Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Hi Sasmita, The Footsies' brand I buy in Australia are the Think Life and I buy them from a naturopath as he sells them for a much cheaper price and also because he guarantee that they are toxic free. I also buy from him Coriender drops that someone prepares speciallly for him (for his clients, but he sells them to anyone) and I apply 5 drops on each foostsy before I put them on the feet. I use them for a month and then I give them a break. I start on one foot every other night and then after two weeks I use 2 for another two weeks, then I give the boys a break for two weeks, because the coriender drops help to pull a lot of metals too so the boys need a break to replanish the mineral intake. I noticed that when they are using the footsies they sleep better (sound sleep) particularly my 10 years old. In my opnion they are great and I don't mind to spend the money on them, because I feel they work, but some people said that they didn't do anything for their kids. I have been using them for the past two years on and off and I will continue using them for as long as is needed. Olga > > > > , > > > > Great website. > > > > I was looking at the foot pads inf. as I used them on my boys for more than a year together with coriender drops and other detox protocols plus supplements and I think they were really helpful for my younger kid as he is not considered autistic any more, but still have health issues that need to take care of at the moment. > > > > Thanks for the inf regarding the KPU test. > > > > Olga > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I received the results yesterday - much faster than expected. My son's numbers are slightly below the top end of the reference range, which was a surprise to me. I was expecting him to be way high, considering how quickly he fell apart on the supplement " fast " . He was in tears asking to go back on them by the third day because he felt so rotten and out of control. HPL - 238 (ref: 15 - 250) Kryptopyrrol - 13.7 (ref: <15.0) I wonder if I didn't have him off supps for long enough. It was only five days. He's been on zinc, B6, manganese, magnesium etc for so many years and I wonder if that has kept him just below the range of very mild KPU. Perhaps 5 days just wasn't long enough to drain his reserves to get a positive. I'm sure the collection protocol I followed prevented any light exposure. Perhaps freezing for two days was incorrect. Anyway - I'm not going to have him go without supplements for a longer time frame to test again. He's only just getting back to his normal self after two weeks. If there is a different lab I can send a sample to I'll do that - I kept a bunch of pee in the freezer. Is anyone else treating anyway, regardless of a negative test result? I'm going to add P5P and biotin into his supplement list. He was on them a couple of years ago and I have no idea why they were pulled out. Changing zinc brands from Jarrow to Thorne picolinate. Any suggestions for good brands of P5P, Biotin and the others in the KPU protocol? After the Kirkman debacle I'm not feeling too confident in supplement manufacturers. I still haven't found an alternative source for TMG yet..... > > Hi All, > > I haven't been posting here much because of my hectic life, but I have been continuing to research fatty acid metabolism in relation to my son's residual biomedical issues. > > I've come to the conclusion that I'm never going to get the lipid thing straightened out if he has KPU. So many of the conversions are dependent upon the very elements and vitamins that are wasted in KPU. > > I believe he also has low HCL in addition to other digestive issues (IgG food sensitivities that just keep returning) which would make sense if he actually does have KPU. > > Sending today's 24 hour sample to Vitamin Diagnostics in NJ. > > Just wanted to share where I'm at and ask a few questions: > > For people already on the KPU protocol - any changes in skin or hair condition that might indicate improvement in fatty acid metabolism? > > How much ascorbic acid per ml/oz of urine? I'm just guessing and putting in a fraction of a pinch per cup of pee after I pour it into the big OJ container for storage. > > Did everyone pour the sample from the 24 hour storage container into the small plastic lab jar and freeze overnight? I'm concerned that expansion may split the plastic since it's actually