Re: Housekeeping etc

[Guest guest]

Another flylady advocate here. I, however, do get the individual

emails. I don't open them up, I get satisfaction in being able to

delete them when the task is done. (My cyber to do list being

checked off!) I have stopped the program several times, but as mg

states, her reminders are gentle, and I knew that I could

always 'jump in right where I am'. There is no need to 'catch up'

on this program. I have taken her reminders as a method of self

parenting. Her messages are the type of messages that a loving

parent would provide.

Sylvia

>

> " but no matter what I am still insecure and overweight, and my

house is

> a mess. The best I can see it, from a slightly distanced

perspective,

> is it's easier to hate oneself when you are fat and living in a

chaotic

> mess. " Sassy

>

> Sassy, I joined Flylady and have really benefited from the gentle

> guidance and direction this email newsletter offers. I signed up

for

> the DIGEST version, so I receive only one email per day. Flylady

> encourages self improvement and offers structure to that dreaded

> monstor, housekeeping. She also has a weight loss program tht is

very

> positive. Take care, mg

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you MG. I'll have to check it out. I've heard about her before, so I

have no excuse!

Sassy

Housekeeping etc

" but no matter what I am still insecure and overweight, and my house is

a mess. The best I can see it, from a slightly distanced perspective,

is it's easier to hate oneself when you are fat and living in a chaotic

mess. " Sassy

Sassy, I joined Flylady and have really benefited from the gentle

guidance and direction this email newsletter offers. I signed up for

the DIGEST version, so I receive only one email per day. Flylady

encourages self improvement and offers structure to that dreaded

monstor, housekeeping. She also has a weight loss program tht is very

positive. Take care, mg

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[Guest guest]

Okay, this is like the fourth time 'fly lady' has come up in the past

two weeks. Seems obvious I'm meant to look into her and try it though I

don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to!!!! I like my pigpen-

lol. Actually I don't. It sucks, but finding the motivation and

dedication to actually start flylady's thing is what's weighing me

down. I think I'll go over there sometime today and just sign up and do

the delete when I don't want to do it and do what I want when I want

and trust that it being in my mail box will at least prompt me

(actually my house is fairly organized and neat though I honestly have

no dusted since March and I should probably do other things as well and

yet I love being online here more than I love cleaning- ooooohhh, how

about that for honesty? lol)

Kerrie

>

> " but no matter what I am still insecure and overweight, and my house

is

> a mess. The best I can see it, from a slightly distanced

perspective,

> is it's easier to hate oneself when you are fat and living in a

chaotic

> mess. " Sassy

>

> Sassy, I joined Flylady and have really benefited from the gentle

> guidance and direction this email newsletter offers. I signed up for

> the DIGEST version, so I receive only one email per day. Flylady

> encourages self improvement and offers structure to that dreaded

> monstor, housekeeping. She also has a weight loss program tht is

very

> positive. Take care, mg

>

[Guest guest]

I'm a flybaby too off and on. It has really helped me. I got her book

and it really helped clarify the system as a whole. I got kind of

overwhelmed with the website. The book is called " Sink Reflections "

and is available at most major book stores, online at amazon and off

her own website.

Fresabird

> Okay, this is like the fourth time 'fly lady' has come up in the past

> two weeks. Seems obvious I'm meant to look into her and try it though I

> don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to!!!! I like my pigpen-

> lol. Actually I don't. It sucks, but finding the motivation and

> dedication to actually start flylady's thing is what's weighing me

> down. I think I'll go over there sometime today and just sign up and do

> the delete when I don't want to do it and do what I want when I want

> and trust that it being in my mail box will at least prompt me

> (actually my house is fairly organized and neat though I honestly have

> no dusted since March and I should probably do other things as well and

> yet I love being online here more than I love cleaning- ooooohhh, how

> about that for honesty? lol)

> Kerrie

>

>>

>> " but no matter what I am still insecure and overweight, and my house

> is

>> a mess. The best I can see it, from a slightly distanced

> perspective,

>> is it's easier to hate oneself when you are fat and living in a

> chaotic

>> mess. " Sassy

>>

>> Sassy, I joined Flylady and have really benefited from the gentle

>> guidance and direction this email newsletter offers. I signed up for

>> the DIGEST version, so I receive only one email per day. Flylady

>> encourages self improvement and offers structure to that dreaded

>> monstor, housekeeping. She also has a weight loss program tht is

> very

>> positive. Take care, mg

>>

>

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> Problems? Ask our friendly List Manager for help at

> @.... SEND HER ANY POSTS THAT CONCERN YOU; DO NOT

> Respond ON THE GROUP.

>

> To order the KO bible " Stop Walking on Eggshells, " call 888-35-SHELL

> () for your copy. We also refer to “Understanding the

> Borderline Mother” (Lawson) and “Surviving the Borderline Parent,”

> (Roth) which you can find at any bookstore. Welcome to the WTO

> community!

>

> From Randi Kreger, Owner BPDCentral, WTO Online Community and author

> SWOE and the SWOE Workbook.

