Re: Spoke to the dr who put the implants in today

[Guest guest]

Kim . . .

You have a rarity . . . a truely honest plastic

surgeon!

Can we help you find a good doctor? . . . Where do you

live?

Maybe we can help you with some of your symptoms until

you can get them out too. You've already accomplished

a big step - making the connection!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

--- kimc7622 <kimc7622@...> wrote:

> The dr who put my implants in almost 8yrs ago phoned

> me today.I

> desribed the symptoms I was experiencing and he

> suggested explant as

> soon as possible.He stated that I should NOT have

> them replaced as I

> must be one of those people that are sensitive to

> them.He stated he

> could not preform the explant or lift I would need

> as his skill is not

> that great in that area so he no longer offers such

> services.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Rogene,

I am in Canada.I have spoken to Dr. Browns secretary explained the circumstances and have an appointment for a consultation with him feb 21.I have also gone to my family dr...first time in 10yrs....he is referring me to a local ps.I am frustrated with the process for sure.The appointment with Dr Brown is so far away and only a consultation.The referring ps that is local has not even called with an appointment yet.Being so sick and in pain I whave decide to go with whatever dr is able to get the explant done first.I am terrified of the outcome at the same time as pre implant my breasts were exremely saggy and resembled photo's I have seen of bad explants without replacement.I am afraid my breasts will literally fall INTO my chest as they did somewhat prior to inplants when I was in certain positions.This is all so scarey.I just want to be healthy.How long should this all take?I have been waiting for almost 2 weeks for the referring ps to call me with an appointment and have since

found several large...quarter size lumps in my natural breast tissue.Thank you again for the support.

KimRogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

Kim . . .You have a rarity . . . a truely honest plasticsurgeon!Can we help you find a good doctor? . . . Where do youlive? Maybe we can help you with some of your symptoms untilyou can get them out too. You've already accomplisheda big step - making the connection! Hugs and prayers,Rogene--- kimc7622 <kimc7622@...> wrote:> The dr who put my implants in almost 8yrs ago phoned> me today.I > desribed the symptoms I was experiencing and he> suggested explant as > soon as possible.He stated that I should NOT have> them replaced as I > must be one of those people that are sensitive to> them.He stated he > could not preform the explant or lift I would need> as his skill is not > that great in that area so he no longer offers

such> services.> > > >

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Wow, that's a first! It is so good to know that some doctors aren't

totally lost causes!

Patty

>

> The dr who put my implants in almost 8yrs ago phoned me today.I

> desribed the symptoms I was experiencing and he suggested explant as

> soon as possible.He stated that I should NOT have them replaced as I

> must be one of those people that are sensitive to them.He stated he

> could not preform the explant or lift I would need as his skill is

not

> that great in that area so he no longer offers such services.

>

[Guest guest]

Kim,

Since you have some lumps, they may expedite your

appointment. I'd be sure to let them know!

As far as how you will look afterwards, if you get a

lift, you will probably look much better than you did

preimplant. As far as choice of surgeons, the most

important thing is to have them removed properly. That

means, at a minimum, a total capsulectomy. Preferably

an en bloc procedure. You will want a doctor who will

commit to doing the job right, even if you have to

wait longer. If there is a spill, or the capsule is

left behind, it may be more difficult to recover.

Regardless, when it comes between the choice of being

healthy, or having big boobs, almost all of us would

opt to be healthy. Without health, nothing is worth

while!

Explant is a breeze compared with implant surgery. We

have plenty of women here who will atest to that!.

I'd suggest that, while you're waiting, you start

using some natural things for healing. One of the best

is raw, crushed garlic. A theraputic dose can be as

many as 12 cloves a day. . . . However, I'd start with

one, and, if that feels OK, have another later in the

day - then gradually work up to as many as you can

handle. You can get empty gel caps at a forumulating

pharmace to pack yourself. . . Just open the capsule,

scrap the garlic off the press, and close the capsule.

There are some foods, like salad or pizza that you may

enjoy garlic on. The point is not to heat the garlic

because it looses much of its potency.

Also, Oil of Oregano and Olive Leaf extract are fast

acting herbs that can help you get through a crisis.

The things to avoid are sugar!!! AND stress and anger.

