Re: Fibro Pain:Kenda?Rogene

[Guest guest]

,

I'd suggest reading the book " The Maker's Diet " . . .

It's more than a diet book! Rubin considers it a 40

day plan to health.

It sounds like you're doing everthing else to get

better. It does take time, patience and discipline.

You might find that keeping a journal of what you are

doing and how you feel will help encourage you on

those days when you don't feel you're accomplishing

much!

As far as exercise, since your muscle tone is so poor,

I'd suggest doing some strength building exercises

before you try anything very vigorous. You can find a

line of exercise aids by doing a search for

" Therabands " . My daughter uses them extensively in

Occupational Therapy. They have colors that represent

different strengths.

How does you theraputic massage go? Can the therapist

apply much pressure? Go very deep? Do you experience a

sharp, deep pain when the muscle is stretched that

disappears immediately?

Fibromyalgia goes hand-in-glove with a sleep disorder.

You need to get sufficient deep sleep so your body can

repair tissue damage while you sleep. If your doctor

understands FM, he/she would probably be willing to

try you on some sleep medication like Ambien or

Temazapam.

Also, hot Espom Salt baths can help relieve muscle

pain and relax muscles. I particularly like to take a

hot bath before a massage and an Epsom salt bath

afterwards. People with sensitive skin, poor

circulation or open sores should not take Epsom Salth

baths though.

If you can set aside a short time several times a day

to exercise it may be easier than trying to do it all

at once. Also, doing an exercise very slowly and

purposefully can be as effective as doing more rapid

repetitions. Breath deeply as you exercise.

Hope this helps!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Hi Rogene,

Thanks for your reply. i have been meaning to get "The Makers Diet", as I have heard so many good things about it.

The deep tissue massage really does seem to help. It hurts at first and i am sometimes sore the next day, but I do feel much better the day after that. It seems the deeper the massage the more relief I get, and can now have a massage without having tears in my eyes form the pain.

My new primary care wants me to start swimming twice a week to start building up some muscle tone and I think she will start me on some physical therapy and massage with someone in her office.

What can I expect the Rheumatologist to find? I will see her for the first time the end of this month. My doctor says she is "brilliant" and I get the impression that she understands the implant/illness connection.

I think you are right, I will just have to start slowly with exercise. Should I just work through the pain? In other words should I keep exercising daily even if I get sore and eventually the soreness will go away?

Thanks for your help,

Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

,I'd suggest reading the book "The Maker's Diet" . . .It's more than a diet book! Rubin considers it a 40day plan to health. It sounds like you're doing everthing else to getbetter. It does take time, patience and discipline.You might find that keeping a journal of what you aredoing and how you feel will help encourage you onthose days when you don't feel you're accomplishingmuch!As far as exercise, since your muscle tone is so poor,I'd suggest doing some strength building exercisesbefore you try anything very vigorous. You can find aline of exercise aids by doing a search for"Therabands". My daughter uses them extensively inOccupational Therapy. They have colors that representdifferent strengths. How does you theraputic massage go? Can the therapistapply much pressure? Go very deep? Do

you experience asharp, deep pain when the muscle is stretched thatdisappears immediately? Fibromyalgia goes hand-in-glove with a sleep disorder.You need to get sufficient deep sleep so your body canrepair tissue damage while you sleep. If your doctorunderstands FM, he/she would probably be willing totry you on some sleep medication like Ambien orTemazapam. Also, hot Espom Salt baths can help relieve musclepain and relax muscles. I particularly like to take ahot bath before a massage and an Epsom salt bathafterwards. People with sensitive skin, poorcirculation or open sores should not take Epsom Salthbaths though.If you can set aside a short time several times a dayto exercise it may be easier than trying to do it allat once. Also, doing an exercise very slowly andpurposefully can be as effective as doing more rapidrepetitions. Breath deeply as you exercise.Hope this helps!Hugs and

prayers,Rogene

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Kenda.

Can you tell me about the mini-trampoline? Is it good exercise? How does it

help?That is

something I could do I think.

Thank you.

> > ,

> >

> > It sounds like you are getting really good massages!

> > The doctor who DX'd me said that was the best

> > therapy

> > I could get! If you'll get a doctor's prescription

> > for

> > theraputic massage, you can at least take it off

> > your

> > income tax!

