Guest guest Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Congrates from me too Bobby, I had a keychain from Weight Watchers for losing 10% of my weight, it broke. Wonder if it was because I had regained some of the weight. But, it was very special. Would have tried to get it fixed, but can't find it now. It has been raining here for a couple of weeks, three times during that time, this is Arizona. I have had to take different routes around town because the washes have been running, washing out lots of roads here in town, and surrounding area. Ed got stopped by the cops today for taking the big truck through a closed street. Good thing they didn't see me come through with the car after church. He got warned, I probably would have gotten a ticket Trees down around town, water up to the bottom of bridges on Main Street. Nobody remembers it this bad before. The problem here is that the ground is so hard, packed so dense that the water can't get into it, so all the water from the mountains surrounding us comes down here into the valley we live in into the washes. Sometimes we have floods when we haven't had any rain. The sun is finally out today. Jan H On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 4:59 PM, pinkmeetsblue wrote: > oh bob-o i couldnt forget such a special day now could i??!!!i am so very > proud of you my friend,my brother,wanna be my brother huh huh lol.i dont > know your old birthday,but i do remember your new birthday ,what a great > accomplishment!you have done well bobby and i would never forget something > so special about someone who is so special to me!!!! our weekend was > blahhhhhhhhh hanging around the house, i am gonna grill tommorrow,this > should be interesting,last time i lite the grill i burnt my darn eyelashes > off,no joke it just went poof and there went my lashes,i dont get so close > to it now lol.a coulpe of the kids will be coming over and the babies,so > that should be fun...well depending on which kids show up hahahahaha,erica > and i seem to stay on oppisite sides of the universe these days.she doesnt > like me much lately...kids what can ya do except wait for them to grow up > and aquire wisdom. its raining here right now,i hope it doesnt tommorrow,so > whats your weekend been like. tell sharon when you get your coin to give you > a great big hug for me, and i will be there in my heart routing you on my > friend,love you barby > > > > > > Dave, there is no user agreement to govern this group. The owner has > left it up to the three of us to moderate as best we can, and we have very > very simple rules which are mostly common sense. Posting links to any > products, asking for donations or other requests for money , which has > actually happened, flaming each other, which happens about twice a year, and > discussing politics and other divisive subjects usually gets a response from > a moderator. > > > > > > If one member offends another, it is usually brought to the attention > of the offender by the offendee, and apologies are exchanged, and that's > usually the end of it, no moderator needed. I hope Gloria does not quit. I > hope that trying to keep some kind of order here does not discourage people > to post, but the reality is that every month there are more and more people > who find us on line looking for support and answers. If this someone decides > that things have gotten too strict, they might want to check out other > support groups, and they might find one more laid back, but I have checked > out many, and find almost all of them to be much much more strict. > > > > > > My wife joined a support group in 2002 after being diagnosed with > Chiari malformation. She actually joined several, and they all helped shape > her course of treatment. I toyed with the idea of starting my own group > because our owner here , being a sufferer of end stage liver disease herself > was unable to tend to this group when she was very ill, and there was > grumbling among the members. One member actually got fed up with things and > started another liver cirrhosis support group here at Yahoo. > > > I belonged to both for a while until she disappeared from the web like > a puff of smoke. My blackberry actually notifies me now in my own voice " > some one just posted on the OLD support group " , 24 hours a day. I never > changed it. I think about her when ever I get that notification. I am > grateful to have been nominated to me a moderator here. > > > This really is the best support group on the web in my opinion. I've > tried a bunch. But it isnt the moderators who make it so special, it's the > people who are the members! It's YOU, Barby, Jan, Abijann, ,Pamela, > Lyncia, Penny, Qoya,Sharon, ( she quit by the way), Tilly, > > > Phyliss, Jill , Maureen, ,MaC, , Gloria,, ,Debra, > Debbie,, Crazy Girl, Kim, its all of YOU who make this the best support > group. They may have better graphics and features, but we have the PEOPLE. > > > I dont make too many AA meetings these days because of the cigarette > smoke and the transportation issues, but I feel like this group is the > service that we in AA are encourage to do as a part of a program of > sobriety. I know this does keep me very busy. > > > > > > Even if I dont post, I read evey singe one, even when I was in the > hospital two summers ago. My black berry is on 24 hours, and often gongs in > the middle of the night with Yahoo chat, and I end up having a conversation > with someone I dont even know until the sun comes up. It is very very > interesting, and also very rewarding. . > > > > > > I am really glad that most of the people here really do get the idea of > what is appropriate, and what is not and it makes me sad any time someone > quits. I was sad that my friend quit two years ago and started her own > group, and then just disappeared. I am just really glad that we have a good > mix here, my other support groups were dismal. Everyone decompensated, no > humor, mean people, you name it. > > > As MaC always says, it's all about the love. > > > > > > love, Bobby > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ ...> > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > > Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2009 11:51:08 AM > > > Subject: Re: (unknown) > > > > > > > > > Phyllis...thank you very much for the reply..I'm not trained in any > type of public speaking, other than the norm, and my primary caregiver, my > Great Grandmother. ..she was almost full Osage Indian, and her last name was > Speaker..I love(d) here as much as she does (did) me..she was supreme at > unconditional love..something I did not find again until I was 28 and had my > own baby..I have always taken great pride and love from my relationship with > her..listening to her stories, indeed just watching her..a small woman with > floor length raven hair...enough of my ramblings; mainly wanted to tell Mac > how difficult being monitor of a group must be..I do not envy your task..I > would not be able to control my ramblings... I'm not trying to suck up to > you, because you are a monitor...for one I'm not sure you are one...my days > of sucking up are over...I am at the 'take me as I am, or stay the **** away > stage'...Just hated to see Gloria leave, as she was a > > > constant and dependable member. Her responses were almost on as a > daily voice..I do not even know what your terms and conditions are anyhow..I > figure when I step over the line I will hear about it..good luck to you, > Gloria, Phyllis, etc. peace out, Dave > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > From: Phyllis Delgado <pdelgado354@ yahoo.com> > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > > Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 3:09:30 PM > > > Subject: Re: (unknown) > > > > > > > > > DAVE, ARE YOU IN PUBLIC RELATIONS? YOU'RE DAMN GOOD! > > > KUDOS! > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com> > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > > Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 8:01:41 AM > > > Subject: (unknown) > > > > > > > > > Gloria, I was not personally offended about your remark, and realize > that is a common term used in many countries attributed to immigrants that > arrive in our countries, and many others, by any means possible.... In their > case often unsafe, overloaded boats...I do understand how some may be > offended...just so happens most early immigrants arrived in just such a > way...apparently some are offended by the term, as is their right...I have > found your entries here to be very compassionate and caring...is the topic > of immigrants related to health care? Very much so...so it must be the term > found non-appropriate, and hopefully not the effect that immigration has on > the health system..my reason for joining this group is to find a release, a > better understanding, etc. from those suffering with liver disease...much of > the release for me involves writing what is happening with myself, listening > to others telling their own circumstance, and very importantly and > > > paramount, comradery ...as one who is often offended easily, and often > wrong in perceived hurts, I must be vigilant in watching for justified and > unjustified wrongs...if I do that, 90 plus % are unjustified. ..peace > > > Dave > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Thanks, Jan. This sure has been the wierdest of years. The sunspots are gone and there is talk at NASA that they might never come back. It is having a huge effect on the weather. They are calling this the year without summer. It rained for two months solid in June and July, and has dried out a bit this month, but we never did have real Denver summer heat. Just 'fall' like weather all summer. The tourist season was ruined in New England, or so I have read on the news wires. I gained 10 lbs and am so hopping mad. There was a problem in July with the morphine not working, and now it is working again, so I can move about more, but when it doesnt work, I have to stay ever so still or I get to thinking of suicide because the liver ache drowns every thing else out. Of course I could never ever do it, because of my renewed faith, Sharon, and this group. my pain starts me to break out in a sweat, and cause me to snap at every one. How bad has your pain been, Jan? Love, Bobby long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2009 8:48:35 PM Subject: Re: Re: (unknown) Congrates from me too Bobby, I had a keychain from Weight Watchers for losing 10% of my weight, it broke. Wonder if it was because I had regained some of the weight. But, it was very special. Would have tried to get it fixed, but can't find it now. It has been raining here for a couple of weeks, three times during that time, this is Arizona. I have had to take different routes around town because the washes have been running, washing out lots of roads here in town, and surrounding area. Ed got stopped by the cops today for taking the big truck through a closed street. Good thing they didn't see me