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,

This is just a wild guess . . . But is it possible

that your mouth rashes were related to

taking/eating/drinking products that contained a

considerable amount of silica in some form?

I'm thinking that, if your implants sensitized you to

silica, any additional amounts may have caused a

flare.

I remember my mouth getting very sore after having

impressions made with a silicone compound.

Hugs,

Rogene

--- ktitko <ktitko@...> wrote:

> I can't find it, but someone just recently posted

> about tongue rashes

> abd blotches being one of their symptoms. This was

> something that

> happened to me on a regular basis. I often thought

> it was food

> allergies, and would try to avoid certain foods. But

> honestly it

> happened so frequently that I couldn't avoid it

> altogether. It was so

> ugly and embrrassing, I didn't want anyone to see my

> tongue. It would

> have odd red and white swollen blotchy patches and

> swollen taste buds.

> Since explanting 4 weeks ago I haven't had a single

> outbreak. I just

> added this to my list of implant symptoms, since it

> seems to have been

> from them.

>

>

>

>

>

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Generally these mouth rashes are viruses that are just opportunistic

because of our suppressed immune systems. I know mine was a virus.

Lynda

At 09:49 AM 7/18/2005, you wrote:

>,

>

>This is just a wild guess . . . But is it possible

>that your mouth rashes were related to

>taking/eating/drinking products that contained a

>considerable amount of silica in some form?

>

>I'm thinking that, if your implants sensitized you to

>silica, any additional amounts may have caused a

>flare.

>

>I remember my mouth getting very sore after having

>impressions made with a silicone compound.

>

>Hugs,

>

>Rogene

>

>

>

>--- ktitko <ktitko@...> wrote:

>

> > I can't find it, but someone just recently posted

> > about tongue rashes

> > abd blotches being one of their symptoms. This was

> > something that

> > happened to me on a regular basis. I often thought

> > it was food

> > allergies, and would try to avoid certain foods. But

> > honestly it

> > happened so frequently that I couldn't avoid it

> > altogether. It was so

> > ugly and embrrassing, I didn't want anyone to see my

> > tongue. It would

> > have odd red and white swollen blotchy patches and

> > swollen taste buds.

> > Since explanting 4 weeks ago I haven't had a single

> > outbreak. I just

> > added this to my list of implant symptoms, since it

> > seems to have been

> > from them.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

>licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

>health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

>Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

>a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

>two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

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I know it was always worse with things like Tomatoes and vinegar,

but it was not a constant so I couldn't give it a definitive

alergen. It happened too often I think for it to have been viral,

but anythings possible. I'm just glad it appears to be gone!

> >

> > > I can't find it, but someone just recently posted

> > > about tongue rashes

> > > abd blotches being one of their symptoms. This was

> > > something that

> > > happened to me on a regular basis. I often thought

> > > it was food

> > > allergies, and would try to avoid certain foods. But

> > > honestly it

> > > happened so frequently that I couldn't avoid it

> > > altogether. It was so

> > > ugly and embrrassing, I didn't want anyone to see my

> > > tongue. It would

> > > have odd red and white swollen blotchy patches and

> > > swollen taste buds.

> > > Since explanting 4 weeks ago I haven't had a single

> > > outbreak. I just

> > > added this to my list of implant symptoms, since it

> > > seems to have been

> > > from them.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given by

> >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed

> >health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

how to live

> >a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

ing,

> >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

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I actually had a black tongue when I woke up recently..... turns out it was from taking pepto bis the night before for heart burn! It was scary!!!!

love

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There are actually books you can borrow at the library or purchase that have pictures of tongues and what illness or disease is present to cause different problems. I had a white tongue once but it wasn’t yeast, it was heat in my body but I don’t recall what it was caused by. I was treated by an acupuncturist and it went away quickly. There were some really scary looking tongues in the book she showed me! Definitely interesting to look at if you are interested.

Kenda

I can't find it, but someone just recently posted about tongue rashes

abd blotches being one of their symptoms. This was something that

happened to me on a regular basis. I often thought it was food

allergies, and would try to avoid certain foods. But honestly it

happened so frequently that I couldn't avoid it altogether. It was so

ugly and embrrassing, I didn't want anyone to see my tongue. It would

have odd red and white swollen blotchy patches and swollen taste buds.

Since explanting 4 weeks ago I haven't had a single outbreak. I just

added this to my list of implant symptoms, since it seems to have been

from them.

Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

" Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

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Kenda,

We've been missing you! . . . I hope you had a

wonderful vacation!

This reminds me of when I was seeing an acupucturinst!

I wouldn't recommend this one! . . . She was telling

me about all the herbs, etc. . . Said something about

my tongue and the herbs I needed . . . So, I asked her

if I could see her tongue . . . It was gray-green . .

.. yucky, yucky, yucky . . . ;) I didn't go back to

her.

