Re: An Implant That Grew inside my breast

October 25, 2005

-HI. I am glad that you got the implant. He certainly could have

done a more thorough job. Doctors are so ignorant. They make

decisions on their own that affect our health and don't bat an eye

while they are doing it. I would continue to pursue the implant

contamination and also to start detoxing your body. If you continue

to see improvements, it is possible that you will be fine without

another surgery. Certainly your body is already better off for

having those things out of there! I would make sure to include alot

of natural antifungal/antiviral/antibacterial supplements in your

diet. EAting garlic and onions is helpful as well as using coconut

oil . Certainly using primal defense would be helpful and I would

also take oil of oregano and olive leaf extract. These are two

powerful and natural substances that kill a wide variety of

pathogens. Detox baths will also help. There are many things you

can do to help your body release its toxins. Just be aware that all

of these things can cause your body to have a " cleansing reaction "

or herxheimer. That means that while you would think you would feel

better, it is very possible to feel worse while your body is

eliminating these things. Everyone is different in how their body

will respond. It is important to listen to your body so that you

will know when something is helping and when it isn't ---having a

herxheimer is a good sign. But too much of one can make you feel

terrible and possibly be counterproductive. Many women think they

are actually getting worse when in fact they are just herxing.

Usually a good way to tell is to stop the supplement for a few days

and see if you feel a little better. If you do, you can be pretty

sure it is what you are doing that is causing you to feel

temporarily worse, not that you are getting worse. Herxheimer

symptoms can be muscle, joint pain, spasms, fatigue, headache,

dizziness, fever, just about anything--including worsening of old

symptoms or addition of new ones. Are you doing any detoxing yet?

Hugs kathy

-- In , " busyannbee "

<busylikeabee@h...> wrote:

>

> UPDATE:

> Hello ladies,

>

> I went for my follow up appointment today. He said that he took a

> fluid sample from the implant and sent it off to the lab. I asked

> if they test for mold, fungus and bacteria and he said yes. And

he

> should have results within a week. And the implant became larger

> due to " spontaneous autoinflation " . (Interesting that he all of a

> sudden knew what it was only after I mentiond the study by Dr.

> about " Spontaneous Autoinflation of Saline Mammary

> Implants " ). There was a higher saline concentration in that

> implant, and probably over a long time my body fluids entered the

> implants by osmosis. He said he did not remove all of my capsule

> because it is not necessary! That worries me.

> He did not have my 'normal' right implant because he deflated the

> implant before removing it so he could make a smaller cut.

> I asked him for my implant twice and he finally gave it to me but

> told me not to throw it away as he may want to do more tests on it

> in the future.

> He said did not have a bag to put it in to give to me but finally

> gave me a shopping bag? Strange. He reminded me that the implant

> has been compromised because they had to remove some liquid.

> I will be sending it to Dr Blais ASAP!

>

> > > > > > > >Well I see him on Friday?

> > > > > > > >He said he took pictures and will give them to me

> > > > > > > >Maybe I should call him today to get the implant

> > > > > > > >The article says it is our own tissue? what do you

mean

> > by

> > > > that?

> > > > > > > >can you forward the article to me please?

> > > > > > > >No it was not ruptured. He made sure to keep it

intact

> > > > because he

> > > > > > > >says he wants to study it! He is a professor in

> Toronto

> > > too.

> > > > > > > >How would I keep it/store it?

> > > > > > > >Ann

> > > > > > > >--- In , " Lea "

> > > > <devans@c...>

> > > > > > > >wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dearest Ann:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I have heard that the capsule will continue to

grow

> if

> > > it

> > > > is

> > > > > >not

> > > > > > > >removed

> > > > > > > > > during explant surgery. In my case we are sure

that

> > the

> > > > capsule

> > > > > > > >grew because

> > > > > > > > > I had very small breast implants and my breasts

> became

> > > > very big

> > > > > > > >and hard. I

> > > > > > > > > have the article here somewhere that claims that

the

> > > > capsule

> > > > > >will

> > > > > > > >continue

> > > > > > > > > to grow because it is our own tissue!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In your case it could have been contaminated

fluid.

