Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 DK says RBCs are not a good indicator of zinc levels and does not decide zinc dosage based on RBC. He looks at Cu levels in RBCs, not zinc. Of course Zinc and Cu enjoy an inverse relationship. You can do hair, pee, lymphocyte and put it all together to get an idea about ur zinc levels.... Shanthi To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 2:13:54 PMSubject: Elemental Zinc For what it's worth, I have taken about 50 mg of elemental Zinc for over a year and my RBC zinc test showed that I am still very deficient in zinc!!!!! So, according to my RBC zinc test taking the 50 mg of elemental zinc isn't enough to bring my RBC zinc level up to normal. My serum zinc level is within the normal range though.So, do I have to take considerably more zinc than most other peopleor is my RBC zinc test incorrect??? I am now thinking about getting the white blood cell Lymphocyte zinc test done to see if that shows deficient as well.P.S. I tested negative for KPU but according to my RBC zinc test I am deficient in zinc.- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 So, is a RBC zinc deficiency nothing to worry about??? I guess I'll get the Lypmhocyte zinc test through SpectraCell and see what that shows. Thanks for the info. - > > DK says RBCs are not a good indicator of zinc levels and does not decide zinc dosage based on RBC. He looks at Cu levels in RBCs, not zinc. > Of course Zinc and Cu enjoy an inverse relationship. > > You can do hair, pee, lymphocyte and put it all together to get an idea about ur zinc levels.... > > Shanthi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 I may be wrong, but the way I understand it is that the RBC tes is not a good indicator of low zinc. If the test shows normal zinc levels, the blood may be pulling zinc from bone, organs (?). But it can be a good indicator of too much zinc??? I would love to know for sure.. Thank you. Robin > > > > DK says RBCs are not a good indicator of zinc levels and does not decide zinc dosage based on RBC. He looks at Cu levels in RBCs, not zinc. > > Of course Zinc and Cu enjoy an inverse relationship. > > > > You can do hair, pee, lymphocyte and put it all together to get an idea about ur zinc levels.... > > > > Shanthi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Since Dr K is the one who put this all out to everyone,I hope he will clear all the confusion. On all the sites I have been on everyone is still confused. JoyceSubject: Re: Elemental ZincTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 5:07 PM I may be wrong, but the way I understand it is that the RBC tes is not a good indicator of low zinc. If the test shows normal zinc levels, the blood may be pulling zinc from bone, organs (?). But it can be a good indicator of too much zinc??? I would love to know for sure.. Thank you. Robin > > > > DK says RBCs are not a good indicator of zinc levels and does not decide zinc dosage based on RBC. He looks at Cu levels in RBCs, not zinc. > > Of course Zinc and Cu enjoy an inverse relationship. > > > > You can do hair, pee, lymphocyte and put it all together to get an idea about ur zinc levels.... > > > > Shanthi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Hi, My son's zyto showed up zinc as a problem (categorised as heavy metal ???). He uses zinc picolinate in relatively small doses -- approx 25mg/day, and blood tests go up and down according to dosing so I work on flecks on his fingernails and instinct at this stage. I missed dosing him prior to the zyto test but it still came up as a stressor. na > > I may be wrong, but the way I understand it is that the RBC tes is not a good indicator of low zinc. If the test shows normal zinc levels, the blood may be pulling zinc from bone, organs (?). But it can be a good indicator of too much zinc??? I would love to know for sure.. > > Thank you. > > Robin > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 As per the KPU protocol, 25-50 (elemental) mg tops adult dosage. 25 mg is high for a child by normal standards and tops if the child is half the adult weight on KPU. I dont know where all this falls if one is more severely zinc deficient. Robin > > > > I may be wrong, but the way I understand it is that the RBC tes is not a good indicator of low zinc. If the test shows normal zinc levels, the blood may be pulling zinc from bone, organs (?). But it can be a good indicator of too much zinc??? I would love to know for sure.. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Robin > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 I agree, Joyce. The elemental zinc guidelines need to be stated clearly and specifics on how to measure mineral overload or defiency as well. This is not a protocol to be taken lightly. I am reading this can bring on a HM crisis and I am not sure this is not what I have been experiencing. I was on the KPU protocol and didn't know it. 25, then 47.5 then 60,g elemental zinc in the form of zinc picolinate. My son would be on 30 mg at this point if I had not learned the diff between the salt form and the elemental form. 30 mg elemental would be beyond the recommended limit for a child on KPU. I am reading the HM crisis can hit around 4-6 weeks into protocol (which is probably a bout when i stated having strange and scary symptoms). Robin > > > > > > > > DK says RBCs are not a good indicator of zinc levels and does not decide zinc dosage based on RBC. He looks at Cu levels in RBCs, not zinc. > > > > Of course Zinc and Cu enjoy an inverse relationship. > > > > > > > > You can do hair, pee, lymphocyte and put it all together to get an idea about ur zinc levels.... > > > > > > > > Shanthi > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 I have heard that the best absorption of nutrients is accomplished by doing both supplements and also consuming foods that have the particular nutrient one wants to increase. Thus, try also consuming foods known to be high in zinc, along with the zinc supplementation. It appears that often we are low in certain nutrients due to lacking in other nutrients which are needed for absorption of that nutrient. This is why many who supplement iron and calcium do not benefit unless they also consume the other nutrients needed for proper metabolization of those nutrients. Many of the foods known to be high in zinc will also contain other nutrients to make the zinc properly metabolized. It's possible one may have to also use digestive enzymes or probiotics to assist in the nutrient absorption. Love and prayers, Heidi N > > For what it's worth, I have taken about 50 mg of elemental Zinc for > over a year and my RBC zinc test showed that I am still very > deficient in zinc!!!!! So, according to my RBC zinc test taking the 50 > mg of elemental zinc isn't enough to bring my RBC zinc level up to > normal. My serum zinc level is within the normal range though. > > So, do I have to take considerably more zinc than most other people > or is my RBC zinc test incorrect??? I am now thinking about getting the > white blood cell Lymphocyte zinc test done to see if that shows > deficient as well. > > > P.S. I tested negative for KPU but according to my RBC zinc test I am > deficient in zinc. > > > - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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