Re: My son's Zyto results

[Guest guest]

Hi Bei,

I hope this group can offer you some suggestions.

May I ask whether the zyto test that showed this issue is one that can only be

done by MP or would Tami be able to do this ??

I did one recently with Tami and saw nothing to do with type of testing.

Thanks

na

>

> Dear All,

>

> My son Alan( 12 years old, severe autistic) did the first Zyto with MP. There

are 3 major problems :

>

> 1) Imflammation in the PIA Mater in his brain. The results was 1021.11 and

-3.83

>

> 2) ella bacteria infection . The results were 208.85 and 4.07.

>

> 3) Mycoplasma , the results were -162.92 and -26.17

>

> Mp suggested homeopathic drops for 2) and 3) however could not suggest

anything for 1) but i thought imflammation in the Pia Mater was a major problem

for my son. That is why my son is not responding to anything i have done in the

past 9 years. I do think the patagons have caused imflammation in the brain, but

i would like to treat both imflammation and bacteria.At the moment he is on

Enhansa which MP thinks is good for this brain imflammation.

>

> For the past 9 years we have done all of the DAN protocol, 18 months 100% Dr.

Amy Yasko protocol, 5 months Hammesfahr protocol, 5 stem cell injections but

today he is still severe without any language.

>

> My question is if there is anyone in the same situation , what is the best

treatment for the brain imflammation, what is the suppliments you use for the

Mycoplasma and ella.

>

> Any information much appreciated.

>

> regards,

>

> Bei

>

[Guest guest]

In the past when I asked parents of non-responders about all that they have

tried, they listed either no or very little treatment towards bacteria and

protozoa. Thus, I think these areas are under-treated in general amongst the

DAN-type treatments. Recently, zinc has been heralded as a way to get

non-responders to come around. Search out " KPU " to learn more about it.

Enhansa is a strong anti-inflammatory. MP has a very good reputation for

decreasing autism symptoms, so give it a go, and see what happens. I think that

finding out about the bacteria is a very good start. Now you know what to

target.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

>

> Dear All,

>

> My son Alan( 12 years old, severe autistic) did the first Zyto with MP. There

are 3 major problems :

>

> 1) Imflammation in the PIA Mater in his brain. The results was 1021.11 and

-3.83

>

> 2) ella bacteria infection . The results were 208.85 and 4.07.

>

> 3) Mycoplasma , the results were -162.92 and -26.17

>

> Mp suggested homeopathic drops for 2) and 3) however could not suggest

anything for 1) but i thought imflammation in the Pia Mater was a major problem

for my son. That is why my son is not responding to anything i have done in the

past 9 years. I do think the patagons have caused imflammation in the brain, but

i would like to treat both imflammation and bacteria.At the moment he is on

Enhansa which MP thinks is good for this brain imflammation.

>

> For the past 9 years we have done all of the DAN protocol, 18 months 100% Dr.

Amy Yasko protocol, 5 months Hammesfahr protocol, 5 stem cell injections but

today he is still severe without any language.

>

> My question is if there is anyone in the same situation , what is the best

treatment for the brain imflammation, what is the suppliments you use for the

Mycoplasma and ella.

>

> Any information much appreciated.

>

> regards,

>

> Bei

>

[Guest guest]

I, personally, am against Ibuprofen. I think using it for a few days to combat

high fever is likely ok, if that is all one feels will work. We currently use

Pau d' arco for fever. Ibuprofen damaged my intestinal lining. I took it for a

couple of months, and only a dose a day, and not even every day, and then my

abdomen remained sore and swollen and sensitive. I could no longer consume

spicey foods, nor anything irritating to my intestinal lining. That was about

18 years ago, and I still can't. If you look up Ibuprofen side effects, you

will find it does have severe side effect possibilities. Thus, I am not for it.

