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Well, I guess I will tell my story also. I had surgery for endometriosis 7 times, had 9 pregnancies and three births. In my middle 30's they wanted to do exploritiory surgery for cancer. I made them promise to do a historectomy no matter what they found. I was tired of all the sergeries. They agreed and did find cancer but just a small amount along with tubes glued to the wall and lots of Endometriosis. I will let you know as will anyone in my family and friends, I DID WAKE UP AS A #1 BITCH. I have been on the best and strongest hormone made for I had every symtem ever recorded. I am on many drugs right now and this is one that no one dares mess with. I will fight tooth and nail for my sanity pill. As long as I have it I am very very pleased I had the hystorectomy.

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Hi Gael,

I, too, am thinking (still in the back of my mind) about

hysterectomy. I have fibroids, tilting uterus, and wish I did not

have to be concerned about hyperplasia. I do prefer not to have to

take P at all. I have heard what your Dr is telling you - that

simple uterus removal should not effect your orgasm. Each of my 2

sisters (one aged 59 and one 65) have had hysterectomies (one of

them had total - including ovaries) and they have had no change in

sexual experience they tell me.

These are intimate discussions but they are very important to all of

us and need to be discussed.

I go to my local " standard of care " Dr in late Aug for ultrasound to

check my ovarian cyst and have a physical. Depending on the

results, I may discuss the hysterectomy option with him (He is an

associate professor at a local medical school in OB/GYN and does a

lot of surgery) I do want to keep my ovaries.

Keep us posted on your decision.

>

> I have almost decided to have a hysterectomy for hyperplasia in

spite of

> VERY low E (subclinical, they call it, in spite of using Aerodial

1.5 and

> Oestragel .75 daily). D & C and hysteroscopy showed simple

hyperplasia and polyps,

> one of which was large. I have a LOT of trouble taking P, and

was using the

> Dr. G method of every three months, taking P vaginally at 100-200

mg. for 8-9

> days, which produced a VERY heavy bleed that lasted at least five

days. I

> have done this for the past three years. I am 55.

>

> The doctor who would be doing the hysterectomy is Dr. Dary Samimi,

who has

> developed a technique whereby he cuts NONE of the pelvic ligaments

and does not

> cut the vagina at all. It is done abdominally. I would be

having only my

> uterus removed. He claims there are no sexual side-effects from

this form of

> surgery. He says that since the bundle of nerves near the cervix

is not

> cut, and the ligaments are undisturbed, that orgasm will feel

exactly the same

> as before. I was especially interested in whether or not there

were

> contractions still felt with orgasm. He said the uterus does not

contract with

> orgasm, although I could SWEAR that mine does. I would hate to

lose that. :(

>

> I think he is the doctor who did Dr. G's hysterectomy, which shows

what a

> really small world it is, as I first went to him seven years ago

for very heavy

> peri periods.

>

> I guess my question is this - for those of you who have had

hysterectomy,

> did it change the way you perceived orgasm?

>

> I hope that isn't too intimate a question. I am scared to death,

and trying

> to make a good decision, and that one aspect of it has me worried.

>

> Thank you for any replies on this, anything you can tell me about

this

> surgery if you have had it, not just the sexual results.

>

> Gael

>

>

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

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Dear Gael and , I had a hysterectomy March 2006 after using WP. I knew I had fibroids and a somewhat thickened uterine lining before I started the WP and Wiley personally told me that her protocol would get rid of those. No such luck. As a matter of fact my ovary had become encrusted with a cyst that caused excessive bleeding for months. I have been very happy not to be concerned anymore about thick lining, fibroids, bleeding and worry about P. For a while I avoided all P after the hyst, but now I put a little P (olive oil compounded) on my breast at night for 14 days. As I mentioned earlier I also paint Lugol on my breast and take iodine. P and iodine work synergistically I have been told. I recently got rid of a breast cyst that way in one week. Since one of my ovaries was encrusted with a