> >

> > There's a difference between excercising with pain

> > and

> > being sore afterwards. When your muscles are so very

> > tight, yet weak, you could get hurt if you go at it

> > too vigorously. Work on stretching your muscles and

> > building strength. Swimming pool exercise is

> > wonderful! There's a difference between swimming and

> > water aerobics though . . . Water aerobics will

> > target

> > more muscles - if done right.

> >

> > Physical therapy can be great - depending on your

> > therapist. I hate it when they ask me what I think I

> > should do! Duh! If I knew that, I'd stay at home and

> > do it!

> >

> > I'm afraid physical therapists don't have time to

> > give

> > good massages though! They should give you a sheet

> > of

> > instructions for exercises to do at home. Doing

> > these

> > reguarly will help speed you along signficantly.

> >

> > You might swap notes with Molly. She's beginning an

> > exercise program too.

> >

> > It's very important to get deep sleep! . . . In one

> > study, they found they could induce FM symptoms in

> > anyone by depriving them of sleep long enough!

> >

> > Hugs and prayers,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> > of advice given by licensed health care

> > professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> > health care professional before commencing any

> > medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> > politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts

> > are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> > happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

> > Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

> > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Molly,

I don't know much about using a mini-trampoline. A massage therapist I saw

a few times recommended I try one so I did for a short while. It is

supposed to help lymph drainage. I didn't notice any difference but that

doesn't mean it didn't help. It's a tiny trampoline you jump on. She told

me to put on some fast music and go for it. You could use it instead of

walking, if you prefer working out indoors.

Kenda

>

> Kenda.

> Can you tell me about the mini-trampoline? Is it good exercise? How does it

> help?That is

> something I could do I think.

> Thank you.

>

>

>>> ,

>>>

>>> It sounds like you are getting really good massages!

>>> The doctor who DX'd me said that was the best

>>> therapy

>>> I could get! If you'll get a doctor's prescription

>>> for

>>> theraputic massage, you can at least take it off

>>> your

>>> income tax!

>>>

>>> There's a difference between excercising with pain

>>> and

>>> being sore afterwards. When your muscles are so very

>>> tight, yet weak, you could get hurt if you go at it

>>> too vigorously. Work on stretching your muscles and

>>> building strength. Swimming pool exercise is

>>> wonderful! There's a difference between swimming and

>>> water aerobics though . . . Water aerobics will

>>> target

>>> more muscles - if done right.

>>>

>>> Physical therapy can be great - depending on your

>>> therapist. I hate it when they ask me what I think I

>>> should do! Duh! If I knew that, I'd stay at home and

>>> do it!

>>>

>>> I'm afraid physical therapists don't have time to

>>> give

>>> good massages though! They should give you a sheet

>>> of

>>> instructions for exercises to do at home. Doing

>>> these

>>> reguarly will help speed you along signficantly.

>>>

>>> You might swap notes with Molly. She's beginning an

>>> exercise program too.

>>>

>>> It's very important to get deep sleep! . . . In one

>>> study, they found they could induce FM symptoms in

>>> anyone by depriving them of sleep long enough!

>>>

>>> Hugs and prayers,

>>>

>>> Rogene

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

>>> of advice given by licensed health care

>>> professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

>>> health care professional before commencing any

>>> medical treatment.

>>>

>>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

>>> politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts

>>> are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

>>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

>>> Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

>>> Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>>>

>>>

[Guest guest]

We've posted several good links in the past regarding these mini-

trampolines. I think they are a great idea, and very easy!

Here are a few to check out:

http://www.starbounding.com/35_lymphatics.htm

http://www.sundancerebounders.com/md.htm

http://www.fourwinds10.com/news/06-health/D-holistic/2003/06D-04-06-

03-benefits-of-mini-trampoline.html

> > > ,

> > >

> > > It sounds like you are getting really good massages!

> > > The doctor who DX'd me said that was the best

> > > therapy

> > > I could get! If you'll get a doctor's prescription

> > > for

> > > theraputic massage, you can at least take it off

> > > your

> > > income tax!

> > >

> > > There's a difference between excercising with pain

> > > and

> > > being sore afterwards. When your muscles are so very

> > > tight, yet weak, you could get hurt if you go at it

> > > too vigorously. Work on stretching your muscles and

> > > building strength. Swimming pool exercise is

> > > wonderful! There's a difference between swimming and

> > > water aerobics though . . . Water aerobics will

> > > target

> > > more muscles - if done right.

> > >

> > > Physical therapy can be great - depending on your

> > > therapist. I hate it when they ask me what I think I

> > > should do! Duh! If I knew that, I'd stay at home and

> > > do it!

