Re: Bullied LINDA

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"For victims of bullying, the most dangerous part of the school day is the break between classes when they leave the protection of adults and are vulnerable to the taunts and ridicule of their peers.

This is from the review of the book. This is exactly when they strike. The worst is when an aide walks him from the school to the bus (disability bus). These kids are relentless and the aide said nothing to these kids. can verbally hold his own but can't. It crushes him when they tell him "trains are gay". All in all he last way longer than I would have.....4 days until the end of school. is so remoseful and sad and told the officials to tell the boy he is sorry. He is being very hard on himself. NOTHING has come from the other kid.

I'll order the book for sure.

My DD and I are considering the Gateway Program. He can go at his pace which is fast but at the college. It will not only give him his high school diploma but a 2 years AA degree paid for by his school district. It is a wait and see right now. At least we have a Plan B.

Thanks

Lorelie....herding cats today. I taught the boys how to wash Chris' truck. :0

To: aspires-relationships From: opu@...Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:35:46 -0700Subject: Bullied

If your child is being bullied...stop at nothing to make sure it gets taken care of. Too many at the schools think the kids should learn to handle it. One kid....maybe, next kid, maybe impossible. is 15, sweetest kid ever. For 8 month some high school kids have been bullying him, picking on him because he loves trains. The offeners have been spoken to, their parents have been spoken to, so many teachers, including his aide, have ignored it.

An interesting book I just got for reciew is, Four Minutes a Day; A Parents Guide for Victims of Entertainment Bullying in School Hallways.by L.C. Bernard.The hypothetical victim sounds very much like a child with AS but this is geared for all kids That are victims of bullying. It is short, sweet and to the point. It is only 50 pages long. You can take this technique and adapt it to any part of the school day.

http://www.amazon.com/Four-Minutes-Day-E-C-Bernard/dp/0979320070

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Hello!I was a vixtim of bullying in school also. I wore glasses so I got to hear all the 4 eyed jokes, and I was stocky so I got the fat jokes too.I was the oldest of 8 children so my parents made me promise MANY times to not to get into any fight where my glasses could get broke!I had to run aay from fights, and life was hell when the bullies learned I ran from fights. Every time they saw me they would chase me, and beat on me to impress their girl friends. I had to be extra vigilant to take other ways home, and to classes.Finally, I transferred to a diferent high school for my last 3 years! I could concentrate to getting high grades, and blowing curves.Not a lot of fun to recall unplesant memories. Have a

great weekend! Heat index of 110 here.TerrySubject: RE: Bullied LINDATo: "aspires-relationships" <aspires-relationships >Date: Saturday, June 12, 2010, 4:51 PM

"For victims of bullying, the most dangerous part of the school day is the break between classes when they leave the protection of adults and are vulnerable to the taunts and ridicule of their peers.

This is from the review of the book. This is exactly when they strike. The worst is when an aide walks him from the school to the bus (disability bus). These kids are relentless and the aide said nothing to these kids. can verbally hold his own but can't. It crushes him when they tell him "trains are gay". All in all he last way longer than I would have.....4 days until the end of school. is so remoseful and sad and told the officials to tell the boy he is sorry. He is being very hard on himself. NOTHING has come from the other kid.

I'll order the book for sure.

My DD and I are considering the Gateway Program. He can go at his pace which is fast but at the college. It will not only give him his high school diploma but a 2 years AA degree paid for by his school district. It is a wait and see right now. At least we have a Plan B.

Thanks

Lorelie....herding cats today. I taught the boys how to wash Chris' truck. :0

To: aspires-relationshi psyahoogroups (DOT) comFrom: opubendbroadband (DOT) comDate: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:35:46 -0700Subject: [aspires-relationsh ips] Bullied

If your child is being bullied...stop at nothing to make sure it gets taken care of. Too many at the schools think the kids should learn to handle it. One kid....maybe, next kid, maybe impossible. is 15, sweetest kid ever. For 8 month some high school kids have been bullying him, picking on him because he loves trains. The offeners have been spoken to, their parents have been spoken to, so many teachers, including his aide, have ignored it.

