it appears to work, it is only by means of the placebo effect. > > That's the problem with any drug or treatment regime - you must take rests from it from time to time. See: > http://www.rense.com/general69/glax.htm > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 ,I respectfully disagree with your statement regarding lifers and MMS. Unless when you say 'change it from time to time' that you mean for just a week.I seriously doubt that MMS will stop working as it is a chemical our bodies produce naturally. While I would agree with you to a certain degree regarding man made drugs, I do not agree with your statement " No matter what drug, food, treatment, exercise, you take you need to change it from time to time because you will inevitably build up a tolerance to it. " Are you saying that a person should stop taking vitamin D and let their levels plummet because they will build up a tolerance? What about having an orange a day? Should one stop their intake of vitamin C? If you buy into the 'placebo' effect, it makes me wonder how long you've been fighting this illness and how many doctors you've seen? Most long-term Lymies know their bodies very well and can tell if something is working or not. You'll have to excuse me, but that word gets my dander up big time - not only for me but for my children also. My son has neuro Lyme, we didn't know this when he was young (I didn't know a whole lot then and made choices I wouldn't today). Anyway, when he was 5 our doctor prescribed Ritalin. I cannot remember what we told our son, but it was probably something to the effect that it would help him. Well, within 30 minutes he was curled up in a ball on my lap screaming that his head was going to explode and that he wanted to die. We had to have complete silence in the house for 5 hours. Placebo effect - I think not! Later our doctor put him on zoloft (an SSRI). The very next morning my son awoke singing! (a first in his anxious, unhappy life). The doc said it had to be the placebo effect because antidepressants don't work that fast. Within a week the drug stopped helping. Several years later, we had another negative effect with a drug similar to Ritalin and another positive effect to Gabbapentin. About a year ago, our then teenage son decided to drink an energy drink without having in eaten in several hours. He was hoping for more energy, what he got was a trip to the emergency room due to massive panic and nerves. Placebo effect? NOT. OK, I'll get off my soap box. I think the so called 'placebo effect' happens to a narrow group of people. It doesn't include children, nor does it include those who know their bodies.I believe the maintenance dose for MMS is not daily. The maintenance protocol is different than the disease fighting protocol. As you are probably aware, those spirochettes can be quite pesky little critters. There really isn't a way to be sure we've killed them all. I'd rather be safe than sorry. Best, Hello, With regard to MMS, no one should stay on it " for life. " No matter what drug, food, treatment, exercise, you take, you need to change it from time to time because you will inevitably build up a tolerance to it. At that point, the treatment will stop working. If it appears to work, it is only by means of the placebo effect. That's the problem with any drug or treatment regime - you must take rests from it from time to time. See: http://www.rense.com/general69/glax.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 , I can't speak for but I do believe the placebo effect is a very real, and often powerful, phenomenon. You really should research that one. And I don't necessarily think everything just " stops working " entirely... but there's plenty of evidence to suggest that after awhile the effects and possibly benefits of taking/doing something repeatedly will decrease dramatically. Your example of Vitamin D. I think that's a great example of a supplement that could be pulsed or taken a break from. (like in the summer) To begin with our bodies weren't designed to get Vitamin D from an artificial oral supplement (or any vitamin/mineral for that matter) Exercise is a great example to show proof of this as well. If you continue to do the exact same exercises day in and day out the law of diminishing returns takes effect. Your muscles adapt to the exercise and you begin to get less and less out of the workouts. The only real exception to this rule imo is water. : ) > > > ** > > > > > > Hello, > > > > With regard to MMS, no one should stay on it " for life. " No matter what > > drug, food, treatment, exercise, you take, you need to change it from time > > to time because you will inevitably build up a tolerance to it. > > > > At that point, the treatment will stop working. If it appears to work, it > > is only by means of the placebo effect. > > > > That's the problem with any drug or treatment regime - you must take rests > > from it from time to time. See: > > http://www.rense.com/general69/glax.htm > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 , I can't speak for but I do believe the placebo effect is a very real, and often powerful, phenomenon. You really should research that one. Ummmm, I've researched it extensively. Please don't read what I did not write. I admitted it happens. I don't believe it happens to children (unless they've been extensively hyped up) and I don't believe it happens to people who know their bodies well. I would imagine that for those that it does happen to - it cannot be maintained for years. This is a very, very slippery slope. How many Lyme victims have been told for years and years that since the doctor couldn't find anything wrong with them, that their illness was 'all in their head'. I realize this different than placebo, but there are similarities. The AMA is advising there doctors on more and more illness to basically blame the patient. To tell them it is in their head. Because 'it must be' as these demi-gods are unable to find anything wrong. LOL And I don't necessarily think everything just " stops working " entirely... but there's plenty of evidence to suggest that after awhile the effects