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Please take the lactulose as the doctor prescribed....please please please....I

didn't......I would only take it once a week and believe me the confustion gets

really bad.  I love it now because it really helps with the confusion and my

family is at more ease.....they are important.........I am here for you!

Lyncia

 

My life is really different now, but it is my life.  God helps us choose our

path!

Subject: Re: lactulose

To: livercirrhosissupport

Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 8:41 PM

Oh, , I'm so sorry you had to go through that.  I do think you'll be

feeling much better very soon.  The 'crap flood' isn't a welcome event, but the

clearer head surely is!  I'm continuing to pray for you sweetie!  Love you!

Diane

____________ _________ _________ __

From: crazygirlmcc <CrazygirlMCC@ hotmail.com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 7:29:44 PM

Subject: lactulose

The hopital started me on 45ml a day for now and will increase if they

need to. I was so confused this morning when folding a shirt to put it

away I just stopped and stared at the shirt thinking " what am i doing "

I just put the shirt down and walked away. I took a shower and two

hours later asked if i had taken a shower. it was scary to be so out

of it, i'm waiting for the crap flood to take place now lol.

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well, is 45ml a lot? I started yesterday afternoon so i had 30 ml, now

I take another 15ml three different times today. Still no bowel

movement but i do have abdominal pain and feel pretty nauseous. I also

was prescribed vitamin d and told to start taking calcium. My brain is

definately not itself yet. It's really the worst when I just wake up

or start getting more tired than normal for me. My husband notices it

much more than me and when i'm " clear headed " he will tell me what

questions i was asking out of left field. My conversational skills are

pretty affected cuz when I'm in the middle of talking my whole brain

will get swiped clean and I don't know what I was saying. I also had

alot of trouble yesterday with trying to balance my checkbook, it was

so hard for me to transfer things from my computer into my checkbook.

Last night I asked, did I go to the doctors today? I knew that I went

to the doctors but had no details to tell. I just forget stuff all the

time. I applied for ssi and they said I qualify but have to wait 5

months to know if I get accepted. When I try to remember stuff I will

sit and think for a long time. I've started writing down when I take

my pills and I set the alarm in my phone for three different times to

take the lactulose. How much do you all take? does this mean i'm

getting sicker? when should i expect it to start moving my bowels? how

bad is it?

On a side note, I cried when in the doctors office. It's very scary to

be aware... like I'm fighting away a dumber me but I don't always win.

I hope that makes sense. I would appreciate hearing everyones answers

to the questions to know if I am similar to others.

>

>

> Subject: Re: lactulose

> To: livercirrhosissupport

> Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 8:41 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Oh, , I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I do think

you'll be feeling much better very soon. The 'crap flood' isn't a

welcome event, but the clearer head surely is! I'm continuing to pray

for you sweetie! Love you!

>

> Diane

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: crazygirlmcc <CrazygirlMCC@ hotmail.com>

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 7:29:44 PM

> Subject: lactulose

>

> The hopital started me on 45ml a day for now and will increase if they

> need to. I was so confused this morning when folding a shirt to put it

> away I just stopped and stared at the shirt thinking " what am i doing "

> I just put the shirt down and walked away. I took a shower and two

> hours later asked if i had taken a shower. it was scary to be so out

> of it, i'm waiting for the crap flood to take place now lol.

>

>

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It took a while for the bowel movements to begin, but the gas.......oh how it

stinks but that I guess is the chemicals moving out.......If you are worried

call and ask the doctor about the bowels movements.  They gave me zophran for

the nauesea (thank goodness) and then told me it WAS NOT from my liver......I

don't agree.........I truly love Lactulose.........especially after the bowel

movements.  Getting ready to drink mine now.

Lyncia

 

My life is really different now, but it is my life.  God helps us choose our

path!

Subject: Re: lactulose - Lyncia

To: livercirrhosissupport

Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 8:32 AM

well, is 45ml a lot? I started yesterday afternoon so i had 30 ml, now

I take another 15ml three different times today. Still no bowel

movement but i do have abdominal pain and feel pretty nauseous. I also

was prescribed vitamin d and told to start taking calcium. My brain is

definately not itself yet. It's really the worst when I just wake up

or start getting more tired than normal for me. My husband notices it

much more than me and when i'm " clear headed " he will tell me what

questions i was asking out of left field. My conversational skills are

pretty affected cuz when I'm in the middle of talking my whole brain

will get swiped clean and I don't know what I was saying. I also had

alot of trouble yesterday with trying to balance my checkbook, it was

so hard for me to transfer things from my computer into my checkbook.