> > Was

> > > > your

> > > > > > > >implant

> > > > > > > > > ruptured when the doctor showed it to you? I hope

> that

> > > > someone

> > > > > > > >took a

> > > > > > > > > picture of this implant because it would help our

> > cause.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sending love..............Lea

> > > > > > > > >

> > > >

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~```

> > > > > > > > > An Implant That " Grew "

> inside

> > my

> > > > > >breast

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hello Ladies

> > > > > > > > > > Nine years ago (I was 21) I had saline implants

> > (under

> > > > the

> > > > > > > >muscle).

> > > > > > > > > > Over the past 6 months I had swelling and

> hardening

> > in

> > > my

> > > > > >left

> > > > > > > >breast

> > > > > > > > > > and pain. Yesterday I had my implants removed.

> The

> > > left

> > > > > >implant

> > > > > > > >GREW

> > > > > > > > > > in size....from 320cc to 600cc. It was an

orange

> > > colour

> > > > > >unlike

> > > > > > > >the

> > > > > > > > > > right one which looked the same way it looked.

The

> > > doctor

> > > > > >said

> > > > > > > >he has

> > > > > > > > > > only seen this in 2 other times and could not

> figure

> > > out

> > > > why

> > > > > >or

> > > > > > > >how

> > > > > > > > > > this happened. He looked perplexed.

> > > > > > > > > > Has anyone else heard of this rare side effect?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Ann

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the

place

> > of

> > > > advice

> > > > > > > >given by

> > > > > > > > > > licensed health care professionals. Consult your

> > > > physician or

> > > > > > > >licensed

> > > > > > > > > > health care professional before commencing any

> > medical

> > > > > >treatment.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or

the

> > > > politicians

> > > > > > > >mislead you.

> > > > > > > > > > Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> > > decisions

> > > > > >about

> > > > > > > >how to live

> > > > > > > > > > a happy life and how to work for a better

world. " -

>

> > > Linus

> > > > > > > >ing,

> > > > > > > > > > two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry;

> 1963,

> > > > Peace)

> > > > > > > > > >

October 25, 2005

Hello Kathy,

Thanks for all that information!

I have not started detoxing yet. I was thinking of visiting a

naturpath in the near future. I have a whole food juicer and plan

to start juicing this week. Has anyone tried an infared sauna, for

detoxing?

Hugs Ann

> > > > > > > > >Well I see him on Friday?

> > > > > > > > >He said he took pictures and will give them to me

> > > > > > > > >Maybe I should call him today to get the implant

> > > > > > > > >The article says it is our own tissue? what do you

> mean

> > > by

> > > > > that?

> > > > > > > > >can you forward the article to me please?

> > > > > > > > >No it was not ruptured. He made sure to keep it

> intact

> > > > > because he

> > > > > > > > >says he wants to study it! He is a professor in

> > Toronto

> > > > too.

> > > > > > > > >How would I keep it/store it?

> > > > > > > > >Ann

> > > > > > > > >--- In , " Lea "

> > > > > <devans@c...>

> > > > > > > > >wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dearest Ann:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I have heard that the capsule will continue to

> grow

> > if

> > > > it

> > > > > is

> > > > > > >not

> > > > > > > > >removed

> > > > > > > > > > during explant surgery. In my case we are sure

> that

> > > the

> > > > > capsule

> > > > > > > > >grew because

> > > > > > > > > > I had very small breast implants and my breasts

> > became

> > > > > very big

> > > > > > > > >and hard. I

> > > > > > > > > > have the article here somewhere that claims that

> the

> > > > > capsule

> > > > > > >will

> > > > > > > > >continue

> > > > > > > > > > to grow because it is our own tissue!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In your case it could have been contaminated

> fluid.

> > > Was

> > > > > your

> > > > > > > > >implant

> > > > > > > > > > ruptured when the doctor showed it to you? I

hope

> > that

> > > > > someone

> > > > > > > > >took a

> > > > > > > > > > picture of this implant because it would help

our

> > > cause.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Sending love..............Lea

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > >

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~```

> > > > > > > > > > An Implant That " Grew "

> > inside

> > > my

> > > > > > >breast

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ladies

> > > > > > > > > > > Nine years ago (I was 21) I had saline

implants

> > > (under

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > >muscle).

> > > > > > > > > > > Over the past 6 months I had swelling and

> > hardening

> > > in

> > > > my

> > > > > > >left

> > > > > > > > >breast

> > > > > > > > > > > and pain. Yesterday I had my implants

removed.

