Re: Re: Liver and Spleen Enlarged

[Guest guest]

Hi,

You must have never been to any of the New England states as they live off of lobster, shrimp, crabs, etc. I love them all.

KendalKenda Skaggs <skaggs@...> wrote:

Not only are shrimp and lobster expensive, they are considered tabu because they are “cockroaches of the sea”. They are scavengers and are considered very toxic.Kenda

Hi Patty, Sounds like there isn't much left for me to eat. I hate all veggies except brocolli and squash. I hate salmon, YUCH! Don't like any fruits unless they are in a blender and can't eat salad because it irritates my stomach. At one time I was buying free range as much as possible but now that I'm on a fixed income that is impossible for me. I guess I'm just going to have to starve. If I could, I'd live on filet mignon, lobster and shrimp. I've been a picky eater since I can remember. My Mom tried everything to get me to eat. I didn't like food at all when I was a child. She fought me about everything. I loved cake and Mcs. Refused to eat anything else. Spent many nights in my room because I just wouldn't eat. She finally gave in and off to Mcs it was! I was very stubborn though. Now my favorites are lobster,

shrimp and filet. Halibut is really good too but all these things are expensive.glory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401@...> wrote:

Beth!Hey, if my meat eating hunter husband can give up meat, at least for a period time, then anybody can! Truthfully, it is a mindset, and you can learn to change your diet once you understand the benefits of cutting back on meats. Our culture has wrongly taught us to expect meat at almost every meal, and almost every day of our lives. That is just not a healthy way to eat.My husband has, in fact, experienced the benefits of detoxing to the point that he feels lethargic after a meal with meat, and almost regrets doing so. He has a routine down now, so we do enjoy meat occasionally, maybe once a week, and we eat smaller portions of it when we do eat it. We also enjoy fish alot more often.What I wanted to point out was that meats do contribute toward liver congestion, through excess uric acid. p; This is the main problem in gout, a "rich man's disease", which

you might want to read about. http://www.niams.nih.gov/hi/topics/gout/gout.htmThe recommendations for treatment for gout include removing meats:http://www.cjthakkar.com/gout.htmlWe tend to eat too much protein in our culture. When we eat too much protein, this places a burden on our body, so the answer lies in cutting back on our meats and going back to a more natural diet in which meats are eaten almost as a side dish. Remember how in Biblical days, to celebrate they would kill the fattened calf? They certainly didn't eat meat every day. Many cultures survive on vegetables and rice, with meat a rare treat. They are actually better off! Here are a few websites that discuss the disadvantages of eating alot o f meat.http://www.hps-online.com/foodprof4.htmhttp://www.juiceguy.com/Meat-toxic-substance-hard-to-digest.shtmlHere's a website that lists some menu ideas for a detox

diet:http://www.weightlossresources.co.uk/diet/detox/plan.htmHope that helps!Patty> Hi Kathy,> > Not eating meat? That is strange. God, I don't even know if I could even give it up. Tough one but if I want to get better. Maybe I'll try the castor oil first and if that doesn't work then I'll eliminate the meat. I have such pain that I haven't been able to wear jeans or belts for about 3 years now. 3 years and the doctors still don't know what the hell is going on. Only that they can't see my gallbladder! > > I'm detoxing using 600mg of Milk thistle. 900mg actually seemed to help a bit better but it knocks me out. I'm also taking olive leaf extract, flax seed oil, grape seed extract, garlic tablets and magnesium. I got rid of the

sinus problems and the yeast infections. I just need to work on the liver problems. > > I was in alot of pain last night with my spleen. When it starts to hurt, that area actually swells up and I can't wear a bra of any kind.> > Thanks so much for the information and I'll let you know how I do.Beth S. "Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole." - Caras

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[Guest guest]

Not only are shrimp and lobster expensive, they are considered tabu because they are “cockroaches of the sea”. They are scavengers and are considered very toxic.

Kenda

Hi Patty,

Sounds like there isn't much left for me to eat. I hate all veggies except brocolli and squash. I hate salmon, YUCH! Don't like any fruits unless they are in a blender and can't eat salad because it irritates my stomach. At one time I was buying free range as much as possible but now that I'm on a fixed income that is impossible for me.

I guess I'm just going to have to starve. If I could, I'd live on filet mignon, lobster and shrimp.

I've been a picky eater since I can remember. My Mom tried everything to get me to eat. I didn't like food at all when I was a child. She fought me about everything. I loved cake and Mcs. Refused to eat anything else. Spent many nights in my room because I just wouldn't eat. She finally gave in and off to Mcs it was! I was very stubborn though. Now my favorites are lobster, shrimp and filet. Halibut is really good too but all these things are expensive.

glory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401@...> wrote:

Beth!

Hey, if my meat eating hunter husband can give up meat, at least for

a period time, then anybody can! Truthfully, it is a mindset, and

you can learn to change your diet once you understand the benefits

of cutting back on meats. Our culture has wrongly taught us to

expect meat at almost every meal, and almost every day of our lives.

That is just not a healthy way to eat.

My husband has, in fact, experienced the benefits of detoxing to the

point that he feels lethargic after a meal with meat, and almost

regrets doing so. He has a routine down now, so we do enjoy meat

occasionally, maybe once a week, and we eat smaller portions of it

when we do eat it. We also enjoy fish alot more often.

What I wanted to point out was that meats do contribute toward liver

congestion, through excess uric acid. p; This is the main problem in

gout, a " rich man's disease " , which you might want to read about.

http://www.niams.nih.gov/hi/topics/gout/gout.htm

The recommendations for treatment for gout include removing meats:

http://www.cjthakkar.com/gout.html

We tend to eat too much protein in our culture. When we eat too much

protein, this places a burden on our body, so the answer lies in

cutting back on our meats and going back to a more natural diet in

which meats are eaten almost as a side dish. Remember how in

Biblical days, to celebrate they would kill the fattened calf? They

certainly didn't eat meat every day. Many cultures survive on

vegetables and rice, with meat a rare treat. They are actually

better off!