Last night I asked, did I go to the doctors today? I knew that I went

to the doctors but had no details to tell. I just forget stuff all the

time. I applied for ssi and they said I qualify but have to wait 5

months to know if I get accepted. When I try to remember stuff I will

sit and think for a long time. I've started writing down when I take

my pills and I set the alarm in my phone for three different times to

take the lactulose. How much do you all take? does this mean i'm

getting sicker? when should i expect it to start moving my bowels? how

bad is it?

On a side note, I cried when in the doctors office. It's very scary to

be aware... like I'm fighting away a dumber me but I don't always win.

I hope that makes sense. I would appreciate hearing everyones answers

to the questions to know if I am similar to others.

>

> From: diane chandler <dianechandler@ ...>

> Subject: Re: lactulose

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 8:41 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Oh, , I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I do think

you'll be feeling much better very soon. The 'crap flood' isn't a

welcome event, but the clearer head surely is! I'm continuing to pray

for you sweetie! Love you!

>

> Diane

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: crazygirlmcc <CrazygirlMCC@ hotmail.com>

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 7:29:44 PM

> Subject: lactulose

>

> The hopital started me on 45ml a day for now and will increase if they

> need to. I was so confused this morning when folding a shirt to put it

> away I just stopped and stared at the shirt thinking " what am i doing "

> I just put the shirt down and walked away. I took a shower and two

> hours later asked if i had taken a shower. it was scary to be so out

> of it, i'm waiting for the crap flood to take place now lol.

>

>

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Please make sure to drink water, not to over do it, but just drink enough to

ensure the lactulose will work properly, and that if the bowel movements get too

loose, it can cause dehydration, and that could worsen the encephalopathy.

15 ml at a time is pretty light. I have been on it for several years now, and it

takes 45 ml , 3 times a day in order to work. I get nauseated sometimes after

taking it, but eating lessens this. I also eat high fiber foods, like granola to

help it along. It's really great, because I can go use the rest room, and come

out here, and get on the computer, and type really really fast. Any other time,

no way. My life revolves now around the clear/fog brain cycle.

Love, Bobby

long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer

________________________________

To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 7:32:36 AM

Subject: Re: lactulose - Lyncia

well, is 45ml a lot? I started yesterday afternoon so i had 30 ml, now

I take another 15ml three different times today. Still no bowel

movement but i do have abdominal pain and feel pretty nauseous. I also

was prescribed vitamin d and told to start taking calcium. My brain is

definately not itself yet. It's really the worst when I just wake up

or start getting more tired than normal for me. My husband notices it

much more than me and when i'm " clear headed " he will tell me what

questions i was asking out of left field. My conversational skills are

pretty affected cuz when I'm in the middle of talking my whole brain

will get swiped clean and I don't know what I was saying. I also had

alot of trouble yesterday with trying to balance my checkbook, it was

so hard for me to transfer things from my computer into my checkbook.

Last night I asked, did I go to the doctors today? I knew that I went

to the doctors but had no details to tell. I just forget stuff all the

time. I applied for ssi and they said I qualify but have to wait 5

months to know if I get accepted. When I try to remember stuff I will

sit and think for a long time. I've started writing down when I take

my pills and I set the alarm in my phone for three different times to

take the lactulose. How much do you all take? does this mean i'm

getting sicker? when should i expect it to start moving my bowels? how

bad is it?

On a side note, I cried when in the doctors office. It's very scary to

be aware... like I'm fighting away a dumber me but I don't always win.

I hope that makes sense. I would appreciate hearing everyones answers

to the questions to know if I am similar to others.

>

> From: diane chandler <dianechandler@ ...>

> Subject: Re: lactulose

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 8:41 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Oh, , I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I do think

you'll be feeling much better very soon. The 'crap flood' isn't a

welcome event, but the clearer head surely is! I'm continuing to pray

for you sweetie! Love you!