Stress and anger put a terrible load on your body,

sapping energy that you need for healing. Drink plenty

of non-chlorinated water. . Avoid all the chemicals

possible. Sweat as much as possible . . . eat as

organic as possible. Avoid processed foods - but eat a

well balance diet.

Regardless of what you do, you probably won't feel

well until those implants come out. However you can

mediate your symptoms while you wait.

Probiotics like Primal Defense, acidopholis, yogurt,

and other naturally fermented foods can help restore

the flora that your body needs to maintain health.

www.curezone.com has a number of detox program listed.

Of particular interest to me is the liver detox

program. I've done a number of those with, what I

consider, excellent success.

If you have any questions, ask away . . . we have a

bunch of women who want to see you get well!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Yes I was very surprized he even emphasized that when I do seek out another ps they may try to talk me into implants since they would make more money doing this.He said I strongly encourage you to decline as they obviously don't agree with you.He predicted that if I implanted again I would again have the same problems.I was very,very surprized and quite relieved feeling he must be an ethical dr after all!glory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401@...> wrote:

Wow, that's a first! It is so good to know that some doctors aren't totally lost causes!Patty>> The dr who put my implants in almost 8yrs ago phoned me today.I > desribed the symptoms I was experiencing and he suggested explant as > soon as possible.He stated that I should NOT have them replaced as I > must be one of those people that are sensitive to them.He stated he > could not preform the explant or lift I would need as his skill is not > that great in that area so he no longer offers such services.>

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Thank you so much for the suggestions.I do have brain fog....LOL....so I am filing all advice and have made a note to look at it friday and purchase some of these things.Are there also things I can take to help my body prepare for the eventual explant surgery as well?Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

Kim,Since you have some lumps, they may expedite yourappointment. I'd be sure to let them know!As far as how you will look afterwards, if you get alift, you will probably look much better than you didpreimplant. As far as choice of surgeons, the mostimportant thing is to have them removed properly. Thatmeans, at a minimum, a total capsulectomy. Preferablyan en bloc procedure. You will want a doctor who willcommit to doing the job right, even if you have towait longer. If there is a spill, or the capsule isleft behind, it may be more difficult to recover.Regardless, when it comes between the choice of beinghealthy, or having big boobs, almost all of us wouldopt to be healthy. Without health, nothing is worthwhile!Explant is a breeze compared with implant surgery. Wehave plenty of women here who will

atest to that!. I'd suggest that, while you're waiting, you startusing some natural things for healing. One of the bestis raw, crushed garlic. A theraputic dose can be asmany as 12 cloves a day. . . . However, I'd start withone, and, if that feels OK, have another later in theday - then gradually work up to as many as you canhandle. You can get empty gel caps at a forumulatingpharmace to pack yourself. . . Just open the capsule,scrap the garlic off the press, and close the capsule.There are some foods, like salad or pizza that you mayenjoy garlic on. The point is not to heat the garlicbecause it looses much of its potency.Also, Oil of Oregano and Olive Leaf extract are fastacting herbs that can help you get through a crisis. The things to avoid are sugar!!! AND stress and anger.Stress and anger put a terrible load on your body,sapping energy that you need for healing. Drink plentyof non-chlorinated

water. . Avoid all the chemicalspossible. Sweat as much as possible . . . eat asorganic as possible. Avoid processed foods - but eat awell balance diet. Regardless of what you do, you probably won't feelwell until those implants come out. However you canmediate your symptoms while you wait. Probiotics like Primal Defense, acidopholis, yogurt,and other naturally fermented foods can help restorethe flora that your body needs to maintain health. www.curezone.com has a number of detox program listed.Of particular interest to me is the liver detoxprogram. I've done a number of those with, what Iconsider, excellent success. If you have any questions, ask away . . . we have abunch of women who want to see you get well!Hugs and prayers,Rogene

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Kim

The best preparation you can do for your surgery is to

be sure you are in the best health possible, under the

circumstances. . . Primarly, do what you can to

minimize fungal problems. . Dr. Kolb has a pre-explant

protocol for that - however, between the herbs and

probiotics, eating healthy, destressing, drinking

water, etc., you will be doing much the same thing. We

really don't understand why, but it's rare when a

woman who has had implants doesn't have a systemic

fungal/yeast/Candida problem. That alone can make you

feel horrible!

