Re: After breast implants

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

We have had one of our ladies go from being extremely ill to

explanted and, after going through many months (maybe 2 years?) of

healing, she successfully gave birth to a beautiful baby boy in June!

Her name is and she recently said goodbye to the group so she

could focus on raising her family.

I am quite certain that you will be able to have a baby in time,

after you have gone through some months of healing and given your

body the best chance at recovery, and building itself up for a

healthy pregnancy. It might take you some time to feel better

again...it took me 4 years to fully heal. Just be patient, and I

know how hard that is to do, but you will have to do some

detoxification of your body for the best recovery.

is not breastfeeding from what I understand, after thinking

long and hard about it. I think she was more concerned about the

health of her baby and the exposure to any toxins that may have

remained in her breasts. I think it would be preferable to

breastfeed, but if you have already made up your mind about it, then

that is what is important--you need to be comfortable about it.

You will want to make sure you have had a proper explant, including

a total capsulectomy. Then, if it were me, I would probably want to

wait at least a year until I tried to get pregnant, if not more,

just to make sure my health had a good chance to fully recover. The

healing process is such a slow one.

If you have any more questions, you might want to get in touch with

....she last posted in June, so you can check through the

archives to get her address. Hopefully she will respond and have

some good tips for you! I do know that she went through alot in her

healing process, including dealing with celiac disease and

Hashimoto's thyroid disease, both of which required close monitoring.

She was a real trooper and did an outstanding job of taking care of

herself.

Best wishes!

Patty

--- In , " Mike " <iceman18152000@y...>

wrote:

>

> Hi ladies I haven't been able to write for a couple days. I have

> been getting worse by the minute. I can't believe how much pain I

> have in my breast. I have had a really bad rash this entire year.

> That was my first problem and it continues to test me. The rash is

> so bad right now that it looks like my scar around my nipple is

> opening. I asked my husband because it's a little harder for me to

> get a good look. He said it just looks like a paper cut over my

scar

> which is starting to freak me out a little. I'm going to Bethesda

in

> lang on Wednesday. I hear from a lot of people that is suppose

> to be the best Naval hospital. I'm going to check with the PS

there

> to see if they will do my explant and do it the way I want it

done.

> I'm not worried about my insurance because I was already told I'm

> covered so that's a little weight off my mind. Money is tight with

> the holidays coming and my husband and I just bought our first

home

> a month ago. Other then all that my real question is about breast

> feeding and getting pregnant. I've read about some of you ladies

> being pregnant while you still had your implants but have any of

you

> had a baby since you were explanted. We have been trying for a

baby

> but stopped as I started to feel worse. I want to be better before

I

> get pregnant. Once I have the explant done how long until my body

> should be able to handle that? I know a lot happens to your breast

> once you get pregnant and I'm not sure if I'll be able to handle

> that pain for a while after. I wouldn't even worry about it but

> being a military wife I only have my husband home for short

periods

> of time. He has been given a land station for the next four years

> and after that it's back to a boat. I have to use my time while I

> have it! I've already made my mind up about breast feeding. I've

> just been through to much to even try. I don't know if my breast

> will ever be up to that kinda work but on top of that I don't know

> if my breast will ever be 100% safe for my baby! Have any of you

> breast fed after explant? I would just wait and talk to my doctor

> about all my questions but I've already had such good luck with

them

> I don't know if I'd believe what they say. I want woman who have

> been there and know what I'm talking about. When it comes time for

> me to have a baby and take care of that baby I don't want to

chance

> anything! I took a chance with my own health and look at where I

am

> now.

> Thanks a bunch,

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

A lot of women have had problems getting pregnant, or

miscarrying while implanted.

No one can tell you how long it will take to be ready

for a pregnacy after implants. However, I'm confident

you will know when you're ready.

With motivation like that, I know you will really be

putting yourself into your program. Hopefully it won't

take too long.

I'm Bcc'd your message to . Hopefully she will

get with you on what she's done. She had a lot of

additonal problems because of her Celtic illness.

Celtic disease is a condition where a person cannot

tolerate any food that contains gluten. There's a

genetic predisposition to it which may have been

triggered by s implant problems.

Are you doing anything - medications or supplements -

while waiting to see the doctors?

If not, I'd suggest trying raw, crushed, fresh garlic.

As many as 12 cloves a day . . . However, start with

one and gradually work your way up. Oil of Oregano or

Olive Leaf oil may help too.

I'd suggest washing the rash with 3% hyrdogen peroxide

to kill any bacteria that may be coming from your

skin.

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

It's celiac disease...also known as gluten intolerance.

(I think Celtic has something to do with the peoples of the British

Isles!)

Just thought I would clarify that!

Thanks Rogene...you are right on top of this with forwarding to

! Have you heard from her?

Patty

>

> ,

>

> A lot of women have had problems getting pregnant, or

> miscarrying while implanted.

>

> No one can tell you how long it will take to be ready

> for a pregnacy after implants. However, I'm confident

> you will know when you're ready.

>

> With motivation like that, I know you will really be

> putting yourself into your program. Hopefully it won't

> take too long.

>

> I'm Bcc'd your message to . Hopefully she will

> get with you on what she's done. She had a lot of

> additonal problems because of her Celtic illness.

