Re: Emailing: 000210....Bring on the junk food and drugs will follow:

[Guest guest]

OH MY GOSH THIS IS FUNNY LEA! YOU have no idea how true this is! Hee

hee. The drug reps where I work bring us lunch and dinner and all

kinds of snacks and things. It isn't all unhealthy or anything but

yeah they like to keep us in the food. We have lunch brought to us at

least 2x a week by drug reps. The fact is that know they can impress

the Dr's if they do this. The interesting thing is that no one where I

work is fat. I think since it is a dermatology clinic we have allot of

staff that really cares about how they look. I know I eat but I come

home and hit the gym too! It is really funny that you posted this

though! Yesterday we had lunch brought to us and the day before as

well. Usually they call and ask us where we woud like the food brought

from and we tend to chose salads and sandwiches and places like

Chillis and Applebees but yeah it is def true. We also like Jamba

Juices in the afternoons!

In , " Lea " <devans@c...> wrote:

>

> [corp-focus] Dr. Matt is AgitatedI wanted to share this with

everyone......love to all..........Lea

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``

> [corp-focus] Dr. Matt is Agitated

> robert weissman rob@e...

> Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:23:46 -0400

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> Dr. Matt is Agitated

> By Mokhiber and Weissman

>

> Dr. Matt Hahn is agitated.

>

> Steamed.

>

> Hot under the collar.

>

> People around him are fat.

>

> Out of shape.

>

> Blubbery.

>

> And drug reps keep bringing junk food into his office.

>

> Pizza with a ton of cheese.

>

> Cookies.

>

> Crap.

>

> Dr. Matt gripes about it.

>

> He pushes back at the drug reps.

>

> But they keep coming.

>

> Junk food in hand.

>

> A wave of junk.

>

> Delivered by an army of drug reps.

>

> And nothing can stop them.

>

> Dr. Matt is a family doctor at the Tri-State Community Health Center in

> Hancock, land.

>

> Notice the word " health. "

>

> Dr. Matt sits on the drug/prevention divide.

>

> Of course, we need drugs to treat illness.

>

> But much of our illnesses are preventable.

>

> Eat well.

>

> Exercise.

>

> Keep the drugs at bay.

>

> Eat junk.

>

> Stay on the couch.

>

> And drugs will follow.

>

> So, what is it with drug reps anyway?

>

> They don't bring grapes and apples as they travel the country.

>

> They bring donuts and pizza.

>

> Could it be that they are seeking to induce illness so that they may

> sell more drugs?

>

> Or is it just that their customer pool is so saturated that grapes don't

> cut it?

>

> Grapes don't cut it.

>

> Bring on the crap.

>

> When he calls agitated, we know what it's about.

>

> What is it Dr. Matt?

>

> You're not going to believe this.

>

> Try us.

>

> No, sit down.

>

> This one is special.

>

> Go ahead.

>

> You are just not going believe it.

>

> Just tell us what you have.

>

> He told us.

>

> And we didn't believe it.

>

> Until he brought over the evidence.

>

> A box of Mini Belgian Eclairs -- " filled to the brim with bavarian dairy

> cream and topped with chocolate -- contains 50 Mini Eclairs -- 241

> calories per serving. "

>

> And a box of Belgian Mini Cream Puffs -- " filled to the brim with

> whipped vanilla dairy cream -- contains 70 Cream Puffs -- 305 calories

> per serving. "

>

> The boxes were empty -- the staff at Tri-State Community " Health " Center

> had devoured them instantaneously.

>

> Who brought these wonderful items in, Dr. Matt?

>

> The drug rep from Novo Nordisk -- the maker of insulin to treat

diabetics.

>

> Right there, on top of each container -- " compliments of Novolog

Mix70/30. "

>

> Belgian mini eclairs brought to you by a Danish insulin company.

>

> Now, Novo Nordisk is a leader in the field of diabetes treatment.