I have heard that the appearance of the tongue can

tell a lot about one's general health. . . But I've

never had a doctor examine mine. The dentist does take

a good look though!

BTW, the discussion the other day was about cavities

below the gum line . . . The dentist I'm seeing said

that this is where the problems start in three out of

four people. Their teeth are not cleaned properly

allowing bacteria to finding a home below the gumline.

.. . This causes decay and bone errosion. Something

those with a compromised immune system needs to watch

carefully.

Hugs,

Rogene

--- Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@...> wrote:

> There are actually books you can borrow at the

> library or purchase that have

> pictures of tongues and what illness or disease is

> present to cause

> different problems. I had a white tongue once but

> it wasn¹t yeast, it was

> heat in my body but I don¹t recall what it was

> caused by. I was treated by

> an acupuncturist and it went away quickly. There

> were some really scary

> looking tongues in the book she showed me!

> Definitely interesting to look

> at if you are interested.

>

> Kenda

>

>

> > I can't find it, but someone just recently posted

> about tongue rashes

> > abd blotches being one of their symptoms. This was

> something that

> > happened to me on a regular basis. I often thought

> it was food

> > allergies, and would try to avoid certain foods.

> But honestly it

> > happened so frequently that I couldn't avoid it

> altogether. It was so

> > ugly and embrrassing, I didn't want anyone to see

> my tongue. It would

> > have odd red and white swollen blotchy patches and

> swollen taste buds.

> > Since explanting 4 weeks ago I haven't had a

> single outbreak. I just

> > added this to my list of implant symptoms, since

> it seems to have been

> > from them.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> of advice given by licensed

> > health care professionals. Consult your physician

> or licensed health care

> > professional before commencing any medical

> treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> politicians mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> decisions about how to live a

> > happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

> Linus ing, two-time

> > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

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Hi Rogene!

Thank you, we just got back from Seattle Saturday. We’ll be leaving again this Saturday for the mountains in Colorado and then my summer is over and back to real life. Seattle is gorgeous and anyone fortunate to live there is so lucky! I used to live in San Diego and it reminded me so much of it.

A gray-green tongue has got to be bad news, unless it is from some horrible supplement! I always want to treat with a doctor that is healthy and lives what he preaches. That is part of why I like Dr. Leu so much, he emits good health.

Would a Water-Pik help prevent cavities below the gum line? I had braces for 2 years and had them removed last summer. I became an avid Water-Pik user then. Even after completely brushing and flossing, food particles still came out with a Water-Pik. :(

Kenda

Kenda,

We've been missing you! . . . I hope you had a

wonderful vacation!

This reminds me of when I was seeing an acupucturinst!

I wouldn't recommend this one! . . . She was telling

me about all the herbs, etc. . . Said something about

my tongue and the herbs I needed . . . So, I asked her

if I could see her tongue . . . It was gray-green . .

.. yucky, yucky, yucky . . . ;) I didn't go back to

her.

I have heard that the appearance of the tongue can

tell a lot about one's general health. . . But I've

never had a doctor examine mine. The dentist does take

a good look though!

BTW, the discussion the other day was about cavities

below the gum line . . . The dentist I'm seeing said

that this is where the problems start in three out of

four people. Their teeth are not cleaned properly

allowing bacteria to finding a home below the gumline.

.. . This causes decay and bone errosion. Something

those with a compromised immune system needs to watch

carefully.

Hugs,

Rogene

--- Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@...> wrote:

> There are actually books you can borrow at the

> library or purchase that have

> pictures of tongues and what illness or disease is

> present to cause

> different problems. I had a white tongue once but

> it wasn’t yeast, it was

> heat in my body but I don’t recall what it was

> caused by. I was treated by

> an acupuncturist and it went away quickly. There

> were some really scary

> looking tongues in the book she showed me!

> Definitely interesting to look

> at if you are interested.

>

> Kenda

>

>

> > I can't find it, but someone just recently posted

> about tongue rashes

> > abd blotches being one of their symptoms. This was

> something that

> > happened to me on a regular basis. I often thought

> it was food

> > allergies, and would try to avoid certain foods.

> But honestly it

> > happened so frequently that I couldn't avoid it

> altogether. It was so

> > ugly and embrrassing, I didn't want anyone to see

> my tongue. It would

> > have odd red and white swollen blotchy patches and

> swollen taste buds.

> > Since explanting 4 weeks ago I haven't had a

> single outbreak. I just

> > added this to my list of implant symptoms, since

> it seems to have been

> > from them.

> >

> >

> >

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The mountains in Colorado are wonderful this time of year. I live here and

still have not made it very far into them this summer.

Lynda

At 01:49 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote:

>Hi Rogene!

