Re: Re: Fibro Pain:Kenda?Rogene

[Guest guest]

Hi Rogene,

Thanks for the reply. You always have such good advice. I am a little disapointed only because I have finaly found a doctor who believes implants cause problems(THANK YOU GOD!) and she does feel she can help me, but told me I have no muscle tone. On a scale of 1-10, 10 being the best, my muscle tone is a 3! And 2 years ago I was so strong and toned. I just hope some day I can exercise again pain free. I have been working with a naturopath for almost 9 months, acupuntureist, deeptissue massage, some yoga and trying to eat much healthier. All of these things have deffinitly helped me get better but they are also getting very expensive. And I have found a wonderful new Dr. who I really believe is going to help. I guess I should just start slowly like you said. Thanks again,

Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

,I know you wrote to Kenda . . . but I thought I'd addsome of the things I've done.Getting my diet in order . . . (I've covered all thatrecently), deep theraputic massage, infrared sauna,supplements - Garden of Life Fungal Defense, PrimalDefense, Living Calicium, Living Multi, Cod Liver Oiland Green formula, moderate exercise, Epsom saltbaths, lots of water AND a medication to help me getdeep sleep.I'd suggest easing into a program, one thing at atime. Make it a gradual life style change so you canstay with it. You really can get rid of it! . . . It takes time,patience and discipline. . . but it's doable and wellworth it!Hugs,Rogene

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Hi ,

It really sounds like you are doing all the right things. Are your doctors

helping you to detox? That is what really made a huge difference with my

fibro pain. I mentioned in another email a minute ago, that water aerobics

might be a great way to ease back into exercise. It is amazing how quickly

muscle tone is lost when exercise is stopped. Don't worry, it will come

back and if you trained previously, you do have muscle memory.

Kenda

> Thanks for the reply. You always have such good advice. I am a little

> disapointed only because I have finaly found a doctor who believes implants

> cause problems(THANK YOU GOD!) and she does feel she can help me, but told me

> I have no muscle tone. On a scale of 1-10, 10 being the best, my muscle tone

> is a 3! And 2 years ago I was so strong and toned. I just hope some day I

> can exercise again pain free. I have been working with a naturopath for

> almost 9 months, acupuntureist, deeptissue massage, some yoga and trying to

> eat much healthier. All of these things have deffinitly helped me get better

> but they are also getting very expensive. And I have found a wonderful new

> Dr. who I really believe is going to help. I guess I should just start slowly

> like you said. Thanks again,

>

>

> Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> I know you wrote to Kenda . . . but I thought I'd add

> some of the things I've done.

>

> Getting my diet in order . . . (I've covered all that

> recently), deep theraputic massage, infrared sauna,

> supplements - Garden of Life Fungal Defense, Primal

> Defense, Living Calicium, Living Multi, Cod Liver Oil

> and Green formula, moderate exercise, Epsom salt

> baths, lots of water AND a medication to help me get

> deep sleep.

>

> I'd suggest easing into a program, one thing at a

> time. Make it a gradual life style change so you can

> stay with it.

>

> You really can get rid of it! . . . It takes time,

> patience and discipline. . . but it's doable and well

> worth it!

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed

> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care

> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

It sounds like you are getting really good massages!

The doctor who DX'd me said that was the best therapy

I could get! If you'll get a doctor's prescription for

theraputic massage, you can at least take it off your

income tax!

There's a difference between excercising with pain and

being sore afterwards. When your muscles are so very

tight, yet weak, you could get hurt if you go at it

too vigorously. Work on stretching your muscles and

building strength. Swimming pool exercise is

wonderful! There's a difference between swimming and

water aerobics though . . . Water aerobics will target

more muscles - if done right.

Physical therapy can be great - depending on your

therapist. I hate it when they ask me what I think I

should do! Duh! If I knew that, I'd stay at home and

do it!

I'm afraid physical therapists don't have time to give

good massages though! They should give you a sheet of

instructions for exercises to do at home. Doing these

reguarly will help speed you along signficantly.

You might swap notes with Molly. She's beginning an

exercise program too.

It's very important to get deep sleep! . . . In one

study, they found they could induce FM symptoms in

anyone by depriving them of sleep long enough!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Hi Rogene,

I am def finitely going to try swimming. I just wish I could get insurance to cover some of my the treatments that really seem to help! I have been paying for all of the massage, acupuncture and supplements out of pocket. It really adds up! I saw my naturopathic Dr. today and he wants to do a lymphatic exam to see if there are any blockages or inflammation of my lymph system. Have you ever heard of this or know of anyone who has done this?

Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

,It sounds like you are getting really good massages!The doctor who DX'd me said that was the best therapyI could get! If you'll get a doctor's prescription fortheraputic massage, you can at least take it off yourincome tax!There's a difference between excercising with pain andbeing sore afterwards. When your muscles are so verytight, yet weak, you could get hurt if you go at ittoo vigorously. Work on stretching your muscles andbuilding strength. Swimming pool exercise iswonderful! There's a difference between swimming andwater aerobics though . . . Water aerobics will targetmore muscles - if done right. Physical therapy can be great - depending on yourtherapist. I hate it when they ask me what I think Ishould do! Duh! If I knew that, I'd stay at home anddo it! I'm afraid physical

therapists don't have time to givegood massages though! They should give you a sheet ofinstructions for exercises to do at home. Doing thesereguarly will help speed you along signficantly. You might swap notes with Molly. She's beginning anexercise program too. It's very important to get deep sleep! . . . In onestudy, they found they could induce FM symptoms inanyone by depriving them of sleep long enough!Hugs and prayers,Rogene

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

There are places that offer swimming or strengthening exercises in a pool as

part of physical therapy that might be covered by your insurance. I was on

a waiting list for one. The list was so long that I never got in but my

insurance would have covered it.

Kenda

> Hi Rogene,

> I am def finitely going to try swimming. I just wish I could get insurance to

> cover some of my the treatments that really seem to help! I have been paying

> for all of the massage, acupuncture and supplements out of pocket. It really

> adds up! I saw my naturopathic Dr. today and he wants to do a lymphatic exam

> to see if there are any blockages or inflammation of my lymph system. Have

> you ever heard of this or know of anyone who has done this?

>

>

> Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> It sounds like you are getting really good massages!

> The doctor who DX'd me said that was the best therapy

> I could get! If you'll get a doctor's prescription for

> theraputic massage, you can at least take it off your

> income tax!

>

> There's a difference between excercising with pain and

> being sore afterwards. When your muscles are so very

> tight, yet weak, you could get hurt if you go at it

> too vigorously. Work on stretching your muscles and

> building strength. Swimming pool exercise is

> wonderful! There's a difference between swimming and

> water aerobics though . . . Water aerobics will target

> more muscles - if done right.

>

> Physical therapy can be great - depending on your

> therapist. I hate it when they ask me what I think I

> should do! Duh! If I knew that, I'd stay at home and

> do it!

>

> I'm afraid physical therapists don't have time to give

> good massages though! They should give you a sheet of

> instructions for exercises to do at home. Doing these

> reguarly will help speed you along signficantly.

>

> You might swap notes with Molly. She's beginning an

> exercise program too.

>

> It's very important to get deep sleep! . . . In one

> study, they found they could induce FM symptoms in

> anyone by depriving them of sleep long enough!

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed

> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care

> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

You can save yourself a doctor visit by using a

rebounder (a mini trampoline). It's a gentle way of

exercising, and good at helping lymph drainage. It

certainly can't hurt! Also, you could learn how to

massage yourself for most lymph nodes. . . Do a

websearch for " How to Lymph Massage "

I tried acupuncture myself. I felt a boost after the

first treatment, but then no change after that. I

haven't heard of many women getting much help with

acupuncture.

The things that seem to help most are diet, fungal

treatment, massage, detoxing and exercise.

Which supplements are you taking?

Hugs,

Rogene

--- G <karengup@...> wrote:

> Hi Rogene,

> I am def finitely going to try swimming. I just

> wish I could get insurance to cover some of my the

> treatments that really seem to help! I have been

> paying for all of the massage, acupuncture and

> supplements out of pocket. It really adds up! I

> saw my naturopathic Dr. today and he wants to do a

> lymphatic exam to see if there are any blockages or

> inflammation of my lymph system. Have you ever

> heard of this or know of anyone who has done this?

>

>

> Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> It sounds like you are getting really good massages!

> The doctor who DX'd me said that was the best

> therapy

> I could get! If you'll get a doctor's prescription

> for

> theraputic massage, you can at least take it off

> your

> income tax!

>

> There's a difference between excercising with pain

> and

> being sore afterwards. When your muscles are so very

> tight, yet weak, you could get hurt if you go at it

> too vigorously. Work on stretching your muscles and

> building strength. Swimming pool exercise is

> wonderful! There's a difference between swimming and

> water aerobics though . . . Water aerobics will

> target

> more muscles - if done right.

>

> Physical therapy can be great - depending on your

> therapist. I hate it when they ask me what I think I

> should do! Duh! If I knew that, I'd stay at home and

> do it!

>

> I'm afraid physical therapists don't have time to

> give

> good massages though! They should give you a sheet

> of

> instructions for exercises to do at home. Doing

> these

> reguarly will help speed you along signficantly.

>

> You might swap notes with Molly. She's beginning an

> exercise program too.

>

> It's very important to get deep sleep! . . . In one

> study, they found they could induce FM symptoms in

> anyone by depriving them of sleep long enough!

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> of advice given by licensed health care

> professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care professional before commencing any

> medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts

> are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

> Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

> Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>