>

> But they also project themselves as a company concerned about

prevention.

>

> As they say, " Novo Nordisk's aspiration is to defeat diabetes by finding

> better methods of diabetes prevention, detection and treatment. "

>

> We sent this statement to Dr. Matt.

>

> Dr. Matt was besides himself.

>

> " I doubt chocolate eclairs are part of their prevention program, " Dr.

> Matt said. " If they are, their program is somewhat misguided. I would

> have to consider eating chocolate mini Belgian eclairs a non-

> traditional type of prevention. "

>

> " Did this company possibly find it ironic that they were handing out

> foods that worsened the very condition that their medication treats? "

> Dr. Matt asks. " Is there anything beyond selling more insulin? "

>

> The pharmaceutical industry spends $5.7 billion a year on marketing

> directly to physicians -- that's $6,000 to $7,000 per doctor.

>

> Littenberg, director of general internal medicine at the

> University of Vermont, says that taking anything from drug companies

> violates a trust.

>

> " They shouldn't be allowed to offer gifts, and we shouldn't be allowed

> to accept them, and it's appalling it's even an issue, " Dr. Littenberg

> said recently.

>

> Our guess is that most doctors, like Dr. Matt, don't want the crap that

> drug companies air drop on their offices.

>

> But the drug companies keep it coming.

>

> And if Novo Nordisk was embarrassed by their drug rep's eclair cream

> puff delivery, it wasn't saying.

>

> A company spokesperson, , said she couldn't comment.

>

>

> Mokhiber is editor of the Washington, D.C.-based Corporate Crime

> Reporter, <http://www.corporatecrimereporter.com>. Weissman is

> editor of the Washington, D.C.-based Multinational Monitor,

> <http://www.multinationalmonitor.org>. Mokhiber and Weissman are

> co-authors of On the Rampage: Corporate Predators and the Destruction of

> Democracy (Monroe, Maine: Common Courage Press).

>

> © Mokhiber and Weissman

>

> This article is posted at:

> <http://lists.essential.org/pipermail/corp-focus/2005/000210.html>

>

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[Guest guest]

Lea,

Thanks for this message . . . It's a horrible comment

on the state of medicine in this country!

Like our goodies? Prescribe our meds! . . .

Total disregard for the health of the patient . . .

playing on the weaknesses of all.

What do goodies have to do with the medicines doctors

prescribe? . . . Well, if they didn't have an effect,

the salesmen wouldn't be there with junk food in hand!

One implant woman, well connected to big pharma, told

me the goal of the drug companies is to get EVERYONE

on drugs from birth to grave! $$$$$$$$$

When I went to D.C with a group of other implant

women, what I heard most often is that, when they got

off medication, they started getting well.

So much medication is not intended to cure . . . it's

just to mask the symptoms! Most of the implant women

who have done much better have approached their

problems with a multi-prong approach. Diet, exercise

and detoxing . . . It's not quick, but it's highly

successful.

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Rogene I work for some really awesome docs and they are not drug

pushers at all. The thing with the drug reps is that if they cater

our lunches they def make themselves more likeable and memorable but,

in the end it really doesn't make the docs I work with more likely to

push any one medication over another. I work in the Urgent care clinic

which is attached to 2 other clinics that are derm and pain managment.

My Boss is the most lovely man who always prefers prolo therapy for

his pain patients over and above any medication. He doesn't even

really prescribe pain meds anymore. He does this new treatment where

they hit trigger points with needles filled with only saline....the

point is to relax the offending muscle not to drug the patient. I have

never met a kinder Dr ever. He in very involved in the church and has

been in New Orleans offering his services for free of course. Not all

of the Dr's are bad. I have to say I work with some really nice ones.