An interesting book I just got for reciew is, Four Minutes a Day; A Parents Guide for Victims of Entertainment Bullying in School Hallways.by L.C. Bernard.The hypothetical victim sounds very much like a child with AS but this is geared for all kids That are victims of bullying. It is short, sweet and to the point. It is only 50 pages long. You can take this technique and adapt it to any part of the school day.

http://www.amazon. com/Four- Minutes-Day- E-C-Bernard/ dp/0979320070

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so sorry you went thru that Terry :-((

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To: aspires-relationships Sent: Sat, June 12, 2010 6:09:31 PMSubject: RE: Bullied LINDA

Hello!I was a vixtim of bullying in school also. I wore glasses so I got to hear all the 4 eyed jokes, and I was stocky so I got the fat jokes too.I was the oldest of 8 children so my parents made me promise MANY times to not to get into any fight where my glasses could get broke!I had to run aay from fights, and life was hell when the bullies learned I ran from fights. Every time they saw me they would chase me, and beat on me to impress their girl friends. I had to be extra vigilant to take other ways home, and to classes.Finally, I transferred to a diferent high school for my last 3 years! I could concentrate to getting high grades, and blowing curves.Not a lot of fun to recall unplesant memories. Have a great weekend! Heat index of 110 here.Terry---

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From: Lorelie YOUNG <Lorelie49msn (DOT) com>Subject: RE: [aspires-relationsh ips] Bullied LINDATo: "aspires-relationsh ips" <aspires-relationshi psyahoogroups (DOT) com>Date: Saturday, June 12, 2010, 4:51 PM

"For victims of bullying, the most dangerous part of the school day is the break between classes when they leave the protection of adults and are vulnerable to the taunts and ridicule of their peers. This is from the review of the book. This is exactly when they strike. The worst is when an aide walks him from the school to the bus (disability bus). These kids are relentless and the aide said nothing to these kids. can verbally hold his own but can't. It crushes him when they tell him "trains are gay". All in all he last way longer than I would have.....4 days until the end of school. is so remoseful and sad and told the officials to tell the boy he is sorry. He is being very hard on himself. NOTHING has come from the other kid. I'll order the book for sure. My DD and I are considering the Gateway Program. He can go at his pace which is fast but at the college. It will

not only give him his high school diploma but a 2 years AA degree paid for by his school district. It is a wait and see right now. At least we have a Plan B. Thanks Lorelie....herding cats today. I taught the boys how to wash Chris' truck. :0

To: aspires-relationshi psyahoogroups (DOT) comFrom: opubendbroadband (DOT) comDate: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:35:46 -0700Subject: [aspires-relationsh ips] Bullied

If your child is being bullied...stop at nothing to make sure it gets taken care of. Too many at the schools think the kids should learn to handle it. One kid....maybe, next kid, maybe impossible. is 15, sweetest kid ever. For 8 month some high school kids have been bullying him, picking on him because he loves trains. The offeners have been spoken to, their parents have been spoken to, so many teachers, including his aide, have ignored it.

An interesting book I just got for reciew is, Four Minutes a Day; A Parents Guide for Victims of Entertainment Bullying in School Hallways.by L.C. Bernard.The hypothetical victim sounds very much like a child with AS but this is geared for all kids That are victims of bullying. It is short, sweet and to the point. It is only 50 pages long. You can take this technique and adapt it to any part of the school day.

http://www.amazon. com/Four- Minutes-Day- E-C-Bernard/ dp/0979320070

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hi Loreli

I hope things turn around for !!!

hugs

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To: aspires-relationships <aspires-relationships >Sent: Sat, June 12, 2010 5:51:25 PMSubject: RE: Bullied LINDA

"For victims of bullying, the most dangerous part of the school day is the break between classes when they leave the protection of adults and are vulnerable to the taunts and ridicule of their peers. This is from the review of the book. This is exactly when they strike. The worst is when an aide walks him from the school to the bus (disability bus). These kids are relentless and the aide said nothing to these kids. can verbally hold his own but can't. It crushes him when they tell him "trains are gay". All in all he last way longer than I would have.....4 days until the end of school. is so remoseful and sad and told the officials to tell the boy he is sorry. He is being very hard on himself. NOTHING has come from the other kid. I'll order the book for sure. My DD and I are considering the Gateway Program. He can go at his pace which is fast but at the college. It will

not only give him his high school diploma but a 2 years AA degree paid for by his school district. It is a wait and see right now. At least we have a Plan B. Thanks Lorelie....herding cats today. I taught the boys how to wash Chris' truck. :0

To: aspires-relationshi psyahoogroups (DOT) comFrom: opubendbroadband (DOT) comDate: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:35:46 -0700Subject: [aspires-relationsh ips] Bullied

If your child is being bullied...stop at nothing to make sure it gets taken care of. Too many at the schools think the kids should learn to handle it. One kid....maybe, next kid, maybe impossible. is 15, sweetest kid ever. For 8 month some high school kids have been bullying him, picking on him because he loves trains. The offeners have been spoken to, their parents have been spoken to, so many teachers, including his aide, have ignored it.