> Celtic disease is a condition where a person cannot

> tolerate any food that contains gluten. There's a

> genetic predisposition to it which may have been

> triggered by s implant problems.

>

> Are you doing anything - medications or supplements -

> while waiting to see the doctors?

>

> If not, I'd suggest trying raw, crushed, fresh garlic.

> As many as 12 cloves a day . . . However, start with

> one and gradually work your way up. Oil of Oregano or

> Olive Leaf oil may help too.

>

> I'd suggest washing the rash with 3% hyrdogen peroxide

> to kill any bacteria that may be coming from your

> skin.

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

Patty,

I had a note from following a note I sent her

when she left the group. She said she would be

available if someone needed special support.

I know she's loving being a mother!

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Is total capsulectomy and removing enbloc the same thing???glory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401@...> wrote:

Hi ,We have had one of our ladies go from being extremely ill to explanted and, after going through many months (maybe 2 years?) of healing, she successfully gave birth to a beautiful baby boy in June!Her name is and she recently said goodbye to the group so she could focus on raising her family.I am quite certain that you will be able to have a baby in time, after you have gone through some months of healing and given your body the best chance at recovery, and building itself up for a healthy pregnancy. It might take you some time to feel better again...it took me 4 years to fully heal. Just be patient, and I know how hard that is to do, but you will have to do some detoxification of your body for the best recovery. is not breastfeeding from what I understand, after thinking long

and hard about it. I think she was more concerned about the health of her baby and the exposure to any toxins that may have remained in her breasts. I think it would be preferable to breastfeed, but if you have already made up your mind about it, then that is what is important--you need to be comfortable about it. You will want to make sure you have had a proper explant, including a total capsulectomy. Then, if it were me, I would probably want to wait at least a year until I tried to get pregnant, if not more, just to make sure my health had a good chance to fully recover. The healing process is such a slow one.If you have any more questions, you might want to get in touch with ....she last posted in June, so you can check through the archives to get her address. Hopefully she will respond and have some good tips for you! I do know that she went through alot in her healing process,

including dealing with celiac disease and Hashimoto's thyroid disease, both of which required close monitoring.She was a real trooper and did an outstanding job of taking care of herself.Best wishes!Patty>> Hi ladies I haven't been able to write for a couple days. I have > been getting worse by the minute. I can't believe how much pain I > have in my breast. I have had a really bad rash this entire year. > That was my first problem and it continues to test me. The rash is > so bad right now that it looks like my scar around my nipple is > opening. I asked my husband because it's a little harder for me to > get a good look. He said it just looks like a paper cut over my scar > which is starting to freak me out a little. I'm going to Bethesda in > lang on Wednesday. I hear from a lot of people

that is suppose > to be the best Naval hospital. I'm going to check with the PS there > to see if they will do my explant and do it the way I want it done. > I'm not worried about my insurance because I was already told I'm > covered so that's a little weight off my mind. Money is tight with > the holidays coming and my husband and I just bought our first home > a month ago. Other then all that my real question is about breast > feeding and getting pregnant. I've read about some of you ladies > being pregnant while you still had your implants but have any of you > had a baby since you were explanted. We have been trying for a baby > but stopped as I started to feel worse. I want to be better before I > get pregnant. Once I have the explant done how long until my body > should be able to handle that? I know a lot happens to your breast > once you get pregnant and I'm not

sure if I'll be able to handle > that pain for a while after. I wouldn't even worry about it but > being a military wife I only have my husband home for short periods > of time. He has been given a land station for the next four years > and after that it's back to a boat. I have to use my time while I > have it! I've already made my mind up about breast feeding. I've > just been through to much to even try. I don't know if my breast > will ever be up to that kinda work but on top of that I don't know > if my breast will ever be 100% safe for my baby! Have any of you > breast fed after explant? I would just wait and talk to my doctor > about all my questions but I've already had such good luck with them > I don't know if I'd believe what they say. I want woman who have > been there and know what I'm talking about. When it comes time for > me to have a baby and take care of that baby I

don't want to chance > anything! I took a chance with my own health and look at where I am > now. > Thanks a bunch,> >

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[Guest guest]

Yes and no....they accomplish the same purpose, but through different

means. The goal is to make sure the entire scar capsule is removed.

In an en bloc procedure, the scar tissue is removed with the implant

in one unit (think of an M & M with the candy shell intact around

it). The en bloc is most often used with women who have silicone gel

implants that may have ruptured, so that the scar capsule will contain

all of the contents of the implant and not let any of it spill out.

It is also used for saline implants, in the event there is possible

contamination of the saline fluid and prevention of anything spilling

into the chest cavity is recommended. En bloc is the preferred method

for implant removal, but also requires a larger incision since the

implant is coming out whole.

The total capsulectomy is the procedure where all pieces of the scar

tissue are completely removed, not leaving any pieces behind, whether

or not it is removed at the same time as the implant. Sometimes

doctors will remove some of the scar tissue, such as the anterior

only, leaving the posterior scar capsule behind because it is too hard

to get to, or too risky to remove because of embedding in tissue.

However, leaving a portion of the scar capsule behind leaves a woman

susceptible to continued immune responses and may prevent full

healing. That is why we stress the importance of a total capsulectomy

if the en bloc procedure is not utilized.

Patty

>

> Is total capsulectomy and removing enbloc the same thing???