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Forgot to mention you can get a FREE trial issue.

http://www.diabetes-self-mgmt.com/free_trial.html

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, don't be nervous until you hear what Dr. Levin says. I bet it will

be alright.

You are very cute.

Webberly

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> Amy

> after reading your question I ran and got my post operative report

and

> mine says Laparoscopic bilateral tubal litigation. Would Dr Levin tell me

> what this means?

> Also it says the right tube was picked up with the waters cautery and

> completely transected through in two positions. and the same done with the

> left. Good grief it sounds like nothing was left or if it was it was all

> burned up.

> Nervous as a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs,

>

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I had my tr 4-12-01 and appeared to be doing fine until i contact Dr Levin

and told him of passing mucus as a stool and developed this pain in back and

side had a second surgery 5-9-01 after having severe pain not being able to

sleep at night primary doctor did a ultrasound and discovered a pus sack

pressing against my bowel

but thank God all is well NOW

annette

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,

It's okay. Those thoughts have crossed my mind but I love him and he

is a very good man. It just occurred to me that Father's day is

coming up on Sunday and it is going to be very hard for him to get

through the day. My children's father is still around so I think

maybe he feels a little left out. Not sure.

Nina

> Nina, I'm sorry if I sounded alittle harsh. I know its not easy to

end a

> relationship and your DH is probably a good and decent man. I

think he may

> need some counseling for the tragedy that happened to him.

>

> I wish you both the best of luck.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Nina, Maybe you can make Fathers Day special for him in some wonderful way.

I hope everything works out for you. You sound like a very lovely girl.

[Guest guest]

Elda, Good luck on your TR!!

I am going to have mine in a few weeks!! Cant wait.

Wend W.

[Guest guest]

Wendi,

This is Moe could you please email me personally or let me know if you

mind if I email you personally. I wanted to ask you something.

love to you,

moe

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> Elda, Good luck on your TR!!

>

> I am going to have mine in a few weeks!! Cant wait.

>

>

> Wend W.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

HI Moe, yes, e mail me, I always love to hear from any of you ladies. Its

my pleasure!!!

[Guest guest]

I think those wonderful female hormones promote water retention.

Isn't it fabulous being a woman?

Phipps

> This is weird. I'm six weeks pregnant and my jeans are already to

tight. I

> have some jeans that I can't even get zipped. I don't remember

getting like

> this before.

> Any comments would be helpful.

>

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,

Thanks. It isn't all that bad. My doc told me today I'm 7 weeks pg. I know

it isn't how big the baby is just I'm a small woman, Well I used to be. I'm

5'2 " and used to weigh about 110. I work at a factor. I'm a mechanic.

Needless to say muscle ways more. so I weigh about 20 lbs more than that. I

just about fainted when I climbed on the scales to day and I weighed 4 lbs

more than before I got pg. Looks like this just might be another big baby.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/17/2001 7:17:07 AM Central Daylight Time,

rnc521998@... writes:

<< Cynarra >>

Yes, you are just a few weeks behind me. I've never had a buddy to enjoy

comparing notes and bellies with before.

let me know when you can't et your pants zipped. At least I will have someone

to laugh with me.

[Guest guest]

I am a little over 4000 short right now but still working on it

Margaret

mother is 5 wonderful children

2 girls: Beth 14, Tiffanni 11

3 boys: Kristain 7, 5, & Hunter 4

DH is Big Mike

TL 6-23-97

TR up in the air till I get a Green light to do it

WE GOT A GREEN LIGHT!!!! No all we need is the $$$$

[Guest guest]

they had brothels with two way mirrors where they

would give people lsd to see what happened. they even gave enough to

their own agent and it killed him. this was back in the 60s. i

believe that lsd was actually created for the CIA's mind control

project

It was actually in the early 50's that they started picking up where the Nazis left off. If you've ever seen the movie The Manchurian Candidate you will understand what the CIA was trying to do -- and that was to create a programmable killer. They wanted to use drugs to alter a person's mind so they would commit acts that would normally go against a person's conscience. Olsen was dosed with LSD after which he took a flying lesson out the 10th floor of the Statler Hotel in NY. The recently declassified assassination manual of the CIA suggests that victims be tossed from at least the 10th floor insuring their death. So it was no accident that they were on the 10th floor. There was a huge cover-up for more than 25 years, until the Senate committee hearings revealed just what the CIA was up to with their black projects. They eventually gave 's family $700,000 in reparation for having "killed" him. Seems to me that the SSRIs are the very drugs the CIA was seeking for the past 50 years.

Blind Reason

a novel of espionage and pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again.

An army of sheep led by a lion would

defeat an army of lions led by a sheep.

- Oriental proverb

[Guest guest]

the Uni-bomber over here, but he was a

volunteer in the CIA's mk ultra project from 1958 -1962

Yep! He was an LSD guinea pig.

