Re: hysterectomy

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Well ladies, you have not seen me posting recently. I had been having problems with bleeding since Feb and finally got to see a most wonderful gyno recommended who did an ultrasound last Thurs and saw my uterus was full of fibroids and left ovary with cysts. She offered a D & C and removal of left ovary, but since I am 63 and want to continue with the hormones and do not want to worry all the time about P or not to P, linings etc. I opted for a hysterectomy. Had a laparoscopically assisted vaginal hyst with removal of ovaries and cervix. Thank goodness everyhting was benign and I am now recuperating. The fallopian tube was engorged with blood and blocked and she ended up having to cut the fibroids out of my uterus bit by bit. For those of you who have problems with bleeding, she had me put on 2 Climara patches and do 300-400

mg transdermal P at night, which I applied on top of me feet and around ankles (the latter is related to uterus and ovaries in foot reflexology- my idea to put it there). And that did slow things down enough until surgery. She said if you put on the E when bleeding uncontrollably you have to use P to stop it. Lesson learned. This gyno is not afraid of E and wants me to do static dosing now at about day 7-10 follicular cycle according to Wiley - that is at least 6mg BID transdermally. Since I am doing OO/E I think I will stick around 8mg plus or minus for now (total). She will discuss doing a little P later for bones and brain she said, but if I don't like it (oh did the big doses P depress me!) she said I do not need to do it. So that is it for now. Just wanted to give you all an update. love madeleen without uterus - only one

breast I am going to hang onto- if I can help it. Lots of iodine on it to make sure it is healthy! RL moderator

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I thought that you were MIA...my goodness what a lot to go through

and I really wish you a perfect recovery and better health as a

result of your surgery.

Glad you are back,

Lana

>

> Well ladies, you have not seen me posting recently.

>

> I had been having problems with bleeding since Feb and finally

got to see a most wonderful gyno recommended who did an

ultrasound last Thurs and saw my uterus was full of fibroids and left

ovary with cysts.

>

> She offered a D & C and removal of left ovary, but since I am 63

and want to continue with the hormones and do not want to worry all

the time about P or not to P, linings etc. I opted for a hysterectomy.

>

> Had a laparoscopically assisted vaginal hyst with removal of

ovaries and cervix. Thank goodness everyhting was benign and I am

now recuperating. The fallopian tube was engorged with blood and

blocked and she ended up having to cut the fibroids out of my uterus

bit by bit.

>

> For those of you who have problems with bleeding, she had me put

on 2 Climara patches and do 300-400 mg transdermal P at night, which

I applied on top of me feet and around ankles (the latter is related

to uterus and ovaries in foot reflexology- my idea to put it there).

And that did slow things down enough until surgery.

>

> She said if you put on the E when bleeding uncontrollably you

have to use P to stop it. Lesson learned. This gyno is not afraid

of E and wants me to do static dosing now at about day 7-10

follicular cycle according to Wiley - that is at least 6mg BID

transdermally. Since I am doing OO/E I think I will stick around 8mg

plus or minus for now (total). She will discuss doing a little P

later for bones and brain she said, but if I don't like it (oh did

the big doses P depress me!) she said I do not need to do it.

>

> So that is it for now. Just wanted to give you all an update.

>

> love madeleen

> without uterus - only one breast I am going to hang onto- if I

can help it. Lots of iodine on it to make sure it is healthy!

> RL moderator

>

>

>

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Madleleen,

I am glad to hear you are doing well. What a lot to go thru. I guess now you can

move

forward and enjoy life without the bleeding and still feel well because of the

hormones.

Karin

>

> Well ladies, you have not seen me posting recently.

>

> I had been having problems with bleeding since Feb and finally got to see a

most

wonderful gyno recommended who did an ultrasound last Thurs and saw my

uterus

was full of fibroids and left ovary with cysts.

>

> She offered a D & C and removal of left ovary, but since I am 63 and want to

continue

with the hormones and do not want to worry all the time about P or not to P,

linings etc. I

opted for a hysterectomy.

>

> Had a laparoscopically assisted vaginal hyst with removal of ovaries and

cervix. Thank

goodness everyhting was benign and I am now recuperating. The fallopian tube

was

engorged with blood and blocked and she ended up having to cut the fibroids out

of my

uterus bit by bit.

