Shedding of Silicone Particles from Inflated Breast Implants

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Thanks Lea . . . We're now at 26 years and counting .

.. . .

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At 02:54 PM 3/11/02 -0800, you wrote:

PLEASE POST

Dearest Ilena:

Look what I found today. They knew this 22 years ago!

This letter to the editor, " Shedding of Silicone

Particles from Inflated Breast Implants, " in Plastic &

Reconstructive Surgery, by Dr. A. Vargas, was

published in August 1979. It follows. " Sir: Seven

years ago we placed an inflatable prosthesis in a

small breast. There was never any problem, but

recently we exchanged the prosthesis because the

patient wanted a larger size. On removal, we found

spots like collections of sand on the surface of the

implant; in some ways they resembled the spots made by

fungi on slides stored in a humid place. The fibrous

capsule, though thin, also had areas with the same

characteristics. Another patient had a similar

implantation of another brand* of inflatable

prosthesis 5 years ago; she had had no problems, but

wanted it exchanged for a larger size.

On removal of the prosthesis we found the same kind of

spots on the outer surface of the implant and in some

areas of the fibrous capsule. The pathology findings

on the two fibrous capsules were the same--lamellae of

dense, fibrous tissue forming a capsule, with sticky

particles on the inner surface. There was no

malignancy. The concretions on the prostheses were

examined in the chemistry laboratory at Javeriana

University, and at the National University in Bogot·.

The specimens contained inorganic salts, nitrogen

compounds, and an inert substance which, on infrared

spectroscopy, demonstrated the silicon-carbon bond.

One wonders how many of the hundreds of thousands of

breast implants that have been in place for years

without any symptoms might show similar

findings--perhaps from depolymerization or some other

change? This is a rhetorical question to which I do

not know the answer. Axel Vargas, M.D. Instituto Saint

Michel Carrera 7a, No. 60-20 Bogot·, Columbia [sic]

* The two prostheses were different brands, both

well-known, widely-used, and made in the USA. " This

sounds like something Dr. Blais has been saying for

years, that is, that there were problems with these

devices many years ago...but it was kept hidden by the

manufacturers and unknown to anyone not reading the

learned journals. Thank you for helping us to expose

the truth.

Love as always........Lea

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Dear Lea,

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never. Of course, they don't want to see anything that

disagrees with their stance!

Just keep persisting like you have! . . . You have the

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I do hope you can reach a satisfactory settlement

though . . . going to trial would be extremely

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through the only means that seems to matter to them

(money), there's no amount of money that can make you

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I pray that God has just punishment for all those who

have injured, and killed, so many women and children.

Love,

Rogene

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Lea,

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that's been bothering me for at least a year . . . It

really got bad when I was on the antineoplastic

(cancer) medication. . . . But now I hardly notice it!

As I understand it, they're basically enzymes the body

uses to build muscle.

Love,

Rogene

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Lea,

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.. regardless of the cards you hold! . . .

Don't let them intimidate you! You KNOW you have truth

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Hugs,

Rogene

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Lea,

You might borrow a suggestion from regarding

Glutamine, N.A.C. and something else I can't remember

right now. . . I recently started taking those two

supplements and have seen a big difference in the

amount of pain I'm experiencing. The more Glutamine I

take, the better I feel! . . . I've had a shoulder

that's been bothering me for at least a year . . . It

really got bad when I was on the antineoplastic

(cancer) medication. . . . But now I hardly notice it!

As I understand it, they're basically enzymes the body

uses to build muscle.

Love,

Rogene

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Glad you are seeing great results, Rogene! I bought some L-glutamine too. (It's an amino acid.) The other things I take are alpha lipoic acid and N-acetyl-cysteine. All good for detoxing and supporting the liver. I am really happy to say that since my root canal extraction, my knee pain is greatly relieved! PattyRogene S <saxony01@...> wrote: Lea,You might borrow a suggestion from regardingGlutamine, N.A.C. and something else I can't rememberright now. . . I recently started taking those twosupplements and have seen a big difference in theamount of pain I'm experiencing. The more Glutamine Itake, the better I feel! . . . I've had a shoulderthat's been bothering me for at least a year . .