> > The

> > > > left

> > > > > > >implant

> > > > > > > > >GREW

> > > > > > > > > > > in size....from 320cc to 600cc. It was an

> orange

> > > > colour

> > > > > > >unlike

> > > > > > > > >the

> > > > > > > > > > > right one which looked the same way it looked.

> The

> > > > doctor

> > > > > > >said

> > > > > > > > >he has

> > > > > > > > > > > only seen this in 2 other times and could not

> > figure

> > > > out

> > > > > why

> > > > > > >or

> > > > > > > > >how

> > > > > > > > > > > this happened. He looked perplexed.

> > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone else heard of this rare side effect?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Ann

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the

> place

> > > of

> > > > > advice

> > > > > > > > >given by

> > > > > > > > > > > licensed health care professionals. Consult

your

> > > > > physician or

> > > > > > > > >licensed

> > > > > > > > > > > health care professional before commencing any

> > > medical

> > > > > > >treatment.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or

> the

> > > > > politicians

> > > > > > > > >mislead you.

> > > > > > > > > > > Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> > > > decisions

> > > > > > >about

> > > > > > > > >how to live

> > > > > > > > > > > a happy life and how to work for a better

> world. " -

> >

> > > > Linus

> > > > > > > > >ing,

> > > > > > > > > > > two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry;

> > 1963,

> > > > > Peace)

> > > > > > > > > > >

October 25, 2005

Hi ann

Yes I own a far infrared sauna. I really like mine. I know one

woman on our site that felt it really helped with some of her

neuropathy symptoms. I often got a headache when I used the sauna

and I am pretty sure it was a detox symptom. It really does make

you sweat perfusely. Some cities now have spas you can go to and

use their Far infrared saunas instead of buying your own. Detox

baths work very well also and are alot cheaper. Using epsom salts

works well. So does sea salt and also bentonite clay. I really

herx to bentonite clay for me it was quite a strong detoxifier.

Good luck

hugs, kathy

> > > > > > > > > >Well I see him on Friday?

> > > > > > > > > >He said he took pictures and will give them to me

> > > > > > > > > >Maybe I should call him today to get the implant

> > > > > > > > > >The article says it is our own tissue? what do

you

> > mean

> > > > by

> > > > > > that?

> > > > > > > > > >can you forward the article to me please?

> > > > > > > > > >No it was not ruptured. He made sure to keep it

> > intact

> > > > > > because he

> > > > > > > > > >says he wants to study it! He is a professor in

> > > Toronto

> > > > > too.

> > > > > > > > > >How would I keep it/store it?

> > > > > > > > > >Ann

> > > > > > > > > >--- In , " Lea "

> > > > > > <devans@c...>

> > > > > > > > > >wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dearest Ann:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I have heard that the capsule will continue to

> > grow

> > > if

> > > > > it

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > >not

> > > > > > > > > >removed

> > > > > > > > > > > during explant surgery. In my case we are sure

> > that

> > > > the

> > > > > > capsule

> > > > > > > > > >grew because

> > > > > > > > > > > I had very small breast implants and my

breasts

> > > became

> > > > > > very big

> > > > > > > > > >and hard. I

> > > > > > > > > > > have the article here somewhere that claims

that

> > the

> > > > > > capsule

> > > > > > > >will

> > > > > > > > > >continue

> > > > > > > > > > > to grow because it is our own tissue!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > In your case it could have been contaminated

> > fluid.

> > > > Was

> > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > > >implant

> > > > > > > > > > > ruptured when the doctor showed it to you? I

> hope

> > > that

> > > > > > someone

> > > > > > > > > >took a

> > > > > > > > > > > picture of this implant because it would help

> our

> > > > cause.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Sending love..............Lea

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~```

> > > > > > > > > > > An Implant

That " Grew "

> > > inside

> > > > my

> > > > > > > >breast

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ladies

> > > > > > > > > > > > Nine years ago (I was 21) I had saline

> implants

> > > > (under

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > >muscle).

> > > > > > > > > > > > Over the past 6 months I had swelling and

> > > hardening

> > > > in

> > > > > my

> > > > > > > >left

> > > > > > > > > >breast

> > > > > > > > > > > > and pain. Yesterday I had my implants

> removed.

> > > The

> > > > > left

> > > > > > > >implant

> > > > > > > > > >GREW

> > > > > > > > > > > > in size....from 320cc to 600cc. It was an

> > orange

> > > > > colour

> > > > > > > >unlike

> > > > > > > > > >the

> > > > > > > > > > > > right one which looked the same way it

looked.