I am blessed though. I know they are not all that way. The fact is

that buying the staff lunches is a common practice that the drug reps

do. It isn't for the patients. The samples we have at my office are

mostly used for patients that can't afford meds and we give them to

them for free. Often they are antibiotics for sick kids like

amoxicillin and such. Oh and allot of allergy meds. The ones I have

the least respect for are the anti depressants but again, people swear

they help them.

anyhow just another take on this that others outside the business may

not every really see or understand.

Take care

In , Rogene S <saxony01@y...> wrote:

>

> Lea,

>

> Thanks for this message . . . It's a horrible comment

> on the state of medicine in this country!

>

> Like our goodies? Prescribe our meds! . . .

>

> Total disregard for the health of the patient . . .

> playing on the weaknesses of all.

>

> What do goodies have to do with the medicines doctors

> prescribe? . . . Well, if they didn't have an effect,

> the salesmen wouldn't be there with junk food in hand!

>

> One implant woman, well connected to big pharma, told

> me the goal of the drug companies is to get EVERYONE

> on drugs from birth to grave! $$$$$$$$$

>

> When I went to D.C with a group of other implant

> women, what I heard most often is that, when they got

> off medication, they started getting well.

>

> So much medication is not intended to cure . . . it's

> just to mask the symptoms! Most of the implant women

> who have done much better have approached their

> problems with a multi-prong approach. Diet, exercise

> and detoxing . . . It's not quick, but it's highly

> successful.

>

> Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I had prolo therapy for a torn rotator cuff and low back problems. I am

definitely a prolo believer. The treatment isn't any fun at all, I choose

to do it unmedicated, but it is highly effective!

Kenda

> Rogene I work for some really awesome docs and they are not drug

> pushers at all. The thing with the drug reps is that if they cater

> our lunches they def make themselves more likeable and memorable but,

> in the end it really doesn't make the docs I work with more likely to

> push any one medication over another. I work in the Urgent care clinic

> which is attached to 2 other clinics that are derm and pain managment.

> My Boss is the most lovely man who always prefers prolo therapy for

> his pain patients over and above any medication. He doesn't even

> really prescribe pain meds anymore. He does this new treatment where

> they hit trigger points with needles filled with only saline....the

> point is to relax the offending muscle not to drug the patient. I have

> never met a kinder Dr ever. He in very involved in the church and has

> been in New Orleans offering his services for free of course. Not all

> of the Dr's are bad. I have to say I work with some really nice ones.

> I am blessed though. I know they are not all that way. The fact is

> that buying the staff lunches is a common practice that the drug reps

> do. It isn't for the patients. The samples we have at my office are

> mostly used for patients that can't afford meds and we give them to

> them for free. Often they are antibiotics for sick kids like

> amoxicillin and such. Oh and allot of allergy meds. The ones I have

> the least respect for are the anti depressants but again, people swear

> they help them.

> anyhow just another take on this that others outside the business may

> not every really see or understand.

> Take care

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> In , Rogene S <saxony01@y...> wrote:

>>

>> Lea,

>>

>> Thanks for this message . . . It's a horrible comment

>> on the state of medicine in this country!

>>

>> Like our goodies? Prescribe our meds! . . .

>>

>> Total disregard for the health of the patient . . .

>> playing on the weaknesses of all.

>>

>> What do goodies have to do with the medicines doctors

>> prescribe? . . . Well, if they didn't have an effect,

>> the salesmen wouldn't be there with junk food in hand!

>>

>> One implant woman, well connected to big pharma, told

>> me the goal of the drug companies is to get EVERYONE

>> on drugs from birth to grave! $$$$$$$$$

>>

>> When I went to D.C with a group of other implant

>> women, what I heard most often is that, when they got

>> off medication, they started getting well.

>>

>> So much medication is not intended to cure . . . it's

>> just to mask the symptoms! Most of the implant women

>> who have done much better have approached their

>> problems with a multi-prong approach. Diet, exercise

>> and detoxing . . . It's not quick, but it's highly

>> successful.

