Re: ...Dr. Kolb

[Guest guest]

That sounds like the Kolb I know. I can't see her recommending implants if she

thinks it

would be a danger. The protocol she uses is unique to her - I believe. I don't

know for a

fact, but women have told me that neither Feng nor Melmed suggest detoxing.

I personally think it only makes sense. Many of the things she recommends I

have found to

be helpful.

> Hi Val,

> Just wanted to reassure you...Dr. Kolb definately will NOT recommend

> implants for you, if you are ill from previous implants. I practically

> begged her to reimplant, but she stood firm that I was too ill and she

> would not reimplant. When I emailed Dr. Melmed, around same time I saw

> Dr. Kolb, he doesn't recommend/suggest ANY detoxing. If you feel you

> need to detox, IMO, stick w/Dr. Kolb, her protocol works & she knows

> what she's talking about!

> Cheryl

[Guest guest]

Amen, Rogene!

[Guest guest]

I say more power to her also, Rogene. I have never had a doctor follow up like

Dr. Kolb

has, even by email. She is genuinely committed, of that I have no doubt. When

I was at

her clinic, I felt completely cared for - by every person on her staff. I felt

safe, and that

was something I was not accustomed to feeling with doctors. It was such an

incredible

relief, I can't begin to describe it. Dr. Kolb and Dr. Gnos (the

anesthesiologist) are

excellent doctors. And the nurse, the front desk people, her assistant Cheryl

Woodie all

work together to make a patient feel safe. It was very unusual.

I had very little pain after surgery, probably because I had a pain pump. But

everything

went well. I had the stitches taken out here (In florida) by a PS my internist

recommended.

That PS said " Oh my, whoever did this did an excellent job " .

We are very fortunate to have Dr. Kolb.

I have never been very trusting of 'holistic' doctors, but I can say she changed

my mind. I

have started to learn some things too - like how bromelein helps with

inflammation, and

can be found in pineapple! IT's been (and is) a process, and I am still wary of

many

'natural' or 'alternative' medicine that has no regulation. It is my

upbringing, and

background. But, I am now more suspicious of 'traditional' medicine. IT seems

a lot more

serious complications and death occur with 'traditional' medicine. And what

regulation is

there, that is meaningful? With THIS FDA?

> Dr. Kolb has taken a lot of critism for her wholistic

> approach to treating implant women . . . Some people

> would make some really big problems for her.

>

> IMHO, if the other doctors would take an interest in

> helping sick implanted women, she could stick to

> plastic surgery . . .

>

> But they don't and won't. So she does. More power to

> her!

>

> Rogene

[Guest guest]

It would be wonderful, Rogene. I don't see it happening anytime soon, because

there is

too much money in patents and doctors are not trained in nutrition or holistic

medicine.

-- In , Rogene S <saxony01@y...> wrote:

> Molly,

>

> Wouldn't it be wonderful if there was a melding of

> conventional and alternative medicine? . . . However,

> one of the reasons we have a problem is that

> conventional medicine has a very large lobby, and a

> very vested interest in keeping us sick by treating

> the symptoms, not the cause of our illness.

>

> Think of how little doctors would make if they

> required every patient to attend a course on nutrition

> and self-help! . . .

>

> My last primary care doctor gave up her practice to

> practice emergency care part time. I've been wondering

> if she lost faith in conventional medicine too. She

> recommended that I see a naturopath so I could address

> my nutritional/Candida issues!

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

[Guest guest]

Detoxing is such a modern idea that totally works, I can't imagine

any doctor not at least suggesting it! Especially with a foreign

object in the body, which is always attempted to be broken down by

the immune system and releasing man made chemicals into the body.

I guess I feel that any doctor who isn't at least aware of the value

of detoxing and/or supporting the body through an experience such as

explantation has got their head in the sand, or isn't up to snuff on

what they should be up to snuff on. The human body is a whole

system, and not just parts that can be tweaked and messed with

without affecting everything else.

I have heard that Dr. Feng does suggest supplementation of certain

things, so I don't think she is totally unaware of the value of

supportive efforts to heal. However, I am disappointed in general

with our medical professionals though. So many of them just have

tunnel vision and biased minds against anything to do with natural

therapies, which are, of course, the very things that have worked to

get our health back.