going to be in the freezer from tonight till monday morning. > > Thanks! > > > > P.S. My friend Chuck provided great practical advice for KPU testing. He went WAY extreme to make sure there was no light exposure and got three positive results from members of his household, using Vitamin Diagnostics lab. > > Details below: > > Off all supps for 5 days - though I chose to keep in digestive enzymes, fish oils, carnitine and probiotics. My son would totally fall apart without those. > > Tape a black plastic garbage bag over the bathroom window (blue painters tape works great) then also tape a dark colored bath towel to the wall over that for total light exclusion. > > Do this in daylight hours, the day before testing so you can see where the light comes though. > > Remove the bathroom light bulb and replace with a low wattage red party light. > > Put a cooler containing ice packs in the bathtub and keep the day-long pee storage container in there (to avoid the light and EMR in the fridge). > > It seemed like a big deal when he told me of the lengths he went to, but it reality it only took 15 minutes to set up. Now I have a darkroom bathroom for the day.... ;-) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 You might want to look into doing Core from Biopure for KPU. www.biopurious.com It has almost all the supps in it. And the zink is elemental like we should be taking. Its also a lot easier than taking all the separate supps. JoyceSubject: Re: Testing for KPU todayTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 12:09 PM I received the results yesterday - much faster than expected. My son's numbers are slightly below the top end of the reference range, which was a surprise to me. I was expecting him to be way high, considering how quickly he fell apart on the supplement "fast". He was in tears asking to go back on them by the third day because he felt so rotten and out of control. HPL - 238 (ref: 15 - 250) Kryptopyrrol - 13.7 (ref: <15.0) I wonder if I didn't have him off supps for long enough. It was only five days. He's been on zinc, B6, manganese, magnesium etc for so many years and I wonder if that has kept him just below the range of very mild KPU. Perhaps 5 days just wasn't long enough to drain his reserves to get a positive. I'm sure the collection protocol I followed prevented any light exposure. Perhaps freezing for two days was incorrect. Anyway - I'm not going to have him go without supplements for a longer time frame to test again. He's only just getting back to his normal self after two weeks. If there is a different lab I can send a sample to I'll do that - I kept a bunch of pee in the freezer. Is anyone else treating anyway, regardless of a negative test result? I'm going to add P5P and biotin into his supplement list. He was on them a couple of years ago and I have no idea why they were pulled out. Changing zinc brands from Jarrow to Thorne picolinate. Any suggestions for good brands of P5P, Biotin and the others in the KPU protocol? After the Kirkman debacle I'm not feeling too confident in supplement manufacturers. I still haven't found an alternative source for TMG yet..... > > Hi All, > > I haven't been posting here much because of my hectic life, but I have been continuing to research fatty acid metabolism in relation to my son's residual biomedical issues. > > I've come to the conclusion that I'm never going to get the lipid thing straightened out if he has KPU. So many of the conversions are dependent upon the very elements and vitamins that are wasted in KPU. > > I believe he also has low HCL in addition to other digestive issues (IgG food sensitivities that just keep returning) which would make sense if he actually does have KPU. > > Sending today's 24 hour sample to Vitamin Diagnostics in NJ. > > Just wanted to share where I'm at and ask a few questions: > > For people already on the KPU protocol - any changes in skin or hair condition that might indicate improvement in fatty acid metabolism? > > How much ascorbic acid per ml/oz of urine? I'm just guessing and putting in a fraction of a pinch per cup of pee after I pour it into the big OJ container for storage. > > Did everyone pour the sample from the 24 hour storage container into the small plastic lab jar and freeze overnight? I'm concerned that expansion may split the plastic since it's actually going to be in the freezer from tonight till monday morning. > > Thanks! > > > > P.S. My