Here are a few websites that discuss the disadvantages of eating

alot o f meat.

http://www.hps-online.com/foodprof4.htm

http://www.juiceguy.com/Meat-toxic-substance-hard-to-digest.shtml

Here's a website that lists some menu ideas for a detox diet:

http://www.weightlossresources.co.uk/diet/detox/plan.htm

Hope that helps!

Patty

--- In , " Beth S. " <schaffe88@y...>

wrote:

> Hi Kathy,

>

> Not eating meat? That is strange. God, I don't even know if I

could even give it up. Tough one but if I want to get better.

Maybe I'll try the castor oil first and if that doesn't work then

I'll eliminate the meat. I have such pain that I haven't been able

to wear jeans or belts for about 3 years now. 3 years and the

doctors still don't know what the hell is going on. Only that they

can't see my gallbladder!

>

> I'm detoxing using 600mg of Milk thistle. 900mg actually seemed

to help a bit better but it knocks me out. I'm also taking olive

leaf extract, flax seed oil, grape seed extract, garlic tablets and

magnesium. I got rid of the sinus problems and the yeast

infections. I just need to work on the liver problems.

>

> I was in alot of pain last night with my spleen. When it starts

to hurt, that area actually swells up and I can't wear a bra of any

kind.

>

> Thanks so much for the information and I'll let you know how I do.

Beth S.

" Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole. " - Caras

Start your day with - make it your home page <http://us.rd./evt=34442/*http://www./r/hs>

Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

" Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Yes, I have been to the New England states and love it there! I straightened my diet up after my visit, as it was many years ago.

Kenda

Hi,

You must have never been to any of the New England states as they live off of lobster, shrimp, crabs, etc. I love them all.

Kendal

Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@...> wrote:

Not only are shrimp and lobster expensive, they are considered tabu because they are “cockroaches of the sea”. They are scavengers and are considered very toxic.

Kenda

Hi Patty,

Sounds like there isn't much left for me to eat. I hate all veggies except brocolli and squash. I hate salmon, YUCH! Don't like any fruits unless they are in a blender and can't eat salad because it irritates my stomach. At one time I was buying free range as much as possible but now that I'm on a fixed income that is impossible for me.

I guess I'm just going to have to starve. If I could, I'd live on filet mignon, lobster and shrimp.

I've been a picky eater since I can remember. My Mom tried everything to get me to eat. I didn't like food at all when I was a child. She fought me about everything. I loved cake and Mcs. Refused to eat anything else. Spent many nights in my room because I just wouldn't eat. She finally gave in and off to Mcs it was! I was very stubborn though. Now my favorites are lo bster, shrimp and filet. Halibut is really good too but all these things are expensive.

glory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401@...> wrote:

Beth!

Hey, if my meat eating hunter husband can give up meat, at least for

a period time, then anybody can! Truthfully, it is a mindset, and

you can learn to change your diet once you understand the benefits

of cutting back on meats. Our culture has wrongly taught us to

expect meat at almost every meal, and almost every day of our lives.

That is just not a healthy way to eat.

My husband has, in fact, experienced the benefits of detoxing to the

point that he feels lethargic after a meal with meat, and almost

regrets doing so. He has a routine down now, so we do enjoy meat

occasionally, maybe once a week, and we eat smaller portions of it

when we do eat it. We also enjoy fish alot more often.

What I wanted to point out was that meats do contribute toward liver

congestion, through excess uric acid. p; This is the main problem in

gout, a " rich man's disease " , which you might want to read about.

http://www.niams.nih.gov/hi/topics/gout/gout.htm

The recommendations for treatment for gout include removing meats:

http://www.cjthakkar.com/gout.html

We tend to eat too much protein in our culture. When we eat too much

protein, this places a burden on our body, so the answer lies in

cutting back on our meats and going back to a more natural diet in

which meats are eaten almost as a side dish. Remember how in

Biblical days, to celebrate they would kill the fattened calf? They

certainly didn't eat meat every day. Many cultures survive on

vegetables and rice, with meat a rare treat. They are actually

better off!

Here are a few websites that discuss the disadvantages of eating

alot o f meat.

http://www.hps-online.com/foodprof4.htm

http://www.juiceguy.com/Meat-toxic-substance-hard-to-digest.shtml

Here's a website that lists some menu ideas for a detox diet:

http://www.weightlossresources.co.uk/diet/detox/plan.htm

Hope that helps!

Patty

--- In , " Beth S. " <schaffe88@y...>

wrote:

> Hi Kathy,

>

> Not eating meat? That is strange. God, I don't even know if I

could even give it up. Tough one but if I want to get better.

Maybe I'll try the castor oil first and if that doesn't work then

I'll eliminate the meat. I have such pain that I haven't been able

to wear jeans or belts for about 3 years now. 3 years and the

doctors still don't know what the hell is going on. Only that they

can't see my gallbladder!

>

> I'm detoxing using 600mg of Milk thistle. 900mg actually seemed

to help a bit better but it knocks me out. I'm also taking olive

leaf extract, flax seed oil, grape seed extract, garlic tablets and

magnesium. I got rid of the sinus problems and the yeast

infections. I just need to work on the liver problems.

>

> I was in alot of pain last night with my spleen. When it starts

to hurt, that area actually swells up and I can't wear a bra of any

kind.

>

> Thanks so much for the information and I'll let you know how I do.

Beth S.

" Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole. " - Caras

Start your day with - make it your home page <http://us.rd./evt=34442/*http://www./r/hs>

Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

" Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)