>>

>> Rogene

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed

> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care

> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes I agree the prolo is really helping allot of our patients. I went

through a few rounds of it myself and have been completely free of my

constant past heel pain. I was almost debilitated from it so I am a

firm believer in prolo. My boss is the best in town at it and his

patients love him. He is a really great man. He treats the sickest and

the most difficult cases and they all come back and are so much

better. He really does avoid drugs esp narcotics. I won't say he never

treats anyone with them, but he avoids them most of the time so we

don't have allot of drug seekers. I love the fact that he tries to

listen to his patients too. He doesn't just shove drugs at them and

send them along. We also have another Dr that is into health and

fitness. He is the one I mentioned that wrote a book about timed

eating. He is very into fitness and in fact is competitive in body

building. He does some amazing work with bio identical hormones. I

love my job because after all I went through with implants and bad

Dr's I actually work with some that are more into health and fitness

way of life.

Not that they all are against implants or anything. I work with 5

girls that all have implants, but other than one that has R/A they are

all healthy girls. I can't even begin to imagine why some do and some

don't have problems but it sure is the way it is these days. I used to

believe everyone got sick but I have seen that is def not the case.

The mystery of it all is quite frustrating but I am at peace with it now.

Your smart for not getting them. I was so sick at one time I could

barely get up out of bed and lived with constant pain and dizziness

every day of my life. It was a nightmare, but the funny thing now is

that it seems ike another lifetime ago I have been well for so long

now I know that I was once almost on my death bed but the mind has a

way of just making you forget those bad experiences doesn't it?

I am glad that you know about prolo. Not allot of people are aware of

it or of it's benefits!

hugs,

In , Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@c...> wrote:

>

> Hi ,

>

> I had prolo therapy for a torn rotator cuff and low back problems. I am

> definitely a prolo believer. The treatment isn't any fun at all, I

choose

> to do it unmedicated, but it is highly effective!

>

> Kenda

>

>

> > Rogene I work for some really awesome docs and they are not drug

> > pushers at all. The thing with the drug reps is that if they cater

> > our lunches they def make themselves more likeable and memorable but,

> > in the end it really doesn't make the docs I work with more likely to

> > push any one medication over another. I work in the Urgent care clinic

> > which is attached to 2 other clinics that are derm and pain managment.

> > My Boss is the most lovely man who always prefers prolo therapy for

> > his pain patients over and above any medication. He doesn't even

> > really prescribe pain meds anymore. He does this new treatment where

> > they hit trigger points with needles filled with only saline....the

> > point is to relax the offending muscle not to drug the patient. I have

> > never met a kinder Dr ever. He in very involved in the church and has

> > been in New Orleans offering his services for free of course. Not all

> > of the Dr's are bad. I have to say I work with some really nice ones.

> > I am blessed though. I know they are not all that way. The fact is

> > that buying the staff lunches is a common practice that the drug reps

> > do. It isn't for the patients. The samples we have at my office are

> > mostly used for patients that can't afford meds and we give them to

> > them for free. Often they are antibiotics for sick kids like

> > amoxicillin and such. Oh and allot of allergy meds. The ones I have

> > the least respect for are the anti depressants but again, people swear

> > they help them.

> > anyhow just another take on this that others outside the business may

> > not every really see or understand.

> > Take care

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > In , Rogene S <saxony01@y...> wrote:

> >>

> >> Lea,

> >>

> >> Thanks for this message . . . It's a horrible comment

> >> on the state of medicine in this country!

> >>

> >> Like our goodies? Prescribe our meds! . . .

> >>

> >> Total disregard for the health of the patient . . .

> >> playing on the weaknesses of all.

> >>

> >> What do goodies have to do with the medicines doctors

> >> prescribe? . . . Well, if they didn't have an effect,

> >> the salesmen wouldn't be there with junk food in hand!