>

[Guest guest]

> >>

> >> " but no matter what I am still insecure and overweight, and my house

> > is

> >> a mess. The best I can see it, from a slightly distanced

> > perspective,

> >> is it's easier to hate oneself when you are fat and living in a

> > chaotic

> >> mess. " Sassy

> >>

> >> Sassy, I joined Flylady and have really benefited from the gentle

> >> guidance and direction this email newsletter offers. I signed up for

> >> the DIGEST version, so I receive only one email per day. Flylady

> >> encourages self improvement and offers structure to that dreaded

> >> monstor, housekeeping. She also has a weight loss program tht is

> > very

> >> positive. Take care, mg

> >>

> >

> >

> >

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> >

> >

> > Problems? Ask our friendly List Manager for help at

> > @... SEND HER ANY POSTS THAT CONCERN YOU; DO NOT

> > Respond ON THE GROUP.

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> > To order the KO bible " Stop Walking on Eggshells, " call 888-35-SHELL

> > () for your copy. We also refer to " Understanding the

> > Borderline Mother " (Lawson) and " Surviving the Borderline Parent, "

> > (Roth) which you can find at any bookstore. Welcome to the WTO

> > community!

> >

> > From Randi Kreger, Owner BPDCentral, WTO Online Community and author

> > SWOE and the SWOE Workbook.

> >

[Guest guest]

Flybaby ? Me too ! ... I think her foundation is very helpful and

encouraging.

I especially like the FLY part. Finally Loving Yourself. I try to shine my

sink, make my bed and swish and swipe... It's a neat system.

twin.less

gmat60 wrote:

>Ok! I confess. I am a flybaby too.

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[Guest guest]

I like FlyLady a lot. I have a flea that once I start cleaning, I

can't stop until it's " all done " , which it never is - so I wouldn't

start. That's from Mom finding endless things for me to do because

if she didn't get to go out to play, why should I? The timer helps

a lot. I can do a lot in 10 or 15 minutes, and then, yes Mom, I am

stopping. The kids respond better when I ask them for help for a

specific time period, like 15 or 30 minutes. They know I will let

them go when the bell rings, and so we race around to see how much

we can get done.

However, I have a problem with some of admonitions to " stop

whining. " Like, your feelings aren't valid, suck it up. That's the

message I grew up with, and I don't need more of it. Your family

isn't helping? Just smile and don't say anything, they'll catch on

and pitch in... Suurrre they will! This to me sounds like expecting

other people to read my mind. I think it's healthier to tell them

what I expect them to do, cheerfully but firmly. And yes I am

frustrated when someone leaves a pile of dirty dishes in my shiny

sink, that's not whining, that's honesty!

> >Ok! I confess. I am a flybaby too.

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[Guest guest]

I don't start .. because I have so much to do... and you're

right. The timer is my friend too. I just seem to get a lot more

accomplished than when I'm a free bird.

Interesting about your Nada and housework.

my experience... re: the Nada. I would have to help clean every

Saturday. All day. .. and just when I thought I was done. Nada

found something else for me to. I remember having to run the *carpet

sweeper* on the living room carpet. Well those DAMN things don't do

anything but pick up something here... and then deposit it in a

different spot. I'd do my chore.. and then say OK I'm done ! Can I

go ride my bike now ?

.... no.. you can't ... look at that string on the carpet over there..

you go back and do it again... and again.. and again. I would try to

explain that the carpet sweeper doesn't clean properly.. and I would

show her why. Didn't matter.

She made me use that useless thing anyway.

I WILL NEVER OWN A CARPET SWEEPER !... ever.

twin.less

>

>

> I like FlyLady a lot. I have a flea that once I start cleaning, I

> can't stop until it's " all done " , which it never is - so I wouldn't

> start. That's from Mom finding endless things for me to do because

> if she didn't get to go out to play, why should I? The timer helps

> a lot. I can do a lot in 10 or 15 minutes, and then, yes Mom, I am

> stopping. The kids respond better when I ask them for help for a

> specific time period, like 15 or 30 minutes. They know I will let

> them go when the bell rings, and so we race around to see how much

> we can get done.

>

> However, I have a problem with some of admonitions to " stop

> whining. " Like, your feelings aren't valid, suck it up. That's

the

> message I grew up with, and I don't need more of it. Your family

> isn't helping? Just smile and don't say anything, they'll catch on

> and pitch in... Suurrre they will! This to me sounds like

expecting

> other people to read my mind. I think it's healthier to tell them

> what I expect them to do, cheerfully but firmly. And yes I am

> frustrated when someone leaves a pile of dirty dishes in my shiny

> sink, that's not whining, that's honesty!

>

[Guest guest]

I don't start .. because I have so much to do... and you're

right. The timer is my friend too. I just seem to get a lot more

accomplished than when I'm a free bird.