friend Chuck provided great practical advice for KPU testing. He went WAY extreme to make sure there was no light exposure and got three positive results from members of his household, using Vitamin Diagnostics lab. > > Details below: > > Off all supps for 5 days - though I chose to keep in digestive enzymes, fish oils, carnitine and probiotics. My son would totally fall apart without those. > > Tape a black plastic garbage bag over the bathroom window (blue painters tape works great) then also tape a dark colored bath towel to the wall over that for total light exclusion. > > Do this in daylight hours, the day before testing so you can see where the light comes though. > > Remove the bathroom light bulb and replace with a low wattage red party light. > > Put a cooler containing ice packs in the bathtub and keep the day-long pee storage container in there (to avoid the light and EMR in the fridge). > > It seemed like a big deal when he told me of the lengths he went to, but it reality it only took 15 minutes to set up. Now I have a darkroom bathroom for the day.... ;-) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Thanks for the tip. The address was incorrect, but I found it: http://www.biopureus.com Has anyone bought Core and started it yet? Looks like it might be just the right thing for my son since the mg's of each part are not too high. I was concerned the zinc dose might be in the thousands to address severe KPU, but it's only 27mgs. He's on 30 per day as it is now..... > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I haven't been posting here much because of my hectic life, but I have been continuing to research fatty acid metabolism in relation to my son's residual biomedical issues. > > > > > > I've come to the conclusion that I'm never going to get the lipid thing straightened out if he has KPU. So many of the conversions are dependent upon the very elements and vitamins that are wasted in KPU. > > > > > > I believe he also has low HCL in addition to other digestive issues (IgG food sensitivities that just keep returning) which would make sense if he actually does have KPU. > > > > > > Sending today's 24 hour sample to Vitamin Diagnostics in NJ. > > > > > > Just wanted to share where I'm at and ask a few questions: > > > > > > For people already on the KPU protocol - any changes in skin or hair condition that might indicate improvement in fatty acid metabolism? > > > > > > How much ascorbic acid per ml/oz of urine? I'm just guessing and putting in a fraction of a pinch per cup of pee after I pour it into the big OJ container for storage. > > > > > > Did everyone pour the sample from the 24 hour storage container into the small plastic lab jar and freeze overnight? I'm concerned that expansion may split the plastic since it's actually going to be in the freezer from tonight till monday morning. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S. My friend Chuck provided great practical advice for KPU testing. He went WAY extreme to make sure there was no light exposure and got three positive results from members of his household, using Vitamin Diagnostics lab. > > > > > > Details below: > > > > > > Off all supps for 5 days - though I chose to keep in digestive enzymes, fish oils, carnitine and probiotics. My son would totally fall apart without those. > > > > > > Tape a black plastic garbage bag over the bathroom window (blue painters tape works great) then also tape a dark colored bath towel to the wall over that for total light exclusion. > > > > > > Do this in daylight hours, the day before testing so you can see where the light comes though. > > > > > > Remove the bathroom light bulb and replace with a low wattage red party light. > > > > > > Put a cooler containing ice packs in the bathtub and keep the day-long pee storage container in there (to avoid the light and EMR in the fridge). > > > > > > It seemed like a big deal when he told me of the lengths he went to, but it reality it only took 15 minutes to set up. Now I have a darkroom bathroom for the day.... ;-) > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 The dose of zinc in "The Core" is not that low either. The dose for KPU treatment is 27-40mg for most people of elemental zinc. http://betterhealthguy.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content & view=article & id=175:an-update-on-my-kpu-treatment & catid=42:blog & Itemid=61 -- In Better Health, @... