Guest guest Posted February 13, 2003 Report Share Posted February 13, 2003 Hi Marcie How lucky for you! I would definitely try it. I use SBX which is a soil based organism too. It's been a big boost to my program. Start slow though because you can get some die off from it. > Just had someone send me a bottle of Primal Defense and claims it is the > best of the best as far as probiotics. Claims it cured his candida, gum > disease, and IBS. Anyone else had good results with this? > > Everyone have a wonderful Valentine's Day! > Marcie : ) > > " Your biography becomes your biology. " - Caroline Myss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 What is the difference between teh primal defense and the fungal defense. I am taking the primal def. now before surgery because i had been on some antibiotics. Also can the primal defense give me yeast infection like symptoms because it is killing off the bad bacteria? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 Primal Defense won't give you a yeast infection. It replaces beneficial organisms killed off by a suppressed immune system or medications like antibiotics and steroids. The goal is to get the good organisms to colonize and become self maintaining. . . This takes time! Eating naturally fermented foods can help immensely! Hugs, Rogene --- auw_bree <auw_bree@...> wrote: > What is the difference between teh primal defense > and the fungal > defense. I am taking the primal def. now before > surgery because i had > been on some antibiotics. Also can the primal > defense give me yeast > infection like symptoms because it is killing off > the bad bacteria? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 Primal defense is a milder product. It contains hso bacteria from the soil and all kinds of acidolphalus--sorry can't spell! Fungal defense contains oregano, and olive leaf too and in my opinion, much stronger. Those herbs kill alot of pathogens too. As far as giving you a yeast infection as a herx symptom, I think it is possible because it happens to me. I know it is crazy, but whenever I hit these kind of supplements hard, I tend to get more vaginal yeast. And it would make sense, because I have seen other symptoms increase as I experienced a herx. However, many people experience just the opposite- -just a lessening of all their symptoms. We are all different. Both of those products are good. ARe you experiencing yeastinfection like symptoms? Be very careful with your diet---reallycutting out sugar, starches, grains. That should help too. When is your sugery scheduled? Hugs, kathy > What is the difference between teh primal defense and the fungal > defense. I am taking the primal def. now before surgery because i had > been on some antibiotics. Also can the primal defense give me yeast > infection like symptoms because it is killing off the bad bacteria? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 --- Thank you all for the information. I am gonna buy the fungal defense for after the explant then. Its this friday, im really starting to get nervous. Dr Huang has reassured me that they will look fine afterwards, i guess either way if i can get healthy again it will all be worth it. What cleanse should i start with immediately after explant? The fungal defense i know but is there anything else? In , " glory2glory1401 " <glory2glory1401@y...> wrote: > The difference between the two is that Fungal defense kills off > candida and fungal forms within the digestive tract that should not be > there in an overpopulated status. (There will always be some fungus > in there, but the problem gets out of hand when the good guys have > become underpopulated to the point that the bad guys can take over). > Primal Defense is then taken as a way to repopulate your gut with the > good guys. Primal Defense doesn't really kill off the bad bacteria to > my understanding, but only provide the good homeostatic soil organisms. > Patty > > --- In , " auw_bree " <auw_bree@y...> wrote: > > What is the difference between teh primal defense and the fungal > > defense. I am taking the primal def. now before surgery because i > had > > been on some antibiotics. Also can the primal defense give me yeast > > infection like symptoms because it is killing off the bad bacteria? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Start slowly. The fungal defense will be a good way to start with change in diet and plenty of water. You may experience some yucky feeling from the fungal defense as I have, but use it slowly and you will be ok. After you do that you can start Primal defense and a liver cleanse. If you do too much at once it can make you really ill. Best of luck on Friday! You'll be happy with the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 I'd suggest getting your diet in order if you haven't already . . . It's quite an adjustment if you're a convience food junky. Following a healthy diet is HUGE! Hugs, Rogene --- auw_bree <auw_bree@...> wrote: > --- Thank you all for the information. I am gonna > buy the fungal > defense for after the explant then. Its this > friday, im really > starting to get nervous. Dr Huang has reassured me > that they will > look fine afterwards, i guess either way if i can > get healthy again > it will all be worth it. What cleanse should i > start with > immediately after explant? The fungal defense i > know but is there > anything else? > > > > > > > In , " glory2glory1401 " > <glory2glory1401@y...