But, I think I would use it in extreme cases if I had to, but not for more than

3 days in a row. There are many things being used for inflammation in the

autism and Lyme arena. Turmeric (Enhansa) is one, as well as Cat's Claw

(Samento). Both of these can also cause lots of die-off, so one would have to

go low and slow. Cod liver oil is also considered and anti-inflammatory. There

are also others. Ask your practitioner about some choices that fit in with your

child's treatment plan.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

> >

> > Just an idea of possibly using curcumin in high doses for the brain

inflammation, our daughter used 1,500 mg a day but I know children who have

taken double that. one capsule, three times a day. Out of the cap Jarrow's

curcumin 95 tastes better (curcumin is the same as turmeric). Plus since

curcumin chelates iron, we gave homeopathic ferrum phos with it, which is a

homeopathic iron supplement.

> >

> > Also if anyone wants to see my children's two protocols written out, I put

them on the notes to my facebook, under Nichols Webber Axe, and or I can

email them to you if you send a request, (they are long).

> >

> > For me, when I began to treat mycoplasma, I started having seizures so I am

not doing that until I have finished working on other coinfections first. I

think part of the problem was that I had not treated other things first. But for

you, it looks like you have done a lot first, and the morgellanella and

Mycoplasma are left. That is quite an accomplishment. You are much farther than

i am and I would be interested to know what you end up doing for those because I

have a healthy respect for the difficulty of treating those. I'd almost say wow,

what will happen when you resolve those and I am not completely familiar with

your protocols but what worked for our son was andy culter chelation mixed with

zinc loading such as Dr. K's KPU protocol only using andy culter chelation

instead of the chelators he used.

> >

> > By the way, I used a rife machine to treat my Mycoplasma, and if you do

start out with one second and take it very seriously, the dieoff from that is a

lot.

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Isa:

I see protozoa as a definite problem in the autism arena, but it appears that

there are several different ones, Babesia, Toxoplasmosis, and I think there are

even species not yet identified. Heck, I still see news reports of frogs, bugs,

etc. being found not yet identified, so there is still much we don't know yet.

I think deworming and antiprotozoan attempts in general are good. I have used

several things, and it appears that each one worked a little; thus, making me

feel that I had several different ones and/or stubborn, hard to rid ones. I

still think I am full of Babesia, but lower levels. I have used healing foods,

herbs, and homeopathy so far.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear All,

> > > > >

> > > > > My son Alan( 12 years old, severe autistic) did the first Zyto with

MP. There are 3 major problems :

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) Imflammation in the PIA Mater in his brain. The results was 1021.11

and -3.83

> > > > >

> > > > > 2) ella bacteria infection . The results were 208.85 and 4.07.

> > > > >

> > > > > 3) Mycoplasma , the results were -162.92 and -26.17

> > > > >

> > > > > Mp suggested homeopathic drops for 2) and 3) however could not suggest

anything for 1) but i thought imflammation in the Pia Mater was a major problem

for my son. That is why my son is not responding to anything i have done in the

past 9 years. I do think the patagons have caused imflammation in the brain, but

i would like to treat both imflammation and bacteria.At the moment he is on

Enhansa which MP thinks is good for this brain imflammation.

> > > > >

> > > > > For the past 9 years we have done all of the DAN protocol, 18 months

100% Dr. Amy Yasko protocol, 5 months Hammesfahr protocol, 5 stem cell

injections but today he is still severe without any language.

> > > > >

> > > > > My question is if there is anyone in the same situation , what is the

best treatment for the brain imflammation, what is the suppliments you use for

the Mycoplasma and ella.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any information much appreciated.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Bei

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I agree about the unwanted side effects. I used to take quite a bit of ibuprofen for back pain. Suddenly I started to get these terribly itchy welts on my arms when they were exposed to the sun (I've been in the sun my entire life, never had problems before). Turns out ibuprofen can cause sun sensitivity. I know a lot of us try to get our kids in the sun for vitamin D so please be careful about using ibuprofen during the sunny months!