bleeding cyst, my ovaries were removed as well as my uterus, which was filled with fibroids. I have had no problem with orgasms and additional use of T (testo) has helped my sexual desire. Note: I did have problems with hair loss after the hysterectomy and it took about 9 mos to correct that with iodine, armour and Evening Primrose oil. Now my hair is looking pretty healthy. So you may want to be aware of that. Hope this helps with your decision. Having a hyst is not something to think about lightly. I saw the Body show some months ago and saw how small the uterus really is, no bigger than a small hand's fist. That made me laugh and wonder why I was making such a big deal about losing another body part. Madeleen breast cancer in 1991, 1994, mastectomy one breast, hysterectomy 2006 campbellworley wrote: Hi Gael,I, too, am thinking (still in the back of my mind) about hysterectomy. I have fibroids, tilting uterus, and wish I did not have to be concerned about hyperplasia. I do prefer not to have to take P at all. I have heard what your Dr is telling you - that simple uterus removal should not effect your orgasm. Each of my 2 sisters (one aged 59 and one 65) have had hysterectomies (one of them had total - including ovaries) and they

have had no change in sexual experience they tell me.These are intimate discussions but they are very important to all of us and need to be discussed.I go to my local "standard of care" Dr in late Aug for ultrasound to check my ovarian cyst and have a physical. Depending on the results, I may discuss the hysterectomy option with him (He is an associate professor at a local medical school in OB/GYN and does a lot of surgery) I do want to keep my ovaries.Keep us posted on your decision.>> I have almost decided to have a hysterectomy for hyperplasia in spite of > VERY low E (subclinical, they call it, in spite of using Aerodial 1.5 and > Oestragel .75 daily). D & C and hysteroscopy showed simple hyperplasia and polyps, > one of

which was large. I have a LOT of trouble taking P, and was using the > Dr. G method of every three months, taking P vaginally at 100-200 mg. for 8-9 > days, which produced a VERY heavy bleed that lasted at least five days. I > have done this for the past three years. I am 55.> > The doctor who would be doing the hysterectomy is Dr. Dary Samimi, who has > developed a technique whereby he cuts NONE of the pelvic ligaments and does not > cut the vagina at all. It is done abdominally. I would be having only my > uterus removed. He claims there are no sexual side-effects from this form of > surgery. He says that since the bundle of nerves near the cervix is not > cut, and the ligaments are undisturbed, that orgasm will feel exactly the same > as before. I was especially interested in whether or not there were > contractions still felt with orgasm. He said

the uterus does not contract with > orgasm, although I could SWEAR that mine does. I would hate to lose that. :(> > I think he is the doctor who did Dr. G's hysterectomy, which shows what a > really small world it is, as I first went to him seven years ago for very heavy > peri periods.> > I guess my question is this - for those of you who have had hysterectomy, > did it change the way you perceived orgasm? > > I hope that isn't too intimate a question. I am scared to death, and trying > to make a good decision, and that one aspect of it has me worried.> > Thank you for any replies on this, anything you can tell me about this > surgery if you have had it, not just the sexual results.> > Gael> > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.>

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Have you ever had your E checked by saliva, or only blood tests? You

can have very high levels of estradiol in the tissues without it

showing up in standard blood tests because the veins have already

delivered their supply of free estrogen. I was shocked to find that I

had 10 X normal physiological level of estradiol in my saliva test

after using Oestrogel for a year. Sometimes a woman can have up to

100X normal physiological levels when using transdermal. When taking

oral estrogen, the liver deals with any excess, but when using

transdermal and by-passing the liver, the sex hormone binding

globulin is overwhelmed and the excess E (or P) is deposited in the

red cells.

This could be the reason you continue to have hyperplasia in spite of

showing low E in standard blood tests. (Disclaimer to Dana: I am not

a doctor; I just play one on the internet. Please do not misconstrue

this as medical advice and sue me in case I am wrong.)

I imagine that your Aerodial acts as a transdermal, too, only through

the nose tissues. I recently used some estrogen drops, and found that

I had the same symptoms I had when I used the Oestrogel--namely,

swelling of the gums behind my molars and pain in a submandibular

salivary gland. So now I only take estradiol orally.