>

> Diane

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: crazygirlmcc <CrazygirlMCC@ hotmail.com>

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 7:29:44 PM

> Subject: lactulose

>

> The hopital started me on 45ml a day for now and will increase if they

> need to. I was so confused this morning when folding a shirt to put it

> away I just stopped and stared at the shirt thinking " what am i doing "

> I just put the shirt down and walked away. I took a shower and two

> hours later asked if i had taken a shower. it was scary to be so out

> of it, i'm waiting for the crap flood to take place now lol.

>

>

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It is hilariousness how you can look up all of the symptoms of liver disease.

Among them are; nausea, fatigue, upper left quadrant pain, muscle weakness,

immune deficiency, bone loss, and osteoporosis, etc

But when ever I complain about a symptom, I get the same thing... Oh, that

symptom is not likely your liver at all.

If your right upper quadrant pain was attributed to your liver, then ALL

cirrhosis patients would have it.

Huh? Oh, NO, you need to remember that everybody is DIFFERENT. We all have

different reactions to diseases.

BUT- then again, if thrush were a result of liver disease, then ALL of our

patients would have it. See a pattern here, ??

I finally typed out a from letter and gave it to all of my doctors and it helped

at least get the record straight.

Bobby has the following symptoms and signs of end stage

liver disease as detailed by the National Library of

Medicine

and the National Institutes of Health

pain in the right upper quadrant,fatigue,weakness,lethargy,exaustion

nausea

itching-pruritus

painful, enlarged breasts (gynocomastia)

pale stools

difficult to control nosebleeds

bloody stools

PORTAL HYPERTENSION

upper left quadrant pain-splenomegaly

Hepatic encephalopathy-- (all these have increased in the last 6 months)

inversion of sleep pattern

severe clumsiness at times (ataxia)

lack of fine motor skills

tremors

lessened ability to perform mental tasks

shortened attention span

easily agitated

euphoria

short term memory loss

fluttery vision (nystagmus)

visual disturbances

hallucinations

communication problems

Love, Bobby

long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer

________________________________

To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 1:38:57 PM

Subject: Re: lactulose - Lyncia

It took a while for the bowel movements to begin, but the gas.......oh how it

stinks but that I guess is the chemicals moving out.......If you are worried

call and ask the doctor about the bowels movements. They gave me zophran for

the nauesea (thank goodness) and then told me it WAS NOT from my liver......I

don't agree....... ..I truly love Lactulose... ......especially after the bowel

movements. Getting ready to drink mine now.

Lyncia

My life is really different now, but it is my life. God helps us choose our

path!

From: crazygirlmcc <CrazygirlMCC@ hotmail.com>

Subject: Re: lactulose - Lyncia

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 8:32 AM

well, is 45ml a lot? I started yesterday afternoon so i had 30 ml, now

I take another 15ml three different times today. Still no bowel

movement but i do have abdominal pain and feel pretty nauseous. I also

was prescribed vitamin d and told to start taking calcium. My brain is

definately not itself yet. It's really the worst when I just wake up

or start getting more tired than normal for me. My husband notices it

much more than me and when i'm " clear headed " he will tell me what

questions i was asking out of left field. My conversational skills are

pretty affected cuz when I'm in the middle of talking my whole brain

will get swiped clean and I don't know what I was saying. I also had

alot of trouble yesterday with trying to balance my checkbook, it was

so hard for me to transfer things from my computer into my checkbook.

Last night I asked, did I go to the doctors today? I knew that I went

to the doctors but had no details to tell. I just forget stuff all the

time. I applied for ssi and they said I qualify but have to wait 5

months to know if I get accepted. When I try to remember stuff I will

sit and think for a long time. I've started writing down when I take

my pills and I set the alarm in my phone for three different times to

take the lactulose. How much do you all take? does this mean i'm

getting sicker? when should i expect it to start moving my bowels? how

bad is it?

On a side note, I cried when in the doctors office. It's very scary to

be aware... like I'm fighting away a dumber me but I don't always win.

I hope that makes sense. I would appreciate hearing everyones answers

to the questions to know if I am similar to others.

>

> From: diane chandler <dianechandler@ ...>

> Subject: Re: lactulose

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 8:41 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Oh, , I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I do think

you'll be feeling much better very soon. The 'crap flood' isn't a

welcome event, but the clearer head surely is! I'm continuing to pray

for you sweetie! Love you!

