Re: Re: Blood tests pre-explant

[Guest guest]

Molly,

I think if I had to deal with all those scary dx, I would have thrown in the towel. How did you make it through? Thank god you are on the road to health. Hopefully I'll get these puppies out before I do get some positive blood results, knock on wood.

Thanks for the extensive insight. It further cements in my mind that the explant is the only way to go.

Melinda

Re: Blood tests pre-explant

Lea here recommends serum protein electrophoresus and UPEP to check for MGUS. I have not had these. Perhaps she can elaborate. My surgeon also wants me to have further metabolic tests, but that is because my metabolism & hormones are messed up.> > Hello all,> > I am wondering about blood tests pre-explant. I've had very severe symptoms, including > brain problems, nausea, eye problems, vertigo, pain in the joints, back, shoulders, neck, > etc, and had assumed that something would show up in blood tests, at least something > pointing to chronic inflammation, but I have never had anything unusual come up. They've > all been normal. I've had tests for crp, antinuclear antibodies, sedimentation rate, > rheumatism, cortisol, and the usual blood panel, and everything is normal. Don't women > with symptoms like mine usually get some sort of red flag somewhere? It makes me feel > like I'm crazy. My last ps implied that my symptoms could be psychosomatic--yeah, right, > like I would make myself so ill that I would have to quit my job and sit on the couch all > day, unable to move, for months. > > > > Anybody else have this experience? What kind of blood work did you get done and what > were the results? Shouldn't there be funky results if the implants are making you sick? > > > > Thanks for any insight!> > > > Melinda

[Guest guest]

Definitely avoid diagnoses if possible. I had a diagnosis of fibromyalgia years ago and it has kept me from getting health insurance from any private company. I have health insurance from the state high risk pool now and it costs a fortune! I pay twice for my insurance that we pay for the rest of my family with another company. I questioned the rejection and was told that fibromyalgia is classified with cancer because there is no cure. Even though I have not seen a doctor in over 6 years for fibro and have been symptom free for as long, no insurance company will consider taking the risk insuring me.

Kenda

I can't argue with this. Having been diagnosed with lupus and MS, it may be nearly

impossible for me to ever get insurance on my own.

The only possible help this might possibly bring is for settlement or litigation.

I opted not to take MS medication, because the side effects outweigh theoretical benefits.

Plaquenil has helped me a huge amount, however. But I would not think a dx would be

necessary for a doctor to prescribe that. A differential dx would and should be sufficient.

> Melinda,

>

> You can drive yourself nuts going through all these

> tests with all the awful implications of what they

> mean, should you test positive.

>

> In the process of having these tests done, you can

> rack up a list of diagnoses that will interfere with

> your ability to get insurance in the future.

>

> Many, many implanted women have experienced the same

> symptoms that you have . . . only to have the symptoms

> gradually disappear after being explanted - especially

> if they are really proactive in detoxing.

>

> The only way you will know if your symptoms are

> implant related is to have your implants properly

> removed and do everything you can to encourage your

> body to heal itself. Our bodies have incredible, God

> given healing abilities! . . . IMHO, many of the

> health problems we experience is because these healing

> functions are doing everything they can to get rid of

> the toxic substances that come with breast implants.

> Given what they need, our bodies know how to right

> themselves and restore us to health.

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

" Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

I ripped up the prescriptions that I was given for prednisone and

plaquenil. I read the side effects. Scared the living he-- out of me.

Lynda

At 12:59 PM 9/7/2005, you wrote:

>I can't argue with this. Having been diagnosed with lupus and MS, it may

>be nearly

>impossible for me to ever get insurance on my own.

>The only possible help this might possibly bring is for settlement or

>litigation.

>I opted not to take MS medication, because the side effects outweigh

>theoretical benefits.

>Plaquenil has helped me a huge amount, however. But I would not think a

>dx would be

>necessary for a doctor to prescribe that. A differential dx would and

>should be sufficient.

>

>

> > Melinda,

> >

> > You can drive yourself nuts going through all these

> > tests with all the awful implications of what they

> > mean, should you test positive.

> >

> > In the process of having these tests done, you can

> > rack up a list of diagnoses that will interfere with

> > your ability to get insurance in the future.

> >

> > Many, many implanted women have experienced the same

> > symptoms that you have . . . only to have the symptoms

> > gradually disappear after being explanted - especially

> > if they are really proactive in detoxing.

> >

> > The only way you will know if your symptoms are

> > implant related is to have your implants properly

> > removed and do everything you can to encourage your

> > body to heal itself. Our bodies have incredible, God

> > given healing abilities! . . . IMHO, many of the

> > health problems we experience is because these healing

> > functions are doing everything they can to get rid of

> > the toxic substances that come with breast implants.

> > Given what they need, our bodies know how to right

> > themselves and restore us to health.

> >

> > Hugs and prayers,

> >

> > Rogene

>

>

>

>

>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

>licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

>health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

>Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

>a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

>two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

You bet. I’m healthier than I have ever been but am considered uninsurable by regular insurance companies. What angers me even more is that 95% of my health care is with my naturopath, which isn’t covered by insurance anyway. Basically I have medical insurance in case I get hit by a train or for when I see my chiropractor.

Kenda

Another reason we need a drastic change in health care in this country.

> >> > Melinda,

> >> >

> >> > You can drive yourself nuts going through all these

> >> > tests with all the awful implications of what they

> >> > mean, should you test positive.