Blind Reason

a novel of espionage and pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again.

An army of sheep led by a lion would

defeat an army of lions led by a sheep.

- Oriental proverb

[Guest guest]

I just had a problem with obsession. but when i read that article i

decided to do a little more research and found that obsessiveness in

love is related to low serotonin levels.

I also know that i have low serotonin levels. well i think i know i

do. I didn't post this on the group but i tried st. johns wort

300mgs which is 1/3 the normal dose, and i felt like i was radiating

warmth. i couldn't remember feelings that good before.

i decided to stop because 1) i was changin my diet at the time, and

wanted to see if that would make me feel better, and 2) cuz i don't

really wanna have to take something for the rest of my life.

, im wondering if ginko biloba could be lowering serotonin,

i know you've said that its a vassoconstrictor or something and that

it keeps serotonin lower in the brain.

while i was on prozac i was not like this at all. when i had a g/f

on prozac. i would see her once a weekend and then not even think

about her the rest of the week.

when she broke up with me, this was my first g/f, i was upset for

about a day.

i believe serotonin has very powerful pain killing abilities.

i'm just hoping things get back to normal soon, but hey depression is

normall for people with lifepath 11 right?

i have a friend who is also an 11 who has had depression and anxiety

most of his life, but he actually accepts this. the ups and downs,

im kinda starting to see things this way too. also he can control

this with meditation and breathing exercises.

that kinda rambled on

-joe

>

> Have you found yourself less able to connect with emotional

feelings

> of love?

>

>

> How about others here? Everyone jump in here and tell us your

> experience.

>

> Regards,

>

[Guest guest]

The C.I.A. had a mind control project called MK ULTRA which

eventually came before the senate and was condemned. they had a

doctor in canada who had previously been the head of the american

psychiatric association using electroshock therapy on patients, to

see what happened. they had brothels with two way mirrors where they

would give people lsd to see what happened. they even gave enough to

their own agent and it killed him. this was back in the 60s. i

believe that lsd was actually created for the CIA's mind control

project. i have yet to see the CIA do ANYTHING good yet.

> > In a message dated 5/8/04 3:03:48 PM Mountain Daylight Time,

> > ccreel@r... writes:

> >

> >

> > > Have you found yourself less able to connect with emotional

> feelings

> > > of love?

> > >

> > >

> > > How about others here? Everyone jump in here and tell us

> your

> > > experience

> >

> > That's why this concept interests me. I know intellectually that

> I love my

> > husband, but I simply have never felt those emotion " bonds " (to

> anyone) since

> > I've taken Paxil. It's as though the switch was turned off in my

> brain.

> > That was why I wrote about this phenomenon in Blind Reason, even

> though in the

> > years that I was writing this information was not available, but

I

> used this as

> > a way for our government to create programmable killers -- people

> without any

> > human connection to another person.

> > Blind Reason

> > a novel of espionage and pharmaceutical intrigue

> > Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again.

> >

> >

> > An army of sheep led by a lion would

> > defeat an army of lions led by a sheep.

> > - Oriental proverb

[Guest guest]

oh jeremy,

i don't know if you remember the Uni-bomber over here, but he was a

volunteer in the CIA's mk ultra project from 1958 -1962

-joe

> > In a message dated 5/8/04 3:03:48 PM Mountain Daylight Time,

> > ccreel@r... writes:

> >

> >

> > > Have you found yourself less able to connect with emotional

> feelings

> > > of love?

> > >

> > >

> > > How about others here? Everyone jump in here and tell us

> your

> > > experience

> >

> > That's why this concept interests me. I know intellectually that

> I love my

> > husband, but I simply have never felt those emotion " bonds " (to

> anyone) since

> > I've taken Paxil. It's as though the switch was turned off in my

> brain.

> > That was why I wrote about this phenomenon in Blind Reason, even

> though in the

> > years that I was writing this information was not available, but

I

> used this as

> > a way for our government to create programmable killers -- people

> without any

> > human connection to another person.

> > Blind Reason

> > a novel of espionage and pharmaceutical intrigue

> > Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again.

> >

> >

> > An army of sheep led by a lion would

> > defeat an army of lions led by a sheep.

> > - Oriental proverb

[Guest guest]

Dear Joe,

You said:

<<, im wondering if ginko biloba could be lowering serotonin,

i know you've said that its a vassoconstrictor or something and that

it keeps serotonin lower in the brain. >>

** It's not a vasoconstrictor but serotonin is. Ginkgo is just the

opposite. Yes, it does reduce circulating serotonin.

Regards,

[Guest guest]

Dear Mo:

This should be a no-brainer for your doctor. It's common knowledge that these drugs are stored in various parts of the body, especially fat cells, and I've heard that drugs such as Valium is even stored in bone marrow. Perhaps has some "document" that might educate him, but it seems to be elementary. Perhaps tackling the weight issues through diet would be more beneficial than the exercise program at the moment. I know so many people who simply cannot do strenuous exercise after taking these drugs without experiencing some adverse effect. Sorry you are having such a rough time.

