Anybody going to the FDA public hearing in Florida?

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You know what surprizes me is when you really look at Mentors web site they

talk about the reports of secondary expsoure in the children, They talk

about autoimmune problems, connective tissue disease, infections and the

need for repeat surgeries. From what I am reading they are telling people

that the implants aren't safe. I wish they would have had that information

years ago but they didn't and if they did they didn't tell us. I notice that

they discount most of the womens claims and in some cases they even have a

study to show that the claims are false but at least they mention it and

thats what we need to work with.

The way I see it they're going to sell implants no matter what we do and

women are going to continue to buy them wether they're dangerous or not.

Have any of you ever tried to talk someone out of getting implants? It's

almost immpossible! I have a close friend and people in " my own family " who

got implants, last year! After everything the kids and I have been through,

they went right in an got em' anyway. I'm not sure if she got the silicone

injections, the silicone gel filled, the soy oil filled, the botox filled,

the new ones, made from body fat and or stem cells, or the saline implants,

but what does it matter? None of them are safe! Thats why I think we need to

start thinking about insisting on participating in setting the criteria and

restrictions for breast implants such as age limits, specific studies, study

restrictions, consent forms, longterm research on the effects of the

implants and research to determain the secondary effects on the children. I

was watching the news a few weeks ago and there was a woman who was

seriously injured after a " silicone injection party " . There is a large

number of women today that are getting silicone gel from the store, injected

directly into thier breasts, from strangers that are NOT even doctors and

paying for it. Why? Because they can't afford the implants.

I'm not sure what the solution is but I know putting silicone implants back

on the market is a big mistake.

I would like to go to the FDA town meeting in Florida is anyone from your

group going?

>From: Rogene S <saxony01@...>

>Reply-SiliconeKids

>SiliconeKids ,

>< >

>Subject: RE: [siliconeKids] Talking to a Mentor rep - from Lana

>Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 21:19:45 -0700 (PDT)

>

>Lana,

>

>I doubt that any of us are qualified to oversee the

>development and testing of a breast implant . . .

>

>The chemistry is one thing, but what happens in a

>woman's body, as an implant ages, is another. . . Not

>to mention the genetic issues that could cause women

>to react differently. . . . How could we tell if the

>materials cross the placenta, or are delivered to a

>baby through breast milk?

>

>Did you ask him what kind of living studies they are

>doing? Are they being tested in women yet? Are testing

>the children born post-implant? It's a huge job!

>

>As I understood it, the gummy bear implant is just a

>reformulation of the old materials . . . structured so

>the gel isn't runny.

>

>Hopefully the FDA's scientists are up to the task!

>

>It would be a dream come true if one of our ladies has

>access to the kind of lab that could actually test the

>implants, and the recipients, right!

>

>I'm afraid that, after all the " mistatements " the

>Mentor's been caught making, I wouldn't believe

>anything the said!

>

>I'm afraid that we could look at one all day and not

>know what we're looking at!

>

>Hugs,

>

>Rogene

>

>

>--- Lana Transue <lanadearest@...> wrote:

>

> > No, it wasn't a rep. It was someone from thier

> > research department.

> > Sadly, you and I and all of the other ladies that

> > were told the implants

> > were safe were guinnie pigs and we know 1st hand

> > what can happen. Thats why

> > i think it's important for us to have a

> > representitive from one of our

> > groups involved with overseeing and helping in

> > setting the guidelines for

> > the studies that are being conducted by Mentor and

> > the FDA.

> > Lana

> >

> > >From: Rogene S <saxony01@...>

> > >Reply-SiliconeKids

> > >SiliconeKids

> > >CC: < >

> > >Subject: [siliconeKids] Talking to a Mentor rep -

> > from Lana

> > >Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 19:22:49 -0700 (PDT)

> > >

> > >Lana,

> > >

> > >You conversation with a Mentor rep sounds

> > interesting!

> > >. . .

