Re: Fibro Pain-To Kenda about Pain

[Guest guest]

Hi..... it's so great to hear that you haven't been in pain for yrs.

until the Hormone thing. I have had chronic all-over muscle pain for

over 4 yrs. (I've been explanted for 2 yrs.) Other crazy symptoms

have gone away since explant but I'm still taking daily pain meds.

which are causing other side effects. I'm seeing a Holistic Dr. who

has me on 7 different liquid supplements, which has helped my

abdominal pain (I've been diagnosed with endometriosis as well) but

not my muscle aches.

How do I get involved with Dr. Leu? Does he live in your town? I've

been told that I have mycoplasma but can't find anyone to treat it.

Does he handle things like that? I've spent thousands of dollars

trying to detox and get rid of Candida.

Have you ever been tested for heavy metals? Thanks for the help!

Love, Daryl

> > > I have a strange one to add to this, for anyone suffering with

> > fibro pain.

> > > As you know, I have been fibro-pain free for several years.

> Just

> > last week

> > > I developed the same debilitating pain I had been free of for

so

> > long.

> > > Freaked, I saw Dr. Leu today. My estrogen has been high in

the

> > past so I

> > > was put on an aromatase inhibitor a couple of weeks ago to

bring

> > it down.

> > > Evidently, it brought my estrogen down too low, which

triggered

> > menopausal

> > > symptoms -- hot flashes and night sweats, which I had not

> previous

> > > developed. The fibro symptoms I had this past week were as a

> > result of too

> > > little estrogen in my body! My IC flared horribly as well.

So,

> > for anyone

> > > suffering fibro symptoms with known hormone problems, you

might

> > want to go

> > > see an ND and get a hormone test to see if it could be low

> > estrogen causing

> > > your fibro pain. The pain I felt during the past week was

just

> as

> > bad and

> > > debilitating as years ago.

> > >

> > > I skipped the aromatase inhibitor this morning and already

feel

> a

> > bit

> > > better. I asked if this is what I have to look forward to in

> > menopause. He

> > > said no because I will be on natural HRT. It seems fibro pain

> > isn't always

> > > fibro!

> > >

> > > Kenda

> > >

> > >

> > > >>

> > > >> Something to keep in mind is that Fibromyalgia is a

> > > >> Syndrome, not a disease . . . A Syndrome is a

> > > >> collection of symptoms that have enough in common to

> > > >> be given a name.

> > > >>

> > > >> I'm convinced that there are a number of causes for

> > > >> Fibromyalgia . . . however, IMHO, they have one thing

> > > >> in cause . . . A trauma - accident, stress, illness -

> > > >> that caused a disturbance in ones sleep cycle.

> > > >>

> > > >> They've found that FM can be induced in anyone by

> > > >> depriving them of enough sleep. However, when caught

> > > >> up on sleep, FM symptoms disappear for most people.

> > > >> However, if one is prone to FM, they keep the

> > > >> symptoms! I bet those study participants who kept FM

> > > >> will never forget that study!

> > > >>

> > > >> Over the years, all my FM symptoms have disappeared,

> > > >> except that, without a small amount of prescription

> > > >> medication, I don't get sufficient deep sleep. I've

> > > >> gone off the medication to see what happens . . .

> > > >> Nothing happened, except, I woke every time my hubby

> > > >> stirs.

> > > >>

> > > >> Personally, I think it's important to put all the

> > > >> diagnoses aside. Take only medications that you KNOW

> > > >> is helping, do everything possible to give your body

> > > >> what it needs, while eliminating the stuff that harms

> > > >> it. The human body has incredible healing powers! It

> > > >> takes time, discipline and patience to let it do it's

> > > >> work!

> > > >>

> > > >> However, when faced with a life of pain and

> > > >> disability, we really have no choice but to take care

> > > >> of our health the best we possibly can!

> > > >>

> > > >> To do otherwise is self-destructive.

> > > >>

> > > >> Hugs and prayers,

> > > >>

> > > >> Rogene

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> > given by licensed

> > > > health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed

> > health care

> > > > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> > > >

> > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

politicians

> > mislead you.

> > > > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions

about

> > how to live a

> > > > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

> ing,

> > two-time

> > > > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Daryl,

I haven't had fibro pain in several years but it was through detoxing and

diet changes that I got rid of it. The screwy hormones last week gave me

pain that was very similar. It was scary because I thought maybe fibro was

back!!

Dr. Leu is in my town but he does treat over the phone, mailing supplements

and tests. A couple of women here have started treating with him as well

over the past few months. He definitely treats mycoplasma, in fact he's

looking for a reliable test for it now. His phone number is 918 298-9300.