Subject: Re: My son's Zyto resultsTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 2:41 PM

I, personally, am against Ibuprofen. I think using it for a few days to combat high fever is likely ok, if that is all one feels will work. We currently use Pau d' arco for fever. Ibuprofen damaged my intestinal lining. I took it for a couple of months, and only a dose a day, and not even every day, and then my abdomen remained sore and swollen and sensitive. I could no longer consume spicey foods, nor anything irritating to my intestinal lining. That was about 18 years ago, and I still can't. If you look up Ibuprofen side effects, you will find it does have severe side effect possibilities. Thus, I am not for it. But, I think I would use it in extreme cases if I had to, but not for more than 3 days in a row. There are many things being used for inflammation in the autism and Lyme arena. Turmeric (Enhansa) is one, as well as Cat's Claw (Samento). Both of these can also cause lots of die-off, so one would have to go low and slow. Cod liver oil is

also considered and anti-inflammatory. There are also others. Ask your practitioner about some choices that fit in with your child's treatment plan.Love and prayers,Heidi N > >> > Just an idea of possibly using curcumin in high doses for the brain inflammation, our daughter used 1,500 mg a day but I know children who have taken double that. one capsule, three times a day. Out of the cap Jarrow's curcumin 95 tastes better (curcumin is the same as turmeric). Plus since curcumin chelates iron, we gave homeopathic ferrum phos with it, which is a homeopathic iron supplement.> > > > Also if anyone wants to see my children's two protocols written out, I put

them on the notes to my facebook, under Nichols Webber Axe, and or I can email them to you if you send a request, (they are long).> > > > For me, when I began to treat mycoplasma, I started having seizures so I am not doing that until I have finished working on other coinfections first. I think part of the problem was that I had not treated other things first. But for you, it looks like you have done a lot first, and the morgellanella and Mycoplasma are left. That is quite an accomplishment. You are much farther than i am and I would be interested to know what you end up doing for those because I have a healthy respect for the difficulty of treating those. I'd almost say wow, what will happen when you resolve those and I am not completely familiar with your protocols but what worked for our son was andy culter chelation mixed with zinc loading such as Dr. K's KPU protocol only using andy culter chelation instead of the

chelators he used. > > > > By the way, I used a rife machine to treat my Mycoplasma, and if you do start out with one second and take it very seriously, the dieoff from that is a lot.> > > > > >>

[Guest guest]

My husband does home theater and he worked for a lawyer, a very educated person who said to remove all ibuprofen products from the house and not to use them because of all the lawsuits and medical disasters he had seen with it, so we would use aleve, but I only use that when I am treating plantar warts on the kids. It's not my favorite thing for inflammation, but naproxen (aleve) can be gotten by prescription from a doctor in a liquid form for children, and that is what is commonly used for arthritis/eye inflammation. My daughter's Rheumatologist, Dr. Lyndsley at KU Med wrote textbooks and papers on the use of naproxen for inflammation.

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Heidi , and anyone, I will stop the idea to use Ibuptofer for

safe side.

Bei

> > >

> > > Just an idea of possibly using curcumin in high doses for the brain

inflammation, our daughter used 1,500 mg a day but I know children who have

taken double that. one capsule, three times a day. Out of the cap Jarrow's

curcumin 95 tastes better (curcumin is the same as turmeric). Plus since

curcumin chelates iron, we gave homeopathic ferrum phos with it, which is a

homeopathic iron supplement.

> > >

> > > Also if anyone wants to see my children's two protocols written out, I put

them on the notes to my facebook, under Nichols Webber Axe, and or I can

email them to you if you send a request, (they are long).

> > >

> > > For me, when I began to treat mycoplasma, I started having seizures so I

am not doing that until I have finished working on other coinfections first. I

think part of the problem was that I had not treated other things first. But for

you, it looks like you have done a lot first, and the morgellanella and

Mycoplasma are left. That is quite an accomplishment. You are much farther than

i am and I would be interested to know what you end up doing for those because I

have a healthy respect for the difficulty of treating those. I'd almost say wow,

what will happen when you resolve those and I am not completely familiar with

your protocols but what worked for our son was andy culter chelation mixed with

zinc loading such as Dr. K's KPU protocol only using andy culter chelation

instead of the chelators he used.