>

> Diane

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: crazygirlmcc <CrazygirlMCC@ hotmail.com>

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 7:29:44 PM

> Subject: lactulose

>

> The hopital started me on 45ml a day for now and will increase if they

> need to. I was so confused this morning when folding a shirt to put it

> away I just stopped and stared at the shirt thinking " what am i doing "

> I just put the shirt down and walked away. I took a shower and two

> hours later asked if i had taken a shower. it was scary to be so out

> of it, i'm waiting for the crap flood to take place now lol.

>

>

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I am taking 20 grams of kristalose......once a day.......

Lyncia

 

My life is really different now, but it is my life.  God helps us choose our

path!

Subject: Re: lactulose - Lyncia

To: livercirrhosissupport

Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 5:06 PM

Please make sure to drink water, not to over do it, but just drink enough to

ensure the lactulose will work properly, and that if the bowel movements get too

loose, it can cause dehydration, and that could worsen the encephalopathy.

15 ml at a time is pretty light. I have been on it for several years now, and it

takes 45 ml , 3 times a day in order to work. I get nauseated sometimes after

taking it, but eating lessens this. I also eat high fiber foods, like granola to

help it along. It's really great, because I can go use the rest room, and come

out here, and get on the computer, and type really really fast. Any other time,

no way. My life revolves now around the clear/fog brain cycle.

Love, Bobby

long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer

____________ _________ _________ __

From: crazygirlmcc <CrazygirlMCC@ hotmail.com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 7:32:36 AM

Subject: Re: lactulose - Lyncia

well, is 45ml a lot? I started yesterday afternoon so i had 30 ml, now

I take another 15ml three different times today. Still no bowel

movement but i do have abdominal pain and feel pretty nauseous. I also

was prescribed vitamin d and told to start taking calcium. My brain is

definately not itself yet. It's really the worst when I just wake up

or start getting more tired than normal for me. My husband notices it

much more than me and when i'm " clear headed " he will tell me what

questions i was asking out of left field. My conversational skills are

pretty affected cuz when I'm in the middle of talking my whole brain

will get swiped clean and I don't know what I was saying. I also had

alot of trouble yesterday with trying to balance my checkbook, it was

so hard for me to transfer things from my computer into my checkbook.

Last night I asked, did I go to the doctors today? I knew that I went

to the doctors but had no details to tell. I just forget stuff all the

time. I applied for ssi and they said I qualify but have to wait 5

months to know if I get accepted. When I try to remember stuff I will

sit and think for a long time. I've started writing down when I take

my pills and I set the alarm in my phone for three different times to

take the lactulose. How much do you all take? does this mean i'm

getting sicker? when should i expect it to start moving my bowels? how

bad is it?

On a side note, I cried when in the doctors office. It's very scary to

be aware... like I'm fighting away a dumber me but I don't always win.

I hope that makes sense. I would appreciate hearing everyones answers

to the questions to know if I am similar to others.

>

> From: diane chandler <dianechandler@ ...>

> Subject: Re: lactulose

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 8:41 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Oh, , I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I do think

you'll be feeling much better very soon. The 'crap flood' isn't a

welcome event, but the clearer head surely is! I'm continuing to pray

for you sweetie! Love you!

>

> Diane

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: crazygirlmcc <CrazygirlMCC@ hotmail.com>

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 7:29:44 PM

> Subject: lactulose

>

> The hopital started me on 45ml a day for now and will increase if they

> need to. I was so confused this morning when folding a shirt to put it

> away I just stopped and stared at the shirt thinking " what am i doing "

> I just put the shirt down and walked away. I took a shower and two

> hours later asked if i had taken a shower. it was scary to be so out

> of it, i'm waiting for the crap flood to take place now lol.

>

>

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,

Three times a day is a pretty average dosage for lactulose.  I know it's been

over 12 hours since your post, so you most likely have had one or more BMs by

now.  Does this mean you're getting worse?  That's hard to say.  'Worse' is a

subjective term when talking about cirrhosis.  There are so many ways in which

you can get 'worse' with an individual symtom, yet not be any 'worse' overall. 