>

> For those of you who have problems with bleeding, she had me put on 2

Climara

patches and do 300-400 mg transdermal P at night, which I applied on top of me

feet and

around ankles (the latter is related to uterus and ovaries in foot reflexology-

my idea to

put it there). And that did slow things down enough until surgery.

>

> She said if you put on the E when bleeding uncontrollably you have to use P

to stop it.

Lesson learned. This gyno is not afraid of E and wants me to do static dosing

now at

about day 7-10 follicular cycle according to Wiley - that is at least 6mg BID

transdermally.

Since I am doing OO/E I think I will stick around 8mg plus or minus for now

(total). She

will discuss doing a little P later for bones and brain she said, but if I don't

like it (oh did

the big doses P depress me!) she said I do not need to do it.

>

> So that is it for now. Just wanted to give you all an update.

>

> love madeleen

> without uterus - only one breast I am going to hang onto- if I can help it.

Lots of

iodine on it to make sure it is healthy!

> RL moderator

>

>

>

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.

From some of the sites I have read that a high dose of E can be given to stop

the bleeding

and it is usually given w/a progestin.

Karin

> >

> > Well ladies, you have not seen me posting recently.

> >

> > I had been having problems with bleeding since Feb and finally

> got to see a most wonderful gyno recommended who did an

> ultrasound last Thurs and saw my uterus was full of fibroids and

> left ovary with cysts.

> >

> > She offered a D & C and removal of left ovary, but since I am 63

> and want to continue with the hormones and do not want to worry all

> the time about P or not to P, linings etc. I opted for a

> hysterectomy.

> >

> > Had a laparoscopically assisted vaginal hyst with removal of

> ovaries and cervix. Thank goodness everyhting was benign and I am

> now recuperating. The fallopian tube was engorged with blood and

> blocked and she ended up having to cut the fibroids out of my uterus

> bit by bit.

> >

> > For those of you who have problems with bleeding, she had me put

> on 2 Climara patches and do 300-400 mg transdermal P at night, which

> I applied on top of me feet and around ankles (the latter is related

> to uterus and ovaries in foot reflexology- my idea to put it

> there). And that did slow things down enough until surgery.

> >

> > She said if you put on the E when bleeding uncontrollably you

> have to use P to stop it. Lesson learned. This gyno is not afraid

> of E and wants me to do static dosing now at about day 7-10

> follicular cycle according to Wiley - that is at least 6mg BID

> transdermally. Since I am doing OO/E I think I will stick around

> 8mg plus or minus for now (total). She will discuss doing a little

> P later for bones and brain she said, but if I don't like it (oh did

> the big doses P depress me!) she said I do not need to do it.

> >

> > So that is it for now. Just wanted to give you all an update.

> >

> > love madeleen

> > without uterus - only one breast I am going to hang onto- if I

> can help it. Lots of iodine on it to make sure it is healthy!

> > RL moderator

> >

> >

> >

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Madeleen:

Glad you are now recovering. A fibroid uterus is very hard to control regardless of the hormone tweaking. Even now with my progestin Mirena IUD I am also still spotting about two weeks of every month. It is very, very annoying. I swear my ovaries are still pumping out something as the last two weeks I feel very symptomatic.

Here in AZ we have a Gyno who is one of the top 5 in the USA for the new laproscopic, cervix sparing hysto and I am very seriously contemplating have it done. I have visions of being 70 still wearing a pad. Also this type of hysto is supposed to be the least traumatic for UT system as opposed to the older style.

It is interesting that this Gyno is advocating 8 mg of E, as this would be very stimulating to the breast and most physicians would not recommend that amount for a 63 year old woman. What do your serum levels run on that dose?

How long did it take you to recoop? Were you in much pain?

Sammie

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ugh! I'm still cycling with P 10 days/month. I wish I could have no periods but don't want to use P more than I am. This month, I used 50 mg vaginal suppository. Even that gave me sore breasts. After I get an ultrasound, I'm going to try P every two months.

Val

-----Original Message-----From: rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ]On Behalf Of Sami4ESP@...

I have visions of being 70 still wearing a pad.

[Guest guest]

>

> ugh! I'm still cycling with P 10 days/month. I wish I could have no

> periods but don't want to use P more than I am. This month, I used

50 mg

> vaginal suppository. Even that gave me sore breasts. After I get an

> ultrasound, I'm going to try P every two months.