>

>Thank you, we just got back from Seattle Saturday. We'll be leaving again

>this Saturday for the mountains in Colorado and then my summer is over and

>back to real life. Seattle is gorgeous and anyone fortunate to live there

>is so lucky! I used to live in San Diego and it reminded me so much of it.

>

>A gray-green tongue has got to be bad news, unless it is from some

>horrible supplement! I always want to treat with a doctor that is healthy

>and lives what he preaches. That is part of why I like Dr. Leu so much,

>he emits good health.

>

>Would a Water-Pik help prevent cavities below the gum line? I had braces

>for 2 years and had them removed last summer. I became an avid Water-Pik

>user then. Even after completely brushing and flossing, food particles

>still came out with a Water-Pik. :(

>

>Kenda

>

>

>

>Kenda,

>

>We've been missing you! . . . I hope you had a

>wonderful vacation!

>

>This reminds me of when I was seeing an acupucturinst!

>I wouldn't recommend this one! . . . She was telling

>me about all the herbs, etc. . . Said something about

>my tongue and the herbs I needed . . . So, I asked her

>if I could see her tongue . . . It was gray-green . .

>. yucky, yucky, yucky . . . ;) I didn't go back to

>her.

>

>I have heard that the appearance of the tongue can

>tell a lot about one's general health. . . But I've

>never had a doctor examine mine. The dentist does take

>a good look though!

>

>BTW, the discussion the other day was about cavities

>below the gum line . . . The dentist I'm seeing said

>that this is where the problems start in three out of

>four people. Their teeth are not cleaned properly

>allowing bacteria to finding a home below the gumline.

>. . This causes decay and bone errosion. Something

>those with a compromised immune system needs to watch

>carefully.

>

>Hugs,

>

>Rogene

>

>

>--- Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@...> wrote:

>

> > There are actually books you can borrow at the

> > library or purchase that have

> > pictures of tongues and what illness or disease is

> > present to cause

> > different problems. I had a white tongue once but

> > it wasn't yeast, it was

> > heat in my body but I don't recall what it was

> > caused by. I was treated by

> > an acupuncturist and it went away quickly. There

> > were some really scary

> > looking tongues in the book she showed me!

> > Definitely interesting to look

> > at if you are interested.

> >

> > Kenda

> >

> >

> > > I can't find it, but someone just recently posted

> > about tongue rashes

> > > abd blotches being one of their symptoms. This was

> > something that

> > > happened to me on a regular basis. I often thought

> > it was food

> > > allergies, and would try to avoid certain foods.

> > But honestly it

> > > happened so frequently that I couldn't avoid it

> > altogether. It was so

> > > ugly and embrrassing, I didn't want anyone to see

> > my tongue. It would

> > > have odd red and white swollen blotchy patches and

> > swollen taste buds.

> > > Since explanting 4 weeks ago I haven't had a

> > single outbreak. I just

> > > added this to my list of implant symptoms, since

> > it seems to have been

> > > from them.

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

>

>

>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

>licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

>health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

>Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

>a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

>two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

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Lucky you!! We go nearly every summer. What part do you live in? My father lives in Cortez but was born in Durango. We visit Breckenridge.

Kenda

The mountains in Colorado are wonderful this time of year. I live here and

still have not made it very far into them this summer.

Lynda

At 01:49 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote:

>Hi Rogene!

>

>Thank you, we just got back from Seattle Saturday. We'll be leaving again

>this Saturday for the mountains in Colorado and then my summer is over and

>back to real life. Seattle is gorgeous and anyone fortunate to live there

>is so lucky! I used to live in San Diego and it reminded me so much of it.

>

>A gray-green tongue has got to be bad news, unless it is from some

>horrible supplement! I always want to treat with a doctor that is healthy

>and lives what he preaches. That is part of why I like Dr. Leu so much,

>he emits good health.

>

>Would a Water-Pik help prevent cavities below the gum line? I had braces

>for 2 years and had them removed last summer. I became an avid Water-Pik

>user then. Even after completely brushing and flossing, food particles

>still came out with a Water-Pik. :(

>

>Kenda

>

>

>

>Kenda,

>

>We've been missing you! . . . I hope you had a

>wonderful vacation!

>

>This reminds me of when I was seeing an acupucturinst!

>I wouldn't recommend this one! . . . She was telling

>me about all the herbs, etc. . . Said something about

>my tongue and the herbs I needed . . . So, I asked her

>if I could see her tongue . . . It was gray-green . .

>. yucky, yucky, yucky . . . ;) I didn't go back to

>her.

>

>I have heard that the appearance of the tongue can

>tell a lot about one's general health. . . But I've

>never had a doctor examine mine. The dentist does take

>a good look though!

>

>BTW, the discussion the other day was about cavities

>below the gum line . . . The dentist I'm seeing said

>that this is where the problems start in three out of

>four people. Their teeth are not cleaned properly

>allowing bacteria to finding a home below the gumline.