come through with the car after church. He got warned, I probably would have gotten a ticket Trees down around town, water up to the bottom of bridges on Main Street. Nobody remembers it this bad before. The problem here is that the ground is so hard, packed so dense that the water can't get into it, so all the water from the mountains surrounding us comes down here into the valley we live in into the washes. Sometimes we have floods when we haven't had any rain. The sun is finally out today. Jan H On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 4:59 PM, pinkmeetsblue <pinkmeetsblue@ yahoo.com>wrote: > oh bob-o i couldnt forget such a special day now could i??!!!i am so very > proud of you my friend,my brother,wanna be my brother huh huh lol.i dont > know your old birthday,but i do remember your new birthday ,what a great > accomplishment! you have done well bobby and i would never forget something > so special about someone who is so special to me!!!! our weekend was > blahhhhhhhhh hanging around the house, i am gonna grill tommorrow,this > should be interesting, last time i lite the grill i burnt my darn eyelashes > off,no joke it just went poof and there went my lashes,i dont get so close > to it now lol.a coulpe of the kids will be coming over and the babies,so > that should be fun...well depending on which kids show up hahahahaha,erica > and i seem to stay on oppisite sides of the universe these days.she doesnt > like me much lately...kids what can ya do except wait for them to grow up > and aquire wisdom. its raining here right now,i hope it doesnt tommorrow,so > whats your weekend been like. tell sharon when you get your coin to give you > a great big hug for me, and i will be there in my heart routing you on my > friend,love you barby > > > > > > Dave, there is no user agreement to govern this group. The owner has > left it up to the three of us to moderate as best we can, and we have very > very simple rules which are mostly common sense. Posting links to any > products, asking for donations or other requests for money , which has > actually happened, flaming each other, which happens about twice a year, and > discussing politics and other divisive subjects usually gets a response from > a moderator. > > > > > > If one member offends another, it is usually brought to the attention > of the offender by the offendee, and apologies are exchanged, and that's > usually the end of it, no moderator needed. I hope Gloria does not quit. I > hope that trying to keep some kind of order here does not discourage people > to post, but the reality is that every month there are more and more people > who find us on line looking for support and answers. If this someone decides > that things have gotten too strict, they might want to check out other > support groups, and they might find one more laid back, but I have checked > out many, and find almost all of them to be much much more strict. > > > > > > My wife joined a support group in 2002 after being diagnosed with > Chiari malformation. She actually joined several, and they all helped shape > her course of treatment. I toyed with the idea of starting my own group > because our owner here , being a sufferer of end stage liver disease herself > was unable to tend to this group when she was very ill, and there was > grumbling among the members. One member actually got fed up with things and > started another liver cirrhosis support group here at Yahoo. > > > I belonged to both for a while until she disappeared from the web like > a puff of smoke. My blackberry actually notifies me now in my own voice " > some one just posted on the OLD support group " , 24 hours a day. I never > changed it. I think about her when ever I get that notification. I am > grateful to have been nominated to me a moderator here. > > > This really is the best support group on the web in my opinion. I've > tried a bunch. But it isnt the moderators who make it so special, it's the > people who are the members! It's YOU, Barby, Jan, Abijann, ,Pamela, > Lyncia, Penny, Qoya,Sharon, ( she quit by the way), Tilly, > > > Phyliss, Jill , Maureen, ,MaC, , Gloria,, ,Debra, > Debbie,, Crazy Girl, Kim, its all of YOU who make this the best support > group. They may have better graphics and features, but we have the PEOPLE. > > > I dont make too many AA meetings these days because of the cigarette > smoke and the transportation issues, but I feel like this group is the > service that we in AA are encourage to do as a part of a program of > sobriety. I know this does keep me very busy. > > > > > > Even if I dont post, I read evey singe one, even when I was in the > hospital two summers ago. My black berry is on 24 hours, and often gongs in > the middle of the night with Yahoo chat, and I end up having a conversation > with someone I dont even know until the sun comes up. It is very very > interesting, and also very rewarding. . > > > > > > I am really glad that most of the people here really do get the idea of > what is appropriate, and what is not and it makes me sad any time someone > quits. I was sad that my friend quit two years ago and started her own > group, and then just disappeared. I am just really glad that we have a good > mix here, my other support groups were dismal. Everyone decompensated, no > humor, mean people, you name it. > > > As MaC always says, it's all about the love. > > > > > > love, Bobby > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ ...> > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > > Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2009 11:51:08 AM > > > Subject: Re: (unknown) > > > > > > > > > Phyllis...thank you very much for the reply..I'm not trained in any > type of public speaking, other than the norm, and my primary caregiver, my > Great Grandmother. ..she was almost full Osage Indian, and her last name was > Speaker..I love(d) here as much as she does (did) me..she was supreme at > unconditional love..something I did not find again until I was 28 and had my > own baby..I have always taken great pride and love from my relationship with > her..listening to her stories, indeed just watching her..a small woman with > floor length raven hair...enough of my ramblings; mainly wanted to tell Mac > how difficult being monitor of a group must be..I do not envy your task..I > would not be able to control my ramblings... I'm not trying to suck up to > you, because you are a monitor...for one I'm not sure you are one...my days > of sucking up are over...I am at the 'take me as I am, or stay the **** away > stage'...Just hated to see Gloria leave, as she was a > > > constant and dependable member. Her responses were almost on as a > daily voice..I do not even know what your terms and conditions are anyhow..I > figure when I step over the line I will hear about it..good luck to you, > Gloria, Phyllis, etc. peace out, Dave > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > From: Phyllis Delgado <pdelgado354@ yahoo.com> > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > > Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 3:09:30 PM > > > Subject: Re: (unknown) > > > > > > > > > DAVE, ARE YOU IN PUBLIC RELATIONS? YOU'RE DAMN GOOD! > > > KUDOS! > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com> > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > > Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 8:01:41 AM > > > Subject: (unknown) > > > > > > > > > Gloria, I was not personally offended about your remark, and realize > that is a common term used in many countries attributed to immigrants that > arrive in our countries, and many others, by any means possible.... In their > case often unsafe, overloaded boats...I do understand how some may be > offended...just so happens most early immigrants arrived in just such a > way...apparently some are offended by the term, as is their right...I have > found your entries here to be very compassionate and caring...is the topic > of immigrants related to health care? Very much so...so it must be the term > found non-appropriate, and hopefully not the effect that immigration has on > the health system..my reason for joining this group is to find a release, a > better understanding, etc. from those suffering with liver disease...much of > the release for me involves writing what is happening with myself, listening > to others telling their own circumstance, and very importantly and > > > paramount, comradery ...as one who is often offended easily, and often > wrong in perceived hurts, I must be vigilant in watching for justified and > unjustified wrongs...if I do that, 90 plus % are unjustified. ..peace > > > Dave > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Hey Bobby, There is one thing I found about life. It's like the wind. If you're not careful, it will blow right by. The one thing I'm glad for and most proud for is that this anniversary blows right by as if it is just one more day. One day at a time my friend! I am so proud of you, words can't express. But!, The sunspot thing is a cycle thing which occurs within the life of the sun. We've only been studying the Sun for roughly 50 years (with good technology) and its about a 100 million years old (or more)or so... I wouldn't jump to any conclusions about what its affect on us is just yet. In my opinion, I haven't seen a change at all in the weather. Summer is hot, Winter is cold. Hasn't it always been that way? :-) Take care, Love & Peace, MaC MaC --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Bob Aragon  Thanks, Jan. This sure has been the wierdest of years. The sunspots are gone and there is talk at NASA that they might never come back. It is having a huge effect on the weather. They are calling this the year without summer. It rained for two months solid in June and July, and has dried out a bit this month, but we never did have real Denver summer heat. Just 'fall' like weather all summer. The tourist season was ruined in New England, or so I have read on the news wires. I gained 10 lbs and am so hopping mad. There was a problem in July with the morphine not working, and now it is working again, so I can move about more, but when it doesnt work, I have to stay ever so still or I get to thinking of suicide because the liver ache drowns every thing else out. Of course I could never ever do it, because of my renewed faith, Sharon, and this group. my pain starts me to break out in a sweat, and cause me to snap at every one. How bad has your pain been, Jan? Love, Bobby long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer ____________ _________ _________ __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 I had 5 yrs. once, and kind of let it slip away for a while...kind of became one of those on again off again deals depending on my stress levels..