Re: Had a Miserable PAINFUL Christmas and now am Bleeding Again - HELP

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wrote: So anyone have any idea of what I should do? Think I should stop the E cream for awhile and just use P? I think that titrating to our symptoms is just getting too dangerous. I think a steady and stable dose is what I need. You women without a uterus don't have to worry about this, but this bleeding is a killer. Literally. , I am glad you are having yourself checked. My periods were real bad for a while too, but they have improved significantly once I got my thyroid stabilized and starting to take iodine. Not sure which is doing what, probably both. I had a fairly good bleed this

month, but no gushing (have been there) and no pain. I do take low dose P (5mg P/BID for 14 days out of the month). Hope your gyno can get a handle on it for you. Madeleen

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My periods

were real bad for a while too, but they have improved significantly once I got

my thyroid stabilized and starting to take iodine

Madeleen

Madeleen,

That is a good

reminder that heavy periods are a hypo T sign. My step daughter had terrible

heavy cramping periods that were corrected with armour thyroid, rather than the

pill the gyno put her on at 16. She is 21 now, and this past summer she ran out

of armour, and before she got back home for more, her heavy miserable periods

came back immediately.

I was hypo also

my entire life with miserable heavy long periods that came late also and bad

PMS. Armour cleared it all up for me.

nne

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If you are still flashing, you need estrogen. Why 90 mg of P gel? 45 mg of Crinone for 10 days will protect the endometrium.

Val

-----Original Message-----From: rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ]On Behalf Of Hi Mad -- I'm just not sure if I am supposed to be bleeding. I had no bleed for 6 months and now this. Anyway, I began using my crinone 8% vaginal P gel and within 3 days, my bleeding stopped. BUT, after using 90mgs of P for 4 days in a row, guess what happened? I got MAJOR spasms in my neck and aches down my spine (ala WILEY) and got a migraine headache. The 90 mgs of P makes me SICK. It happens EVERY TIME. Every time I use P above 20 mgs, I have muscle spasms in the neck. I'm so TIRED of this. My doctor told me I'm in danger using only 20 mg of P for 14 days a month. I don't know anymore. I'm ready to give up. My thyroid looks okay by the way- I just go all my results - Free T4 is 1.0 (.8 -1.8 range) and my Free T3 is 323 (230-420 pg/dL range). I don't think my thyroid has anything to do with it. I'm so frustrated. And I'm STILL having flashes!

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All I had was 90mg crinone so I used it. And it did the trick

nicely. My doctor thinks I'm risking cancer because I use 4 mg of

E cream every day. He wants me using 100 mg a DAY for the whole

MONTH! Forget it!

>

> If you are still flashing, you need estrogen. Why 90 mg of P

gel? 45 mg of

> Crinone for 10 days will protect the endometrium.

>

> Val

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: rhythmicliving

> [mailto:rhythmicliving ]On Behalf Of

>

>

> Hi Mad -- I'm just not sure if I am supposed to be bleeding. I

had

> no bleed for 6 months and now this. Anyway, I began using my

> crinone 8% vaginal P gel and within 3 days, my bleeding stopped.

> BUT, after using 90mgs of P for 4 days in a row, guess what

> happened? I got MAJOR spasms in my neck and aches down my spine

(ala

> WILEY) and got a migraine headache. The 90 mgs of P makes me

SICK.

> It happens EVERY TIME. Every time I use P above 20 mgs, I have

> muscle spasms in the neck. I'm so TIRED of this. My doctor

told

> me I'm in danger using only 20 mg of P for 14 days a month. I

don't

> know anymore. I'm ready to give up. My thyroid looks okay by the

> way- I just go all my results - Free T4 is 1.0 (.8 -1.8 range)

and

> my Free T3 is 323 (230-420 pg/dL range). I don't think my thyroid

> has anything to do with it. I'm so frustrated. And I'm STILL

> having flashes!

>

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wrote: He wants me using 100 mg a DAY for the whole MONTH! Forget it! Pardon me , but he is NUTS,he ought to join the Wiley team and blimp out. Madeleen >> If you are still flashing, you need estrogen. Why 90 mg of P gel? 45 mg of> Crinone for 10 days will protect the

endometrium.> > Val> > -----Original Message-----> From: rhythmicliving > [mailto:rhythmicliving ]On Behalf Of > > > Hi Mad -- I'm just not sure if I am supposed to be bleeding. I had> no bleed for 6 months and now this. Anyway, I began using my> crinone 8% vaginal P gel and within 3 days, my bleeding stopped.> BUT, after using 90mgs of P for 4 days in a row, guess what> happened? I got MAJOR spasms in my neck and aches down my spine (ala> WILEY) and got a migraine headache. The 90 mgs of P makes me SICK.> It happens EVERY TIME. Every time I use P above 20 mgs, I have> muscle spasms in the neck. I'm so TIRED of this. My doctor told> me I'm in danger

using only 20 mg of P for 14 days a month. I don't> know anymore. I'm ready to give up. My thyroid looks okay by the> way- I just go all my results - Free T4 is 1.0 (.8 -1.8 range) and> my Free T3 is 323 (230-420 pg/dL range). I don't think my thyroid> has anything to do with it. I'm so frustrated. And I'm STILL> having flashes!>

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We need to remember that topical P cream, P vaginal gel, and oral P are totally different animals. 100 mg of ORAL P is the typical daily dose if using it every day. 90 mg of vaginal P gel is a LOT. Is the Crinone packaged such that you can use 1/2 of it at a time?

4 mg of E cream may be a lot and it may be nothing. It depends on what it does to your E2 level. For you, its probably doing absolutely nothing.

Val

-----Original Message-----From: rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ]On Behalf Of All I had was 90mg crinone so I used it. And it did the trick nicely. My doctor thinks I'm risking cancer because I use 4 mg of E cream every day. He wants me using 100 mg a DAY for the whole MONTH! Forget it! >> If you are still flashing, you need estrogen. Why 90 mg of P gel? 45 mg of> Crinone for 10 days will protect the endometrium.