>. . This causes decay and bone errosion. Something

>those with a compromised immune system needs to watch

>carefully.

>

>Hugs,

>

>Rogene

>

>

>--- Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@...> wrote:

>

> > There are actually books you can borrow at the

> > library or purchase that have

> > pictures of tongues and what illness or disease is

> > present to cause

> > different problems. I had a white tongue once but

> > it wasn't yeast, it was

> > heat in my body but I don't recall what it was

> > caused by. I was treated by

> > an acupuncturist and it went away quickly. There

> > were some really scary

> > looking tongues in the book she showed me!

> > Definitely interesting to look

> > at if you are interested.

> >

> > Kenda

> >

> >

> > > I can't find it, but someone just recently posted

> > about tongue rashes

> > > abd blotches being one of their symptoms. This was

> > something that

> > > happened to me on a regular basis. I often thought

> > it was food

> > > allergies, and would try to avoid certain foods.

> > But honestly it

> > > happened so frequently that I couldn't avoid it

> > altogether. It was so

> > > ugly and embrrassing, I didn't want anyone to see

> > my tongue. It would

> > > have odd red and white swollen blotchy patches and

> > swollen taste buds.

> > > Since explanting 4 weeks ago I haven't had a

> > single outbreak. I just

> > > added this to my list of implant symptoms, since

> > it seems to have been

> > > from them.

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

>

>

>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

>licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

>health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

>Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

>a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

>two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

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I live in Greeley, a hop skip and jump from Rocky Mt. National Park. About

1 1/2 hour drive from Estes Park. From there you go up Trail Ridge Rd. to

the highest continuous road (along a series of peaks) in the continental

U.S. Gorgeous.

Lynda

At 02:07 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote:

>Lucky you!! We go nearly every summer. What part do you live in? My

>father lives in Cortez but was born in Durango. We visit Breckenridge.

>

>Kenda

>The mountains in Colorado are wonderful this time of year. I live here and

>still have not made it very far into them this summer.

>

>Lynda

>

>

>At 01:49 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote:

> >Hi Rogene!

> >

> >Thank you, we just got back from Seattle Saturday. We'll be leaving again

> >this Saturday for the mountains in Colorado and then my summer is over and

> >back to real life. Seattle is gorgeous and anyone fortunate to live there

> >is so lucky! I used to live in San Diego and it reminded me so much of it.

> >

> >A gray-green tongue has got to be bad news, unless it is from some

> >horrible supplement! I always want to treat with a doctor that is healthy

> >and lives what he preaches. That is part of why I like Dr. Leu so much,

> >he emits good health.

> >

> >Would a Water-Pik help prevent cavities below the gum line? I had braces

> >for 2 years and had them removed last summer. I became an avid Water-Pik

> >user then. Even after completely brushing and flossing, food particles

> >still came out with a Water-Pik. :(

> >

> >Kenda

> >

> >

> >

> >Kenda,

> >

> >We've been missing you! . . . I hope you had a

> >wonderful vacation!

> >

> >This reminds me of when I was seeing an acupucturinst!

> >I wouldn't recommend this one! . . . She was telling

> >me about all the herbs, etc. . . Said something about

> >my tongue and the herbs I needed . . . So, I asked her

> >if I could see her tongue . . . It was gray-green . .

> >. yucky, yucky, yucky . . . ;) I didn't go back to

> >her.

> >

> >I have heard that the appearance of the tongue can

> >tell a lot about one's general health. . . But I've

> >never had a doctor examine mine. The dentist does take

> >a good look though!

> >

> >BTW, the discussion the other day was about cavities

> >below the gum line . . . The dentist I'm seeing said

> >that this is where the problems start in three out of

> >four people. Their teeth are not cleaned properly

> >allowing bacteria to finding a home below the gumline.

> >. . This causes decay and bone errosion. Something

> >those with a compromised immune system needs to watch

> >carefully.

> >

> >Hugs,

> >

> >Rogene

> >

> >

> >--- Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@...> wrote:

> >

> > > There are actually books you can borrow at the

> > > library or purchase that have

> > > pictures of tongues and what illness or disease is

> > > present to cause

> > > different problems. I had a white tongue once but

> > > it wasn't yeast, it was

> > > heat in my body but I don't recall what it was

> > > caused by. I was treated by

> > > an acupuncturist and it went away quickly. There

> > > were some really scary

> > > looking tongues in the book she showed me!

> > > Definitely interesting to look

> > > at if you are interested.

> > >

> > > Kenda

> > >

> > >

> > > > I can't find it, but someone just recently posted

> > > about tongue rashes

> > > > abd blotches being one of their symptoms. This was

> > > something that

> > > > happened to me on a regular basis. I often thought

> > > it was food

> > > > allergies, and would try to avoid certain foods.