> > >

> > >I'm afraid what came to mind was a Congressional

> > >assistent I spoke to in Washington, D.C. some years

> > >ago. He listened to very carefully, said all the

> > right

> > >things, but committed to nothing! I've never seen

> > >anyone who could speak so well and say absolutely

> > >nothing! I'm sure he was a Congressman in training.

> > >

> > >I'll post your message to . One never

> > >knows what will come of it!

> > >

> > >We do want a safe implant! . . . However I hate to

> > see

> > >women used a guinea pigs! There are already way too

> > >many of them! I wonder what will happen as the

> > implant

> > >ages, and begins shedding it's particles into a

> > >woman's system?

> > >

> > >Hugs,

> > >

> > >Rogene

> > >

> > >--- Lana Transue <lanadearest@...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > I would like to go to the meeting in Florida but

> > I

> > > > can't go alone. Is anyone

> > > > from your group going?

> > > >

> > > > Rogene,

> > > > I just wanted to let you know that I spoke with

> > a

> > > > person from Mentor today

> > > > about the problems that the kids and I had have

> > with

> > > > the hypersensitivity to

> > > > the silicon dioxide. The gentlemen was very

> > polite

> > > > and reseptive and he gave

> > > > me a chance to speak to him at great lenght

> > about

> > > > the problems with the

> > > > implants. He asked several questions about the

> > > > hypersensitivity and the

> > > > symtoms associated with that. I feel as though

> > it

> > > > was a very postive and

> > > > productive conversation.

> > > >

> > > > Although he and I do not agree as to wether or

> > not

> > > > the silicone filled

> > > > implants should be placed on the market, at

> > least he

> > > > was willing to listen

> > > > to what I had to say, without disputing with me

> > as

> > > > to wether or not implants

> > > > cause problems. I reffered him to Doctor

> > Shanklin's

> > > > and Dr. Smalley's

> > > > research studies.

> > > >

> > > > I know that this is not going to stop them from

> > > > approving or selling the

> > > > silicone gel filled implants but maybe if they

> > run

> > > > with it, it coud help to

> > > > at least lessen some of the medical problems. It

> > > > could also help in getting

> > > > the manufactures to acknowladge the potiential

> > risk

> > > > to the children and

> > > > enable them to see that they need to label the

> > > > implants accordingly. I hope

> > > > it helps.

> > > >

> > > > This gentleman from Mentor informed me that the

> > new

> > > > silicone in the gel

> > > > filled implant is much different and much

> > thicker

> > > > than the old implants.

> > > > Since there is no way we are ever going to be

> > able

> > > > to get them to stop

> > > > selling implants altogether, I think it would be

> > a

> > > > good idea for the support

> > > > groups to start communicating our personal

> > > > experiances with the

> > > > manufacturers through letters that help them to

> > > > understand our areas of

> > > > concern, so than they can come up with the

> > safest

> > > > product possible. I also

> > > > think that one of the support groups should

> > request,

> > > > in writing through

> > > > Mentors partnership program, to be actively

> > involved

> > > > in the research studies

> > > > being conducted with the FDA and Mentor. There

> > are

> > > > several women in your

> > > > group alone that would easily quailfy for a

> > postion

> > > > like that.

> > > >

> > > > You guys are probablly thinking, " SHES NUTS "

> > well I

> > > > am. A simple person and

> > > > simple minded. But the one thing I've found to

> > be

> > > > true my whole life, is you

> > > > never know untill you try and beleive me I have

> > > > acomplished many things in

> > > > my life that have even amazed me!

> > > >

> > > > The manufactures want the profits.

> > > > The women want the implants.

> > > > We, the consummers, want them to be safe.

> > > >

> > > > Why don't one of you write to the manufacture,

> > as

> > > > the head of your support

> > > > group, and request that they send your group

> > some of

> > > > the new silicone gel

> > > > filled implants, so we can see for ourselves how

> > > > long it takes for the

> > > > silicone to either seep or leak out of these

> > " new

> > > > and improved super

> > > > implants. " I would love the read the response

> > and or

> > > > see the results.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks, Lana

> > > >

> > > >

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