> >>

> >> One implant woman, well connected to big pharma, told

> >> me the goal of the drug companies is to get EVERYONE

> >> on drugs from birth to grave! $$$$$$$$$

> >>

> >> When I went to D.C with a group of other implant

> >> women, what I heard most often is that, when they got

> >> off medication, they started getting well.

> >>

> >> So much medication is not intended to cure . . . it's

> >> just to mask the symptoms! Most of the implant women

> >> who have done much better have approached their

> >> problems with a multi-prong approach. Diet, exercise

> >> and detoxing . . . It's not quick, but it's highly

> >> successful.

> >>

> >> Rogene

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

by licensed

> > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

health care

> > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how

to live a

> > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

two-time

> > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Couldn't have said it better myself. The attitude is super important

and yes, being too picky and too obsessive is not healthy. I think I

used to be a bit more obssessed with working out and not that I am not

still a big fitness fanatic but I have def mellowed on it and feel

better about myself now. I love to work out but I don't kick myself if

I skip now and then! I do think that living in idaho we have an

advantage in that our dary is across the street from us and the dairy

is hormone free and yummy and that we get allot of things that are

really natural and affordable here, but when i lived in the Bay area

alone and was single I could not afford those stores out there let

alone all organic. Now I have been growing things in my garden and

that is really wonderful. Next year we will have a ton of fresh stuff

and that will help me get more organics.

I also know I need to eat a bit more protein as I have been slacking

on that.

Mel I think your attitude is probably the number one thing mroe than

anything else. So keep working on that and keep positive. I know it

helped me

I believed I would and could get better. Of course marrying the man of

my dreams at 4 month post explant and having him help me feel

beautiful and sexy really helped me too.

Write me on my private email if you want to chat more ok?

Love and hugs

carrie

In , " Melinda Misuraca " <bindi@a...> wrote:

>

> Hi ,

> I'm inspired by your experience. I do think it's helpful to know

that there are some ladies who have recovered completely without

stressing about whether or not they can afford organic food. Exercise

and eating a good diet can help so much, and your great attitude must

have worked wonders.

> I'm really committed to organics for a number of reasons, but here

in California it's affordable and available.We have lots of organic

markets, farmer's markets and organic farms in the area. I do buy

non-organic produce at times--like when I just can't stand the thought

of paying 5 bucks for a basket of organic raspberries, for example. If

I eat out I try to avoid the real nasties like hydrogenated fats,

etc., but I am certain most of the produce used in restaurants is not

organic.

> There is a remarkable amount of research and evidence to show that

the chemicals used on produce are toxic and cancer-causing. Stress,

too, is toxic. Better one should try and eat as purely as possible but

not be anal about it. If we aren't enjoying life, what's the point?

> The Dalai Lama once said that he'd never refuse food that was

offered to him, even meat, though he is a vegetarian. His point was

that to be extreme is to poison oneself and others. Moderation is

good. Each one of us has to figure out what works for us. That's why

it's so great to hear about the experiences of others, expanding our

knowledge and possibilities.

> Okay, now go eat your veggies!

> xo

> Melinda

>

> Re: Emailing: 000210....Bring on the junk

food and drugs will follow:

>

>

> Yes I agree the prolo is really helping allot of our patients. I went

> through a few rounds of it myself and have been completely free of my

> constant past heel pain. I was almost debilitated from it so I am a

> firm believer in prolo. My boss is the best in town at it and his

> patients love him. He is a really great man. He treats the sickest and

> the most difficult cases and they all come back and are so much

> better. He really does avoid drugs esp narcotics. I won't say he never

> treats anyone with them, but he avoids them most of the time so we

> don't have allot of drug seekers. I love the fact that he tries to

> listen to his patients too. He doesn't just shove drugs at them and

> send them along. We also have another Dr that is into health and

> fitness. He is the one I mentioned that wrote a book about timed

> eating. He is very into fitness and in fact is competitive in body

> building. He does some amazing work with bio identical hormones. I

> love my job because after all I went through with implants and bad

> Dr's I actually work with some that are more into health and fitness

> way of life.