(we'll use that one, this time ,as a excuse for bad behavior)..anyone who has struggled with that dragon deserves a tip of the hat..you hang on with all you have, because the higher you get in the hierarchy the further the fall,...and there is one, a hierarchy...not suppose to be one, but boy is there ever one! peace to you all,  Dave ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2009 9:48:35 PM Subject: Re: Re: (unknown)  Congrates from me too Bobby, I had a keychain from Weight Watchers for losing 10% of my weight, it broke. Wonder if it was because I had regained some of the weight. But, it was very special. Would have tried to get it fixed, but can't find it now. It has been raining here for a couple of weeks, three times during that time, this is Arizona. I have had to take different routes around town because the washes have been running, washing out lots of roads here in town, and surrounding area. Ed got stopped by the cops today for taking the big truck through a closed street. Good thing they didn't see me come through with the car after church. He got warned, I probably would have gotten a ticket Trees down around town, water up to the bottom of bridges on Main Street. Nobody remembers it this bad before. The problem here is that the ground is so hard, packed so dense that the water can't get into it, so all the water from the mountains surrounding us comes down here into the valley we live in into the washes. Sometimes we have floods when we haven't had any rain. The sun is finally out today. Jan H On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 4:59 PM, pinkmeetsblue <pinkmeetsblue@ yahoo.com>wrote: > oh bob-o i couldnt forget such a special day now could i??!!!i am so very > proud of you my friend,my brother,wanna be my brother huh huh lol.i dont > know your old birthday,but i do remember your new birthday ,what a great > accomplishment! you have done well bobby and i would never forget something > so special about someone who is so special to me!!!! our weekend was > blahhhhhhhhh hanging around the house, i am gonna grill tommorrow,this > should be interesting, last time i lite the grill i burnt my darn eyelashes > off,no joke it just went poof and there went my lashes,i dont get so close > to it now lol.a coulpe of the kids will be coming over and the babies,so > that should be fun...well depending on which kids show up hahahahaha,erica > and i seem to stay on oppisite sides of the universe these days.she doesnt > like me much lately...kids what can ya do except wait for them to grow up > and aquire wisdom. its raining here right now,i hope it doesnt tommorrow,so > whats your weekend been like. tell sharon when you get your coin to give you > a great big hug for me, and i will be there in my heart routing you on my > friend,love you barby > > > > > > Dave, there is no user agreement to govern this group. The owner has > left it up to the three of us to moderate as best we can, and we have very > very simple rules which are mostly common sense. Posting links to any > products, asking for donations or other requests for money , which has > actually happened, flaming each other, which happens about twice a year, and > discussing politics and other divisive subjects usually gets a response from > a moderator. > > > > > > If one member offends another, it is usually brought to the attention > of the offender by the offendee, and apologies are exchanged, and that's > usually the end of it, no moderator needed. I hope Gloria does not quit. I > hope that trying to keep some kind of order here does not discourage people > to post, but the reality is that every month there are more and more people > who find us on line looking for support and answers. If this someone decides > that things have gotten too strict, they might want to check out other > support groups, and they might find one more laid back, but I have checked > out many, and find almost all of them to be much much more strict. > > > > > > My wife joined a support group in 2002 after being diagnosed with > Chiari malformation. She actually joined several, and they all helped shape > her course of treatment. I toyed with the idea of starting my own group > because our owner here , being a sufferer of end stage liver disease herself > was unable to tend to this group when she was very ill, and there was > grumbling among the members. One member actually got fed up with things and > started another liver cirrhosis support group here at Yahoo. > > > I belonged to both for a while until she disappeared from the web like > a puff of smoke. My blackberry actually notifies me now in my own voice " > some one just posted on the OLD support group " , 24 hours a day. I never > changed it. I think about her when ever I get that notification. I am > grateful to have been nominated to me a moderator here. > > > This really is the best support group on the web in my opinion. I've > tried a bunch. But it isnt the moderators who make it so special, it's the > people who are the members! It's YOU, Barby, Jan, Abijann, ,Pamela, > Lyncia, Penny, Qoya,Sharon, ( she quit by the way), Tilly, > > > Phyliss, Jill , Maureen, ,MaC, , Gloria,, ,Debra, > Debbie,, Crazy Girl, Kim, its all of YOU who make this the best support > group. They may have better graphics and features, but we have the PEOPLE. > > > I dont make too many AA meetings these days because of the cigarette > smoke and the transportation issues, but I feel like this group is the > service that we in AA are encourage to do as a part of a program of > sobriety. I know this does keep me very busy. > > > > > > Even if I dont post, I read evey singe one, even when I was in the > hospital two summers ago. My black berry is on 24 hours, and often gongs in > the middle of the night with Yahoo chat, and I end up having a conversation > with someone I dont even know until the sun comes up. It is very very > interesting, and also very rewarding. . > > > > > > I am really glad that most of the people here really do get the idea of > what is appropriate, and what is not and it makes me sad any time someone > quits. I was sad that my friend quit two years ago and started her own > group, and then just disappeared. I am just really glad that we have a good > mix here, my other support groups were dismal. Everyone decompensated, no > humor, mean people, you name it. > > > As MaC always says, it's all about the love. > > > > > > love, Bobby > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ ...> > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > > Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2009 11:51:08 AM > > > Subject: Re: (unknown) > > > > > > > > > Phyllis...thank you very much for the reply..I'm not trained in any > type of public speaking, other than the norm, and my primary caregiver, my > Great Grandmother. ..she was almost full Osage Indian, and her last name was > Speaker..I love(d) here as much as she does (did) me..she was supreme at > unconditional love..something I did not find again until I was 28 and had my > own baby..I have always taken great pride and love from my relationship with > her..listening to her stories, indeed just watching her..a small woman with > floor length raven hair...enough of my ramblings; mainly wanted to tell Mac > how difficult being monitor of a group must be..I do not envy your task..I > would not be able to control my ramblings... I'm not trying to suck up to > you, because you are a monitor...for one I'm not sure you are one...my days > of sucking up are over...I am at the 'take me as I am, or stay the **** away > stage'...Just hated to see Gloria leave, as she was a > > > constant and dependable member. Her responses were almost on as a > daily voice..I do not even know what your terms and conditions are anyhow..I > figure when I step over the line I will hear about it..good luck to you, > Gloria, Phyllis, etc. peace out, Dave > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > From: Phyllis Delgado <pdelgado354@ yahoo.com> > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > > Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 3:09:30 PM > > > Subject: Re: (unknown) > > > > > > > > > DAVE, ARE YOU IN PUBLIC RELATIONS? YOU'RE DAMN GOOD! > > > KUDOS! > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com> > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > > Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 8:01:41 AM > > > Subject: (unknown) > > > > > > > > > Gloria, I was not personally offended about your remark, and realize > that is a common term used in many countries attributed to immigrants that > arrive in our countries, and many others, by any means possible.... In their > case often unsafe, overloaded boats...I do understand how some may be > offended...just so happens most early immigrants arrived in just such a > way...apparently some are offended by the term, as is their right...I have > found your entries here to be very compassionate and caring...is the topic > of immigrants related to health care? Very much so...so it must be the term > found non-appropriate, and hopefully not the effect that immigration has on > the health system..my reason for joining this group is to find a release, a > better understanding, etc. from those suffering with liver disease...much of > the release for me involves writing what is happening with myself, listening > to others telling their own circumstance, and very importantly and > > > paramount, comradery ...as one who is often offended easily, and often > wrong in perceived hurts, I must be vigilant in watching for justified and > unjustified wrongs...if I do that, 90 plus % are unjustified. ..peace > > > Dave > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 With all the rain here, that means our humidity is up. Normal levels are single digits or low double. Have had around 50% some of the time, about 26 right now. I know for most of you that seems low, but here it is high. Enough to make me ache all over. I have meds for it, but they make me groggy, so don't take unless I have to. Liver doesn't pain, just puts pressure on my ribs and under them. But, the worst pain the last couple of weeks has been muscle cramps which wander around my body from left hand to most of my right leg. Really get me when they come in more than one place at the same time. This morning I had one in the back of my leg and another on the top of my right foot at the same time. Can't prepare for them or get used to them, they just grab you. And Ed isn't very sympathetic, asks what I am whining about when I cry out. Generally, a lot better than I was last week, b 12 shot must be helping, and I got my bp up beyond the dead range. Haven't taken it yet today. Have to weigh myself too. Been bad, bad, bad this week, buffet on Wednesday with a chocolate volcano for dessert, and brunch buffet yesterday at church. So, that is two things I have to do today, weigh and take my bp. We are going to get company, Ed's granddaughter and friend first part of October, and want to put new floor down in the living room and kitchen area before they come. My grandson tiled his bedroom yesterday and promised to do the work on the other rooms if we get the tiles. Have to clean out the trailer