>

> Val

>

Hi Val. I used P for 2weeks (200mg) last month and had worse hair

probs, used it this month (100Mg) each day and had to stop at day 21

because I felt so miserable. But the hloss wasn't AS bad. I started my

period this morning and am in severe pain from my waist down. My hair

didn't come out as bad with this cycle but I felt awful. So now I

don't know what to do. Next month I am going to skip P if possible and

see what happens. My breast soreness is gradually leaving too. How

much E do you take? I use .2 patches.

Pam

> -----Original Message-----

> From: rhythmicliving

> [mailto:rhythmicliving ]On Behalf Of Sami4ESP@...

>

> I have visions of being 70 still wearing a pad.

>

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> >> > Well ladies, you have not seen me posting recently. > > > > I had been having problems with bleeding since Feb and finally > got to see a most wonderful gyno recommended who did an > ultrasound last Thurs and saw my uterus was full of fibroids and > left ovary with cysts.> > > > She offered a D & C and removal of left ovary, but since I am 63 > and want to continue with the hormones and do not want to worry all > the time about P or not to P, linings etc. I opted for a > hysterectomy.> > > > Had a laparoscopically assisted vaginal hyst with removal of > ovaries and cervix. Thank goodness everyhting was benign and I am > now

recuperating. The fallopian tube was engorged with blood and > blocked and she ended up having to cut the fibroids out of my uterus > bit by bit.> > > > For those of you who have problems with bleeding, she had me put > on 2 Climara patches and do 300-400 mg transdermal P at night, which > I applied on top of me feet and around ankles (the latter is related > to uterus and ovaries in foot reflexology- my idea to put it > there). And that did slow things down enough until surgery. > > > > She said if you put on the E when bleeding uncontrollably you > have to use P to stop it. Lesson learned. This gyno is not afraid > of E and wants me to do static dosing now at about day 7-10 > follicular cycle according to Wiley - that is at least 6mg BID > transdermally. Since I am doing OO/E I

think I will stick around > 8mg plus or minus for now (total). She will discuss doing a little > P later for bones and brain she said, but if I don't like it (oh did > the big doses P depress me!) she said I do not need to do it. > > > > So that is it for now. Just wanted to give you all an update.> > > > love madeleen> > without uterus - only one breast I am going to hang onto- if I > can help it. Lots of iodine on it to make sure it is healthy!> > RL moderator> > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!> >>click here for our webpage http://rhythmicliving.com/**The group conversation is informational in nature and is not intended as medical advice.**

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bigbird3099 wrote: I guess now you can move forward and enjoy life without the bleeding and still feel well because of the hormones.Karin You got that right Karin. Once I get over this bronchitis thing (got it after hyst) I will be a new woman! thanks, madeleen >> Well ladies, you have not seen me posting recently.

> > I had been having problems with bleeding since Feb and finally got to see a most wonderful gyno recommended who did an ultrasound last Thurs and saw my uterus was full of fibroids and left ovary with cysts.> > She offered a D & C and removal of left ovary, but since I am 63 and want to continue with the hormones and do not want to worry all the time about P or not to P, linings etc. I opted for a hysterectomy.> > Had a laparoscopically assisted vaginal hyst with removal of ovaries and cervix. Thank goodness everyhting was benign and I am now recuperating. The fallopian tube was engorged with blood and blocked and she ended up having to cut the fibroids out of my uterus bit by bit.> > For those of you who have problems with bleeding, she had me put on 2

Climara patches and do 300-400 mg transdermal P at night, which I applied on top of me feet and around ankles (the latter is related to uterus and ovaries in foot reflexology- my idea to put it there). And that did slow things down enough until surgery. > > She said if you put on the E when bleeding uncontrollably you have to use P to stop it. Lesson learned. This gyno is not afraid of E and wants me to do static dosing now at about day 7-10 follicular cycle according to Wiley - that is at least 6mg BID transdermally. Since I am doing OO/E I think I will stick around 8mg plus or minus for now (total). She will discuss doing a little P later for bones and brain she said, but if I don't like it (oh did the big doses P depress me!) she said I do not need to do it. > > So that is it for now. Just wanted to give you all an

update.> > love madeleen> without uterus - only one breast I am going to hang onto- if I can help it. Lots of iodine on it to make sure it is healthy!> RL moderator> > > > ---------------------------------> Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!>

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I use 2.25 mg of transdermal estradiol GEL. I stop when the period starts and stay off it for 5 - 6 days.