Patty

--- In , " MollyBloom54 " <jawlaw93@y...>

wrote:

> That sounds like the Kolb I know. I can't see her recommending

implants if she thinks it

> would be a danger. The protocol she uses is unique to her - I

believe. I don't know for a

> fact, but women have told me that neither Feng nor Melmed suggest

detoxing.

> I personally think it only makes sense. Many of the things she

recommends I have found to

> be helpful.

>

> --- In , " Cheryl " <sunbum256@a...>

wrote:

> > Hi Val,

> > Just wanted to reassure you...Dr. Kolb definately will NOT

recommend

> > implants for you, if you are ill from previous implants. I

practically

> > begged her to reimplant, but she stood firm that I was too ill

and she

> > would not reimplant. When I emailed Dr. Melmed, around same

time I saw

> > Dr. Kolb, he doesn't recommend/suggest ANY detoxing. If you

feel you

> > need to detox, IMO, stick w/Dr. Kolb, her protocol works & she

knows

> > what she's talking about!

> > Cheryl

[Guest guest]

How did you start detoxing?

-- In , Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@c...> wrote:

> Patty,

>

> I agree with you 100%. No medical doctor was able to help with the various

> ³diseases² I had. They kept throwing bigger and better drugs at me. It was

> only through rigorous detoxing that I gained my health back. I am healthier

> now than I have ever been in my entire life and it is 100% through detoxing

> and proper supplementation. When my MD first saw me 13 years ago for a

> sinus infection, his first thought was that I had eating disorders because I

> was so sickly and thin. He is amazed now at how well I am. I have tried

> to explain to him why I am well but he doesn¹t seem to get it, or doesn¹t

> want to.

>

> Kenda

>

>

> > Detoxing is such a modern idea that totally works, I can't imagine

> > any doctor not at least suggesting it! Especially with a foreign

> > object in the body, which is always attempted to be broken down by

> > the immune system and releasing man made chemicals into the body.

> >

> > I guess I feel that any doctor who isn't at least aware of the value

> > of detoxing and/or supporting the body through an experience such as

> > explantation has got their head in the sand, or isn't up to snuff on

> > what they should be up to snuff on. The human body is a whole

> > system, and not just parts that can be tweaked and messed with

> > without affecting everything else.

> >

> > I have heard that Dr. Feng does suggest supplementation of certain

> > things, so I don't think she is totally unaware of the value of

> > supportive efforts to heal. However, I am disappointed in general

> > with our medical professionals though. So many of them just have

> > tunnel vision and biased minds against anything to do with natural

> > therapies, which are, of course, the very things that have worked to

> > get our health back.

> >

> > Patty

> >

> >

> >>> > > Hi Val,

> >>> > > Just wanted to reassure you...Dr. Kolb definately will NOT

> > recommend

> >>> > > implants for you, if you are ill from previous implants. I

> > practically

> >>> > > begged her to reimplant, but she stood firm that I was too ill

> > and she

> >>> > > would not reimplant. When I emailed Dr. Melmed, around same

> > time I saw

> >>> > > Dr. Kolb, he doesn't recommend/suggest ANY detoxing. If you

> > feel you

> >>> > > need to detox, IMO, stick w/Dr. Kolb, her protocol works & she

> > knows

> >>> > > what she's talking about!

> >>> > > Cheryl

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

licensed

> > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care

> > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

> > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I have followed (and am again) DR. Kolb's 'protocol' - is that what you mean by

detoxing?

> > > Hi Val,

> > > Just wanted to reassure you...Dr. Kolb definately will NOT

> recommend

> > > implants for you, if you are ill from previous implants. I

> practically

> > > begged her to reimplant, but she stood firm that I was too ill

> and she

> > > would not reimplant. When I emailed Dr. Melmed, around same

> time I saw

> > > Dr. Kolb, he doesn't recommend/suggest ANY detoxing. If you

> feel you

> > > need to detox, IMO, stick w/Dr. Kolb, her protocol works & she

> knows

> > > what she's talking about!