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 I use zinc monomethionine from Labs, 30 mg elemental zinc per tab and it wasn't enough for my son. And he has been on zinc (first picolinate and then methionine) for the better part of some 7 years. It got to a point where his vitamin A was high and the DAN! asked us to stop the A. Turns out, you need zinc to move the A along to get to where its needed. I pushed the zinc to 60 mg and then later to 90 mg (I think we stayed at 90 mg for about a month, give or take a few days). I then dropped it back to 60 mg for several days and am now back to 45 mg a day. In all this time zinc never showed up as a stressor, except for zinc " oxide " on the Zyto? Anyway since the zyto I dropped the zinc to 45 mg per day. I do think the touted low dose zinc in the " core " might be low for some kids and they would require additional zinc supplementation. Meanwhile here's the dope on zinc deficiency impacting Vitamin A and thereby iron levels. The Zyto showed my son needed retinol too. http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminA/ " Nutrient interactions Zinc Zinc deficiency is thought to interfere with vitamin A metabolism in several ways: (1) zinc deficiency results in decreased synthesis of retinol binding protein (RBP), which transports retinol through the circulation to tissues (e.g., the retina) and also protects the organism against potential toxicity of retinol; (2) zinc deficiency results in decreased activity of the enzyme that releases retinol from its storage form, retinyl palmitate, in the liver; and (3) zinc is required for the enzyme that converts retinol into retinal (8, 9). At present, the health consequences of zinc deficiency on vitamin A nutritional status in humans are unclear (10). Iron Vitamin A deficiency may exacerbate iron deficiency anemia. Vitamin A supplementation has beneficial effects on iron deficiency anemia and improves iron nutritional status among children and pregnant women. The combination of supplemental vitamin A and iron seems to reduce anemia more effectively than either supplemental iron or vitamin A alone (11). Moreover, studies in rats have shown that iron deficiency alters plasma and liver levels of vitamin A (12, 13). " Gayatri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Gayatri, Our Zyto scans also picked up zinc oxide as stressor twice in a row. I wonder if this is resulted from all that stearic acid in the supplement my son took in the past. When zinc oxide reacts to fatty acids in the oils, it actually forms stearate. I wonder if zinc oxide is actually broken down from stearate in the body. Limin www.healthbylimin.com Young Living Distributor # 1111136 > > > I use zinc monomethionine from Labs, 30 mg elemental zinc per tab and it wasn't enough for my son. And he has been on zinc (first picolinate and then methionine) for the better part of some 7 years. It got to a point where his vitamin A was high and the DAN! asked us to stop the A. Turns out, you need zinc to move the A along to get to where its needed. I pushed the zinc to 60 mg and then later to 90 mg (I think we stayed at 90 mg for about a month, give or take a few days). I then dropped it back to 60 mg for several days and am now back to 45 mg a day. > > In all this time zinc never showed up as a stressor, except for zinc " oxide " on the Zyto? Anyway since the zyto I dropped the zinc to 45 mg per day. I do think the touted low dose zinc in the " core " might be low for some kids and they would require additional zinc supplementation. > > Meanwhile here's the dope on zinc deficiency impacting Vitamin A and thereby iron levels. The Zyto showed my son needed retinol too. > > http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminA/ > > " Nutrient interactions > > Zinc > > Zinc deficiency is thought to interfere with vitamin A metabolism in several ways: (1) zinc deficiency results in decreased synthesis of retinol binding protein (RBP), which transports retinol through the circulation to tissues (e.g., the retina) and also protects the organism against potential toxicity of retinol; (2) zinc deficiency results in decreased activity of the enzyme that releases retinol from its storage form, retinyl palmitate, in the liver; and (3) zinc is required for the enzyme that converts retinol into retinal (8, 9). At present, the health consequences of zinc deficiency on vitamin A nutritional status in