Terry's symptoms would come and go and would often seem to be getting worse but

then would rebound and he would be doing so much better.  The only real way to

measure 'worse' is by your MELD score.  If your MELD hasn't changed, then your

status with regards to a transplant haven't changed.  Although you may be

experiencing symtoms that make you feel worse, it's that MELD that is the gold

standard for measuring where you stand.  And, yes sweetie, your statement about

fighting away a dumber you makes perfect sense to anyone who has suffered with

encephalopathy

or anyone who has been a caregiver to an individual who has suffered with

encephalopathy.  It is actually a very good description of what Terry

experienced on so many occasions.  You are not alone and you are not abnormal. 

You are perfectly normal and the things you are going through, emotions and all,

are perfectly normal.  You are among friends here who love you and support you

and understand you.  Feel free at any time to talk or ask about anything that is

on your mind.  I love you sweetie.  You and your precious family are in my

prayers.

Warm hugs.............

Diane

________________________________

To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 8:32:36 AM

Subject: Re: lactulose - Lyncia

well, is 45ml a lot? I started yesterday afternoon so i had 30 ml, now

I take another 15ml three different times today. Still no bowel

movement but i do have abdominal pain and feel pretty nauseous. I also

was prescribed vitamin d and told to start taking calcium. My brain is

definately not itself yet. It's really the worst when I just wake up

or start getting more tired than normal for me. My husband notices it

much more than me and when i'm " clear headed " he will tell me what

questions i was asking out of left field. My conversational skills are

pretty affected cuz when I'm in the middle of talking my whole brain

will get swiped clean and I don't know what I was saying. I also had

alot of trouble yesterday with trying to balance my checkbook, it was

so hard for me to transfer things from my computer into my checkbook.

Last night I asked, did I go to the doctors today? I knew that I went

to the doctors but had no details to tell. I just forget stuff all the

time. I applied for ssi and they said I qualify but have to wait 5

months to know if I get accepted. When I try to remember stuff I will

sit and think for a long time. I've started writing down when I take

my pills and I set the alarm in my phone for three different times to

take the lactulose. How much do you all take? does this mean i'm

getting sicker? when should i expect it to start moving my bowels? how

bad is it?

On a side note, I cried when in the doctors office. It's very scary to

be aware... like I'm fighting away a dumber me but I don't always win.

I hope that makes sense. I would appreciate hearing everyones answers

to the questions to know if I am similar to others.

>

> From: diane chandler <dianechandler@ ...>

> Subject: Re: lactulose

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 8:41 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Oh, , I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I do think

you'll be feeling much better very soon. The 'crap flood' isn't a

welcome event, but the clearer head surely is! I'm continuing to pray

for you sweetie! Love you!

>

> Diane

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: crazygirlmcc <CrazygirlMCC@ hotmail.com>

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 7:29:44 PM

> Subject: lactulose

>

> The hopital started me on 45ml a day for now and will increase if they

> need to. I was so confused this morning when folding a shirt to put it

> away I just stopped and stared at the shirt thinking " what am i doing "

> I just put the shirt down and walked away. I took a shower and two

> hours later asked if i had taken a shower. it was scary to be so out

> of it, i'm waiting for the crap flood to take place now lol.

>

>

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Hi everyone,

 

I am Case from Myrtle Beach SC and this is my first post to the group. 

You have just described me to the T.  Forgetfulness, can't even find my phone or

those lists I make all day.  I even spent 2 hrs. browsing a dollar store after

running in to get one or was that 2 items....someone was waiting in the car for

me.I try to laugh at the silly things i say or do but it scares the heck out of

me, cause I am not me anymore.  It's been so long I can hardly remember that

woman I was:  the one who worked long hrs., ran her own business,

took evening courses, volunteered long hours with dog rescue, enjoyed her

children and grandchildren, kept up with the house , yard, everything and still

could go, go, go.

 

Now my mind is muddled, days go by without me even going out to the mailbox..I

have been taking lactose for many years.  I am end stage liver disease...,I

took both kinds of treatments for a total of 2.5 yrs.  I have Hepc genotype 1a. 

I am 51 yrs old.  Since treatment 10 years ago I have had my gallbladder

removed, bilateral mastectomy without implants, ovaries removed along with the

huge tumors on them, don't forget a complete hysterectomy.  I have turned into

mounds of flab, lost most of my hair and my skin in drying up.