> > > Cheryl

[Guest guest]

That sure is a good start!

Detoxing involves three efforts:

1) to stop putting things in the body that are toxic, or increase

burdens of toxicity (such as foods with lots of preservatives, dead

foods such as white flour, white sugar products, sodas, tap water

that is chlorine and/or flouride laden, meats laden with hormones

and/or chemicals, using alot of chemically based hygiene products

such as tanning lotions and creams, and just plain exposing yourself

to toxic fumes and other noxious things.)

2)to help coax the body into dumping its toxic burden that is

already there from many years of exposures to toxins in our daily

life. This means taking steps that focus on cleansing the liver,

cleansing the bowel, cleansing the kidneys, which are our main

eliminative organs. If these are working in top shape, then they can

continue to eliminate effectively and efficiently.

3) and finally to build up health with good, pure, nutrient dense

foods that also cleanse the body, such as enzyme and vitamin/mineral

rich juices and plant foods.

To begin a detox program, I would look for some books that outline a

step by step routine that you can implement. There are books out

there specifically for that, such a 's " 7 Day Detox

Miracle " or, for dieter's, Gittleman's " Fat Flush Plan " . These will

give you some good ideas to get you started so that you can continue

a program at your own pace on a regular basis. Detoxing is a

lifestyle that you learn to implement in your life. Toxins abound

daily. So, once you learn the basics of helping to cleanse these

organs, you can implement ideas that continue to support them on a

regular basis.

For instance, you can do a bowel cleanse to start. This might

involve doing some enemas or some high fiber eating to get things

moving out and clearing the path. Dr. Bernard Jensen's book gives

good ideas on this. Some of these programs are hard to follow. It

takes tenacity. But once you've got that cleaned out, you will want

to eat right to keep things moving along and avoid further toxicity.

After you've done the bowel cleanse, then you can do a liver cleanse

to get that in tip top shape. It is also called a liver flush, and

there are several recipes for that. Pick one that you are

comfortable with, (they are some intense ones or some very mild

ones), and after you have done that, make sure you get on some

supportive liver supplements such as milk thistle, alpha lipoic acid

or N-Acetyl Cysteine (NAC for short). Swedish bitters are also good

for the liver. Herbal teas, such as dandelion,are great for the

liver. Bitter herbs, like garlic and onion, are great liver

supporters!

There are things you can do for the kidneys--drink lots of water,

take kidney cleansing herbs, such as uva ursi.

There are things you can do for the lymph system....jump rope or use

a mini trampoline, drink lots of water..

There are things you can do for the skin, another major eliminative

organ....an infrared sauna is great to get your body sweating and

dumping things through the skin. A rash or acne is your body's way

of eliminating things through the skin when the other pathways

aren't working as well. DRink lots of water!

Exercise can get you breathing hard, which is good for detoxing the

lungs. Have you ever noticed after alot of exertion that you begin

coughing? This is your lungs clearing thing out. Deep breathing is

important for the lungs! And drink lots of water!

So, those are the main points. There are many, many things you can

do to implement a detox program. The key is to take it a little at a

time so that you don't feel overwhelmed. Step by step, day by day,

you will begin to see results. And then it becomes a way of life.

Supplements are important, but bad quality supplements can actually

do more harm than good. So, I don't stress the supplements as much

as the proper lifestyle of eating and taking care of the organs.

But supplements do have their place, especially when we are sick and

in need of extra boosts, and can't possibly get all the nutrients we

need from our foods.

I hope this helps you!

Patty

> > > > Hi Val,

> > > > Just wanted to reassure you...Dr. Kolb definately will NOT

> > recommend

> > > > implants for you, if you are ill from previous implants. I

> > practically

> > > > begged her to reimplant, but she stood firm that I was too

ill

> > and she

> > > > would not reimplant. When I emailed Dr. Melmed, around same

> > time I saw

> > > > Dr. Kolb, he doesn't recommend/suggest ANY detoxing. If you

> > feel you

> > > > need to detox, IMO, stick w/Dr. Kolb, her protocol works &

she

> > knows

> > > > what she's talking about!

> > > > Cheryl

[Guest guest]

Thank YOU!!! I " m printing this out!

