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Hi, I'm new to the discussions, hope I can barge in. Regarding people who liked them...I loved mine, would have recommended them to anyone thinking about it. Had them for 24 years and never had an ailment that I knew came from them. Maybe that's the key right there. We all have "things" in our lives, how would you really know ? I have allergies...I still don't know if they were normal allergies or ???? I have to have them out because of ruptures. Now I look back and wonder.... That long ago no one told me they would ever have to come out. Anyway, thought I'd add my 2 cents.

[Guest guest]

I think that many of us that got sick right away KNOW FOR SURE 100% it

was our implants. I am not so foolish to not see the correlation. I

was 34 years old, healthy, a runner, not an ache or pain in my body

and felt fantastic everyday. I got implants and 3 months later I am

dizzy, achey and sick beyond sick.......almost felt like I was dying.

Suddenly a 34 year old women that has never really been to a Dr in her

life is there every other day with something new going on. I mean I

work in medicine I know enough to realize the correlation between

cause and effect here. I got implants and my health went to hell. And

then no one can figure it out? Not one Dr......hmmm? Then I go from

having all normal blood work to having a test that indicated

autoimmune disease? Oh yeah and lets not forget that list of unknown

symptoms associated with implants... the one in the FDA pamphlet my Dr

gave me after my surgery. Hmm lets see I think I had 15 of the 25 or

so symptoms. Yeah 2+2 =4 and in my case it was pretty clear. The truth

became even more clear when I had them out 18 months after

implantation and slowly over the next 18 months all the those symptoms

went away and the blood test for autoimmune disease goes back to normal.

Well that to me is pretty easy to see what made me sick. If someone

would just do a study of people like me they would come to the same

conclusion, that breast implants cause a syndrome in some women. Why

or who I don't know but it does.

I am glad that you had 24 years with your implants without being sick.

Some of us were not so lucky.

In , Charlotte or Joe Hunt

<chiandjoe@s...> wrote:

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> Hi, I'm new to the discussions, hope I can barge in. Regarding

people who liked them...I loved mine, would have recommended them to

anyone thinking about it. Had them for 24 years and never had an

ailment that I knew came from them. Maybe that's the key right there.

We all have " things " in our lives, how would you really know ? I

have allergies...I still don't know if they were normal allergies or

???? I have to have them out because of ruptures. Now I look back and

wonder.... That long ago no one told me they would ever have to come

out. Anyway, thought I'd add my 2 cents.

>

[Guest guest]

Uh oh...is it me or has the chat recently taken on a bit of an edge? I was responding to someone questioning if it might be that women who were happy with their implants didn't seem to notice or assign blame to the implants. I was saying I had "things" in my life but since I was very happy with them perhaps I did exactly that, overlooked implants as a possible catalyst, I would never assume that others couldn't tell the difference and didn't mean to imply that. I hope that we all find peace of mind in our search to normalize our health.

[Guest guest]

Please don't think that. There may be some things going on in the

background that have come up, but my goal is to keep this group a

loving, compassionate haven for women who are hurting to come to for

help and encouragement. That is the priority here for me!

At times our group has gotten a little catty with each other, but it

doesn't take long to tone it down once we realize that the most

important goal is to stay positive.

The whole breast implant issue is very complex and emotionally up

and down. We just have to learn to make allowances for that and not

take things offense at things not meant to be offensive and not to

take anything too personally.

I hope that helps! We have all been through fairly similar

experiences, so we can find solace in sharing our experiences with

each other.

Our goal on the group is to help everyone get their health back, and

so it really helps when we stay positive and upbeat. Sometimes that

takes a little extra effort, but it is worth it! My life is so much

more peaceful since making that a daily practice.

Let's be thankful for all that we can be!

God bless,

Patty

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> Uh oh...is it me or has the chat recently taken on a bit of an

edge? I was responding to someone questioning if it might be that

women who were happy with their implants didn't seem to notice or

assign blame to the implants. I was saying I had " things " in my

life but since I was very happy with them perhaps I did exactly

that, overlooked implants as a possible catalyst, I would never

assume that others couldn't tell the difference and didn't mean to

imply that. I hope that we all find peace of mind in our search to

normalize our health.

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, ignore those last posts. There are just some things that have a

history that many women on the group do not know about.

We work hard for peace of mind. And we try to keep the newer women from

experiencing some of the old stuff.

Lynda

At 12:29 PM 10/12/2005, you wrote:

>Uh oh...is it me or has the chat recently taken on a bit of an edge? I

>was responding to someone questioning if it might be that women who were

>happy with their implants didn't seem to notice or assign blame to the

>implants. I was saying I had " things " in my life but since I was very

>happy with them perhaps I did exactly that, overlooked implants as a

>possible catalyst, I would never assume that others couldn't tell the

>difference and didn't mean to imply that. I hope that we all find peace

>of mind in our search to normalize our health.

>

>

>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

>licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

>health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

>Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

>a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

>two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi - I'm glad hubby is supportive regardless of your decision,

that makes it so much easier. I can relate, I feel like an idiot for

taking the risk, too. I read the pamplet of the symptoms that women

report, and then the little note saying that there was no proof of a

connection, and that held me back for a number of months - and a few

days before the surgery I was really having bad omens about it, but

for some ridiculous reason didn't listen to my inner voice. I wish I

was as skittish about having them in as I am having them out - I

think it's been such a traumatic experience for me that I'm kind of

phobic about surgery itself right now. My symptoms have eased up the

last few weeks, and that confuses me to no end, but I think if I left

them in my body I couldn't live with myself. I can barely live with

myself for this anyway, I definitely don't feel like me anymore.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

Sis

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> > I have had saline implants for 6 months and about 3 weeks ago I

> > started feeling tired dizzy and had headaches, and now I noticed

my

> > hair falling out more than usual. My breasts are also somewhat

> painful

> > and burn. I called my Dr. who said it is not related to my

implants

> > and the pain is nerve regeneration.

> > He said he would take them out but strongly adviced me not to.

> > My problem is this he charges$6000 to take them out I thought it

> might

> > be expensive because I paid $8,500 to put them in . So where do I

> find

> > a good Dr. To take them out if I don't start to feel better?

> > Anyone have any advice . I live in NY State

> > Thank you

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> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions

about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963,

Peace)

>

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[Guest guest]

Hey karen I read my post and think maybe it may have been taken out of

context. I guess I was not wording it exactly as I meant it to be so

if you thought I was being snippy I wasn't at all. I was just

explaining that for those of us like me that got sick right away it

was super clear it was the implants. Even still I certainly had my

moments of denial. At one point I was simply going to live with

it...ha that was not to bright of me. I guess my point is that looking

back it sure was obvious what was going on with my health. I mean it

was like getting hit with a ton of bricks! And then of course I got

well so swiftly after explant.....it was sure like being struck with

lightening!

I did not intend to seem angry with you....mostly it was anger and is

anger with the manufactururs for not studing women like me when it

would be so clear that there is an implant illness syndrome that

exists in some of us.

Peace

n , Charlotte or Joe Hunt

<chiandjoe@s...> wrote:

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> Uh oh...is it me or has the chat recently taken on a bit of an edge?

I was responding to someone questioning if it might be that women who

were happy with their implants didn't seem to notice or assign blame

to the implants. I was saying I had " things " in my life but since I

was very happy with them perhaps I did exactly that, overlooked

implants as a possible catalyst, I would never assume that others

couldn't tell the difference and didn't mean to imply that. I hope

that we all find peace of mind in our search to normalize our health.

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