Blind Reason

a novel of espionage and pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again.

An army of sheep led by a lion would

defeat an army of lions led by a sheep.

- Oriental proverb

[Guest guest]

Dear Mo,

You said:

<<I omitted to give full details about the background to the present cut. I

cut by 25 per cent of a 1 ml doze of Prozit (liquid Prozac - don't know if

has the same name in your neck of the woods?) 11/12 days ago. First week

symptoms were mostly physical - insomnia, flu-like stuff and then after a

week depression has set in which is the worst symptom I feel. It is like I

can bear anything, just, but that... I am taking a calc/mag/zinc dose twice

a day containing 3 tablets with 333.3 mg in each of the calcium tablets,

133/3 mg in the Mag and 8.3 mg in the zinc (because I suspect pyroluria).

Fish oils I am taking 5 grams a day.>>

** As I've mentioned before, a 25% cut is too big. The things you are

experiencing are not unusual considering this. The best thing you can do is

raise your dose a little and take it much slower from here. I believe the

other day I recommended asking the pharmacist for a smaller syringe.

Regards,

[Guest guest]

<<I went to the homeopathyovernight website and i cannot find the product

called calm and sleep. I wanted to read about it and maybe purchase it for

myself..I saw something that said insomnia/anxiety--sleep, is that what you

were talking about? It's $7.65? If not can you give the direct link to the

correct page for the calm and sleep. I haven't slept for more then 20 min.

at a time for almost 2 weeks, and I wanted to see if something could help

me. I know I need to sleep in order for my body to heal. I am 3 1/2 months

post paxil, after a slow weaning>>

** The website uses Java script for its products. This prevents giving

a direct link. I did searches using Sleep and then Calm. It pulled up the

appropriate remedies.

C

[Guest guest]

Dear Pete,

You said:

<<

Has anyone here successfully weaned off Valium or are aware of how to do so?

I am taking 2.5mgs two timer per day at 9 AM and 3 PM and 7.5mgs at 10 PM.

At what rate would you suggest I wean per dose and what supplements should I

take to help with the horrible withdrawals?>>

** No more than 10% at a time. This means 5% from each time you take

it.

Stay at those levels until you feel stable again.

You said:

<<What do you suggest for side effects I have for: brain shocks or

electrical shocks in the brain shooting through my body, cold/stinging hands

and feet, memory problems, fogged brain, indigestion and constipation,

fatigue, depression? Would eating a vegetarian diet be better for me? I

would appreciate a response ASAP. Any advice on the above would help.

Thanking you in advance. >>

** Nothing is going to take away all of these things. Some of it is

necessary. This is your brain chemistry malfunctioning because the drugs

altered it so.

My recommendations are a good sound nutritional protocol as outlined in

the basic protocol, the things I posted recently for neuropathy (you can use

it as a search term at the Yahoo site), Aconitum Napellus30C for panic

attacks, extreme fatigue with foggy brain and often accompanied by poor

digestion - Carbo Vegetabilis30C (both of these are homeopathic remedies and

should be taken 2 pellets under the tongue as needed. If you do this it is

important to let me know the changes you get from them), fish oil, and yes,

the HY-C and the other Chinese remedy. As far as doses go, you could try

decreasing them on the Chinese remedies but they may not be effective.

Unfortunately, it does cost some money to address these things. There's not

much that can be done about that. In some cases, people are used to using

their insurance for everything and balk at paying out-of-pocket. I suggest

that people overcome this quickly if they want a fuller, faster recovery.

In most cases, people are able to find other areas where perhaps they can

cut their budgets in order to do this for themselves.

No, a vegetarian diet would not be better. You need protein and animal

fat for your brain to heal.

As far as the depression goes, nutrients help but most helpful is a

determined and hopeful attitude, some righteous anger, people who you can

talk to when you feel like you can't go on, and a plan for the future.

Regards,

[Guest guest]

Hello All,

This description of how it is for the average HCV patient came to me as a post from the moderator of the international HCV support group that I belong to.

It seemed to put into words what often I cannot and so I thought in the interests of HCV awareness I would pass it on to you so you may know more and hopefully understand more of what life is like for me and people like me with the disease.

All the best

Mairin Osborne

Here you go

Letter to People Without Hepatitis

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Having Hepatitis means many things change, and a lot of them are invisible.Unlike having cancer or being hurt in an accident, most people do notunderstand even a little about HCV and its effects, and of those that thinkthey know, many are actually mis-informed. In the spirit of informing thosewho wish to understand ... These are the things that I would like you tounderstand about me before you judge me... Please understand that being sickdoesn't mean I'm not still a human being. I have to spend most of my day inconsiderable pain and exhaustion, and if you visit I probably don't seemlike much fun to be with, but I'm still me stuck inside this body. I stillworry about life and work and my family and friends, and most of the timeI'd still like to hear you talk about yours too.