> > > > > Hi Val,

> > > > > Just wanted to reassure you...Dr. Kolb definately will NOT

> > > recommend

> > > > > implants for you, if you are ill from previous implants. I

> > > practically

> > > > > begged her to reimplant, but she stood firm that I was too

> ill

> > > and she

> > > > > would not reimplant. When I emailed Dr. Melmed, around same

> > > time I saw

> > > > > Dr. Kolb, he doesn't recommend/suggest ANY detoxing. If you

> > > feel you

> > > > > need to detox, IMO, stick w/Dr. Kolb, her protocol works &

> she

> > > knows

> > > > > what she's talking about!

> > > > > Cheryl

[Guest guest]

I echo that!!! I want to do this !!

> > > > Detoxing is such a modern idea that totally

> > works, I can't

> > imagine

> > > > any doctor not at least suggesting it!

> > Especially with a

> > foreign

> > > > object in the body, which is always attempted to

> > be broken down

> > by

> > > > the immune system and releasing man made

> > chemicals into the

> > body.

> > > >

> > > > I guess I feel that any doctor who isn't at

> > least aware of the

> > value

> > > > of detoxing and/or supporting the body through

> > an experience

> > such as

> > > > explantation has got their head in the sand, or

> > isn't up to

> > snuff on

> > > > what they should be up to snuff on. The human

> > body is a whole

> > > > system, and not just parts that can be tweaked

> > and messed with

> > > > without affecting everything else.

> > > >

> > > > I have heard that Dr. Feng does suggest

> > supplementation of

> > certain

> > > > things, so I don't think she is totally unaware

> > of the value of

> > > > supportive efforts to heal. However, I am

> > disappointed in

> > general

> > > > with our medical professionals though. So many

> > of them just

> > have

> > > > tunnel vision and biased minds against anything

> > to do with

> > natural

> > > > therapies, which are, of course, the very things

> > that have

> > worked to

> > > > get our health back.

> > > >

> > > > Patty

> > > >

> > > > --- In ,

> > " MollyBloom54 "

> > <jawlaw93@y...>

> >

> === message truncated ===

[Guest guest]

It's on her website Plastikos.com. I have not stuck to the diet as I should,

but one step at a

time.

> >>>> > > > Hi Val,

> >>>> > > > Just wanted to reassure you...Dr. Kolb definately will NOT

> >> > recommend

> >>>> > > > implants for you, if you are ill from previous implants. I

> >> > practically

> >>>> > > > begged her to reimplant, but she stood firm that I was too ill

> >> > and she

> >>>> > > > would not reimplant. When I emailed Dr. Melmed, around same

> >> > time I saw

> >>>> > > > Dr. Kolb, he doesn't recommend/suggest ANY detoxing. If you

> >> > feel you

> >>>> > > > need to detox, IMO, stick w/Dr. Kolb, her protocol works & she

> >> > knows

> >>>> > > > what she's talking about!

> >>>> > > > Cheryl

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

licensed

> > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care

> > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

> > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Kenda,

Here is the link directly to the protocol:

http://www.plastikos.com/siliconpt.html

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>> > > > Hi Val,

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>> > > > Just wanted to reassure you...Dr. Kolb definately will

> NOT

> >>>>> > >> > recommend

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>> > > > implants for you, if you are ill from previous

implants.

> I

> >>>>> > >> > practically

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>> > > > begged her to reimplant, but she stood firm that I was

> too ill

> >>>>> > >> > and she

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>> > > > would not reimplant. When I emailed Dr. Melmed,

around

> same

> >>>>> > >> > time I saw

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>> > > > Dr. Kolb, he doesn't recommend/suggest ANY detoxing.

If

> you

> >>>>> > >> > feel you

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>> > > > need to detox, IMO, stick w/Dr. Kolb, her protocol

works

> & she

> >>>>> > >> > knows

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>> > > > what she's talking about!

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>> > > > Cheryl

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

> >>> licensed

> >>> > > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health

>>>

> care

> >>> > > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead

> >>> you.

> >>> > > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to

> >>> live a

> >>> > > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> >>> two-time

> >>> > > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >>> > >

> >>> > >