Assuming it's your implants that are making you sick,

this won't get you well while you still have your

implants. However, it can go a long way in helping you

feel better and poised for a quick recover when your

implants are out.

Sometimes it feels like an uphill battle . . . with

the wind blowing in your face! . . . Just take one

step, one day at a time. Make the changes you feel

comfortable with as you feel you can handle them.

Trying to do too much as once can be so stressful it's

counterproductive.

It took you some time to get to this stage. It's going

to take some time to get well. Just be good to

yourself and know that tomorrow will be a better day.

If you want to prove it to yourself, start keeping a

journal of how you feel and what you are doing.. .

When you have a setback, being able to see how far

you've come will strengthen your resolve to keep

going.

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

--- K Com <kimc7622@...> wrote:

> Thank you so much for the suggestions.I do have

> brain fog....LOL....so I am filing all advice and

> have made a note to look at it friday and purchase

> some of these things.Are there also things I can

> take to help my body prepare for the eventual

> explant surgery as well?

>

> Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:Kim,

>

> Since you have some lumps, they may expedite your

> appointment. I'd be sure to let them know!

>

> As far as how you will look afterwards, if you get a

> lift, you will probably look much better than you

> did

> preimplant. As far as choice of surgeons, the most

> important thing is to have them removed properly.

> That

> means, at a minimum, a total capsulectomy.

> Preferably

> an en bloc procedure. You will want a doctor who

> will

> commit to doing the job right, even if you have to

> wait longer. If there is a spill, or the capsule is

> left behind, it may be more difficult to recover.

> Regardless, when it comes between the choice of

> being

> healthy, or having big boobs, almost all of us would

> opt to be healthy. Without health, nothing is worth

> while!

>

> Explant is a breeze compared with implant surgery.

> We

> have plenty of women here who will atest to that!.

>

> I'd suggest that, while you're waiting, you start

> using some natural things for healing. One of the

> best

> is raw, crushed garlic. A theraputic dose can be as

> many as 12 cloves a day. . . . However, I'd start

> with

> one, and, if that feels OK, have another later in

> the

> day - then gradually work up to as many as you can

> handle. You can get empty gel caps at a forumulating

> pharmace to pack yourself. . . Just open the

> capsule,

> scrap the garlic off the press, and close the

> capsule.

> There are some foods, like salad or pizza that you

> may

> enjoy garlic on. The point is not to heat the garlic

> because it looses much of its potency.

>

> Also, Oil of Oregano and Olive Leaf extract are fast

> acting herbs that can help you get through a crisis.

>

>

> The things to avoid are sugar!!! AND stress and

> anger.

> Stress and anger put a terrible load on your body,

> sapping energy that you need for healing. Drink

> plenty

> of non-chlorinated water. . Avoid all the chemicals

> possible. Sweat as much as possible . . . eat as

> organic as possible. Avoid processed foods - but eat

> a

> well balance diet.

>

> Regardless of what you do, you probably won't feel

> well until those implants come out. However you can

> mediate your symptoms while you wait.

>

> Probiotics like Primal Defense, acidopholis, yogurt,

> and other naturally fermented foods can help restore

> the flora that your body needs to maintain health.

>

> www.curezone.com has a number of detox program

> listed.

> Of particular interest to me is the liver detox

> program. I've done a number of those with, what I

> consider, excellent success.

>

> If you have any questions, ask away . . . we have a

> bunch of women who want to see you get well!

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

>

>

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> medical treatment.

>

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> are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

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> Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

> Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

wow--what an honest doctor! there's a fresh approach! Would he be

willing to write the insurance company in your behalf? That would be

nice and helpful of him. I hope more doctors turn out to be like him.

hugs, kathy

>

> The dr who put my implants in almost 8yrs ago phoned me today.I

> desribed the symptoms I was experiencing and he suggested explant as

> soon as possible.He stated that I should NOT have them replaced as I

> must be one of those people that are sensitive to them.He stated he

> could not preform the explant or lift I would need as his skill is

not

> that great in that area so he no longer offers such services.

>