humans are unclear (10). > > Iron > > Vitamin A deficiency may exacerbate iron deficiency anemia. Vitamin A supplementation has beneficial effects on iron deficiency anemia and improves iron nutritional status among children and pregnant women. The combination of supplemental vitamin A and iron seems to reduce anemia more effectively than either supplemental iron or vitamin A alone (11). Moreover, studies in rats have shown that iron deficiency alters plasma and liver levels of vitamin A (12, 13). " > > Gayatri > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Hi Limin: Don't know, could be. Do you use diaper cream for the red anal area? We have to regularly, could be coming from there. Got to stop doing that and find something else. We do have upper respiratory issues and I don't want to contribute to that. What is everyone using for red anal area? I tried olive oil a few days but it didn't take the redness away. I have another " natural " one but it too has zinc. http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/zincoxide/recognition.html " HEALTH HAZARD INFORMATION * Routes of Exposure Exposure to zinc oxide can occur through inhalation, ingestion, and eye or skin contact. * Summary of toxicology 1. Effects on Animals: Zinc oxide can affect the lungs and the reproductive system in experimental animals; it is also an experimental mutagen. Topical administration of zinc oxide to rabbits, mice, and guinea pigs failed to cause either skin irritation or signs of systemic toxicity [ACGIH 1991, p. 1754]. The oral LD(50) in mice is 7,950 mg/kg [NIOSH 1991]. The LC(50) in mice is 2,500 mg/m(3) (duration not provided) [NIOSH 1991]. Guinea pigs exposed to 1,000 to 2,600 mg/m(3) zinc oxide for one hour had initial hypothermia followed by an increase in body temperature 6 to 18 hours later [ACGIH 1991, p. 1754]. Rats inhaling 2,500 mg/m(3) for three to four hours died either during or immediately after the exposure [ACGIH 1991, p. 1754]. During a 1-hour inhalation study, guinea pigs inhaling 0.7 mg/m(3) showed no change in pulmonary airway resistance. Progressive diminution in lung compliance was observed in these animals [ACGIH 1991, p. 1754]. Guinea pigs exposed to 5 or 7 mg/m(3) zinc oxide fume for 3 hours/day for 5 and 6 days, respectively, had transient changes in pulmonary function with small airway inflammation and edema. These animals showed reduced total lung capacity, vital capacity, and carbon monoxide diffusion capacity. No adverse effects were observed in guinea pigs exposed to zinc oxide fume at a concentration of 2.7 mg/m(3) [ACGIH 1991, p. 1754]. In a teratogenicity study, rats were administered 100 or 200 mg/kg/day zinc oxide for 21 days prior to mating and throughout pregnancy. Increased fetal deaths and reduced fetal body weights were reported for the 200 mg/kg/day group, but no adverse effects were observed at 100 mg/kg/day [ACGIH 1991, p. 1754]. Zinc oxide was mutagenic in in vitro test systems [NIOSH 1991]. 2. Effects on Humans: Zinc oxide dust is primarily a nuisance dust, but exposures to high concentrations can result in respiratory system effects in humans. Volunteers inhaling 600 mg/m(3) zinc oxide dust for 10 minutes exhibited persistent rales, decreased vital capacity, coughing, upper respiratory tract irritation and substernal pain. Studies have reported that exposures to concentrations up to 430 mg/m(3) zinc oxide, resulted in chest pain [ACGIH 1991, p. 1755]. Inhalation of zinc oxide fume can result in metal fume fever. This in a self limiting condition characterized by flu-like symptoms which resolve within 24 to 48 hours [ACGIH 1991, p. 1755]. Repeated exposures to zinc oxide by skin contact have resulted in papular-pustular skin eruptions in the axilla, inner thigh, inner arm, scrotum and pubic areas [ACGIH 1991]. Epidemiologic studies of zinc refinery workers found no correlation between industrial zinc exposures and lung or other types of cancer [ACGIH 1991]. * Signs and symptoms of exposure 1. Acute exposure: Acute exposure to zinc oxide can result in coughing, substernal pain, upper respiratory tract irritation, rales, chills, fever, nausea, and vomiting. 