Guest guest Posted March 16, 1999 Report Share Posted March 16, 1999 << find myself actually looking for things to be wrong with MacKenzie< because they're supposed to be, but they're not, so I guess it works both ways. >> Jeanie, I find myself doing this too. has come a long way since '92. He is very stable and we are moving right along, but sometimes, like the kidney reflux and now his vision, I tend to go overboard, but my thought is, expect the worst and you will most likely be pleased that things aren't so bad. Not the best way to look at life, but it is so hard when I have been blind sided by a diagnoses that I wasn't expecting. Janet Wife to Matt Mom to & (CHaRGEr) 7 on 5/7, nne 2 on 3/27, and Mom to 9 months, and 18 months. Weymouth, Massachusetts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 gee, all these great "off-topic" uses for anti-depressants... I think Paxil was approved by the Federal Dufus Agencey for treatment of panic disorder, but the funny thing is that I never had panic disorder UNTIL I took Paxil!!!! "Blind Reason" a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 It is just so frustrating because these panic attacks seem to have just come out of nowhere, and it's really gotten to me. But this is all very helpful, and at the same time making me very nervous. Dave: In the long run the drugs, especially Paxil, will do you more harm than good. I never had panic disorder UNTIL I took Paxil, and I never had a lot of the other problems I now have until I took it. The entire theory on how and why it works is a complete fraud. You may have temporary relief, but when you decide to get off this drug, you may find yourself in the clutches of the worst addiction imaginable. Paxil is derived from phenylpiperidine, a key component in all opioid medications. I used to joke that Paxil was more addictive than heroin, and then I did the research and found out I was right. In 1980, Paxil was registered as a "hypnotic for human use." It was invented by a Finnish veterinarian. Go to www.SSRICitizen.org and read the Founder's STatement. Rob and I spent many months doing this research, even calling the Holocaust Museum in Germany and digging up records on experiements in the concentration camps. To me, Paxil is little more than some god-awful mind-control experiment with Eugenic overtones, given that many people suffer sexual side effects that never go away. Nobody will ever convince me that this is all an accident. There are so many other ways to deal with panic attacks -- first you have to find out what was causing them (see 's post) and then try to fix the problem by going to the root, not taking a drug that is little more than chemical handcuffs. I wish now that I had listened to my husband when he told me these drugs were right out of Nazi experiments, but I thought he had wigged out and I chose to listen to the b.s. rhetoric spewed by some quack who told me to endure the side effects until the drug kicked in 6 weeks later. There was a 3 days period where they ramped up my dose to 40 mgs, during which time I slept 15 - 18 hours a day, and could not raise myself to consciousness and during the whole time I was thinking, "This is how someone in a coma feels; you know things are happening around you, but you cannot wake up and you cannot scream for help!!" I know that during those 3 days the worst of the damage to my brain occurred, and then when I tried to get off the drug altogether, the withdrawals were so ghastly I can't even begin to describe them. But suffice it to say, my sworn testimony in the first Paxil lawsuit forced GSK to label this poison with "discontinuation syndrome." You've only been on this drug a short time. Think about getting off while you can and before you have done irreparable damage to your body, mind, and soul. "Blind Reason" a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 What did you start taking Paxil for? I had suffered injuries in an auto accident in 1993. My insurance company denied me treatment and I had such a severe shoulder injury that I could no longer work as a pastry chef in the restaurant that I owned. I went to a therapist and begged her to help me get medical treatment so I could function. She told me she didn't believe I was in pain or that I had an injury and that I was really depressed and THOUGHT I was in pain and I really needed an antidepressant not surgery. So I fell for it and promptly went insane. Two years later I had surgery which required a complete shoulder reconstruction and 22 months of rehab to get back use of my arm. I was NOT being treated for a mental disorder, only anxiety about losing the restaurant I had invested over $50,000 in and put my house up as collateral. Was I ever duped by that doctor!!! "Blind Reason" a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Oh Glitter, a salutory tale... And the moral is, don't put doctors on a pedestal and assume they know more than we do about our own bodies, feelings etc.? Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 What did you start taking Paxil for? > In a message dated 10/27/04 10:58:43 PM Mountain Daylight Time, > kitiara@c... writes: > > > > gee, all these great " off-topic " uses for anti-depressants... > > > > > > I think Paxil was approved by the Federal Dufus Agencey for treatment of > panic disorder, but the funny thing is that I never had panic disorder UNTIL I > took Paxil!!!! > > " Blind Reason " > a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue > Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's > Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 I've not heard this before Glitter. May I ask, what ever became to the therapist you went to for help? Does she know what's happened? Also, you wrote " I never had panic disorder UNTIL I took Paxil, and I never had a lot of the other problems I now have until I took it. " I'd like Dave to know that the same holds true for my son, 23 yrs. old, doing alright in life, had some mild depression from personal problems, depression got a little worse, went to the doctor who promptly prescribed paxil...his panic attacks, anxiety, paranoia, all he deals with today began AFTER he started on the posion. I pray Dave will begin discontinuing paxil (with proper guidance) as soon as possible. He's not been on it too long, hopefully there'll not be any permanent damage done. Blessings! Cheryl > In a message dated 10/28/04 10:33:07 AM Mountain Daylight Time, > emfbo1@y... writes: > > > > What did you start taking Paxil for? > > > > I had suffered injuries in an auto accident in 1993. My insurance company > denied me treatment and I had such a severe shoulder injury that I could no > longer work as a pastry chef in the restaurant that I owned. I went to a > therapist and begged her to help me get medical treatment so I could function. She > told me she didn't believe I was in pain or that I had an injury and that I was > really depressed and THOUGHT I was in pain and I really needed an > antidepressant not surgery. So I fell for it and promptly went insane. Two years later I > had surgery which required a complete shoulder reconstruction and 22 months > of rehab to get back use of my arm. I was NOT being treated for a mental > disorder, only anxiety about losing the restaurant I had invested over $50,000 in > and put my house up as collateral. Was I ever duped by that doctor!!! > > " Blind Reason " > a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue > Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's > Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 I was moaning at one of my doctors today, telling him how bad NHS physios were and he said GP's aren't much good either are they? I had to smile!!! Re: Re: Welcome Oh Glitter, a salutory tale... And the moral is, don't put doctors on a pedestal and assume they know more than we do about our own bodies, feelings etc.? MoTo subscribe to the off-topic list go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/socialWandR/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 I pray Dave will begin discontinuing paxil (with proper guidance) as soon as possible. He's not been on it too long, hopefully there'll not be any permanent damage done. I think we will all be praying for this Cheryl, let one soul be saved. Re: Welcome I've not heard this before Glitter. May I ask, what ever became to the therapist you went to for help? Does she know what's happened? Also, you wrote"I never had panic disorder UNTIL I took Paxil, and I never had a lot of the other problems I now have until I took it." I'd like Dave to know that the same holds true for my son, 23 yrs. old, doing alright in life, had some mild depression from personal problems, depression got a little worse, went to the doctor who promptly prescribed paxil...his panic attacks, anxiety, paranoia, all he deals with today began AFTER he started on the posion. I pray Dave will begin discontinuing paxil (with proper guidance) as soon as possible. He's not been on it too long, hopefully there'll not be any permanent damage done. Blessings! Cheryl> In a message dated 10/28/04 10:33:07 AM Mountain Daylight Time, > emfbo1@y... writes:> > > > What did you start taking Paxil for?> > > > I had suffered injuries in an auto accident in 1993. My insurance company > denied me treatment and I had such a severe shoulder injury that I could no > longer work as a pastry chef in the restaurant that I owned. I went to a > therapist and begged her to help me get medical treatment so I could function. She > told me she didn't believe I was in pain or that I had an injury and that I was > really depressed and THOUGHT I was in pain and I really needed an > antidepressant not surgery. So I fell for it and promptly went insane. Two years later I > had surgery which required a complete shoulder reconstruction and 22 months > of rehab to get back use of my arm. I was NOT being treated for a mental > disorder, only anxiety about losing the restaurant I had invested over $50,000 in > and put my house up as collateral. Was I ever duped by that doctor!!! > > "Blind Reason" > a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue> Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's> Unsafe At Any DoseTo subscribe to the off-topic list go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/socialWandR/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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