Guest guest Posted July 30, 2005 Report Share Posted July 30, 2005 Patty, I am getting more and more confused when it comes to diet. Low carb, no carb, high fat, low fat, etc. Can you give me a quick overview of what your diet consists of? Love, Anita Re: Liver and Spleen Enlarged - Kathy Beth!Hey, if my meat eating hunter husband can give up meat, at least for a period time, then anybody can! Truthfully, it is a mindset, and you can learn to change your diet once you understand the benefits of cutting back on meats. Our culture has wrongly taught us to expect meat at almost every meal, and almost every day of our lives. That is just not a healthy way to eat.My husband has, in fact, experienced the benefits of detoxing to the point that he feels lethargic after a meal with meat, and almost regrets doing so. He has a routine down now, so we do enjoy meat occasionally, maybe once a week, and we eat smaller portions of it when we do eat it. We also enjoy fish alot more often.What I wanted to point out was that meats do contribute toward liver congestion, through excess uric acid. This is the main problem in gout, a "rich man's disease", which you might want to read about. http://www.niams.nih.gov/hi/topics/gout/gout.htmThe recommendations for treatment for gout include removing meats:http://www.cjthakkar.com/gout.htmlWe tend to eat too much protein in our culture. When we eat too much protein, this places a burden on our body, so the answer lies in cutting back on our meats and going back to a more natural diet in which meats are eaten almost as a side dish. Remember how in Biblical days, to celebrate they would kill the fattened calf? They certainly didn't eat meat every day. Many cultures survive on vegetables and rice, with meat a rare treat. They are actually better off! Here are a few websites that discuss the disadvantages of eating alot of meat.http://www.hps-online.com/foodprof4.htmhttp://www.juiceguy.com/Meat-toxic-substance-hard-to-digest.shtmlHere's a website that lists some menu ideas for a detox diet:http://wwwweightlossresources.co.uk/diet/detox/plan.htmHope that helps!Patty> Hi Kathy,> > Not eating meat? That is strange. God, I don't even know if I could even give it up. Tough one but if I want to get better. Maybe I'll try the castor oil first and if that doesn't work then I'll eliminate the meat. I have such pain that I haven't been able to wear jeans or belts for about 3 years now. 3 years and the doctors still don't know what the hell is going on. Only that they can't see my gallbladder! > > I'm detoxing using 600mg of Milk thistle. 900mg actually seemed to help a bit better but it knocks me out. I'm also taking olive leaf extract, flax seed oil, grape seed extract, garlic tablets and magnesium. I got rid of the sinus problems and the yeast infections. I just need to work on the liver problems. > > I was in alot of pain last night with my spleen. When it starts to hurt, that area actually swells up and I can't wear a bra of any kind.> > Thanks so much for the information and I'll let you know how I do.Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2005 Report Share Posted July 30, 2005 Sure Anita! I think I wrote about a few of my guidelines a few weeks back, but as a general statement, I try to eat my foods as close to their natural form as possible, and to concentrate on plant foods. That means I buy organic things when I can, I try to concentrate on fruits and vegetables in season, and I consume only raw dairy products. Our meat is from the wild game my husband hunts successfully. We also eat salmon and other fish occasionally. I actually try to follow a diet as close to the Mediterranean diet, or a biblical diet as I can. I think Dr. Jordan Rubin's book, " The Maker's Diet " gives great guidelines. I think it is wise to avoid alot of high carbs--as in breads, pastas, chips, and other flour or grain based foods that are highly processed. They are just fat builders. I think whole grains are great, but I also think many of us need to be aware of whether or not we have a grain allergy or gluten intolerance. I eat way, way less bread and pasta than I used to. I used to love bread, but I rarely eat it at home anymore. When we do eat wheat products, I try to make sure they are whole wheat, and with oats, I buy the whole oat (none of this quick processed stuff. For those who like instant oatmeal, I suggest adding oat bran to the bowl to slow down the metabolism of it.) I also do not eat potatoes anymore because of their high starch content, that causes the pancreas to literally gush with insulin production, much like sugars do. I have heard it said that eating a potatoe is like eating sugar! Of course, we try to avoid eating too much sugar, but when we do have treats, we try to have something with some redeeming qualities, like fruit pies, or fruit crisps, made with whole oats and sucanat. We eat well, but we are not so inflexible that we can't have fun once in awhile. As for fats, I am totally into eating a healthy quantity of good ones! They are necessary for healthy hair, healthy cells, brain health. I think the low fat fad is actually quite dangerous, and there is alot of very misleading info out there about them. Fats are so important for our body, and for many aspects of our body functions. We use organic butter, olive oil and coconut oil and we do not use low fat products in our house. As I said, as close to their natural form as possible, so we use no fake anything, and I don't try to skimp either. So, breakfasts are things like fruit and yogurt smoothies, (to which I add a raw egg and ground flax seeds); or fresh fruit; raw milk cheese and whole wheat crackers; organic peanut butter and celery sticks; right now we are kinda into watermelon! Lunches are salads, or if we are fast fooding it, we tend to get the Subway type turkey sandwiches in a wrap. Dinners usually include salads as well, or if we are having any meat, a side dish of vegetables. I make alot of soups too, using alot of veggies and might add a little meat. Soups are great...I love them! I also make casseroles with rice and a little bit of meat once in awhile. My family's absolute favorite is an Arabic dish called Machbous that is made with chicken, rice and lots of spices. It is delicious! I hope that helps--we can talk more when you come over! I hope you are hanging in there okay, Anita....how is your son doing? Hugs, Patty --- In , " anita kessler " <AnitaK001@m...