> > The

> > > > > doctor

> > > > > > > >said

> > > > > > > > > >he has

> > > > > > > > > > > > only seen this in 2 other times and could

not

> > > figure

> > > > > out

> > > > > > why

> > > > > > > >or

> > > > > > > > > >how

> > > > > > > > > > > > this happened. He looked perplexed.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone else heard of this rare side

effect?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Ann

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the

> > place

> > > > of

> > > > > > advice

> > > > > > > > > >given by

> > > > > > > > > > > > licensed health care professionals. Consult

> your

> > > > > > physician or

> > > > > > > > > >licensed

> > > > > > > > > > > > health care professional before commencing

any

> > > > medical

> > > > > > > >treatment.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities

or

> > the

> > > > > > politicians

> > > > > > > > > >mislead you.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Find out what the facts are, and make your

own

> > > > > decisions

> > > > > > > >about

> > > > > > > > > >how to live

> > > > > > > > > > > > a happy life and how to work for a better

> > world. " -

> > >

> > > > > Linus

> > > > > > > > > >ing,

> > > > > > > > > > > > two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

Chemistry;

> > > 1963,

> > > > > > Peace)

> > > > > > > > > > > >

October 25, 2005

Ann,

I have a far infrared sauna - so does Patty. You can

get a lot of info by doing a websearch. . . check a

number of brands. . Each has their own way of

explaining it.

I really enjoy mine! . . . It helps get rid of aches

and pains . . . my peripheral neuropathy is all but

gone. My anti-health hubby even enjoys using it. You

don't feel wiped out with far infrared like you do

with steam or dry saunas. The air temp is actually

relatively cool. They are economical to operate too.

There are times when the sweat I experience while

using the infrared sauna is incredibly stinky! . . .

I'm not sure what I'm getting rid of . . . but,

obviously it need to go!

L.Ron Hubbard wrote a book " Clear Body, Clear Mind " a

long time ago . . . He describes how sweat therapy can

get rid of toxins. (I figure everyone is entitled to

one good idea - I don't like his scientology ideas

though!) . . . The Church of Scientology has detox

centers set up across the country that use saunas.

It is important to increase water soluable vitamins

when working a sweat program intensively.

Hugs,

Rogene

--- busyannbee <busylikeabee@...> wrote:

> Hello Kathy,

>

> Thanks for all that information!

> I have not started detoxing yet. I was thinking of

> visiting a

> naturpath in the near future. I have a whole food

> juicer and plan

> to start juicing this week. Has anyone tried an

> infared sauna, for

> detoxing?

>

> Hugs Ann

>

> > > > >

> > > > > Ann

> > > > > I am sorry that you have found yourself in

> this situation

> with

> > > > your

> > > > > doctor. Hopefully you will get the implants

> back without

> any

> > > > > problem but some doctors can be really

> obnoxious. It does

> > sound

> > > > > like your implant was infiltrated and then

> there was a

> > > pathogenic

> > > > > process going on. So, it was really good

> that you got them

> > > out.

> > > > > Are you sure that he didn't take any of the

> capsule out? If

> > > not,

> > > > > that could hold up healing. It would be

> nice to find out

> what

> > > is

> > > > > going on in your implants, especially

> because if they are

>

=== message truncated ===

October 26, 2005

Ann,

Juicing will be a great addition to a detox program. Just remember

to take it slow if you start to feel toxic again. I could handle

carrot/apple juices okay, but once I started juicing alot of greens,

whoa, watch out! That nasty brain fog was back in no time and made

my life miserable. I think it has something to do with elevating

cytokines....but in any case, I had to cut back on my juicing of

greens.

I also have an infrared sauna and love it. It is great for kicking

up a good sweat and making you feel cleaned out. If I use it before

I go to bed, it makes me sleep like a baby. However, after I was

first explanted, it made my brain fog worse as well, so I had to cut

that back for about a year and then when I started using it again, I

wrapped my head in a wet towel. Now I can use it with no problems,

so over time I have seen exactly how much I have improved.

Same goes with sugar....it would make me get brain fog right away,

but since I have detoxed and feel good as new again, I can tolerate

sugar. As a matter of fact, I am eating way more of it lately than

I should be! And geeze, here comes Halloween! I should be the one

taking my kids out, but I've got my ankle in a cast again and so it

looks like I'll be manning that candy bowl. NOT a good thing!