> > >

> > > I'm afraid physical therapists don't have time to

> > > give

> > > good massages though! They should give you a sheet

> > > of

> > > instructions for exercises to do at home. Doing

> > > these

> > > reguarly will help speed you along signficantly.

> > >

> > > You might swap notes with Molly. She's beginning an

> > > exercise program too.

> > >

> > > It's very important to get deep sleep! . . . In one

> > > study, they found they could induce FM symptoms in

> > > anyone by depriving them of sleep long enough!

> > >

> > > Hugs and prayers,

> > >

> > > Rogene

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> > > of advice given by licensed health care

> > > professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> > > health care professional before commencing any

> > > medical treatment.

> > >

> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> > > politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts

> > > are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> > > happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

> > > Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

> > > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Thanks!

> > > > ,

> > > >

> > > > It sounds like you are getting really good massages!

> > > > The doctor who DX'd me said that was the best

> > > > therapy

> > > > I could get! If you'll get a doctor's prescription

> > > > for

> > > > theraputic massage, you can at least take it off

> > > > your

> > > > income tax!

> > > >

> > > > There's a difference between excercising with pain

> > > > and

> > > > being sore afterwards. When your muscles are so very

> > > > tight, yet weak, you could get hurt if you go at it

> > > > too vigorously. Work on stretching your muscles and

> > > > building strength. Swimming pool exercise is

> > > > wonderful! There's a difference between swimming and

> > > > water aerobics though . . . Water aerobics will

> > > > target

> > > > more muscles - if done right.

> > > >

> > > > Physical therapy can be great - depending on your

> > > > therapist. I hate it when they ask me what I think I

> > > > should do! Duh! If I knew that, I'd stay at home and

> > > > do it!

> > > >

> > > > I'm afraid physical therapists don't have time to

> > > > give

> > > > good massages though! They should give you a sheet

> > > > of

> > > > instructions for exercises to do at home. Doing

> > > > these

> > > > reguarly will help speed you along signficantly.

> > > >

> > > > You might swap notes with Molly. She's beginning an

> > > > exercise program too.

> > > >

> > > > It's very important to get deep sleep! . . . In one

> > > > study, they found they could induce FM symptoms in

> > > > anyone by depriving them of sleep long enough!

> > > >

> > > > Hugs and prayers,

> > > >

> > > > Rogene

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> > > > of advice given by licensed health care

> > > > professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> > > > health care professional before commencing any

> > > > medical treatment.

> > > >

> > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> > > > politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts

> > > > are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> > > > happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

> > > > Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

> > > > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi -

THanks...What I need to do is to get to the point that I use my gym again!

And get in the pool.

;-)

> >>> ,

> >>>

> >>> It sounds like you are getting really good massages!

> >>> The doctor who DX'd me said that was the best

> >>> therapy

> >>> I could get! If you'll get a doctor's prescription

> >>> for

> >>> theraputic massage, you can at least take it off

> >>> your

> >>> income tax!

> >>>

> >>> There's a difference between excercising with pain

> >>> and

> >>> being sore afterwards. When your muscles are so very

> >>> tight, yet weak, you could get hurt if you go at it

> >>> too vigorously. Work on stretching your muscles and

> >>> building strength. Swimming pool exercise is

> >>> wonderful! There's a difference between swimming and

> >>> water aerobics though . . . Water aerobics will

> >>> target

> >>> more muscles - if done right.

> >>>

> >>> Physical therapy can be great - depending on your

> >>> therapist. I hate it when they ask me what I think I

> >>> should do! Duh! If I knew that, I'd stay at home and

> >>> do it!

> >>>

> >>> I'm afraid physical therapists don't have time to

> >>> give

> >>> good massages though! They should give you a sheet

> >>> of

> >>> instructions for exercises to do at home. Doing

> >>> these

> >>> reguarly will help speed you along signficantly.

> >>>

> >>> You might swap notes with Molly. She's beginning an

> >>> exercise program too.

> >>>

> >>> It's very important to get deep sleep! . . . In one

> >>> study, they found they could induce FM symptoms in

> >>> anyone by depriving them of sleep long enough!

> >>>

> >>> Hugs and prayers,

> >>>

> >>> Rogene

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> >>> of advice given by licensed health care

> >>> professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> >>> health care professional before commencing any

> >>> medical treatment.

> >>>

> >>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> >>> politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts

> >>> are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> >>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

> >>> Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

> >>> Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >>>

> >>>