Along with the lactose I am on 15 or medications.  I am not always certain if

the drugs are making me worse or keeping me alive.  I have portal hypertension

with esophageal bleeding, and gastric bleeding in the stomach I was recent told

my umbilical herniated.

 

Dr's say I am not yet sick enough for a transplant (this is true) not an

hallucination.

 

When first starting the lactose and at times when I added a new med. to my

regime, I have had to use a stool softener along with it.  I also have found

that fish oil seems to help and also helps with my dry skin and hair.

 

Sorry to vent my first time..just feeling sorry for me day.  My roomie, who is

also my best friend is moving out soon, he took care of so much around the

house, yard, kept up with my meds, drove me , etc.  He has been here for almost

2 yrs. But he has a child that needs him , so he must go.  I have been very

down.  I know I should not live alone, but not many people can deal with this

disease.

 

God Bless All,

 

       ......  

Subject: Re: lactulose - Lyncia

To: livercirrhosissupport

Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 9:32 AM

well, is 45ml a lot? I started yesterday afternoon so i had 30 ml, now

I take another 15ml three different times today. Still no bowel

movement but i do have abdominal pain and feel pretty nauseous. I also

was prescribed vitamin d and told to start taking calcium. My brain is

definately not itself yet. It's really the worst when I just wake up

or start getting more tired than normal for me. My husband notices it

much more than me and when i'm " clear headed " he will tell me what

questions i was asking out of left field. My conversational skills are

pretty affected cuz when I'm in the middle of talking my whole brain

will get swiped clean and I don't know what I was saying. I also had

alot of trouble yesterday with trying to balance my checkbook, it was

so hard for me to transfer things from my computer into my checkbook.

Last night I asked, did I go to the doctors today? I knew that I went

to the doctors but had no details to tell. I just forget stuff all the

time. I applied for ssi and they said I qualify but have to wait 5

months to know if I get accepted. When I try to remember stuff I will

sit and think for a long time. I've started writing down when I take

my pills and I set the alarm in my phone for three different times to

take the lactulose. How much do you all take? does this mean i'm

getting sicker? when should i expect it to start moving my bowels? how

bad is it?

On a side note, I cried when in the doctors office. It's very scary to

be aware... like I'm fighting away a dumber me but I don't always win.

I hope that makes sense. I would appreciate hearing everyones answers

to the questions to know if I am similar to others.

>

> From: diane chandler <dianechandler@ ...>

> Subject: Re: lactulose

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 8:41 PM

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>

> Oh, , I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I do think

you'll be feeling much better very soon. The 'crap flood' isn't a

welcome event, but the clearer head surely is! I'm continuing to pray

for you sweetie! Love you!

>

> Diane

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: crazygirlmcc <CrazygirlMCC@ hotmail.com>

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 7:29:44 PM

> Subject: lactulose

>

> The hopital started me on 45ml a day for now and will increase if they

> need to. I was so confused this morning when folding a shirt to put it

> away I just stopped and stared at the shirt thinking " what am i doing "

> I just put the shirt down and walked away. I took a shower and two

> hours later asked if i had taken a shower. it was scary to be so out

> of it, i'm waiting for the crap flood to take place now lol.

>

>

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Hi and welcome to the group.  I am so sorry you're dealing with so much

right now, in addition to having your room mate and best friend moving out.  I

know that is terribly upsetting to you and you must be feeling very afraid of

the future.  It sounds as though you've been dealing with the liver disease for

quite some time.  Are you currently under the care of a hepatologist and are you

listed for a transplant, or is that even a consideration for you?  I'm sorry to

be nosy, just sort of want to get a feel for what your personal goals and

desires for your treatment are.  Although many, if not most, people with liver

disease desire a transplant, not all do.  My husband was one of those who did

not.  It is sometimes hard for people to understand the desires of an individual

who thinks differently than they do.  We found that some people had a hard time

accepting that my husband had chosen not to seek a transplant.  It was as if

they felt as

though he wasn't doing all he could to help himself.  Actually, nothing could

have father from the truth.  This is a wonderful group.  I am glad you found

us.  I hope you find the support you need and deserve here.  You are in my

prayers.  God bless!

Hugs...........

Diane

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To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2009 1:15:02 PM

Subject: Re: lactulose - Lyncia

Hi everyone,

 

I am Case from Myrtle Beach SC and this is my first post to the group. 