2. Chronic exposure: Chronic exposure to zinc oxide by skin contact may result in papular-pustular skin eruptions in the axilla, inner thigh, inner arm, scrotum and pubic areas. " Gayatri > > > > > > > I use zinc monomethionine from Labs, 30 mg elemental zinc per tab and it wasn't enough for my son. And he has been on zinc (first picolinate and then methionine) for the better part of some 7 years. It got to a point where his vitamin A was high and the DAN! asked us to stop the A. Turns out, you need zinc to move the A along to get to where its needed. I pushed the zinc to 60 mg and then later to 90 mg (I think we stayed at 90 mg for about a month, give or take a few days). I then dropped it back to 60 mg for several days and am now back to 45 mg a day. > > > > In all this time zinc never showed up as a stressor, except for zinc " oxide " on the Zyto? Anyway since the zyto I dropped the zinc to 45 mg per day. I do think the touted low dose zinc in the " core " might be low for some kids and they would require additional zinc supplementation. > > > > Meanwhile here's the dope on zinc deficiency impacting Vitamin A and thereby iron levels. The Zyto showed my son needed retinol too. > > > > http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminA/ > > > > " Nutrient interactions > > > > Zinc > > > > Zinc deficiency is thought to interfere with vitamin A metabolism in several ways: (1) zinc deficiency results in decreased synthesis of retinol binding protein (RBP), which transports retinol through the circulation to tissues (e.g., the retina) and also protects the organism against potential toxicity of retinol; (2) zinc deficiency results in decreased activity of the enzyme that releases retinol from its storage form, retinyl palmitate, in the liver; and (3) zinc is required for the enzyme that converts retinol into retinal (8, 9). At present, the health consequences of zinc deficiency on vitamin A nutritional status in humans are unclear (10). > > > > Iron > > > > Vitamin A deficiency may exacerbate iron deficiency anemia. Vitamin A supplementation has beneficial effects on iron deficiency anemia and improves iron nutritional status among children and pregnant women. The combination of supplemental vitamin A and iron seems to reduce anemia more effectively than either supplemental iron or vitamin A alone (11). Moreover, studies in rats have shown that iron deficiency alters plasma and liver levels of vitamin A (12, 13). " > > > > Gayatri > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Gayatri, We heavily used those brands of diaper cream a few years ago, when my son was littler and very yeasty. Perhaps of residues of zinc oxide are still in his system. Neem oil and Biopur ozonated rizole oils work well for the red anal area. Limin www.healthbylimin.com Young Living Distributor # 1111136 > Hi Limin: > > Don't know, could be. Do you use diaper cream for the red anal area? We have to regularly, could be coming from there. Got to stop doing that and find something else. We do have upper respiratory issues and I don't want to contribute to that. > > What is everyone using for red anal area? I tried olive oil a few days but it didn't take the redness away. I have another " natural " one but it too has zinc. > > > http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/zincoxide/recognition.html > > " HEALTH HAZARD INFORMATION > > * Routes of Exposure > > Exposure to zinc oxide can occur through inhalation, ingestion, and eye or skin contact. > > * Summary of toxicology > > 1. Effects on Animals: Zinc oxide can affect the lungs and the reproductive system in experimental animals; it is also an experimental mutagen. Topical administration of zinc oxide to rabbits, mice, and guinea pigs failed to cause either skin irritation or signs of systemic toxicity [ACGIH 1991, p. 1754]. The oral LD(50) in mice is 7,950 mg/kg [NIOSH 1991]. The LC(50) in mice is 2,500 mg/m(3) (duration not provided) [NIOSH 1991]. Guinea pigs exposed to 1,000 to 2,600 mg/m(3) zinc oxide for one hour had initial hypothermia followed by an increase in body temperature 6 to 18 hours later [ACGIH 1991, p. 1754]. Rats inhaling 2,500 mg/m(3) for three to four hours died either during or immediately after the exposure [ACGIH 1991, p. 1754]. During a 1-hour inhalation study, guinea pigs inhaling 0.7 mg/m(3) showed no change in pulmonary airway resistance. Progressive diminution in lung compliance was observed in these animals [ACGIH 1991, p. 1754]. Guinea pigs exposed to 5 or 7 mg/m(3) zinc oxide fume for 3 hours/day for 5 and 6 days, respectively, had transient changes in pulmonary function with small airway inflammation and edema. These animals showed reduced total