How old are you? If you're still cycling, you probably don't need any extra P.

Val

-----Original Message-----From: rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ]On Behalf Of remanemyselfHi Val. I used P for 2weeks (200mg) last month and had worse hair probs, used it this month (100Mg) each day and had to stop at day 21 because I felt so miserable. But the hloss wasn't AS bad. I started my period this morning and am in severe pain from my waist down. My hair didn't come out as bad with this cycle but I felt awful. So now I don't know what to do. Next month I am going to skip P if possible and see what happens. My breast soreness is gradually leaving too. How much E do you take? I use .2 patches.

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I wonder if stopping all coffee would help. But it's something I just can't give up.

I have a friend with liver issues, her doc told her ORGANIC decaf ONLY....and 1cup a day. He told her all the pesticides and chemicals are held in the bean.....and released when heated ((

[Guest guest]

Yes, probably you need a progestin to keep all that E under check.

But I can't TAKE any progestins. Forget it. They make me bleed!

> > >

> > > Well ladies, you have not seen me posting recently.

> > >

> > > I had been having problems with bleeding since Feb and

finally

> > got to see a most wonderful gyno recommended who did an

> > ultrasound last Thurs and saw my uterus was full of fibroids and

> > left ovary with cysts.

> > >

> > > She offered a D & C and removal of left ovary, but since I am

63

> > and want to continue with the hormones and do not want to worry

all

> > the time about P or not to P, linings etc. I opted for a

> > hysterectomy.

> > >

> > > Had a laparoscopically assisted vaginal hyst with removal of

> > ovaries and cervix. Thank goodness everyhting was benign and I

am

> > now recuperating. The fallopian tube was engorged with blood

and

> > blocked and she ended up having to cut the fibroids out of my

uterus

> > bit by bit.

> > >

> > > For those of you who have problems with bleeding, she had me

put

> > on 2 Climara patches and do 300-400 mg transdermal P at night,

which

> > I applied on top of me feet and around ankles (the latter is

related

> > to uterus and ovaries in foot reflexology- my idea to put it

> > there). And that did slow things down enough until surgery.

> > >

> > > She said if you put on the E when bleeding uncontrollably

you

> > have to use P to stop it. Lesson learned. This gyno is not

afraid

> > of E and wants me to do static dosing now at about day 7-10

> > follicular cycle according to Wiley - that is at least 6mg BID

> > transdermally. Since I am doing OO/E I think I will stick

around

> > 8mg plus or minus for now (total). She will discuss doing a

little

> > P later for bones and brain she said, but if I don't like it (oh

did

> > the big doses P depress me!) she said I do not need to do it.

> > >

> > > So that is it for now. Just wanted to give you all an

update.

> > >

> > > love madeleen

> > > without uterus - only one breast I am going to hang onto- if

I

> > can help it. Lots of iodine on it to make sure it is healthy!

> > > RL moderator

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Well my TSH was NEVER above 1! It was always .82 and my Free T3 and

4s are mid-range. So who knows. I believe my adrenals are what

cause all my problems. I don't get enough rest every night -- I

have a stressful day, live in a stressful city, I drink coffee and

eat chocolate and sweets!

No one knows what causes fibroids. Many doctors have told me to

stop drinking coffee and just as many have told me that is a myth.

I also have those giant-cell tumors that develop in my fingers and

ankles that I have to worry about recurring. I wonder if stopping

all coffee would help. But it's something I just can't give up.

>

>

> In a message dated 3/20/2006 11:11:50 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> merryr@... writes:

>

> Supposedly my uterine artery

> blood supply to fibroids has been cut off! Yet I STILL am

> developing fibroids. I don't know what the answer is.

>

>

> , I don't know if this is true or not, BUT in a hypothyroid

book by

> Dr. Mark Starr, he says that fibroids can be caused my low

thyroid. How's your

> thyroid ???? )))

>

[Guest guest]

I'm throwing myself on the floor!!

>

>

> In a message dated 3/20/2006 12:05:31 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> merryr@... writes:

>

> I wonder if stopping

> all coffee would help. But it's something I just can't give up.

>

>

>

>

>

> I have a friend with liver issues, her doc told her ORGANIC decaf

> ONLY....and 1cup a day. He told her all the pesticides and

chemicals are held in the

> bean.....and released when heated ((

>

[Guest guest]

Well my TSH is now .52 so it went down somewhat on the old 1/2

grain. Well I could up my Armour but wanted to be sure I don't have

to work on my adrenals first. Like getting to bed on TIME, and not

drinking coffee or eating sugar!