> > > But honestly it

> > > > happened so frequently that I couldn't avoid it

> > > altogether. It was so

> > > > ugly and embrrassing, I didn't want anyone to see

> > > my tongue. It would

> > > > have odd red and white swollen blotchy patches and

> > > swollen taste buds.

> > > > Since explanting 4 weeks ago I haven't had a

> > > single outbreak. I just

> > > > added this to my list of implant symptoms, since

> > > it seems to have been

> > > > from them.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> >

> >

> >

> >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

> >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> >health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

> >a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

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A water pic can help with dental care. . .although

there is some debate about it. In my case, a dentist

joined two crowns together, creating a pocket that

started my problems. The only way to clean the pocket

is with a water pic.

The dentist I recently saw is by far the best I've

ever seen - at least thus far in communicating! We'll

see how it goes when I get the deep cleaning!

Hugs,

Rogene

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Speaking of tongues

Yes they can speak volumes about our health!! NOt only the top but

underneath. The bottom of my tongue shows big purple blotches. One

md. I saw said that they could be connected to lyme disease. I also

saw some scleroderma pics that looked similar. Also, heavy metals

can cause this. My tongue before I went on the gluten free diet was

glossy and red. NOw it is more pink, and the glossy edges have been

replaced with the textured look of a healthy tongue. It is a shame

doctors have gotten away from really looking at what our body is

telling them and only relying on blood tests. The nails, our scent,

our skin, hair, they all tell so much about what is going oninside

of us.

Hugs, kathy

-- In , Rogene S <saxony01@y...> wrote:

> Kenda,

>

> We've been missing you! . . . I hope you had a

> wonderful vacation!

>

> This reminds me of when I was seeing an acupucturinst!

> I wouldn't recommend this one! . . . She was telling

> me about all the herbs, etc. . . Said something about

> my tongue and the herbs I needed . . . So, I asked her

> if I could see her tongue . . . It was gray-green . .

> . yucky, yucky, yucky . . . ;) I didn't go back to

> her.

>

> I have heard that the appearance of the tongue can

> tell a lot about one's general health. . . But I've

> never had a doctor examine mine. The dentist does take

> a good look though!

>

> BTW, the discussion the other day was about cavities

> below the gum line . . . The dentist I'm seeing said

> that this is where the problems start in three out of

> four people. Their teeth are not cleaned properly

> allowing bacteria to finding a home below the gumline.

> . . This causes decay and bone errosion. Something

> those with a compromised immune system needs to watch

> carefully.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

>

> --- Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@c...> wrote:

>

> > There are actually books you can borrow at the

> > library or purchase that have

> > pictures of tongues and what illness or disease is

> > present to cause

> > different problems. I had a white tongue once but

> > it wasn¹t yeast, it was

> > heat in my body but I don¹t recall what it was

> > caused by. I was treated by

> > an acupuncturist and it went away quickly. There

> > were some really scary

> > looking tongues in the book she showed me!

> > Definitely interesting to look

> > at if you are interested.

> >

> > Kenda

> >

> >

> > > I can't find it, but someone just recently posted

> > about tongue rashes

> > > abd blotches being one of their symptoms. This was

> > something that

> > > happened to me on a regular basis. I often thought

> > it was food

> > > allergies, and would try to avoid certain foods.

> > But honestly it

> > > happened so frequently that I couldn't avoid it

> > altogether. It was so

> > > ugly and embrrassing, I didn't want anyone to see

> > my tongue. It would

> > > have odd red and white swollen blotchy patches and

> > swollen taste buds.

> > > Since explanting 4 weeks ago I haven't had a

> > single outbreak. I just

> > > added this to my list of implant symptoms, since

> > it seems to have been

> > > from them.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> > of advice given by licensed

> > > health care professionals. Consult your physician

> > or licensed health care

> > > professional before commencing any medical

> > treatment.

> > >

> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> > politicians mislead you.

> > > Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> > decisions about how to live a

> > > happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

> > Linus ing, two-time

> > > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > >

> > >

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Lynda

How is your weather? are you having a drought too? High temps? I

would love to visit Co. Which places would you recommend? We might

yet come this summer if you don't think it is too hot and dry. I

was hoping to either visit California or Colorado and now the summer

kind of got away fromus and I was thinking it would be too hot.

Hugs, kathy

-- In , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote:

> The mountains in Colorado are wonderful this time of year. I live

here and

> still have not made it very far into them this summer.

>

> Lynda

>

>

> At 01:49 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote:

> >Hi Rogene!

> >

> >Thank you, we just got back from Seattle Saturday. We'll be

leaving again

> >this Saturday for the mountains in Colorado and then my summer is

over and

> >back to real life. Seattle is gorgeous and anyone fortunate to

live there

> >is so lucky! I used to live in San Diego and it reminded me so

much of it.