> wrote: > Patty, > I am getting more and more confused when it comes to diet. Low carb, no carb, high fat, low fat, etc. Can you give me a quick overview of what your diet consists of? Love, Anita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2005 Report Share Posted July 30, 2005 What Patty did not mention is that the chicken or other meat needs to be free range (without hormones, antibiotics, etc.) We don't need the crap that comes in meat. Eggs also need to be free range. Fish should be deep ocean and not colored artificially like some salmon. Vegetables should be organic. If you grow some of your own it helps. Pasta and bread turns to sugar in your system. If you eat them, get whole wheat or some of the alternatives and eat them sparingly. A small amount of potatoes mixed with other foods will not give you a huge insulin surge, but beware the hash browns, mashed potatoes and baked potatoes. If you have a small amount in a soup or something like that, it is alright. It is the large servings that will cause the insulin surge. I cannot eat raw dairy, but I use organic. Raw makes me puke. And I don't use raw eggs, because even the free range can carry salmonella. But my diet is similar to Patty's most of the time. Pure maple syrup can be used in small amounts in some desserts (ie., fresh fruit crushed and put over something). It cuts down on calories to use that instead of other products. Avoiding most sugars is the best. Consume any sugars right after a meal to cut down on insulin reaction. Whole grains such as barley, quinoa, buckwheat, etc. are better than white pasta or rice. I use brown rice and forbidden rice (black) and in great moderation. I use many other grains, all in great moderation. Organic if I can get them. Lynda At 10:00 AM 7/30/2005, you wrote: >Sure Anita! >I think I wrote about a few of my guidelines a few weeks back, but as >a general statement, I try to eat my foods as close to their natural >form as possible, and to concentrate on plant foods. That means I buy >organic things when I can, I try to concentrate on fruits and >vegetables in season, and I consume only raw dairy products. Our meat >is from the wild game my husband hunts successfully. We also eat >salmon and other fish occasionally. I actually try to follow a diet >as close to the Mediterranean diet, or a biblical diet as I can. I >think Dr. Jordan Rubin's book, " The Maker's Diet " gives great >guidelines. > >I think it is wise to avoid alot of high carbs--as in breads, pastas, >chips, and other flour or grain based foods that are highly >processed. They are just fat builders. I think whole grains are >great, but I also think many of us need to be aware of whether or not >we have a grain allergy or gluten intolerance. I eat way, way less >bread and pasta than I used to. I used to love bread, but I rarely >eat it at home anymore. When we do eat wheat products, I try to make >sure they are whole wheat, and with oats, I buy the whole oat (none of >this quick processed stuff. For those who like instant oatmeal, I >suggest adding oat bran to the bowl to slow down the metabolism of >it.) I also do not eat potatoes anymore because of their high starch >content, that causes the pancreas to literally gush with insulin >production, much like sugars do. I have heard it said that eating a >potatoe is like eating sugar! > >Of course, we try to avoid eating too much sugar, but when we do have >treats, we try to have something with some redeeming qualities, like >fruit pies, or fruit crisps, made with whole oats and sucanat. We eat >well, but we are not so inflexible that we can't have fun once in >awhile. > >As for fats, I am totally into eating a healthy quantity of good >ones! They are necessary for healthy hair, healthy cells, brain >health. I think the low fat fad is actually quite dangerous, and >there is alot of very misleading info out there about them. Fats are >so important for our body, and for many aspects of our body functions. >We use organic butter, olive oil and coconut oil and we do not use low >fat products in our house. As I said, as close to their natural form >as possible, so we use no fake anything, and I don't try to skimp >either. > >So, breakfasts are things like fruit and yogurt smoothies, (to which I >add a raw egg and ground flax seeds); or fresh fruit; raw milk cheese >and whole wheat crackers; organic peanut butter and celery sticks; >right now we are kinda into watermelon! > >Lunches are salads, or if we are fast fooding it, we tend to get the >Subway type turkey sandwiches in a wrap. > >Dinners usually include salads as well, or if we are having any meat, >a side dish of vegetables. I make alot of soups too, using alot of >veggies and might add a little meat. Soups are great...I love them! >I also make casseroles with rice and a little bit of meat once in >awhile. My family's absolute favorite is an Arabic dish called >Machbous that is made with chicken, rice and lots of spices. It is >delicious! > >I hope that helps--we can talk more when you come over! I hope you >are hanging in there okay, Anita....how is your son doing? >Hugs, >Patty > > > > > >--- In , " anita kessler " <AnitaK001@m...> >wrote: > > Patty, > > I am getting more and more confused when it comes to diet. Low >carb, no carb, high fat, low fat, etc. Can you give me a quick >overview of what your diet consists of? Love, Anita > > > > > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed >health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live >a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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