.. Itreally got bad when I was on the antineoplastic(cancer) medication. . . . But now I hardly notice it!As I understand it, they're basically enzymes the bodyuses to build muscle. Love,Rogene

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> > >> Subject: An interesting article from 1979!!!

> > >>

> > >> PLEASE POST

> > >>

> > >> Dearest Ilena:

> > >>

> > >> Look what I found today. They knew this 22 years ago!

> > >>

> > >> This letter to the editor, " Shedding of Silicone

> > >> Particles from Inflated Breast Implants, " in Plastic &

> > >> Reconstructive Surgery, by Dr. A. Vargas, was

> > >> published in August 1979. It follows. " Sir: Seven

> > >> years ago we placed an inflatable prosthesis in a

> > >> small breast. There was never any problem, but

> > >> recently we exchanged the prosthesis because the

> > >> patient wanted a larger size. On removal, we found

> > >> spots like collections of sand on the surface of the

> > >> implant; in some ways they resembled the spots made by

> > >> fungi on slides stored in a humid place. The fibrous

> > >> capsule, though thin, also had areas with the same

> > >> characteristics. Another patient had a similar

> > >> implantation of another brand* of inflatable

> > >> prosthesis 5 years ago; she had had no problems, but

> > >> wanted it exchanged for a larger size.

> > >>

> > >> On removal of the prosthesis we found the same kind of

> > >> spots on the outer surface of the implant and in some

> > >> areas of the fibrous capsule. The pathology findings

> > >> on the two fibrous capsules were the same--lamellae of

> > >> dense, fibrous tissue forming a capsule, with sticky

> > >> particles on the inner surface. There was no

> > >> malignancy. The concretions on the prostheses were

> > >> examined in the chemistry laboratory at Javeriana

> > >> University, and at the National University in Bogot.

> > >> The specimens contained inorganic salts, nitrogen

> > >> compounds, and an inert substance which, on infra-red

> > >> spectroscopy, demonstrated the silicon-carbon bond.

> > >>

> > >> One wonders how many of the hundreds of thousands of

> > >> breast implants that have been in place for years

> > >> without any symptoms might show similar

> > >> findings--perhaps from depolymerization or some other

> > >> change?

> > >>

> > >> This is a rhetorical question to which I do not know

> > >> the answer. Axel Vargas, M.D. Instituto Saint Michel

> > >> Carrera 7a, No. 60-20 Bogot·, Columbia [sic]. The two

> > >> prostheses were different brands, both well-known,

> > >> widely-used, and made in the USA. "

> > >>

> > >> This sounds like something Dr. Blais has been saying

> > >> for years, that is, that there were problems with

> > >> these devices many years ago...but it was kept hidden

> > >> by the manufacturers and unknown to anyone not reading

> > >> the learned journals. Thank you for helping us to

> > >> expose the truth.

> > >>

> > >> Love as always........

> > >>

> > >> Lea

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given

> by

> > >> licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

> licensed

> > >> health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> > >>

> > >> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> mislead

> > you.

> > >> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

how

> to

> > live

> > >> a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

ing,

> > >> two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > >>

> > >>

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Here is the article on silicone particles...love...Lea

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> >> From: " Lea (by way of ilena rose) "

> >> <devans@...>

> >> <Recipient List Suppressed:>

> >> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 4:54 PM

> >> Subject: An interesting article from 1979!!!

> >>

> >> PLEASE POST

> >>

> >> Dearest Ilena:

> >>

> >> Look what I found today. They knew this 22 years ago!

> >>

> >> This letter to the editor, " Shedding of Silicone

> >> Particles from Inflated Breast Implants, " in Plastic &

> >> Reconstructive Surgery, by Dr. A. Vargas, was

> >> published in August 1979. It follows. " Sir: Seven

> >> years ago we placed an inflatable prosthesis in a

> >> small breast. There was never any problem, but

> >> recently we exchanged the prosthesis because the

> >> patient wanted a larger size. On removal, we found

> >> spots like collections of sand on the surface of the

> >> implant; in some ways they resembled the spots made by

> >> fungi on slides stored in a humid place. The fibrous

> >> capsule, though thin, also had areas with the same

> >> characteristics. Another patient had a similar

> >> implantation of another brand* of inflatable

> >> prosthesis 5 years ago; she had had no problems, but

> >> wanted it exchanged for a larger size.