> > >

> > > By the way, I used a rife machine to treat my Mycoplasma, and if you do

start out with one second and take it very seriously, the dieoff from that is a

lot.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My son and I both do great with ibuprfen... didnt know it crosses the blood

brain barrier... my doc said she would share with me how we could protect our

stomach/gi from the side effects, when I hear I will share.... cant do tumeric

due to high phenol and cats claw is contraindicated in people with low

cholesterol since it lowers choleterol... so that is out for us as well, we both

have low cholesterol and are trying to raise it (both have low hormones,

insulin, adrenals due to this).

anyone have a good pancreatic product to share ....

deborah

> > > >

> > > > Just an idea of possibly using curcumin in high doses for the brain

inflammation, our daughter used 1,500 mg a day but I know children who have

taken double that. one capsule, three times a day. Out of the cap Jarrow's

curcumin 95 tastes better (curcumin is the same as turmeric). Plus since

curcumin chelates iron, we gave homeopathic ferrum phos with it, which is a

homeopathic iron supplement.

> > > >

> > > > Also if anyone wants to see my children's two protocols written out, I

put them on the notes to my facebook, under Nichols Webber Axe, and or I

can email them to you if you send a request, (they are long).

> > > >

> > > > For me, when I began to treat mycoplasma, I started having seizures so I

am not doing that until I have finished working on other coinfections first. I

think part of the problem was that I had not treated other things first. But for

you, it looks like you have done a lot first, and the morgellanella and

Mycoplasma are left. That is quite an accomplishment. You are much farther than

i am and I would be interested to know what you end up doing for those because I

have a healthy respect for the difficulty of treating those. I'd almost say wow,

what will happen when you resolve those and I am not completely familiar with

your protocols but what worked for our son was andy culter chelation mixed with

zinc loading such as Dr. K's KPU protocol only using andy culter chelation

instead of the chelators he used.

> > > >

> > > > By the way, I used a rife machine to treat my Mycoplasma, and if you do

start out with one second and take it very seriously, the dieoff from that is a

lot.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

juiced celery is excellent for brain inflammation caused by bacterial

translocation. Google it, it is scientifically proven to work.

Jen

>

> Dear All,

>

> My son Alan( 12 years old, severe autistic) did the first Zyto with MP. There

are 3 major problems :

>

> 1) Imflammation in the PIA Mater in his brain. The results was 1021.11 and

-3.83

>

> 2) ella bacteria infection . The results were 208.85 and 4.07.

>

> 3) Mycoplasma , the results were -162.92 and -26.17

>

> Mp suggested homeopathic drops for 2) and 3) however could not suggest

anything for 1) but i thought imflammation in the Pia Mater was a major problem

for my son. That is why my son is not responding to anything i have done in the

past 9 years. I do think the patagons have caused imflammation in the brain, but

i would like to treat both imflammation and bacteria.At the moment he is on

Enhansa which MP thinks is good for this brain imflammation.

>

> For the past 9 years we have done all of the DAN protocol, 18 months 100% Dr.

Amy Yasko protocol, 5 months Hammesfahr protocol, 5 stem cell injections but

today he is still severe without any language.

>

> My question is if there is anyone in the same situation , what is the best

treatment for the brain imflammation, what is the suppliments you use for the

Mycoplasma and ella.

>

> Any information much appreciated.

>

> regards,

>

> Bei

>

[Guest guest]

celery juice....do we leave most of the oxalates behind in the roughage?  we're better in the oxalate department, but asparagus really stirs up the pee pee poking...but then there is the good news, he found his pee pee a few years back and gets baby boners.  no where else could i print this...but i used to ask the docs that i thought that it was odd that he didn't get "baby hard ons' or whatever you want to call it and they just blew it off...

lisa