An interesting book I just got for reciew is, Four Minutes a Day; A Parents Guide for Victims of Entertainment Bullying in School Hallways.by L.C. Bernard.The hypothetical victim sounds very much like a child with AS but this is geared for all kids That are victims of bullying. It is short, sweet and to the point. It is only 50 pages long. You can take this technique and adapt it to any part of the school day.

http://www.amazon. com/Four- Minutes-Day- E-C-Bernard/ dp/0979320070

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I have to mention here that there are some school districts that enforce a no

bullying rule. We're in one.

My daughter, " Ocelot " is now 14 and in high school (and is PDD-NOS). We moved

here when she was in 4th grade. During that year, a girl put a thumbtack on her

chair -- and the principal and teacher came down on the other girl like a ton of

bricks! This was that girl's first -- and last -- attempt at bullying.

Ocelot is sensitive to noises like tongue clicking. In middle school, when some

boys found out, they started teasing her -- it lasted 2 days before they were in

deep trouble. This happened, with the same result, in high school. At one point,

Ocelot was shadowed in the halls by an aide, looking to catch the teasers in the

act.

My NT son is in 3rd grade. From Kindergarten, they have social skills curriculum

every week, for ALL students. They cover bullying and conflict resolution and

this year, are using Winner's Superflex program to teach social

thinking ... again, to every student in elementary school, in every elementary

school in our district. [6 elementary, 2 middle, one high school]

I hang out on the playground before school ... I rarely see any rough play, and

never see actual bullying. I have stepped in during rough play, to make sure

everyone is enjoying it -- and to tell the kids that if anyone says " Stop " , they

must stop. They all understand this and comply. [There are a couple of

moderately autistic kids at school ... even they are completely safe from

bullying, maybe more so than the NT kids.]

I wish all schools were like this.

--Liz

>

>

> Hello!

>

> I was a vixtim of bullying in school also. I wore glasses so I got to hear all

the 4 eyed jokes, and I was stocky so I got the fat jokes too.

>

> I was the oldest of 8 children so my parents made me promise MANY times to not

to get into any fight where my glasses could get broke!

>

> I had to run aay from fights, and life was hell when the bullies learned I ran

from fights. Every time they saw me they would chase me, and beat on me to

impress their girl friends. I had to be extra vigilant to take other ways home,

and to classes.

>

> Finally, I transferred to a diferent high school for my last 3 years! I could

concentrate to getting high grades, and blowing curves.

>

> Not a lot of fun to recall unplesant memories. Have a great weekend! Heat

index of 110 here.

>

> Terry

>

>

>

>

> Subject: RE: Bullied LINDA

> To: " aspires-relationships " <aspires-relationships >

> Date: Saturday, June 12, 2010, 4:51 PM

>

> " For victims of bullying, the most dangerous part of the school day is the

break between classes when they leave the protection of adults and are

vulnerable to the taunts and ridicule of their peers.

>

> This is from the review of the book. This is exactly when they strike. The

worst is when an aide walks him from the school to the bus (disability bus).

These kids are relentless and the aide said nothing to these kids. can

verbally hold his own but can't. It crushes him when they tell him " trains

are gay " . All in all he last way longer than I would have.....4 days until the

end of school. is so remoseful and sad and told the officials to tell the

boy he is sorry. He is being very hard on himself. NOTHING has come from the

other kid.

>

> I'll order the book for sure.

>

> My DD and I are considering the Gateway Program. He can go at his pace which

is fast but at the college. It will not only give him his high school diploma

but a 2 years AA degree paid for by his school district. It is a wait and see

right now. At least we have a Plan B.

>

> Thanks

>

> Lorelie....herding cats today. I taught the boys how to wash Chris' truck. :0

>

>

>

>

> To: aspires-relationshi psyahoogroups (DOT) com

> From: opubendbroadband (DOT) com

> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:35:46 -0700

> Subject: [aspires-relationsh ips] Bullied

>

>

> If your child is being bullied...stop at nothing to make sure it gets taken

care of. Too many at the schools think the kids should learn to handle it. One

kid....maybe, next kid, maybe impossible. is 15, sweetest kid ever. For 8

month some high school kids have been bullying him, picking on him because he

loves trains. The offeners have been spoken to, their parents have been spoken

to, so many teachers, including his aide, have ignored it.