too, will mostly follow Ed around with windex, he can do the rest. But his " dusting " basically consists of wetting the dirt so it doesn't blow around. On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Bob Aragon wrote: > Thanks, Jan. This sure has been the wierdest of years. The sunspots are > gone and there is talk at NASA that they might never come back. It is having > a huge effect on the weather. They are calling this the year without summer. > It rained for two months solid in June and July, and has dried out a bit > this month, but we never did have real Denver summer heat. Just 'fall' like > weather all summer. The tourist season was ruined in New England, or so I > have read on the news wires. I gained 10 lbs and am so hopping mad. There > was a problem in July with the morphine not working, and now it is working > again, so I can move about more, but when it doesnt work, I have to stay > ever so still or I get to thinking of suicide because the liver ache drowns > every thing else out. Of course I could never ever do it, because of my > renewed faith, Sharon, and this group. my pain starts me to break out in a > sweat, and cause me to snap at every one. How bad has your pain been, > Jan? Love, Bobby > > long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer > > > > > ________________________________ > > To: livercirrhosissupport > Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2009 8:48:35 PM > Subject: Re: Re: (unknown) > > > Congrates from me too Bobby, I had a keychain from Weight Watchers for > losing 10% of my weight, it broke. Wonder if it was because I had regained > some of the weight. But, it was very special. Would have tried to get it > fixed, but can't find it now. > > It has been raining here for a couple of weeks, three times during that > time, this is Arizona. I have had to take different routes around town > because the washes have been running, washing out lots of roads here in > town, and surrounding area. Ed got stopped by the cops today for taking > the > big truck through a closed street. Good thing they didn't see me come > through with the car after church. He got warned, I probably would have > gotten a ticket Trees down around town, water up to the bottom of bridges > on Main Street. Nobody remembers it this bad before. The problem here is > that the ground is so hard, packed so dense that the water can't get into > it, so all the water from the mountains surrounding us comes down here into > the valley we live in into the washes. Sometimes we have floods when we > haven't had any rain. The sun is finally out today. Jan H > > On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 4:59 PM, pinkmeetsblue <pinkmeetsblue@ yahoo.com > >wrote: > > > oh bob-o i couldnt forget such a special day now could i??!!!i am so very > > proud of you my friend,my brother,wanna be my brother huh huh lol.i dont > > know your old birthday,but i do remember your new birthday ,what a great > > accomplishment! you have done well bobby and i would never forget > something > > so special about someone who is so special to me!!!! our weekend was > > blahhhhhhhhh hanging around the house, i am gonna grill tommorrow,this > > should be interesting, last time i lite the grill i burnt my darn > eyelashes > > off,no joke it just went poof and there went my lashes,i dont get so > close > > to it now lol.a coulpe of the kids will be coming over and the babies,so > > that should be fun...well depending on which kids show up > hahahahaha,erica > > and i seem to stay on oppisite sides of the universe these days.she > doesnt > > like me much lately...kids what can ya do except wait for them to grow up > > and aquire wisdom. its raining here right now,i hope it doesnt > tommorrow,so > > whats your weekend been like. tell sharon when you get your coin to give > you > > a great big hug for me, and i will be there in my heart routing you on my > > friend,love you barby > > > > > > > > Dave, there is no user agreement to govern this group. The owner has > > left it up to the three of us to moderate as best we can, and we have > very > > very simple rules which are mostly common sense. Posting links to any > > products, asking for donations or other requests for money , which has > > actually happened, flaming each other, which happens about twice a year, > and > > discussing politics and other divisive subjects usually gets a response > from > > a moderator. > > > > > > > > If one member offends another, it is usually brought to the attention > > of the offender by the offendee, and apologies are exchanged, and that's > > usually the end of it, no moderator needed. I hope Gloria does not quit. > I > > hope that trying to keep some kind of order here does not discourage > people > > to post, but the reality is that every month there are more and more > people > > who find us on line looking for support and answers. If this someone > decides > > that things have gotten too strict, they might want to check out other > > support groups, and they might find one more laid back, but I have > checked > > out many, and find almost all of them to be much much more strict. > > > > > > > > My wife joined a support group in 2002 after being diagnosed with > > Chiari malformation. She actually joined several, and they all helped > shape > > her course of treatment. I toyed with the idea of starting my own group > > because our owner here , being a sufferer of end stage liver disease > herself > > was unable to tend to this group when she was