> >

> >A gray-green tongue has got to be bad news, unless it is from

some

> >horrible supplement! I always want to treat with a doctor that

is healthy

> >and lives what he preaches. That is part of why I like Dr. Leu

so much,

> >he emits good health.

> >

> >Would a Water-Pik help prevent cavities below the gum line? I

had braces

> >for 2 years and had them removed last summer. I became an avid

Water-Pik

> >user then. Even after completely brushing and flossing, food

particles

> >still came out with a Water-Pik. :(

> >

> >Kenda

> >

> >

> >

> >Kenda,

> >

> >We've been missing you! . . . I hope you had a

> >wonderful vacation!

> >

> >This reminds me of when I was seeing an acupucturinst!

> >I wouldn't recommend this one! . . . She was telling

> >me about all the herbs, etc. . . Said something about

> >my tongue and the herbs I needed . . . So, I asked her

> >if I could see her tongue . . . It was gray-green . .

> >. yucky, yucky, yucky . . . ;) I didn't go back to

> >her.

> >

> >I have heard that the appearance of the tongue can

> >tell a lot about one's general health. . . But I've

> >never had a doctor examine mine. The dentist does take

> >a good look though!

> >

> >BTW, the discussion the other day was about cavities

> >below the gum line . . . The dentist I'm seeing said

> >that this is where the problems start in three out of

> >four people. Their teeth are not cleaned properly

> >allowing bacteria to finding a home below the gumline.

> >. . This causes decay and bone errosion. Something

> >those with a compromised immune system needs to watch

> >carefully.

> >

> >Hugs,

> >

> >Rogene

> >

> >

> >--- Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@c...> wrote:

> >

> > > There are actually books you can borrow at the

> > > library or purchase that have

> > > pictures of tongues and what illness or disease is

> > > present to cause

> > > different problems. I had a white tongue once but

> > > it wasn't yeast, it was

> > > heat in my body but I don't recall what it was

> > > caused by. I was treated by

> > > an acupuncturist and it went away quickly. There

> > > were some really scary

> > > looking tongues in the book she showed me!

> > > Definitely interesting to look

> > > at if you are interested.

> > >

> > > Kenda

> > >

> > >

> > > > I can't find it, but someone just recently posted

> > > about tongue rashes

> > > > abd blotches being one of their symptoms. This was

> > > something that

> > > > happened to me on a regular basis. I often thought

> > > it was food

> > > > allergies, and would try to avoid certain foods.

> > > But honestly it

> > > > happened so frequently that I couldn't avoid it

> > > altogether. It was so

> > > > ugly and embrrassing, I didn't want anyone to see

> > > my tongue. It would

> > > > have odd red and white swollen blotchy patches and

> > > swollen taste buds.

> > > > Since explanting 4 weeks ago I haven't had a

> > > single outbreak. I just

> > > > added this to my list of implant symptoms, since

> > > it seems to have been

> > > > from them.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> >

> >

> >

> >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given by

> >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed

> >health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

how to live

> >a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

ing,

> >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

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Kathy,

How are you doing on that gluten free diet?

I want to get on that, but we have so much going on all the time, I

find it too hard to figure out what I shouldn't eat!

Patty

> >

> > > There are actually books you can borrow at the

> > > library or purchase that have

> > > pictures of tongues and what illness or disease is

> > > present to cause

> > > different problems. I had a white tongue once but

> > > it wasn¹t yeast, it was

> > > heat in my body but I don¹t recall what it was

> > > caused by. I was treated by

> > > an acupuncturist and it went away quickly. There

> > > were some really scary

> > > looking tongues in the book she showed me!

> > > Definitely interesting to look

> > > at if you are interested.

> > >

> > > Kenda

> > >

> > >

> > > > I can't find it, but someone just recently posted

> > > about tongue rashes

> > > > abd blotches being one of their symptoms. This was

> > > something that

> > > > happened to me on a regular basis. I often thought

> > > it was food

> > > > allergies, and would try to avoid certain foods.

> > > But honestly it

> > > > happened so frequently that I couldn't avoid it

> > > altogether. It was so

> > > > ugly and embrrassing, I didn't want anyone to see

> > > my tongue. It would

> > > > have odd red and white swollen blotchy patches and

> > > swollen taste buds.

> > > > Since explanting 4 weeks ago I haven't had a

> > > single outbreak. I just

> > > > added this to my list of implant symptoms, since

> > > it seems to have been

> > > > from them.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> > > of advice given by licensed

> > > > health care professionals. Consult your physician

> > > or licensed health care

> > > > professional before commencing any medical

> > > treatment.

> > > >

> > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> > > politicians mislead you.

> > > > Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> > > decisions about how to live a

> > > > happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

> > > Linus ing, two-time

> > > > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > >

> > > >

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Hi,

No drought anymore, but hot and dry right now. 100 degrees currently in

Greeley. Any mountain towns, but my son lives in S. CO in Crestone (near

the Sangre de Cristo range, and it is at 8000 feet, a town of 600

people. Depends on whether you want peace and quiet, to hike and roam the

mountains, or you like touristy stuff. I would stick to the mountains for

cooler temps.

Lynda

At 02:31 PM 7/19/2005, you wrote:

>-

>

>Lynda

>How is your weather? are you having a drought too? High temps? I

>would love to visit Co. Which places would you recommend? We might

>yet come this summer if you don't think it is too hot and dry. I

>was hoping to either visit California or Colorado and now the summer

>kind of got away fromus and I was thinking it would be too hot.

>Hugs, kathy

>

>

>

>

>

>

>-- In , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote:

> > The mountains in Colorado are wonderful this time of year. I live

>here and

> > still have not made it very far into them this summer.

> >

> > Lynda

> >

> >

> > At 01:49 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote:

> > >Hi Rogene!

> > >

> > >Thank you, we just got back from Seattle Saturday. We'll be

>leaving again

> > >this Saturday for the mountains in Colorado and then my summer is

>over and

> > >back to real life. Seattle is gorgeous and anyone fortunate to

>live there

> > >is so lucky! I used to live in San Diego and it reminded me so

>much of it.

> > >

> > >A gray-green tongue has got to be bad news, unless it is from

>some

> > >horrible supplement! I always want to treat with a doctor that

>is healthy

> > >and lives what he preaches. That is part of why I like Dr. Leu

>so much,

> > >he emits good health.

> > >

> > >Would a Water-Pik help prevent cavities below the gum line? I

>had braces

> > >for 2 years and had them removed last summer. I became an avid

>Water-Pik

> > >user then. Even after completely brushing and flossing, food

>particles

> > >still came out with a Water-Pik. :(

> > >

> > >Kenda

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >Kenda,

> > >

> > >We've been missing you! . . . I hope you had a

> > >wonderful vacation!

> > >

> > >This reminds me of when I was seeing an acupucturinst!

> > >I wouldn't recommend this one! . . . She was telling

> > >me about all the herbs, etc. . . Said something about

> > >my tongue and the herbs I needed . . . So, I asked her

> > >if I could see her tongue . . . It was gray-green . .

> > >. yucky, yucky, yucky . . . ;) I didn't go back to

> > >her.

> > >

> > >I have heard that the appearance of the tongue can

> > >tell a lot about one's general health. . . But I've

> > >never had a doctor examine mine. The dentist does take

> > >a good look though!

> > >

> > >BTW, the discussion the other day was about cavities

> > >below the gum line . . . The dentist I'm seeing said

> > >that this is where the problems start in three out of

> > >four people. Their teeth are not cleaned properly

> > >allowing bacteria to finding a home below the gumline.

> > >. . This causes decay and bone errosion. Something

> > >those with a compromised immune system needs to watch

> > >carefully.

> > >

> > >Hugs,

> > >

> > >Rogene

> > >

> > >

> > >--- Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@c...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > There are actually books you can borrow at the

> > > > library or purchase that have

> > > > pictures of tongues and what illness or disease is

> > > > present to cause

> > > > different problems. I had a white tongue once but

> > > > it wasn't yeast, it was

> > > > heat in my body but I don't recall what it was

> > > > caused by. I was treated by

> > > > an acupuncturist and it went away quickly. There

> > > > were some really scary

> > > > looking tongues in the book she showed me!

> > > > Definitely interesting to look

> > > > at if you are interested.

> > > >

> > > > Kenda

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > I can't find it, but someone just recently posted

> > > > about tongue rashes

> > > > > abd blotches being one of their symptoms. This was

> > > > something that

> > > > > happened to me on a regular basis. I often thought

> > > > it was food

> > > > > allergies, and would try to avoid certain foods.

> > > > But honestly it

> > > > > happened so frequently that I couldn't avoid it

> > > > altogether. It was so

> > > > > ugly and embrrassing, I didn't want anyone to see

> > > > my tongue. It would

> > > > > have odd red and white swollen blotchy patches and

> > > > swollen taste buds.

> > > > > Since explanting 4 weeks ago I haven't had a

> > > > single outbreak. I just

> > > > > added this to my list of implant symptoms, since

> > > > it seems to have been

> > > > > from them.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

>given by

> > >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

>licensed

> > >health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> > >

> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

>mislead you.

> > >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

>how to live

> > >a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

>ing,

> > >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > >

> > >

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It is hard for me to stick to the diet as well as I should.