Beth Lakey, who used to post on this group also had great results

with her sauna usage. She had neurological problems that cleared up

quite well with heavy metal detoxing and if I remember right, the

two therapies she used most were the magnetic clay baths and

saunas. It is so good to hear the stories of women getting well

again, and she was one of them!

You will be too....learn all you can about detoxing and do what you

are comfortable with, and slowly but surely you will get your health

back. Be tenacious...be patient. It will happen!

Hugs,

Patty

> > > > > > > > > >Well I see him on Friday?

> > > > > > > > > >He said he took pictures and will give them to me

> > > > > > > > > >Maybe I should call him today to get the implant

> > > > > > > > > >The article says it is our own tissue? what do

you

> > mean

> > > > by

> > > > > > that?

> > > > > > > > > >can you forward the article to me please?

> > > > > > > > > >No it was not ruptured. He made sure to keep it

> > intact

> > > > > > because he

> > > > > > > > > >says he wants to study it! He is a professor in

> > > Toronto

> > > > > too.

> > > > > > > > > >How would I keep it/store it?

> > > > > > > > > >Ann

> > > > > > > > > >--- In , " Lea "

> > > > > > <devans@c...>

> > > > > > > > > >wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dearest Ann:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I have heard that the capsule will continue to

> > grow

> > > if

> > > > > it

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > >not

> > > > > > > > > >removed

> > > > > > > > > > > during explant surgery. In my case we are sure

> > that

> > > > the

> > > > > > capsule

> > > > > > > > > >grew because

> > > > > > > > > > > I had very small breast implants and my

breasts

> > > became

> > > > > > very big

> > > > > > > > > >and hard. I

> > > > > > > > > > > have the article here somewhere that claims

that

> > the

> > > > > > capsule

> > > > > > > >will

> > > > > > > > > >continue

> > > > > > > > > > > to grow because it is our own tissue!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > In your case it could have been contaminated

> > fluid.

> > > > Was

> > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > > >implant

> > > > > > > > > > > ruptured when the doctor showed it to you? I

> hope

> > > that

> > > > > > someone

> > > > > > > > > >took a

> > > > > > > > > > > picture of this implant because it would help

> our

> > > > cause.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Sending love..............Lea

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~```

> > > > > > > > > > > An Implant

That " Grew "

> > > inside

> > > > my

> > > > > > > >breast

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ladies

> > > > > > > > > > > > Nine years ago (I was 21) I had saline

> implants

> > > > (under

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > >muscle).

> > > > > > > > > > > > Over the past 6 months I had swelling and

> > > hardening

> > > > in

> > > > > my

> > > > > > > >left

> > > > > > > > > >breast

> > > > > > > > > > > > and pain. Yesterday I had my implants

> removed.

> > > The

> > > > > left

> > > > > > > >implant

> > > > > > > > > >GREW

> > > > > > > > > > > > in size....from 320cc to 600cc. It was an

> > orange

> > > > > colour

> > > > > > > >unlike

> > > > > > > > > >the

> > > > > > > > > > > > right one which looked the same way it

looked.

> > The

> > > > > doctor

> > > > > > > >said

> > > > > > > > > >he has

> > > > > > > > > > > > only seen this in 2 other times and could

not

> > > figure

> > > > > out

> > > > > > why

> > > > > > > >or

> > > > > > > > > >how

> > > > > > > > > > > > this happened. He looked perplexed.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone else heard of this rare side

effect?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Ann

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the

> > place

> > > > of

> > > > > > advice

> > > > > > > > > >given by

> > > > > > > > > > > > licensed health care professionals. Consult

> your

> > > > > > physician or

> > > > > > > > > >licensed

> > > > > > > > > > > > health care professional before commencing

any

> > > > medical

> > > > > > > >treatment.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities

or

> > the

> > > > > > politicians

> > > > > > > > > >mislead you.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Find out what the facts are, and make your

own

> > > > > decisions

> > > > > > > >about

> > > > > > > > > >how to live

> > > > > > > > > > > > a happy life and how to work for a better

> > world. " -

> > >

> > > > > Linus

> > > > > > > > > >ing,

> > > > > > > > > > > > two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

Chemistry;

> > > 1963,

> > > > > > Peace)

> > > > > > > > > > > >

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