Re: maybe someone can help me

[Guest guest]

Hello and welcome. There is not a single test that you can do to

prove that your implants are the cause. I can tell you that it is

not at all uncommon or surprising that your PS won't see you or

discuss this issue. Since you say that you have 9 out of 10 symptoms

on the humantics list, then the chances are it is the implants. The

only way you will know for sure is to have them removed. There is

not one reason I can think of to keep them in! I had mine for 11

years and was explanted 3 months ago. I am just now beginning to

really feel what a difference it is living without implants that

made me deathly ill everyday. I finally have my life back.

There are wonderful resources in the files section of this group. I

suggest that you try to make an appointment with one of the doctors

listed there. If there isn't one near you, you can call Dr. Feng's

office in Cleveland and speak with . She is extremely

knowledgeable about implanted women, and is happy to talk about your

symptoms and the probable causes.

Best wishes,

[Guest guest]

> Hello and welcome. There is not a single test that you can do to

> prove that your implants are the cause. I can tell you that it is

> not at all uncommon or surprising that your PS won't see you or

> discuss this issue. Since you say that you have 9 out of 10

symptoms

> on the humantics list, then the chances are it is the implants.

The

> only way you will know for sure is to have them removed. There is

> not one reason I can think of to keep them in! I had mine for 11

> years and was explanted 3 months ago. I am just now beginning to

> really feel what a difference it is living without implants that

> made me deathly ill everyday. I finally have my life back.

>

> There are wonderful resources in the files section of this group.

I

> suggest that you try to make an appointment with one of the

doctors

> listed there. If there isn't one near you, you can call Dr. Feng's

> office in Cleveland and speak with . She is extremely

> knowledgeable about implanted women, and is happy to talk about

your

> symptoms and the probable causes.

>

> Best wishes,

>

Thank you for getting back to me so fast. This whole thing has just

happened so fast, yet been going on for so long. It has just

clicked that these maybe the problem after being tested to see if I

was a diabetic and that coming back negative and now going tomarrow

for an ultrasound on my liver and kidneys. Do you know if the

implants would cause platinium to show up in your urine test? I

should have just had these things taken out 2 years ago when I first

had them in and kept rejecting them then. I guess that not only is

my head in a fog from not feeling well along with alot of other

things but now I feel like I am spinning because of something that I

have wanted eversince I was a little girl (every little girl dreams

of having boobs, even my 4 year old), getting a short taste of them

and then go through the hell of rejection and multiple surgeries

trying to keep them in, to finally have them heal (my last surgery

was in Dec.) and now learn that they are probabily what is making me

so ill. I guess the man upstairs is just trying to tell us all that

he created us the way he wanted us to be and not to mess with him!

Anyways thanks again and I guess I will try some of these doctors.

There is noway in hell I will be going back to my plastic surgeon.

O'Day

27 yrs old

Branson Missouri

[Guest guest]

Dear,

I'm so sorry you're having problems too! . . .

The only way you'll know for sure if it's your

implants is to have them removed. The good news is

that your chances of getting better after explant is

excellent.

Rheumatologists and plastic surgeons are the worst

about admiting problems from implants. . . If you'll

tell us where you live, perhaps someone can recommend

a knowledgable doctor to you.

Not all of us have the same symptoms . . . some

women's symptoms are comparitively mild, while others

are severe.

Some implants are contaminated when they are put in .

.. . others leak and become contaminated as they age.

Dr. Blais in Canada has found an incredible number of

bad organisms in implants and capsules sent to him.

While you're considering what to do, please consider

reading " The Maker's Diet " Rubin . . . It's more than

a diet book. We have a list of suggested detox

programs and recommended doctors. You might find some

help there.

If you have any questions, ask away. We have some

wonderful ladies here who want to help!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

you're not alone - I am in pretty much the same position. I have been

sick for over 5 years, thinking I had fibromyalgia and now arthritis.

I feel like I have no chance of getting well unless I get them out. My

surgery is tentatively scheduled for October 19th. I'm a little

worried about how I will feel about myself being very small again, but

most of all, I can't wait to start the healing process. I don't have a

success story for you (YET), but I wanted to let you know that I

understand what you are going through. I'll pray for you.

Cherie

> I need HELP!!! I am new to this site and really need some help from

> someone. I think I am sick because of my saline implants. I have

> read alot of the ladies' storys from the Humantics Foundation site

and

> have 9 out of 10 symptoms talked about. I keep getting the run

around

> from Doctors as to what is wrong and the plastic surgon who did the

> operation won't see me or talk to me and told his nurse to tell me to

> go to a Rheumatologist. Is there some kind of blood test or just any

> test that my family doctor could do? I am about 99% sure that it is

> my implants. I just really need help from someone. I am at a loss!

[Guest guest]

,

Yes, platinum can show up in tests . . . Not only in

an implanted woman, but their children . . . Ionized

platinum is an extremely potent neurotoxin!

The fact that they are implanting women of child

bearing age and not warning them that it could affect

the health of their children is criminal!

Some of illnesses the children suffer from are the

making of nightmares!

Hug and prayers,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Hi. And welcome to our group. It does sound like your implants are

causing your illness and your problems with getting implanted sound

like your body did indeed not want them. Don't beat yourself up

about getting them. If anyone had told you that you could get sick

like this from these things you wouldn't have gotten them. But

doctors keep touting them as perfectly harmless. I can't tell you

how many people were told " Its just saline, and saline is natural to

your body. Even if they rupture, it wouldn't hurt you. " Yea,

right. I also got very sick from my saline implants. I thought I

was dying. I have had mine out four years now, and some symptoms

went away really quickly. Others I have had to do alot of detoxing

and cleansing and changing of diet, etc. but it has been worth it.