>

> An interesting book I just got for reciew is, Four Minutes a Day; A Parents

Guide for Victims of Entertainment Bullying in School Hallways.by L.C. Bernard.

> The hypothetical victim sounds very much like a child with AS but this is

geared for all kids That are victims of bullying. It is short, sweet and to the

point. It is only 50 pages long. You can take this technique and adapt it to

any part of the school day.

>

> http://www.amazon. com/Four- Minutes-Day- E-C-Bernard/ dp/0979320070

>

> Just me.

>

>

>

>

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> Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox.

Learn more.

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Liz, your story is amazing and so beyond anything in my experience.

These days it seems that with budget cuts and all, schools have enough

trouble handling the basics. Let alone becoming vigilant to the more

subtle instances of bullying that you describe.

In what region is this school district?

Is the school to which you are referring public or private?

Is the overall area served by this district more affluent than

surrounding communities?

Is " Ocelot " your daughter's real given name?

Just trying to understand, that's all. It all sounds almost too good to

be true. What lucky kids they are indeed.

Best,

~CJ

Liz Cademy wrote:

<< I have to mention here that there are some school districts that

enforce a no bullying rule. We're in one.

My daughter, " Ocelot " is now 14 and in high school (and is PDD-NOS). We

moved here when she was in 4th grade. During that year, a girl put a

thumbtack on her chair -- and the principal and teacher came down on the

other girl like a ton of bricks! This was that girl's first -- and last

-- attempt at bullying.

Ocelot is sensitive to noises like tongue clicking. In middle school,

when some boys found out, they started teasing her -- it lasted 2 days

before they were in deep trouble. This happened, with the same result,

in high school. At one point, Ocelot was shadowed in the halls by an

aide, looking to catch the teasers in the act.

My NT son is in 3rd grade. From Kindergarten, they have social skills

curriculum every week, for ALL students. They cover bullying and

conflict resolution and this year, are using Winner's

Superflex program to teach social thinking ... again, to every student

in elementary school, in every elementary school in our district. [6

elementary, 2 middle, one high school]

I hang out on the playground before school ... I rarely see any rough

play, and never see actual bullying. I have stepped in during rough

play, to make sure everyone is enjoying it -- and to tell the kids that

if anyone says " Stop " , they must stop. They all understand this and

comply. [There are a couple of moderately autistic kids at school ...

even they are completely safe from bullying, maybe more so than the NT

kids.]