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 3/20/2006 11:11:50 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> > > merryr@ writes:

> > >

> > > Supposedly my uterine artery

> > > blood supply to fibroids has been cut off! Yet I STILL am

> > > developing fibroids. I don't know what the answer is.

> > >

> > >

> > > , I don't know if this is true or not, BUT in a

hypothyroid

> > book by

> > > Dr. Mark Starr, he says that fibroids can be caused my low

> > thyroid. How's your

> > > thyroid ???? )))

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > click here for our webpage http://rhythmicliving.com/

> >

> > **The group conversation is informational in nature and is not

intended as

> medical advice.**

> >

[Guest guest]

, I went off real coffee about a year ago and feel much better. I buy Teecino brand herbal "coffee" from the health food store. (also available online). It tastes wonderful, in fact, I think better - has no caffeine or coffee "baddies" but satisfies that coffee fix. It brews just like regular coffee. Maybe give it a try? I haven't regretted switching. (btw, I am not affiliated with the company in any way - just a satisfied customer!).

~Lori in LV

Re: Re: hysterectomy

I wonder if stopping all coffee would help. But it's something I just can't give up.

I have a friend with liver issues, her doc told her ORGANIC decaf ONLY....and 1cup a day. He told her all the pesticides and chemicals are held in the bean.....and released when heated ((

[Guest guest]

I adore my coffee with tons of sugar...and chocolate milk is my favorite

other beverage...

Let me say something about adrenals...cortesol, actually. That stuff helps

the thyroid hormones get into the cells. Now if you feel " adrenal-y " after

upping your Armour, it's because you're needing some cortisol to get that

uppage into the cells, rather than floating around in your bloodstream

fruitlessly looking for some T3 receptors to party with. Read about

" adrenals " at www.stopthethyroidmadness.com There's a link directly to it

on the home page.

Don't let the fear of " that " keep you from something your body yearns for.

Sam

(thyroid-less, ovary-less and Armour-ized)

k9gang@...

www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

Re: hysterectomy

> Well my TSH is now .52 so it went down somewhat on the old 1/2

> grain. Well I could up my Armour but wanted to be sure I don't have

> to work on my adrenals first. Like getting to bed on TIME, and not

> drinking coffee or eating sugar!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > In a message dated 3/20/2006 11:11:50 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> > > > merryr@ writes:

> > > >

> > > > Supposedly my uterine artery

> > > > blood supply to fibroids has been cut off! Yet I STILL am

> > > > developing fibroids. I don't know what the answer is.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , I don't know if this is true or not, BUT in a

> hypothyroid

> > > book by

> > > > Dr. Mark Starr, he says that fibroids can be caused my low

> > > thyroid. How's your

> > > > thyroid ???? )))

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > click here for our webpage http://rhythmicliving.com/

> > >

> > > **The group conversation is informational in nature and is not

> intended as

> > medical advice.**

> > >

[Guest guest]

Studies have shown that coffee helps prevent liver cancer, but organic definitely should be the only choice. Organic food in general should be the only choice.

Re: Re: hysterectomy

I wonder if stopping all coffee would help. But it's something I just can't give up.

I have a friend with liver issues, her doc told her ORGANIC decaf ONLY....and 1cup a day. He told her all the pesticides and chemicals are held in the bean.....and released when heated ((

[Guest guest]

Over the years studies have been inconsistent about coffee and fibroids. It seems to help some women to cut out all caffeine and doesn't seem to matter for others. Every woman needs to see what works for her. But generally it is a sign of a toxic diet (non organic process foods for too many years, etc. etc.,) and a vitamin e (mixed tocopherals) deficiency.

Re: Re: hysterectomy

I wonder if stopping all coffee would help. But it's something I just can't give up.

I have a friend with liver issues, her doc told her ORGANIC decaf ONLY....and 1cup a day. He told her all the pesticides and chemicals are held in the bean.....and released when heated ((

[Guest guest]

I'm sure I shouldn't have coffee at all. I believe it's toxic! I

also am a big chicken eater. I eat it every day and I can tell you

that I do not only eat organic chicken. I'm probably ODing on

hormones from these chickens!