> wrote: > > The difference between the two is that Fungal > defense kills off > > candida and fungal forms within the digestive > tract that should > not be > > there in an overpopulated status. (There will > always be some > fungus > > in there, but the problem gets out of hand when > the good guys have > > become underpopulated to the point that the bad > guys can take > over). > > Primal Defense is then taken as a way to > repopulate your gut with > the > > good guys. Primal Defense doesn't really kill off > the bad > bacteria to > > my understanding, but only provide the good > homeostatic soil > organisms. > > Patty > > > > > > > What is the difference between teh primal > defense and the fungal > > > defense. I am taking the primal def. now before > surgery because > i > > had > > > been on some antibiotics. Also can the primal > defense give me > yeast > > > infection like symptoms because it is killing > off the bad > bacteria? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Hi Anita, I asked this same question a month or so back. Unfortunately Primal Defense contains molasses and a form of dextrose which feed the yeast. I had 4 bottles of the stuff which I am using up and won't replace but I swear by it as a digestive aid. Bee does not recommend it and I'd be willing to bet that she suggests you drink the lemon and sea salt with meals as a digestive aid. (How'd I do Bee?) Shirley G. >From: " Anita P. Wagner " <anita_priscilla@...> >Bee and others, > >Cost aside, what are your thoughts on Primal Defense as a probiotic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Hi Anita, Bee has often recommended the Cabbage Rejuvelac as the best probiotic you can use. One of her past responses to the Primal Defense question: " ==>Primal Defense is very expensive and I think that regular non- dairy acidophilus/lactobacillus is just as effective because 95% of the good bacteria in your intestines is lactobacilli. But cabbage rejuvelac is even better and very inexpensive - the recipe is in my main article or in the recipe files. " I have no idea if you'd be able to travel with it or not but since you'll be with relatives maybe they won't mind you making up a jar or two. Hope you have a wonderful trip! At 05:25 PM 05-04-06, you wrote: >Bee and others, > >Cost aside, what are your thoughts on Primal Defense as a probiotic? > >We are going to visit relatives in Europe next week and wondered about >taking all my supplements etc, esp refrigerated probiotics. However, >Primal Defense is not required to be refrigerated. > >Thanks for your opinion - >~Anita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 > > Bee and others, > > Cost aside, what are your thoughts on Primal Defense as a probiotic? > > We are going to visit relatives in Europe next week and wondered about taking all my supplements etc, esp refrigerated probiotics. However, Primal Defense is not required to be refrigerated. > > Thanks for your opinion - ==>Anita, you are better off just getting a plain non-dairy acidophilus/lactobacillus probiotic at the health store per my article. I wouldn't worry about a week being out of the fridge. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 > > Hi Anita, > > I asked this same question a month or so back. Unfortunately Primal Defense contains molasses and a form of dextrose which feed the yeast. I had 4> bottles of the stuff which I am using up and won't replace but I swear by it as a digestive aid. Bee does not recommend it and I'd be willing to bet that > she suggests you drink the lemon and sea salt with meals as a digestive aid. > > (How'd I do Bee?) ==>Shirley, you are doing great. Good for you. Probiotics like Primal Defense, acidophilus are taken for a different reason than lemon and sea salt drink, i.e. to implant good bacteria in the gut. But yes, lemon and sea salt are great for digestion. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Bee, I realized after I sent that message that I got my GOL products mixed up, I am using up my Omega-zymes which is very different from the Primal Defense. I do have a bottle of the PD hanging around though and as I read the label I see it also contains dextrose and molasses too. That product did not agree with me at all. It was way too strong. (to Anita) Are you currently taking PD and if so do you get any side effects? Shirley G >==>Shirley, you are doing great. Good for you. Probiotics like Primal >Defense, acidophilus are taken for a different reason than lemon and >sea salt drink, i.e. to implant good bacteria in the gut. But yes, >lemon and sea salt are great for digestion. > >Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Hi Shirley - Thanks for your help. No, I had taken it before and I had the formula BEFORE the added molasses etc. I don't remember if the old formula was too strong or not, don't think it made a big difference either way. Thanks everyone for your advice on this - ~Anita Shirley G <chickwbrains@...> wrote: (to Anita) Are you currently taking PD and if so do you get any side effects? Shirley G --------------------------------- Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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