and possibly benefits of taking/doing something repeatedly will decrease dramatically. Some things, maybe many things, not necessarily all things. Your example of Vitamin D. I think that's a great example of a supplement that could be pulsed or taken a break from. (like in the summer) My husband works out doors, he had his vit D level measured in August a few years ago. It was less than 30. To begin with our bodies weren't designed to get Vitamin D from an artificial oral supplement (or any vitamin/mineral for that matter) Agreed, one should get it from the sun or a full spectrum light, but if you don't I don't think that there is proof that if you are supplementing vit D that after several years your levels will stop working and that you should stop taking it in order to build them back up. Maybe there is proof. I just haven't seen it. Exercise is a great example to show proof of this as well. Yes, for intense workouts and training. If you continue to do the exact same exercises day in and day out the law of diminishing returns takes effect. Your muscles adapt to the exercise and you begin to get less and less out of the workouts. We were designed to walk. Walking is always effective. Look at society prior to 1900 or even 1930. The only real exception to this rule imo is water. Please don't read what I am not writing. I am not saying that everyone should stay on every thing 100% of their life. But what I read to imply was that large breaks of time are needed. I do not agree with this across the board on everything. Best, : ) > > > ** > > > > > > Hello, > > > > With regard to MMS, no one should stay on it " for life. " No matter what > > drug, food, treatment, exercise, you take, you need to change it from time > > to time because you will inevitably build up a tolerance to it. > > > > At that point, the treatment will stop working. If it appears to work, it > > is only by means of the placebo effect. > > > > That's the problem with any drug or treatment regime - you must take rests > > from it from time to time. See: > > http://www.rense.com/general69/glax.htm > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 > > ,> >> > I can't speak for but I do believe the placebo effect is a very> > real, and often powerful, phenomenon. You really should research that one.> > *Ummmm, I've researched it extensively. Please don't read what I did not> > write. I admitted it happens.You wrote: "If you buy into the 'placebo' effect, it makes me wonder how long you've been fighting this illness and how many doctors you've seen?"> > Your example of Vitamin D. I think that's a great example of a supplement> > that could be pulsed or taken a break from. (like in the summer) *My> > husband works out doors, he had his vit D level measured in August a few> > years ago. It was less than 30.*Vitamin D levels can be low for a number of reasons - not sure forcing supplementation is always the answer.Similar to the way high cholesterol levels can be a defense mechanism in the body. My mother's thyroid levels are low and she's been on synthroid for 20 years.The dirty little secret is that the adrenals, if exhausted, will force the thyroid to produce rT3 in an effort to SLOW DOWN the stimulating thyroid gland.There are plenty other examples.> > To begin with our bodies weren't designed to get Vitamin D from an> > artificial oral supplement (or any vitamin/mineral for that matter) *Agreed,> > one should get it from the sun or a full spectrum light, but if you don't I> > don't think that there is proof that if you are supplementing vit D that> > after several years your levels will stop working and that you should stop> > taking it in order to build them back up. Maybe there is proof. I just> > haven't seen it.*Maybe not in the case of Vit D - but the thyroid is a good example of gland atrophy.If you provide it with the hormones it has no job to do and will atrophy over time.Same goes for stomach acid, melatonin, etc etc> > The only real exception to this rule imo is water. *Please don't read what> > I am not writing. I am not saying that everyone should stay on every thing> > 100% of their life. But what I read to imply was that large> > breaks of time are needed. I do not agree with this across the board on> > everything. Best, *Please don't read what I am not writing. I didn't say you said everyone should stay on everything 100% of their life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 HI , You can not build up a tolerance to MMS... No pathogen is immune to it.. Drugs are far different than MMS, pathogens do become immune to them and they become useless... Jim > > Hello, > > With regard to MMS, no one should stay on it " for life. " No matter what drug, food, treatment, exercise, you take, you need to change it from time to time because you will inevitably build up a tolerance to it. > > At that point, the treatment will stop working. If it appears to work, it is only by means of the placebo effect. > > That's the problem with any drug or treatment regime - you must take rests from it from time to time. See: > http://www.rense.com/general69/glax.htm > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 If you become symptom free from Lyme some day and you are not taking a maintenance dose of MMS, be prepared for a powerful relapse as cysts forms remain in the body for years... MMS calls for a maintenance dose of 6 drops daily, 3 - 4 days weekly and this should be for life if you want to catch a relapse quickly or just remain disease free... Jim > > > > Hello, > > > > With regard to MMS, no one should stay on it " for life. " No matter what drug, food, treatment, exercise, you take, you need to change it from time to time because you will inevitably build up a tolerance to it. > > > > At that point, the treatment will stop working. If it appears to work, it is only by means of the placebo effect. > > > > That's the problem with any drug or treatment regime - you must take rests from it from time to time. See: > > http://www.rense.com/general69/glax.htm > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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