I can't say enough good things about Dr. Leu. He is the only reason I am

well today. There is simply no way I could have found my own way to health.

If you want any additional information about him, let me know, I'd be happy

to help.

I was tested for heavy metals but didn't have a problem, thankfully!

Kenda

> Hi..... it's so great to hear that you haven't been in pain for yrs.

> until the Hormone thing. I have had chronic all-over muscle pain for

> over 4 yrs. (I've been explanted for 2 yrs.) Other crazy symptoms

> have gone away since explant but I'm still taking daily pain meds.

> which are causing other side effects. I'm seeing a Holistic Dr. who

> has me on 7 different liquid supplements, which has helped my

> abdominal pain (I've been diagnosed with endometriosis as well) but

> not my muscle aches.

>

> How do I get involved with Dr. Leu? Does he live in your town? I've

> been told that I have mycoplasma but can't find anyone to treat it.

> Does he handle things like that? I've spent thousands of dollars

> trying to detox and get rid of Candida.

>

> Have you ever been tested for heavy metals? Thanks for the help!

> Love, Daryl

>

>

>

>

>>>> I have a strange one to add to this, for anyone suffering with

>>> fibro pain.

>>>> As you know, I have been fibro-pain free for several years.

>> Just

>>> last week

>>>> I developed the same debilitating pain I had been free of for

> so

>>> long.

>>>> Freaked, I saw Dr. Leu today. My estrogen has been high in

> the

>>> past so I

>>>> was put on an aromatase inhibitor a couple of weeks ago to

> bring

>>> it down.

>>>> Evidently, it brought my estrogen down too low, which

> triggered

>>> menopausal

>>>> symptoms -- hot flashes and night sweats, which I had not

>> previous

>>>> developed. The fibro symptoms I had this past week were as a

>>> result of too

>>>> little estrogen in my body! My IC flared horribly as well.

> So,

>>> for anyone

>>>> suffering fibro symptoms with known hormone problems, you

> might

>>> want to go

>>>> see an ND and get a hormone test to see if it could be low

>>> estrogen causing

>>>> your fibro pain. The pain I felt during the past week was

> just

>> as

>>> bad and

>>>> debilitating as years ago.

>>>>

>>>> I skipped the aromatase inhibitor this morning and already

> feel

>> a

>>> bit

>>>> better. I asked if this is what I have to look forward to in

>>> menopause. He

>>>> said no because I will be on natural HRT. It seems fibro pain

>>> isn't always

>>>> fibro!

>>>>

>>>> Kenda

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Something to keep in mind is that Fibromyalgia is a

>>>>>> Syndrome, not a disease . . . A Syndrome is a

>>>>>> collection of symptoms that have enough in common to

>>>>>> be given a name.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I'm convinced that there are a number of causes for

>>>>>> Fibromyalgia . . . however, IMHO, they have one thing

>>>>>> in cause . . . A trauma - accident, stress, illness -

>>>>>> that caused a disturbance in ones sleep cycle.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> They've found that FM can be induced in anyone by

>>>>>> depriving them of enough sleep. However, when caught

>>>>>> up on sleep, FM symptoms disappear for most people.

>>>>>> However, if one is prone to FM, they keep the

>>>>>> symptoms! I bet those study participants who kept FM

>>>>>> will never forget that study!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Over the years, all my FM symptoms have disappeared,

>>>>>> except that, without a small amount of prescription

>>>>>> medication, I don't get sufficient deep sleep. I've

>>>>>> gone off the medication to see what happens . . .

>>>>>> Nothing happened, except, I woke every time my hubby

>>>>>> stirs.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Personally, I think it's important to put all the

>>>>>> diagnoses aside. Take only medications that you KNOW

>>>>>> is helping, do everything possible to give your body

>>>>>> what it needs, while eliminating the stuff that harms

>>>>>> it. The human body has incredible healing powers! It

>>>>>> takes time, discipline and patience to let it do it's

>>>>>> work!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> However, when faced with a life of pain and

>>>>>> disability, we really have no choice but to take care

>>>>>> of our health the best we possibly can!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> To do otherwise is self-destructive.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Hugs and prayers,

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Rogene

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

>>> given by licensed

>>>>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or

> licensed

>>> health care

>>>>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>>>>>

>>>>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> politicians

>>> mislead you.

>>>>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions

> about

>>> how to live a

>>>>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

>> ing,

>>> two-time

>>>>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>>>>>

>>>>>