Please understand the difference between "happy" and "healthy". When you'vegot the flu you probably feel miserable with it, but I've been sick foryears. I can't be miserable all the time, in fact I work hard at not beingmiserable. So if you're talking to me and I sound happy, it means I'm happy.That's all. It doesn't mean that I'm not in a lot of pain, or extremelytired, or that I'm getting better, or any of those things. Please, don'tsay, "Oh, you're sounding better!". I am not sounding better, I am soundinghappy. If you want to comment on that, you're welcome.

Please understand that being able to stand up for ten minutes, doesn'tnecessarily mean that I can stand up for twenty minutes, or an hour. And,just because I managed to stand up for thirty minutes yesterday doesn't meanthat I can do the same today. With a lot of diseases you're eitherparalyzed, or you can move. With this one it gets more confusing.

Please repeat the above paragraph substituting, "sitting", "walking","thinking", "being sociable" and so on ... it applies to everything. That'swhat Hepatitis does to you. Please understand that HCV or HBV is variable.It's quite possible (for me, it's common) that one day I am able to walk tothe park and back, while the next day I'll have trouble getting to thekitchen. Please don't attack me when I'm ill by saying, "But you did itbefore!", if you want me to do something then ask if I can. In a similarvein, I may need to cancel an invitation at the last minute, if this happensplease do not take it personally. Please understand that "getting out anddoing things" does not make me feel better. Telling me that I need atreadmill, or that I just need to loose (or gain)weight, get this exercisemachine, join this gym, try these classes... may frustrate me to tears, andis not correct... if I was capable of doing these things, don't you knowthat I would? I am working with my doctor and physical therapist and amalready doing the excercise and diet that I am suppose to do. Anotherstatement that hurts is, "You just need to push yourself more, exerciseharder..." Obviously HCV deals directly with muscles, and because ourmuscles don't repair themselves the way your muscles do, this does far moredamage than good and could result in recovery time in days or weeks ormonths from a single activity. Also, Hepatitis may cause secondarydepression (wouldn't you get depressed if you were hurting and exhausted foryears on end!?) but it is not created by depression. Please understand thatif I say I have to sit down/lie down/take these pills now, that I do haveto do it right now - it can't be put off or forgotten just because I'm outfor the day (or whatever). Hepatitis does not forgive.

If you want to suggest a cure to me, don't. It's not because I don'tappreciate the thought, and it's not because I don't want to get well. It'sbecause I have had almost every single one of my friends suggest one at onepoint or another. At first I tried them all, but then I realized that I wasusing up so much energy trying things that I was making myself sicker, notbetter. If there was something that cured, or even helped, all people withHepaititis then we'd know about it. This is not a drug-company conspiracy,there is worldwide networking (both on and off the Internet) between peoplewith Hepatitis if something worked we would KNOW.

If after reading that, you still want to suggest a cure, then do it, butdon't expect me to rush out and try it. I'll take what you said and discussit with my doctor.

In many ways I depend on you - people who are not sick - I need you tovisit me when I am too sick to go out... Sometimes I need you help me withthe shopping, cooking or cleaning. I may need you to take me to the doctor,or to the physical therapist. I need you on a different level too ... you'remy link to the outsideworld... if you don't come to visit me, then I mightnot get to see you... and, as much as it's possible, I need you tounderstand me.

Authored by Bek Oberin

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From: Hepaction@...

To: monicabmatthews@...

Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 11:25 AM

Subject: (no subject)

Dear

You posted something recently re what it is like to be a HCV patient and I really found it expressed a lot of how I feel and often can express to others including my doctor to enable them to truly understand what it is like for me on a daily basis. I am often disbelieved which frustrates me and yet I suppose it is understandable because people do not really understand any illness with fluctuating symptoms. So I can be seen looking, if not actually feeling, relatively normal and I make it worse for myself because I have an optimistic and bright aspect to me that fools others into thinking I am better than I really am.

I am writing to ask you if you would mind sending it to me again because I have been having computer problems and it has disappeared... I really want to give a copy to my doctor in particular.

Thanks .

All the best

Mo Osborne

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Lynn wrote:

------> What did you take and how did it affect other stuff like E?Hi Lynn,

It's called "testo-calm" - 'a unique blend of phytoantiandrogens and other herbs to naturally support hormonal balance'. The maker is YOURMENOPAUSETYPE.com INC.

As far as I could tell, it did not affect E at all, except maybe etablishing that necessary balance of hormones. I seem to need it now and then in the 'second half of the month' when I feel 'itchy' again.

Cheereo,

Charlotte