>

> Over the years studies have been inconsistent about coffee and

fibroids. It seems to help some women to cut out all caffeine and

doesn't seem to matter for others. Every woman needs to see what

works for her. But generally it is a sign of a toxic diet (non

organic process foods for too many years, etc. etc.,) and a vitamin

e (mixed tocopherals) deficiency.

>

>

> Re: Re: hysterectomy

>

>

> In a message dated 3/20/2006 12:05:31 PM Pacific Standard

Time, merryr@... writes:

> I wonder if stopping

> all coffee would help. But it's something I just can't give

up.

>

>

>

> I have a friend with liver issues, her doc told her ORGANIC

decaf ONLY....and 1cup a day. He told her all the pesticides and

chemicals are held in the bean.....and released when heated ((

>

>

> click here for our webpage http://rhythmicliving.com/

>

> **The group conversation is informational in nature and is not

intended as medical advice.**

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have found blood type diet theory to be helpful, so has my husband in his practice. We just pay attention to the basic food lists for secretors and non-secretors, not the entire health system as touted by the books and Dr. D'Adamo, as we don't agree with him on a lot of things. But we think there is something to his basic ideas.

Coffee is like medicine, a 'beneficial' for type A according to that theory. Chicken is OK for all blood types except B, for whom it is an 'avoid' because it doesn't agree with him according to that theory, which is explained in his books and therefore too complex to explain here! But when it comes to coffee and some of these other things that work for some and not others, that theory often explains a lot of why that is.

Re: Re: hysterectomy> > > > I wonder if stopping > all coffee would help. But it's something I just can't give up. > > > > I have a friend with liver issues, her doc told her ORGANIC decaf ONLY....and 1cup a day. He told her all the pesticides and chemicals are held in the bean.....and released when heated (( > > > click here for our webpage http://rhythmicliving.com/> > **The group conversation is informational in nature and is not intended as medical advice.** > > > >

[Guest guest]

You mean the " Eat Right for your Blood Type " theory?

> >

> > Over the years studies have been inconsistent about coffee and

> fibroids. It seems to help some women to cut out all caffeine

and

> doesn't seem to matter for others. Every woman needs to see what

> works for her. But generally it is a sign of a toxic diet (non

> organic process foods for too many years, etc. etc.,) and a

vitamin

> e (mixed tocopherals) deficiency.

> >

> >

> > Re: Re: hysterectomy

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 3/20/2006 12:05:31 PM Pacific Standard

> Time, merryr@ writes:

> > I wonder if stopping

> > all coffee would help. But it's something I just can't

give

> up.

> >

> >

> >

> > I have a friend with liver issues, her doc told her

ORGANIC

> decaf ONLY....and 1cup a day. He told her all the pesticides and

> chemicals are held in the bean.....and released when heated ((

>

> >

> >

> > click here for our webpage http://rhythmicliving.com/

> >

> > **The group conversation is informational in nature and is

not

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Yes, but the first book is not very good for food lists, they have changed so much over the years. It is a good book for understanding the basic theory.

Re: Re: hysterectomy> > > > > > In a message dated 3/20/2006 12:05:31 PM Pacific Standard > Time, merryr@ writes:> > I wonder if stopping > > all coffee would help. But it's something I just can't give > up. > > > > > > > > I have a friend with liver issues, her doc told her ORGANIC > decaf ONLY....and 1cup a day. He told her all the pesticides and > chemicals are held in the bean.....and released when heated (( > > > > > > > click here for our webpage http://rhythmicliving.com/> > > > **The group conversation is informational in nature and is not > intended as medical advice.** > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Isn't it true that even though the ovaries are removed one can still get "ovarian" cancer? Also, keeping the ovaries doesn't guarantee that they will continue to work

Liz

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But one gyno told me I can't have that type of hyst. because I never had children.

that is very possible . You may not have enough room to take the uterus out vaginally. Why would you want to save your ovaries? Then you will end up worrying about ovarian cancer. How old are you? I think if you are a younger woman, keeping your ovaries would be a good thing.

madeleen

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Oh you are SO right. Because MY ovaries don't work!

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> But one gyno told me I can't have that type of hyst. because I

never had

> children.

>

> that is very possible . You may not have enough room to take

the uterus

> out vaginally. Why would you want to save your ovaries? Then you

will end

> up worrying about ovarian cancer. How old are you? I think if

you are a

> younger woman, keeping your ovaries would be a good thing.

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> madeleen

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