I have made good improvement and have my life back. You are right

not to go back to the idiot ps that put them in. We have some good

recommendations on this site and alot of info in our files

sections. Please feel free to ask any questions you might have.

This group is wonderful for support, information, and sharing every

step of the way. Did you have platinum in your urine? Implants can

have platinum in the shells. I would think that is definitely a sign

the implants have affected you. I am glad that you have finally

discovered that your implants are affecting you. Please don't let

any doctor tell you that they are not. Most of us here have heard

that and it simply isn't true. It really is important to find a PS

that believes that implants cause illness and who will take them out

properly ---removing the implant intact along with the capsule the

body forms around it. What other symptoms do you have?

Hugs, kathy

> > Hello and welcome. There is not a single test that you can do to

> > prove that your implants are the cause. I can tell you that it

is

> > not at all uncommon or surprising that your PS won't see you or

> > discuss this issue. Since you say that you have 9 out of 10

> symptoms

> > on the humantics list, then the chances are it is the implants.

> The

> > only way you will know for sure is to have them removed. There

is

> > not one reason I can think of to keep them in! I had mine for 11

> > years and was explanted 3 months ago. I am just now beginning to

> > really feel what a difference it is living without implants that

> > made me deathly ill everyday. I finally have my life back.

> >

> > There are wonderful resources in the files section of this

group.

> I

> > suggest that you try to make an appointment with one of the

> doctors

> > listed there. If there isn't one near you, you can call Dr.

Feng's

> > office in Cleveland and speak with . She is extremely

> > knowledgeable about implanted women, and is happy to talk about

> your

> > symptoms and the probable causes.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

>

>

> Thank you for getting back to me so fast. This whole thing has

just

> happened so fast, yet been going on for so long. It has just

> clicked that these maybe the problem after being tested to see if

I

> was a diabetic and that coming back negative and now going

tomarrow

> for an ultrasound on my liver and kidneys. Do you know if the

> implants would cause platinium to show up in your urine test? I

> should have just had these things taken out 2 years ago when I

first

> had them in and kept rejecting them then. I guess that not only

is

> my head in a fog from not feeling well along with alot of other

> things but now I feel like I am spinning because of something that

I

> have wanted eversince I was a little girl (every little girl

dreams

> of having boobs, even my 4 year old), getting a short taste of

them

> and then go through the hell of rejection and multiple surgeries

> trying to keep them in, to finally have them heal (my last surgery

> was in Dec.) and now learn that they are probabily what is making

me

> so ill. I guess the man upstairs is just trying to tell us all

that

> he created us the way he wanted us to be and not to mess with him!

> Anyways thanks again and I guess I will try some of these

doctors.

> There is noway in hell I will be going back to my plastic surgeon.

> O'Day

> 27 yrs old

> Branson Missouri

[Guest guest]

WElcome to our group,

Of course, we wish you didn't have to be here, but it does sound like

you are reacting badly to your implants. The symptoms are pretty

telling, as you have found through your reading. As for testing,

there are tests for autoimmune conditions that can be done by a family

doctor. However, these tests are not going to point to the implants

as a cause. They can only tell you if there is an autoimmune

condition developing. And for some of us, that is not welcome news.

I delayed going to a rheumatologist, because I really didn't want to

know if I had a disease or not. I was too scared. But I did go, and

I did end up with an elevated rheumatoid factor, a lowered C3

Complement, and macrocytosis. Do you know what the doctor said? He

said, " you're all better, you don't need to see me anymore. "

REgarding the C3 complement results, he said, " lab error. " Obviously,

he didn't want to deal with this.

After that experience, I took the natural route. I went to alternative

practioners who knew that implants were dangerous, and decided to

stick with safe, natural therapies and let my body find its way back

to health. It was the best thing I ever did.

One thing I want to point out, which Rogene has also discussed

previously, is that going to doctors and getting tests and collecting

diagnosis of disease really doesn't help. It ultimately does us more

harm than good. The reason? It puts black marks all over your

medical records, which then jacks up your rates if you end up having

to get your own insurance, (which I had to do) or can even prevent you

from getting other insurances, (like life insurance as Shari found

out). Getting test results of treatable autoimmune diseases like

Hashimoto's can be helpful, so I don't want to say forget testing, but

I do want to point out that many autoimmune diseases have no effective

treatment other than reducing symptoms with toxic steroids. These can

leave you worse off than before, and in fact, Dr. Weil states

that toxic steroid drugs can reduce your chances of healing through

natural therapies.

The best treatment for most autoimmune conditions is to detoxify the

body. There are many testimonies out there of people who have cured or

controlled lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, scleroderma and other

dangerous diseases through detoxification and healthy lifestyle

changes. That is what I did, and that is what I considered to have

cured me. No tests acurately diagnosed me, except for the Hashimoto's

test, and no drugs have cured me. It took 4 years for my Hashimoto's

to show up on tests, but I was healing before that time through

natural healing methods.....things like fasting, colon cleansing,

enemas, sauna therapy, ozone therapy, and changing my eating habits to

exclude processed foods and include supplements that reduced my viral

and fungal loads.

It all begins with US. We have to take charge of our own health.

Doctors have to fall off of the pedestal we put them on, because they

ultimately refuse to look for the right answers concerning implant

associated illnesses.

Patty

> I need HELP!!! I am new to this site and really need some help from

> someone. I think I am sick because of my saline implants. I have

> read alot of the ladies' storys from the Humantics Foundation site

and

> have 9 out of 10 symptoms talked about. I keep getting the run

around

> from Doctors as to what is wrong and the plastic surgon who did the

> operation won't see me or talk to me and told his nurse to tell me

to

> go to a Rheumatologist. Is there some kind of blood test or just

any

> test that my family doctor could do? I am about 99% sure that it is

> my implants. I just really need help from someone. I am at a loss!