Interesting about your Nada and housework.

my experience... re: the Nada. I would have to help clean every

Saturday. All day. .. and just when I thought I was done. Nada

found something else for me to. I remember having to run the *carpet

sweeper* on the living room carpet. Well those DAMN things don't do

anything but pick up something here... and then deposit it in a

different spot. I'd do my chore.. and then say OK I'm done ! Can I

go ride my bike now ?

.... no.. you can't ... look at that string on the carpet over there..

you go back and do it again... and again.. and again. I would try to

explain that the carpet sweeper doesn't clean properly.. and I would

show her why. Didn't matter.

She made me use that useless thing anyway.

I WILL NEVER OWN A CARPET SWEEPER !... ever.

twin.less

>

>

> I like FlyLady a lot. I have a flea that once I start cleaning, I

> can't stop until it's " all done " , which it never is - so I wouldn't

> start. That's from Mom finding endless things for me to do because

> if she didn't get to go out to play, why should I? The timer helps

> a lot. I can do a lot in 10 or 15 minutes, and then, yes Mom, I am

> stopping. The kids respond better when I ask them for help for a

> specific time period, like 15 or 30 minutes. They know I will let

> them go when the bell rings, and so we race around to see how much

> we can get done.

>

> However, I have a problem with some of admonitions to " stop

> whining. " Like, your feelings aren't valid, suck it up. That's

the

> message I grew up with, and I don't need more of it. Your family

> isn't helping? Just smile and don't say anything, they'll catch on

> and pitch in... Suurrre they will! This to me sounds like

expecting

> other people to read my mind. I think it's healthier to tell them

> what I expect them to do, cheerfully but firmly. And yes I am

> frustrated when someone leaves a pile of dirty dishes in my shiny

> sink, that's not whining, that's honesty!

>

[Guest guest]

Hi all Back from TX, I tried to post before but I dont think it

showed up, so sorry if this one is here 2 times. I was just going to

say I have friends who do the fly lady and they love it! I started

my own system that seems to work well for me. When I first moved out

I never scrubed the floor for like 2 years and would only use the

dishwasher. Now I am more organized. I was so sick and tired of

doing daily floor scrubbing. 3 times a day in the summer.yuk!

I scrub the floor every week. I dust every 3-4 days (no choice its a

new construction and very dusty) I daily tidy up the bathroom but do

bathroom cleaning hardcore 1 time a week. Dishes and kitchen are a

daily thing but I don't touch hot dishes from the dishwasher and I

dont unplug cold dirty dishwater. Beds are also made right away in

the morn. I wait to do the laundy every other day so I have a good 4

loads. I know if a do 1 thing a day it wont stack up on me. I try to

spend about 2 hours a day cleaning and 1-2 hours a day cooking.The

rest of the day is with the kids. Not everybody can do it but it

works for me because I stay at home. I don't know how I would keep

up with a full time job on top of it you woman who work are amazing!

I am so happy my husband agreed that I had to much stress and that I

should stay home with the kids for a few years. At first I was was

working and I almost went mental. Now I can focus just on my family

and healing my soul. I really needed this time to calm the nerves

and I think the kids need me at home to so it works for all of us.

I also use my time to practice piano, use the computer and garden

and other things I like because my kids join me we turn it into

games. Like when i am sweeping they sometimes pretend I am the

walmart cleaner and they are the cashiers. Or if I am cooking it is

for their fancy reastraunt. They even like to help me in the

garden " water the grass " or something. When I am on the computer

they color next to me and we play office. If I paly piano it is a

concert. just silly games but it keeps us together.

One thing that sometimes I have a hard time with is I dont want them

to think life is just fun and games. I never had that as a kid. My

husband punished my one son by making him clean the toilet for 2

weeks every day and I didnt think it was a punishment because that

was daily life for me growing up. He needs to remind me my life

wasn't normal. So how can I teach my children to work with out

hurting them? Where is the line? Lizzy

> >

> >

> > I like FlyLady a lot. I have a flea that once I start cleaning,

I

> > can't stop until it's " all done " , which it never is - so I

wouldn't

> > start. That's from Mom finding endless things for me to do

because

> > if she didn't get to go out to play, why should I? The timer

helps

> > a lot. I can do a lot in 10 or 15 minutes, and then, yes Mom, I

am

> > stopping. The kids respond better when I ask them for help for a

> > specific time period, like 15 or 30 minutes. They know I will

let

> > them go when the bell rings, and so we race around to see how

much

> > we can get done.

> >

> > However, I have a problem with some of admonitions to " stop

> > whining. " Like, your feelings aren't valid, suck it up. That's

> the

> > message I grew up with, and I don't need more of it. Your

family

> > isn't helping? Just smile and don't say anything, they'll catch

on

> > and pitch in... Suurrre they will! This to me sounds like

> expecting

> > other people to read my mind. I think it's healthier to tell

them

> > what I expect them to do, cheerfully but firmly. And yes I am

> > frustrated when someone leaves a pile of dirty dishes in my

shiny

> > sink, that's not whining, that's honesty!

> >

>