You have just described me to the T.  Forgetfulness, can't even find my phone or

those lists I make all day.  I even spent 2 hrs. browsing a dollar store after

running in to get one or was that 2 items....someone was waiting in the car for

me.I try to laugh at the silly things i say or do but it scares the heck out of

me, cause I am not me anymore.  It's been so long I can hardly remember that

woman I was:  the one who worked long hrs., ran her own business,

took evening courses, volunteered long hours with dog rescue, enjoyed her

children and grandchildren, kept up with the house , yard, everything and still

could go, go, go.

 

Now my mind is muddled, days go by without me even going out to the mailbox..I

have been taking lactose for many years.  I am end stage liver disease...,I

took both kinds of treatments for a total of 2.5 yrs.  I have Hepc genotype 1a. 

I am 51 yrs old.  Since treatment 10 years ago I have had my gallbladder

removed, bilateral mastectomy without implants, ovaries removed along with the

huge tumors on them, don't forget a complete hysterectomy.  I have turned into

mounds of flab, lost most of my hair and my skin in drying up.

Along with the lactose I am on 15 or medications.  I am not always certain if

the drugs are making me worse or keeping me alive.  I have portal hypertension

with esophageal bleeding, and gastric bleeding in the stomach I was recent told

my umbilical herniated.

 

Dr's say I am not yet sick enough for a transplant (this is true) not an

hallucination.

 

When first starting the lactose and at times when I added a new med. to my

regime, I have had to use a stool softener along with it.  I also have found

that fish oil seems to help and also helps with my dry skin and hair.

 

Sorry to vent my first time..just feeling sorry for me day.  My roomie, who is

also my best friend is moving out soon, he took care of so much around the

house, yard, kept up with my meds, drove me , etc.  He has been here for almost

2 yrs. But he has a child that needs him , so he must go.  I have been very

down.  I know I should not live alone, but not many people can deal with this

disease.

 

God Bless All,

 

       ......  

From: crazygirlmcc <CrazygirlMCC@ hotmail.com>

Subject: Re: lactulose - Lyncia

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 9:32 AM

well, is 45ml a lot? I started yesterday afternoon so i had 30 ml, now

I take another 15ml three different times today. Still no bowel

movement but i do have abdominal pain and feel pretty nauseous. I also

was prescribed vitamin d and told to start taking calcium. My brain is

definately not itself yet. It's really the worst when I just wake up

or start getting more tired than normal for me. My husband notices it

much more than me and when i'm " clear headed " he will tell me what

questions i was asking out of left field. My conversational skills are

pretty affected cuz when I'm in the middle of talking my whole brain

will get swiped clean and I don't know what I was saying. I also had

alot of trouble yesterday with trying to balance my checkbook, it was

so hard for me to transfer things from my computer into my checkbook.

Last night I asked, did I go to the doctors today? I knew that I went

to the doctors but had no details to tell. I just forget stuff all the

time. I applied for ssi and they said I qualify but have to wait 5

months to know if I get accepted. When I try to remember stuff I will

sit and think for a long time. I've started writing down when I take

my pills and I set the alarm in my phone for three different times to

take the lactulose. How much do you all take? does this mean i'm

getting sicker? when should i expect it to start moving my bowels? how

bad is it?

On a side note, I cried when in the doctors office. It's very scary to

be aware... like I'm fighting away a dumber me but I don't always win.

I hope that makes sense. I would appreciate hearing everyones answers

to the questions to know if I am similar to others.

>

> From: diane chandler <dianechandler@ ...>

> Subject: Re: lactulose

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 8:41 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Oh, , I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I do think

you'll be feeling much better very soon. The 'crap flood' isn't a

welcome event, but the clearer head surely is! I'm continuing to pray

for you sweetie! Love you!

>

> Diane

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: crazygirlmcc <CrazygirlMCC@ hotmail.com>

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 7:29:44 PM

> Subject: lactulose

>

> The hopital started me on 45ml a day for now and will increase if they

> need to. I was so confused this morning when folding a shirt to put it

> away I just stopped and stared at the shirt thinking " what am i doing "

> I just put the shirt down and walked away. I took a shower and two

> hours later asked if i had taken a shower. it was scary to be so out

> of it, i'm waiting for the crap flood to take place now lol.

>

>

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