I wish all schools were like this. >>

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I wish schools had been like this in the 60s! ~ "Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be normal."--Albert Camus Sent from my VZW BlackBerryDate: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 20:12:02 -0400To: <aspires-relationships >Subject: Re: Bullied LINDA I have to mention here that there are some school districts that enforce a no bullying rule. We're in one.My daughter, " Ocelot " is now 14 and in high school (and is PDD-NOS). We moved here when she was in 4th grade. During that year, a girl put a thumbtack on her chair -- and the principal and teacher came down on the other girl like a ton of bricks! This was that girl's first -- and last -- attempt at bullying.Ocelot is sensitive to noises like tongue clicking. In middle school, when some boys found out, they started teasing her -- it lasted 2 days before they were in deep trouble. This happened, with the same result, in high school. At one point, Ocelot was shadowed in the halls by an aide, looking to catch the teasers in the act.My NT son is in 3rd grade. From Kindergarten, they have social skills curriculum every week, for ALL students. They cover bullying and conflict resolution and this year, are using Winner's Superflex program to teach social thinking ... again, to every student in elementary school, in every elementary school in our district. [6 elementary, 2 middle, one high school]I hang out on the playground before school ... I rarely see any rough play, and never see actual bullying. I have stepped in during rough play, to make sure everyone is enjoying it -- and to tell the kids that if anyone says " Stop " , they must stop. They all understand this and comply. [There are a couple of moderately autistic kids at school ... even they are completely safe from bullying, maybe more so than the NT kids.]I wish all schools were like this.--Liz> > > Hello!> > I was a vixtim of bullying in school also. I wore glasses so I got to hear all the 4 eyed jokes, and I was stocky so I got the fat jokes too.> > I was the oldest of 8 children so my parents made me promise MANY times to not to get into any fight where my glasses could get broke!> > I had to run aay from fights, and life was hell when the bullies learned I ran from fights. Every time they saw me they would chase me, and beat on me to impress their girl friends. I had to be extra vigilant to take other ways home, and to classes.> > Finally, I transferred to a diferent high school for my last 3 years! I could concentrate to getting high grades, and blowing curves.> > Not a lot of fun to recall unplesant memories. Have a great weekend! Heat index of 110 here.> > Terry> > > > > Subject: RE: Bullied LINDA> To: " aspires-relationships " <aspires-relationships >> Date: Saturday, June 12, 2010, 4:51 PM> > " For victims of bullying, the most dangerous part of the school day is the break between classes when they leave the protection of adults and are vulnerable to the taunts and ridicule of their peers. > > This is from the review of the book. This is exactly when they strike. The worst is when an aide walks him from the school to the bus (disability bus). These kids are relentless and the aide said nothing to these kids. can verbally hold his own but can't. It crushes him when they tell him " trains are gay " . All in all he last way longer than I would have.....4 days until the end of school. is so remoseful and sad and told the officials to tell the boy he is sorry. He is being very hard on himself. NOTHING has come from the other kid. > > I'll order the book for sure.> > My DD and I are considering the Gateway Program. He can go at his pace which is fast but at the college. It will not only give him his high school diploma but a 2 years AA degree paid for by his school district. It is a wait and see right now. At least we have a Plan B.> > Thanks > > Lorelie....herding cats today. I taught the boys how to wash Chris' truck. :0> > > > > To: aspires-relationshi psyahoogroups (DOT) com> From: opubendbroadband (DOT) com> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:35:46 -0700> Subject: [aspires-relationsh ips] Bullied> > > If your child is being bullied...stop at nothing to make sure it gets taken care of. Too many at the schools think the kids should learn to handle it. One kid....maybe, next kid, maybe impossible. is 15, sweetest kid ever. For 8 month some high school kids have been bullying him, picking on him because he loves trains. The offeners have been spoken to, their parents have been spoken to, so many teachers, including his aide, have ignored it.> > An interesting book I just got for reciew is, Four Minutes a Day; A Parents Guide for Victims of Entertainment Bullying in School Hallways.by L.C. Bernard.> The hypothetical victim sounds very much like a child with AS but this is geared for all kids That are victims of bullying. It is short, sweet and to the point. It is only 50 pages long. You can take this technique and adapt it to any part of the school day.> > http://www.amazon. com/Four- Minutes-Day- E-C-Bernard/ dp/0979320070> > Just me.> > > > > > Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Learn more.> > > ------------The Aspie Parent blog: http://aspergersparent.wordpress.com/SF, science, and Gifted Ed butons, mugs, and other items at http://www.zazzle.com/CartesianBear*Higher Quality Adult & kid shirts at http://www.printfection.com/cartesianbear

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> Liz, your story is amazing and so beyond anything in my experience.

It is an amazing school district ... they also freely give special ed services

to kids who you would never even think remotely qualify for it.

> In what region is this school district?

> Is the school to which you are referring public or private?

> Is the overall area served by this district more affluent than

> surrounding communities?

We're in suburban Boston, and this is the public school district in our town.

But our town is not a " typical American town " ... we're known as the suburb

Harvard and MIT professors move to to rear their kids in the suburbs. We also

have a very high per capita rate of Nobel laureates ... and I think Spectrum

runs higher in this group than in many others. [My husband is a PhD in

Engineering, working in a MIT-associated lab -- just a typical town citizen.]

Parents are also very involved in education here, and quite willing to step in

and advocate for their kids. I've heard from teacher friends in the area (not my

town) that our district is a hard one to teach in, as teachers' actions are

seriously questioned by parents -- many of whom know more than the teachers!

We moved here on a bit of luck ... originally we were planning to live further

out in the 'burbs, but then DH commuted in to deepest Cambridge for a week --

and decided we *must* live closer in. I'd heard rumors of how good the schools

were, so we looked here first ... and bought the first house we looked at. [it

wasn't perfect, we knew we'd have to remodel it, and have done so.]

> Is " Ocelot " your daughter's real given name?

No. I belong to several public (anyone can join) e-lists for parents of gifted

kids, and got in the habit of using pseudonyms there. That's also why I don't

mention my town name on list, though I'll share with anyone privately,

especially if they have a good reason to know.

> Just trying to understand, that's all. It all sounds almost too good to

> be true. What lucky kids they are indeed.

We are incredibly lucky to live in " Spectrum City "

--Liz