very ill, and there was > > grumbling among the members. One member actually got fed up with things > and > > started another liver cirrhosis support group here at Yahoo. > > > > I belonged to both for a while until she disappeared from the web > like > > a puff of smoke. My blackberry actually notifies me now in my own voice " > > some one just posted on the OLD support group " , 24 hours a day. I never > > changed it. I think about her when ever I get that notification. I am > > grateful to have been nominated to me a moderator here. > > > > This really is the best support group on the web in my opinion. I've > > tried a bunch. But it isnt the moderators who make it so special, it's > the > > people who are the members! It's YOU, Barby, Jan, Abijann, ,Pamela, > > Lyncia, Penny, Qoya,Sharon, ( she quit by the way), Tilly, > > > > Phyliss, Jill , Maureen, ,MaC, , Gloria,, > ,Debra, > > Debbie,, Crazy Girl, Kim, its all of YOU who make this the best > support > > group. They may have better graphics and features, but we have the > PEOPLE. > > > > I dont make too many AA meetings these days because of the cigarette > > smoke and the transportation issues, but I feel like this group is the > > service that we in AA are encourage to do as a part of a program of > > sobriety. I know this does keep me very busy. > > > > > > > > Even if I dont post, I read evey singe one, even when I was in the > > hospital two summers ago. My black berry is on 24 hours, and often gongs > in > > the middle of the night with Yahoo chat, and I end up having a > conversation > > with someone I dont even know until the sun comes up. It is very very > > interesting, and also very rewarding. . > > > > > > > > I am really glad that most of the people here really do get the idea > of > > what is appropriate, and what is not and it makes me sad any time someone > > quits. I was sad that my friend quit two years ago and started her own > > group, and then just disappeared. I am just really glad that we have a > good > > mix here, my other support groups were dismal. Everyone decompensated, no > > humor, mean people, you name it. > > > > As MaC always says, it's all about the love. > > > > > > > > love, Bobby > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ ...> > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2009 11:51:08 AM > > > > Subject: Re: (unknown) > > > > > > > > > > > > Phyllis...thank you very much for the reply..I'm not trained in any > > type of public speaking, other than the norm, and my primary caregiver, > my > > Great Grandmother. ..she was almost full Osage Indian, and her last name > was > > Speaker..I love(d) here as much as she does (did) me..she was supreme at > > unconditional love..something I did not find again until I was 28 and had > my > > own baby..I have always taken great pride and love from my relationship > with > > her..listening to her stories, indeed just watching her..a small woman > with > > floor length raven hair...enough of my ramblings; mainly wanted to tell > Mac > > how difficult being monitor of a group must be..I do not envy your > task..I > > would not be able to control my ramblings... I'm not trying to suck up to > > you, because you are a monitor...for one I'm not sure you are one...my > days > > of sucking up are over...I am at the 'take me as I am, or stay the **** > away > > stage'...Just hated to see Gloria leave, as she was a > > > > constant and dependable member. Her responses were almost on as a > > daily voice..I do not even know what your terms and conditions are > anyhow..I > > figure when I step over the line I will hear about it..good luck to you, > > Gloria, Phyllis, etc. peace out, Dave > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > From: Phyllis Delgado <pdelgado354@ yahoo.com> > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 3:09:30 PM > > > > Subject: Re: (unknown) > > > > > > > > > > > > DAVE, ARE YOU IN PUBLIC RELATIONS? YOU'RE DAMN GOOD! > > > > KUDOS! > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com> > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 8:01:41 AM > > > > Subject: (unknown) > > > > > > > > > > > > Gloria, I was not personally offended about your remark, and realize > > that is a common term used in many countries attributed to immigrants > that > > arrive in our countries, and many others, by any means possible.... In > their > > case often unsafe, overloaded boats...I do understand how some may be > > offended...just so happens most early immigrants arrived in just such a > > way...apparently some are offended by the term, as is their right...I > have > > found your entries here to be very compassionate and caring...is the > topic > > of immigrants related to health care? Very much so...so it must be the > term > > found non-appropriate, and hopefully not the effect that immigration has > on > > the health system..my reason for joining this group is to find a release, > a > > better understanding, etc. from those suffering with liver disease...much > of > > the release for me involves writing what is happening with myself, > listening > > to others telling their own circumstance, and very importantly and > > > > paramount, comradery ...as one who is often offended easily, and > often > > wrong in perceived hurts, I must be vigilant in watching for justified > and > > unjustified wrongs...if I do that, 90 plus % are unjustified. ..peace > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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