lung capacity, vital capacity, and carbon monoxide diffusion capacity. No adverse effects were observed in guinea pigs exposed to zinc oxide fume at a concentration of 2.7 mg/m(3) [ACGIH 1991, p. 1754]. In a teratogenicity study, rats were administered 100 or 200 mg/kg/day zinc oxide for 21 days prior to mating and throughout pregnancy. Increased fetal deaths and reduced fetal body weights were reported for the 200 mg/kg/day group, but no adverse effects were observed at 100 mg/kg/day [ACGIH 1991, p. 1754]. Zinc oxide was mutagenic in in vitro test systems [NIOSH 1991]. > > 2. Effects on Humans: Zinc oxide dust is primarily a nuisance dust, but exposures to high concentrations can result in respiratory system effects in humans. Volunteers inhaling 600 mg/m(3) zinc oxide dust for 10 minutes exhibited persistent rales, decreased vital capacity, coughing, upper respiratory tract irritation and substernal pain. Studies have reported that exposures to concentrations up to 430 mg/m(3) zinc oxide, resulted in chest pain [ACGIH 1991, p. 1755]. Inhalation of zinc oxide fume can result in metal fume fever. This in a self limiting condition characterized by flu-like symptoms which resolve within 24 to 48 hours [ACGIH 1991, p. 1755]. Repeated exposures to zinc oxide by skin contact have resulted in papular-pustular skin eruptions in the axilla, inner thigh, inner arm, scrotum and pubic areas [ACGIH 1991]. Epidemiologic studies of zinc refinery workers found no correlation between industrial zinc exposures and lung or other types of cancer [ACGIH 1991]. > > * Signs and symptoms of exposure > > 1. Acute exposure: Acute exposure to zinc oxide can result in coughing, substernal pain, upper respiratory tract irritation, rales, chills, fever, nausea, and vomiting. > > 2. Chronic exposure: Chronic exposure to zinc oxide by skin contact may result in papular-pustular skin eruptions in the axilla, inner thigh, inner arm, scrotum and pubic areas. " > > > Gayatri > > > > >> >>> >>> >>> I use zinc monomethionine from Labs, 30 mg elemental zinc per tab and it wasn't enough for my son. And he has been on zinc (first picolinate and then methionine) for the better part of some 7 years. It got to a point where his vitamin A was high and the DAN! asked us to stop the A. Turns out, you need zinc to move the A along to get to where its needed. I pushed the zinc to 60 mg and then later to 90 mg (I think we stayed at 90 mg for about a month, give or take a few days). I then dropped it back to 60 mg for several days and am now back to 45 mg a day. >>> >>> In all this time zinc never showed up as a stressor, except for zinc " oxide " on the Zyto? Anyway since the zyto I dropped the zinc to 45 mg per day. I do think the touted low dose zinc in the " core " might be low for some kids and they would require additional zinc supplementation. >>> >>> Meanwhile here's the dope on zinc deficiency impacting Vitamin A and thereby iron levels. The Zyto showed my son needed retinol too. >>> >>> http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminA/ >>> >>> " Nutrient interactions >>> >>> Zinc >>> >>> Zinc deficiency is thought to interfere with vitamin A metabolism in several ways: (1) zinc deficiency results in decreased synthesis of retinol binding protein (RBP), which transports retinol through the circulation to tissues (e.g., the retina) and also protects the organism against potential toxicity of retinol; (2) zinc deficiency results in decreased activity of the enzyme that releases retinol from its storage form, retinyl palmitate, in the liver; and (3) zinc is required for the enzyme that converts retinol into retinal (8, 9). At present, the health consequences of zinc deficiency on vitamin A nutritional status in humans are unclear (10). >>> >>> Iron >>> >>> Vitamin A deficiency may exacerbate iron deficiency anemia. Vitamin A supplementation has beneficial effects on iron deficiency anemia and improves iron nutritional status among children and pregnant women. The combination of supplemental vitamin A and iron seems to reduce anemia more effectively than either supplemental iron or vitamin A alone (11). Moreover, studies in rats have shown that iron deficiency alters plasma and liver levels of vitamin A (12, 13). " >>> >>> Gayatri >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------ >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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