Guest guest Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 I can't wait to see this film -- i've read the book three separate times and it's a marvelous expozay into the corruption of big pharma. there is also a statement at the end of the book about why he fictionalized what he researched and the bottomline was that " these people kill. " Fabulous book, probably leCarre's best, imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 I can't wait to see this film -- i've read the book three separate times and it's a marvelous expozay into the corruption of big pharma. there is also a statement at the end of the book about why he fictionalized what he researched and the bottomline was that " these people kill. " Fabulous book, probably leCarre's best, imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 Hi Lea, You are not lazy, you have had so much grief in your life lately and it really zaps your energy. Not to mention the mold in your house! The mold in my house was making me really tired. I found that when I left our house for the day I felt much better than when I stayed home. I know you stay home a lot so the mold could be having a profound affect on you. The mold is gone in my house now but the repairs remain. How is your fight going? Kenda We had heard about this book from a journalist whose life has been threatened. Now they have made a movie, and all talks about is wanting to see it. I refuse to go to the theatre because I hate crowds; we will have to wait until it comes out on a DVD or videotape. I hope that every woman who has been damaged by breast implants will get to see this movie. I really feel like an emotional cripple these days, and I do not know how to find the energy to do the things that I must do. I need someone to give me a good kick in the behind to get me moving. Do any of you ladies feel this way, or am I just lazy?? Sending love to all.....Lea ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`````` Fw: The Constant Gardener >> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 19:07:11 -0400 >> >> >> >> We saw this movie today. It is powerful!!! It is >> about a giant pharmaceutical company who takes tax >> write-offs by giving free samples of their >> tuberculosis medication in the R & D stage to >> " disposal citizens " in Africa. Problem is..., there >> are side effects which can kill. The firm paid to do >> the testing for the pharmaceutical company tests for >> AIDS and if Africans refuse the medication for TB, >> their health card is cancelled and they receive NO >> healthcare. The ones who die are simply and secretly >> buried and all traces of their previous existance on >> the earth are destroyed. >> >> Every silicone implant survivor should see this >> movie! >> >> A. Nonymous > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by > licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed > health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live > a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, > two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 Stress and grief does sap your energy, that is soo true. I hope you can get mold out -- that stuff is dangerous. Have you heard of The Mold Warrior by Dr. Shoemaker? > Hi Lea, > > You are not lazy, you have had so much grief in your life lately and it > really zaps your energy. Not to mention the mold in your house! The mold > in my house was making me really tired. I found that when I left our house > for the day I felt much better than when I stayed home. I know you stay > home a lot so the mold could be having a profound affect on you. The mold > is gone in my house now but the repairs remain. How is your fight going? > > Kenda > > > We had heard about this book from a journalist whose life has been > > threatened. Now they have made a movie, and all talks about is wanting > > to see it. I refuse to go to the theatre because I hate crowds; we will have > > to wait until it comes out on a DVD or videotape. I hope that every woman > > who has been damaged by breast implants will get to see this movie. > > > > I really feel like an emotional cripple these days, and I do not know how to > > find the energy to do the things that I must do. I need someone to give me a > > good kick in the behind to get me moving. Do any of you ladies feel this > > way, or am I just lazy?? > > > > Sending love to all.....Lea > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`````` > > > > Fw: The Constant Gardener > >>> >> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 19:07:11 -0400 > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> We saw this movie today. It is powerful!!! It is > >>> >> about a giant pharmaceutical company who takes tax > >>> >> write-offs by giving free samples of their > >>> >> tuberculosis medication in the R & D stage to > >>> >> " disposal citizens " in Africa. Problem is..., there > >>> >> are side effects which can kill. The firm paid to do > >>> >> the testing for the pharmaceutical company tests for > >>> >> AIDS and if Africans refuse the medication for TB, > >>> >> their health card is cancelled and they receive NO > >>> >> healthcare. The ones who die are simply and secretly > >>> >> buried and all traces of their previous existance on > >>> >> the earth are destroyed. > >>> >> > >>> >> Every silicone implant survivor should see this > >>> >> movie! > >>> >> > >>> >> A. Nonymous > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by > >> > licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed > >> > health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. > >> > > >> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. > >> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live > >> > a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, > >> > two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > >> > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 Lea, If your theaters are like ours . . . you won't find a crowd weeknights or at afternoon shows . . . just weekends. I avoid crowds too . . . I think it has to do with all the scents from perfumes, fabric softeners etc.. I always feel bad after being in a crowd for any length of time. Love, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 Hi Lea, I’m so sorry to hear things aren’t going well. The machine does work wonders, so if there is any way to get it, it will help. Perhaps your attorney could pay for it? Have you had any type of mold testing done yet? There is definitely a lot of money involved in water/mold repair. I hope our insurance company takes our builder to court and gets every dime they will have spent on my house. The mold can make you very sick, be careful. I noticed a difference in how I felt immediately after the walls were opened. They took out all of the mold and are using four machines to clean the air and dry the room. We’ll have mold testing on Tuesday to be sure it’s all gone. Repairs should start here in about a week. I hope you can get going on your repairs soon. What’s up with your gastro intestinal tract? I’d never kick your butt. Kenda Oh Honey: Things are getting worse, they want to put a machine into our home to clean the air. It will cost 200.00 dollars per day and we do not have that kind of money. The restoration people will not clean up the mold until it can be identified. This all seems to be about money and if you are tired too, maybe the mold is making me sick. I have a very bad gastrointestinal attack tonight and it is so painful. I hope that you are going to be okay. Thank you for not offering to kick my behind. Love you lots....Lea ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~````````````````` Fw: The Constant Gardener >> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 19:07:11 -0400 >> >> >> >> We saw this movie today. It is powerful!!! It is >> about a giant pharmaceutical company who takes tax >> write-offs by giving free samples of their >> tuberculosis medication in the R & D stage to >> " disposal citizens " in Africa. Problem is..., there >> are side effects which can kill. The firm paid to do >> the testing for the pharmaceutical company tests for >> AIDS and if Africans refuse the medication for TB, >> their health card is cancelled and they receive NO >> healthcare. The ones who die are simply and secretly >> buried and all traces of their previous existance on >> the earth are destroyed. >> >> Every silicone implant survivor should see this >> movie! >> >> A. Nonymous > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by > licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed > health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live > a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, > two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 You are most welcome. Good luck to you in your litigation. In my first year of law school, the apartment I stayed in flooded. I wrote my first legal research paper sitting in a foot of water, until a friend upstairs came down and dragged me out! Afterwards, the apartment management did not repair the building properly. They put some blowers on the drywall but did not cut it out and repair it. My roommate was continually ill with bronchial infections thereafter, and I suffered some from it also. I called the EPA (who was of no help then), and ended up becoming the local mold activist. I went from door to door with a petition. The manager was leasing out apartments at a higher rate, claiming they were 'newly renovated'. Needless to say, the manager was not happy with me. At least, some people got refunds or moved out - especially one couple was upset because they had a child with severe asthma. > >> Hi Lea, > >> > >> You are not lazy, you have had so much grief in your life lately and it > >> really zaps your energy. Not to mention the mold in your house! The > >> mold > >> in my house was making me really tired. I found that when I left our > >> house > >> for the day I felt much better than when I stayed home. I know you stay > >> home a lot so the mold could be having a profound affect on you. The > >> mold > >> is gone in my house now but the repairs remain. How is your fight going? > >> > >> Kenda > >> > >> > We had heard about this book from a journalist whose life has been > >> > threatened. Now they have made a movie, and all talks about is > >> > wanting > >> > to see it. I refuse to go to the theatre because I hate crowds; we will > >> > have > >> > to wait until it comes out on a DVD or videotape. I hope that every > >> > woman > >> > who has been damaged by breast implants will get to see this movie. > >> > > >> > I really feel like an emotional cripple these days, and I do not know > >> > how to > >> > find the energy to do the things that I must do. I need someone to give > >> > me a > >> > good kick in the behind to get me moving. Do any of you ladies feel > >> > this > >> > way, or am I just lazy?? > >> > > >> > Sending love to all.....Lea > >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`````` > >> > > >> > Fw: The Constant Gardener > >> >>> >> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 19:07:11 -0400 > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> We saw this movie today. It is powerful!!! It is > >> >>> >> about a giant pharmaceutical company who takes tax > >> >>> >> write-offs by giving free samples of their > >> >>> >> tuberculosis medication in the R & D stage to > >> >>> >> " disposal citizens " in Africa. Problem is..., there > >> >>> >> are side effects which can kill. The firm paid to do > >> >>> >> the testing for the pharmaceutical company tests for > >> >>> >> AIDS and if Africans refuse the medication for TB, > >> >>> >> their health card is cancelled and they receive NO > >> >>> >> healthcare. The ones who die are simply and secretly > >> >>> >> buried and all traces of their previous existance on > >> >>> >> the earth are destroyed. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Every silicone implant survivor should see this > >> >>> >> movie! > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> A. Nonymous > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given > >> >> > by > >> >> > licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or > >> >> > licensed > >> >> > health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. > >> >> > > >> >> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians > >> >> > mislead you. > >> >> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how > >> >> > to live > >> >> > a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, > >> >> > two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > >> >> > > >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 I saw this movie over the weekend. I liked the book better (which I read 3 times) but the movie does a good job of portraying what I believe is probably GlaxoKline as the wanton thugs and murderers that they are. it's definitely worth seeing if you haven't read the book. " All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie. " ~ Bob Dylan ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 ....if you think " The Constant Gardener " was just an interesting FICTIONAL thriller movie.... THINK AGAIN !!! Tim Casey http://www.nypost.com/seven/09092005/news/regionalnews/52450.htm IDS TEST FURY By JENNIFER FERMINO Parent advocacy groups blasted the city yesterday for bullying parents to get hundreds of foster children to become guinea pigs in AIDS medicine tests. They told a state Assembly hearing that the Administration for Children's Services violated its own guidelines to obtain foster kids for clinical trials beginning in the late 1980s. " If the mother refused consent, ACS would have taken the child anyway and just charged her with neglect, " Rolando Bini, head of Parents in Action, told the legislators. " Forced consent is no consent at all, " he said. Critics said ACS had rules that would have protected kids from being improperly used, but the problem was getting the agency to follow them. " Parents do have the right to refuse [to grant consent], " said Folasade , executive director of Concerned Citizen for Family Preservation. " But there's a threat of [accusing them of] medical neglect when a parent refuses, " she said. During the hearing at 250 Broadway, members of two Assembly committees heard testimony about the 465 foster children in the city who were enrolled in AIDS drug tests until 2001. " One of the big issues we're looking at is how consent was gotten, if it was gotten, " said Assemblyman Scarborough (D-Queens), chairman of the Assembly Children and Families Committee. " That's an area that needs to be explored fully. " Last year, The Post reported abuses of the testing, including the anguished account of a foster mother whose two HIV-positive children were taken from her because she refused to give them a potentially dangerous cocktail of AIDS medications. ACS officials yesterday defended the use of foster kids in the tests, saying it was the best way of combating the AIDS epidemic. " Ninety percent of all children [with HIV in the city] were enrolled in clinical trials . . . because family members, guardians and caretakers all knew their greatest chance of fighting this disease was enrolling in trials, " Deputy Commissioner Austin said. Earlier this year, ACS hired a think tank, the Vera Institute of Justice, to review medical records and interview parents and guardians to determine what happened to the children. Their final report will probably take a year, but Austin told the legislators, " We have seen no evidence of any wrongdoing. " " It doesn't appear that any child died as a direct result of the tests, " she said. But she added, " I can't definitively say that all consents were obtained. " -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos..ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 In a message dated 9/15/05 12:23:55 PM Mountain Daylight Time, SSRI medications writes: > > ...if you think " The Constant Gardener " was just an > interesting FICTIONAL thriller movie.... THINK AGAIN > !!! > Of course it's NOT fiction. LeCarre even says so at the end odf the book, but he also admits to taming down the story because. . . as he so aptly put it, " these people kill. " Knowing what what I know about how GSK dumped outdated drugs into Africa, I'd be willing to bet that this is the pharma portrayed in LeCarre's work. " All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie. " ~ Bob Dylan ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 In a message dated 9/15/05 12:23:55 PM Mountain Daylight Time, SSRI medications writes: > > ...if you think " The Constant Gardener " was just an > interesting FICTIONAL thriller movie.... THINK AGAIN > !!! > Of course it's NOT fiction. LeCarre even says so at the end odf the book, but he also admits to taming down the story because. . . as he so aptly put it, " these people kill. " Knowing what what I know about how GSK dumped outdated drugs into Africa, I'd be willing to bet that this is the pharma portrayed in LeCarre's work. " All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie. " ~ Bob Dylan ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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