> >> >

> >> > In the process of having these tests done, you can

> >> > rack up a list of diagnoses that will interfere with

> >> > your ability to get insurance in the future.

> >> >

> >> > Many, many implanted women have experienced the same

> >> > symptoms that you have . . . only to have the symptoms

> >> > gradually disappear after being explanted - especially

> >> > if they are really proactive in detoxing.

> >> >

> >> > The only way you will know if your symptoms are

> >> > implant related is to have your implants properly

> >> > removed and do everything you can to encourage your

> >> > body to heal itself. Our bodies have incredible, God

> >> > given healing abilities! . . . IMHO, many of the

> >> > health problems we experience is because these healing

> >> > functions are doing everything they can to get rid of

> >> > the toxic substances that come with breast implants.

> >> > Given what they need, our bodies know how to right

> >> > themselves and restore us to health.

> >> >

> >> > Hugs and prayers,

> >> >

> >> > Rogene

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed

> > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care

> > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

> > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathy,

I’m glad you are covered now and didn’t have to go to the high risk pool. My husband is self insured so we don’t qualify for any group coverage. I have thought going back to work just to get the insurance but won’t until my kids are grown and in college.

Kenda

-

kenda

the same thing happened to me. I was diagnosed with fms about 20

years ago. My doctor wrote it in my chart. After my husband died

unexpectedly I had to go on COBRA. It was very expensive. When I

tried to get insurance on my own, I was rejected due to having fms.

I would have had to go in the high risk pool, but I was remarried

just about the time my cobra ran out.

Hugs, kathy

-- In , Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@c...>

wrote:

> > Definitely avoid diagnoses if possible. I had a diagnosis of

fibromyalgia

> > years ago and it has kept me from getting health insurance from

any private

> > company. I have health insurance from the state high risk pool

now and it

> > costs a fortune! I pay twice for my insurance that we pay for

the rest of my

> > family with another company. I questioned the rejection and was

told that

> > fibromyalgia is classified with cancer because there is no

cure. Even though

> > I have not seen a doctor in over 6 years for fibro and have been

symptom free

> > for as long, no insurance company will consider taking the risk

insuring me.

> >

> > Kenda

> >

> >

> > I can't argue with this. Having been diagnosed with lupus and

MS, it may be

> > nearly

> > impossible for me to ever get insurance on my own.

> > The only possible help this might possibly bring is for

settlement or

> > litigation.

> > I opted not to take MS medication, because the side effects

outweigh

> > theoretical benefits.

> > Plaquenil has helped me a huge amount, however. But I would not

think a dx

> > would be

> > necessary for a doctor to prescribe that. A differential dx

would and should

> > be sufficient.

> >

> > --- In , Rogene S <saxony01@y...>

wrote:

> >> > Melinda,

> >> >

> >> > You can drive yourself nuts going through all these

> >> > tests with all the awful implications of what they

> >> > mean, should you test positive.

> >> >

> >> > In the process of having these tests done, you can

> >> > rack up a list of diagnoses that will interfere with

> >> > your ability to get insurance in the future.

> >> >

> >> > Many, many implanted women have experienced the same

> >> > symptoms that you have . . . only to have the symptoms

> >> > gradually disappear after being explanted - especially

> >> > if they are really proactive in detoxing.

> >> >

> >> > The only way you will know if your symptoms are

> >> > implant related is to have your implants properly

> >> > removed and do everything you can to encourage your

> >> > body to heal itself. Our bodies have incredible, God

> >> > given healing abilities! . . . IMHO, many of the

> >> > health problems we experience is because these healing

> >> > functions are doing everything they can to get rid of

> >> > the toxic substances that come with breast implants.

> >> > Given what they need, our bodies know how to right

> >> > themselves and restore us to health.

> >> >

> >> > Hugs and prayers,

> >> >

> >> > Rogene

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given by licensed

> > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

health care

> > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

how to live a

> > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

two-time

> > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yes, it may have done that for me also, but I chose to detox and not to

take it. I heard some horror stories about that time, one woman went blind

from it, others had some horrid problems. And then I checked the

information on it, and it scared me to death.

So, detox was the only way I chose to get better. It took me a couple of

years, but I think it was right for me.

Others may make different choices.

Lynda

At 01:27 PM 9/7/2005, you wrote:

>I can only say that plaquenil has enabled me to function.

>

>

> > > > Melinda,

> > > >

> > > > You can drive yourself nuts going through all these

> > > > tests with all the awful implications of what they

> > > > mean, should you test positive.

> > > >

> > > > In the process of having these tests done, you can

> > > > rack up a list of diagnoses that will interfere with

> > > > your ability to get insurance in the future.

> > > >

> > > > Many, many implanted women have experienced the same

> > > > symptoms that you have . . . only to have the symptoms

> > > > gradually disappear after being explanted - especially

> > > > if they are really proactive in detoxing.

> > > >

> > > > The only way you will know if your symptoms are

> > > > implant related is to have your implants properly

> > > > removed and do everything you can to encourage your

> > > > body to heal itself. Our bodies have incredible, God

> > > > given healing abilities! . . . IMHO, many of the

> > > > health problems we experience is because these healing

> > > > functions are doing everything they can to get rid of

> > > > the toxic substances that come with breast implants.

> > > > Given what they need, our bodies know how to right

> > > > themselves and restore us to health.

> > > >

> > > > Hugs and prayers,

> > > >

> > > > Rogene

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

> > >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> > >health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> > >

> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead

> you.

> > >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to

> live

> > >a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> > >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > >

> > >