Especially when I eat out as I have found that whenever I actually

have the waitress check and see if what I thought was gluten free

actually is, she comes back most of the time says it isn't. But I

know that it is has to be a very minor amount. The major

improvement is still in the headache area, and that is nice. I wish

I had more improvements, but it may be that they are very subtle and

it will become more apparent as time goes on. Have you started your

watermelon fast yet? I really think that is something that sounds

good to me right now! I think it is because I have had too much

meat lately. I was really just loving salads, etc. then all of a

sudden I gto really sick of them. And we had a couple of picnics

with potato salad, baked beans, chips, etc. I know that is pretty

junky and now I just kind of want it out of my system! It sure is

hard to eat healthy at picnics, parties, etc!

Hugs, kathy

-- In , " glory2glory1401 "

<glory2glory1401@y...> wrote:

> Kathy,

> How are you doing on that gluten free diet?

>

> I want to get on that, but we have so much going on all the time,

I

> find it too hard to figure out what I shouldn't eat!

> Patty

>

>

> > >

> > > > There are actually books you can borrow at the

> > > > library or purchase that have

> > > > pictures of tongues and what illness or disease is

> > > > present to cause

> > > > different problems. I had a white tongue once but

> > > > it wasn¹t yeast, it was

> > > > heat in my body but I don¹t recall what it was

> > > > caused by. I was treated by

> > > > an acupuncturist and it went away quickly. There

> > > > were some really scary

> > > > looking tongues in the book she showed me!

> > > > Definitely interesting to look

> > > > at if you are interested.

> > > >

> > > > Kenda

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > I can't find it, but someone just recently posted

> > > > about tongue rashes

> > > > > abd blotches being one of their symptoms. This was

> > > > something that

> > > > > happened to me on a regular basis. I often thought

> > > > it was food

> > > > > allergies, and would try to avoid certain foods.

> > > > But honestly it

> > > > > happened so frequently that I couldn't avoid it

> > > > altogether. It was so

> > > > > ugly and embrrassing, I didn't want anyone to see

> > > > my tongue. It would

> > > > > have odd red and white swollen blotchy patches and

> > > > swollen taste buds.

> > > > > Since explanting 4 weeks ago I haven't had a

> > > > single outbreak. I just

> > > > > added this to my list of implant symptoms, since

> > > > it seems to have been

> > > > > from them.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> > > > of advice given by licensed

> > > > > health care professionals. Consult your physician

> > > > or licensed health care

> > > > > professional before commencing any medical

> > > > treatment.

> > > > >

> > > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> > > > politicians mislead you.

> > > > > Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> > > > decisions about how to live a

> > > > > happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

> > > > Linus ing, two-time

> > > > > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Kathy,

I was going to start my watermelon fast today, but then halfway

through the morning I realized that we will be celebrating a

birthday in the family this week! Doesn't do me any good to start a

detox diet and then break it with razzleberry pie! It's definitely

hard to eat right when everyone is celebrating something.

I'll be starting probably this weekend or Monday.

Summer is a great time to do a detox diet with veggies and fruits,

because there are so many yummy things in season. One of my

favorites is watermelon! If you try it, let me know how it goes.

You should do okay with watermelon...some people who are watching

their glycemic index might want to do plain (no dressing) salads

instead, but it is very cleansing and has all that glutathione, and

of course, high water content too.

Hugs,

Patty

> > > >

> > > > > There are actually books you can borrow at the

> > > > > library or purchase that have

> > > > > pictures of tongues and what illness or disease is

> > > > > present to cause

> > > > > different problems. I had a white tongue once but

> > > > > it wasn¹t yeast, it was

> > > > > heat in my body but I don¹t recall what it was

> > > > > caused by. I was treated by

> > > > > an acupuncturist and it went away quickly. There

> > > > > were some really scary

> > > > > looking tongues in the book she showed me!

> > > > > Definitely interesting to look

> > > > > at if you are interested.

> > > > >

> > > > > Kenda

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > I can't find it, but someone just recently posted

> > > > > about tongue rashes

> > > > > > abd blotches being one of their symptoms. This was

> > > > > something that

> > > > > > happened to me on a regular basis. I often thought

> > > > > it was food

> > > > > > allergies, and would try to avoid certain foods.

> > > > > But honestly it

> > > > > > happened so frequently that I couldn't avoid it

> > > > > altogether. It was so

> > > > > > ugly and embrrassing, I didn't want anyone to see

> > > > > my tongue. It would

> > > > > > have odd red and white swollen blotchy patches and

> > > > > swollen taste buds.

> > > > > > Since explanting 4 weeks ago I haven't had a

> > > > > single outbreak. I just

> > > > > > added this to my list of implant symptoms, since

> > > > > it seems to have been

> > > > > > from them.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> > > > > of advice given by licensed

> > > > > > health care professionals. Consult your physician

> > > > > or licensed health care

> > > > > > professional before commencing any medical

> > > > > treatment.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> > > > > politicians mislead you.

> > > > > > Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> > > > > decisions about how to live a

> > > > > > happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

> > > > > Linus ing, two-time

> > > > > > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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