> >>

> >> On removal of the prosthesis we found the same kind of

> >> spots on the outer surface of the implant and in some

> >> areas of the fibrous capsule. The pathology findings

> >> on the two fibrous capsules were the same--lamellae of

> >> dense, fibrous tissue forming a capsule, with sticky

> >> particles on the inner surface. There was no

> >> malignancy. The concretions on the prostheses were

> >> examined in the chemistry laboratory at Javeriana

> >> University, and at the National University in Bogot.

> >> The specimens contained inorganic salts, nitrogen

> >> compounds, and an inert substance which, on infra-red

> >> spectroscopy, demonstrated the silicon-carbon bond.

> >>

> >> One wonders how many of the hundreds of thousands of

> >> breast implants that have been in place for years

> >> without any symptoms might show similar

> >> findings--perhaps from depolymerization or some other

> >> change?

> >>

> >> This is a rhetorical question to which I do not know

> >> the answer. Axel Vargas, M.D. Instituto Saint Michel

> >> Carrera 7a, No. 60-20 Bogot·, Columbia [sic]. The two

> >> prostheses were different brands, both well-known,

> >> widely-used, and made in the USA. "

> >>

> >> This sounds like something Dr. Blais has been saying

> >> for years, that is, that there were problems with

> >> these devices many years ago...but it was kept hidden

> >> by the manufacturers and unknown to anyone not reading

> >> the learned journals. Thank you for helping us to

> >> expose the truth.

> >>

> >> Love as always........

> >>

> >> Lea

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

by

> >> licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed

> >> health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >>

> >> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead

> you.

> >> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how

to

> live

> >> a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> >> two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >>

> >>

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Another article on the dangers of silicone...love...Lea

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An interesting article from 1979!!!> >>> >> PLEASE POST> >>> >> Dearest Ilena:> >>> >> Look what I found today. They knew this 22 years ago!> >>> >> This letter to the editor, "Shedding of Silicone> >> Particles from Inflated Breast Implants," in Plastic & > >> Reconstructive Surgery, by Dr. A. Vargas, was> >> published in August 1979. It follows. "Sir: Seven> >> years ago we placed an inflatable prosthesis in a> >> small breast. There was never any problem, but> >> recently we exchanged the prosthesis because the> >> patient wanted a larger size. On removal, we found> >> spots like collections of sand on the surface of the> >> implant; in some ways they resembled the spots made by> >> fungi on slides stored in a humid place. The fibrous> >> capsule, though thin, also had areas with the same> >> characteristics. Another patient had a similar> >> implantation of another brand* of inflatable> >> prosthesis 5 years ago; she had had no problems, but> >> wanted it exchanged for a larger size.> >>> >> On removal of the prosthesis we found the same kind of> >> spots on the outer surface of the implant and in some> >> areas of the fibrous capsule. The pathology findings> >> on the two fibrous capsules were the same--lamellae of> >> dense, fibrous tissue forming a capsule, with sticky> >> particles on the inner surface. There was no> >> malignancy. The concretions on the prostheses were> >> examined in the chemistry laboratory at Javeriana> >> University, and at the National University in Bogot.> >> The specimens contained inorganic salts, nitrogen> >> compounds, and an inert substance which, on infra-red> >> spectroscopy, demonstrated the silicon-carbon bond.> >>> >> One wonders how many of the hundreds of thousands of> >> breast implants that have been in place for years> >> without any symptoms might show similar> >> findings--perhaps from depolymerization or some other> >> change?> >>> >> This is a rhetorical question to which I do not know> >> the answer. Axel Vargas, M.D. Instituto Saint Michel> >> Carrera 7a, No. 60-20 Bogot·, Columbia [sic]. The two> >> prostheses were different brands, both well-known,> >> widely-used, and made in the USA."> >>> >> This sounds like something Dr. Blais has been saying> >> for years, that is, that there were problems with> >> these devices many years ago...but it was kept hidden> >> by the manufacturers and unknown to anyone not reading> >> the learned journals. Thank you for helping us to> >> expose the truth.> >>> >> Love as always........> >>> >> Lea> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by> >> licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed> >> health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.> >>> >> "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead> you.> >> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to> live> >> a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing,> >> two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> >>> >>