Since a lot of doctors don't believe in saliva tests, there is this

doctor who has developed a blood spot test for female hormones. This

link is interesting, because it explains why blood tests for sex

hormones are not necessarily the best way to tell what is really

happening in our bodies.

http://209.85.165.104/search?

q=cache:TqDQZzURJ_MJ:www.zrtlab.com/File.ashx%3Fcid%

3D1324+david+zava+bloodspot & hl=en & ct=clnk & cd=2 & gl=us

I don't know how to condense that link, so I hope it works. If not,

the doctor's name is Zava.

I haven't had a hysterectomy, so can't answer your other question. ---

-Rosette

>

> I have almost decided to have a hysterectomy for hyperplasia in

spite of

> VERY low E (subclinical, they call it, in spite of using Aerodial

1.5 and

> Oestragel .75 daily). D & C and hysteroscopy showed simple

hyperplasia and polyps,

> one of which was large. I have a LOT of trouble taking P, and was

using the

> Dr. G method of every three months, taking P vaginally at 100-200

mg. for 8-9

> days, which produced a VERY heavy bleed that lasted at least five

days. I

> have done this for the past three years. I am 55.

>

> The doctor who would be doing the hysterectomy is Dr. Dary Samimi,

who has

> developed a technique whereby he cuts NONE of the pelvic ligaments

and does not

> cut the vagina at all. It is done abdominally. I would be

having only my

> uterus removed. He claims there are no sexual side-effects from

this form of

> surgery. He says that since the bundle of nerves near the cervix

is not

> cut, and the ligaments are undisturbed, that orgasm will feel

exactly the same

> as before. I was especially interested in whether or not there

were

> contractions still felt with orgasm. He said the uterus does not

contract with

> orgasm, although I could SWEAR that mine does. I would hate to

lose that. :(

>

> I think he is the doctor who did Dr. G's hysterectomy, which shows

what a

> really small world it is, as I first went to him seven years ago

for very heavy

> peri periods.

>

> I guess my question is this - for those of you who have had

hysterectomy,

> did it change the way you perceived orgasm?

>

> I hope that isn't too intimate a question. I am scared to death,

and trying

> to make a good decision, and that one aspect of it has me worried.

>

> Thank you for any replies on this, anything you can tell me about

this

> surgery if you have had it, not just the sexual results.

>

> Gael

>

>

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

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Madaleen

I am experiencing a lot of hair loss. How much Evening Primrose,

Armour and Iodine are you using and how did you determine how much

you needed.

Thanks so much,

> >

> > I have almost decided to have a hysterectomy for hyperplasia in

> spite of

> > VERY low E (subclinical, they call it, in spite of using

Aerodial

> 1.5 and

> > Oestragel .75 daily). D & C and hysteroscopy showed simple

> hyperplasia and polyps,

> > one of which was large. I have a LOT of trouble taking P, and

> was using the

> > Dr. G method of every three months, taking P vaginally at 100-

200

> mg. for 8-9

> > days, which produced a VERY heavy bleed that lasted at least

five

> days. I

> > have done this for the past three years. I am 55.

> >

> > The doctor who would be doing the hysterectomy is Dr. Dary

Samimi,

> who has

> > developed a technique whereby he cuts NONE of the pelvic

ligaments

> and does not

> > cut the vagina at all. It is done abdominally. I would be

> having only my

> > uterus removed. He claims there are no sexual side-effects from

> this form of

> > surgery. He says that since the bundle of nerves near the cervix

> is not

> > cut, and the ligaments are undisturbed, that orgasm will feel

> exactly the same

> > as before. I was especially interested in whether or not there

> were

> > contractions still felt with orgasm. He said the uterus does not

> contract with

> > orgasm, although I could SWEAR that mine does. I would hate to

> lose that. :(

> >

> > I think he is the doctor who did Dr. G's hysterectomy, which

shows

> what a

> > really small world it is, as I first went to him seven years ago

> for very heavy

> > peri periods.

> >

> > I guess my question is this - for those of you who have had

> hysterectomy,

> > did it change the way you perceived orgasm?

> >

> > I hope that isn't too intimate a question. I am scared to death,

> and trying

> > to make a good decision, and that one aspect of it has me

worried.

> >

> > Thank you for any replies on this, anything you can tell me

about

> this

> > surgery if you have had it, not just the sexual results.

> >

> > Gael

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ************************************** See what's free at

> http://www.aol.com.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha!

> Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at

Yahoo! Games.

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