> Not that they all are against implants or anything. I work with 5

> girls that all have implants, but other than one that has R/A they are

> all healthy girls. I can't even begin to imagine why some do and some

> don't have problems but it sure is the way it is these days. I used to

> believe everyone got sick but I have seen that is def not the case.

> The mystery of it all is quite frustrating but I am at peace with

it now.

> Your smart for not getting them. I was so sick at one time I could

> barely get up out of bed and lived with constant pain and dizziness

> every day of my life. It was a nightmare, but the funny thing now is

> that it seems ike another lifetime ago I have been well for so long

> now I know that I was once almost on my death bed but the mind has a

> way of just making you forget those bad experiences doesn't it?

> I am glad that you know about prolo. Not allot of people are aware of

> it or of it's benefits!

> hugs,

>

>

>

>

>

>

> In , Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@c...> wrote:

> >

> > Hi ,

> >

> > I had prolo therapy for a torn rotator cuff and low back

problems. I am

> > definitely a prolo believer. The treatment isn't any fun at all, I

> choose

> > to do it unmedicated, but it is highly effective!

> >

> > Kenda

> >

> >

> > > Rogene I work for some really awesome docs and they are not drug

> > > pushers at all. The thing with the drug reps is that if they

cater

> > > our lunches they def make themselves more likeable and

memorable but,

> > > in the end it really doesn't make the docs I work with more

likely to

> > > push any one medication over another. I work in the Urgent

care clinic

> > > which is attached to 2 other clinics that are derm and pain

managment.

> > > My Boss is the most lovely man who always prefers prolo

therapy for

> > > his pain patients over and above any medication. He doesn't even

> > > really prescribe pain meds anymore. He does this new treatment

where

> > > they hit trigger points with needles filled with only

saline....the

> > > point is to relax the offending muscle not to drug the

patient. I have

> > > never met a kinder Dr ever. He in very involved in the church

and has

> > > been in New Orleans offering his services for free of course.

Not all

> > > of the Dr's are bad. I have to say I work with some really

nice ones.

> > > I am blessed though. I know they are not all that way. The fact is

> > > that buying the staff lunches is a common practice that the

drug reps

> > > do. It isn't for the patients. The samples we have at my

office are

> > > mostly used for patients that can't afford meds and we give

them to

> > > them for free. Often they are antibiotics for sick kids like

> > > amoxicillin and such. Oh and allot of allergy meds. The ones I

have

> > > the least respect for are the anti depressants but again,

people swear

> > > they help them.

> > > anyhow just another take on this that others outside the

business may

> > > not every really see or understand.

> > > Take care

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > In , Rogene S <saxony01@y...> wrote:

> > >>

> > >> Lea,

> > >>

> > >> Thanks for this message . . . It's a horrible comment

> > >> on the state of medicine in this country!

> > >>

> > >> Like our goodies? Prescribe our meds! . . .

> > >>

> > >> Total disregard for the health of the patient . . .

> > >> playing on the weaknesses of all.

> > >>

> > >> What do goodies have to do with the medicines doctors

> > >> prescribe? . . . Well, if they didn't have an effect,

> > >> the salesmen wouldn't be there with junk food in hand!

> > >>

> > >> One implant woman, well connected to big pharma, told

> > >> me the goal of the drug companies is to get EVERYONE

> > >> on drugs from birth to grave! $$$$$$$$$

> > >>

> > >> When I went to D.C with a group of other implant

> > >> women, what I heard most often is that, when they got

> > >> off medication, they started getting well.

> > >>

> > >> So much medication is not intended to cure . . . it's

> > >> just to mask the symptoms! Most of the implant women

> > >> who have done much better have approached their

> > >> problems with a multi-prong approach. Diet, exercise

> > >> and detoxing . . . It's not quick, but it's highly

> > >> successful.

> > >>

> > >> Rogene

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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