Re: Patty: Lightheadedness and weird feeling in head sometimes...

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I am not in Vegas yet but should be there very soon.

Thanks for the positive words. I wonder if what you

are calling brain fog is the same thing I have. I

definitely have a problem with cognitive function that

varies day by day, but, what I also have is this

" weird " feeling in my head that is very hard to

describe. It is like I am lightheaded but a little

different. I usually have visual disturbances with it

when it is bad. I can not seem to get both of my eyes

to focus together. My vision is not blurry but off

some how.

The intensity of the problem also coincides with my

peripheral neuropathy that is pure misery on bad days.

When I look back at how much better I am than 21/2

years ago I feel like I should be happy. But, it just

seems like I have been sick for so long. I want to be

" whole " again for my families sake. I try very hard

to do everything I should do but never feel good

while doing whatever it is.

I need to get an infrared sauna asap. The regular

sauna has helped some but it seems others have had

better results with infrared saunas.

Hope other people are doing better since explant.

GT

--- glory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401@...> wrote:

> Hi GT!

> Yes, Kathy is right...I had the nasty brain fog for

> quite some time,

> and it was my most frustrating symptom, and

> definitely the last to

> leave. It is gone for the most part, but sometimes

> (rarely) comes

> back. I notice that it creeps up on my primarily

> right before my

> monthly cycle begins, but not every month. So, I

> tend to believe it

> is related to hormonal issues, but there have been

> times when I

> wondered if it was related to undiagnosed food

> allergies as well.

> I've never been able to figure it out.

>

> The good news is that it finally dissipated to the

> point of me not

> being aware of it anymore. When it does come again,

> it is really

> noticeable and frustrating! But I live a totally

> normal life again,

> the brain fog is really a thing of the past, and I

> consider it gone.

> It took a loooong time--probablyl close to 4 years

> for resolution to

> this point. Exercise definitely helps alot.

>

> I don't know if that makes you feel better or

> not...healing seems to

> take so long, and I can totally relate to your

> frustration with the

> thing. I broke down in tears more than once about

> my brain fog

> hanging on and on and on.

>

> In the final analysis, I believe it is my detoxing

> and healthy diet

> that keeps it gone for the most part. Stick to your

> detoxing

> routines.

>

> By the way, are you in Vegas yet?

>

> Take care,

> Patty

>

> > > > Has anyone else had it take a long time for

> the

> > > > lightheadedness/dizziness to resolve after

> > > explantation? My implants

> > > > were removed 21/2 years ago and I still have

> an

> > > annoying feeling in

> > > my

> > > > head. It is significantly better but

> definately

> > > not gone. If anyone

> > > > had it for several years after implant and it

> > > eventually resolved I

> > > > would love to know. If it took a long time to

> go

> > > away completely

> > > > please let me o ow how long it took.

> > > >

> > > > By the way, I still have peripheral neuropathy

> too

> > > and I think the

> > > two

> > > > are somehow related.

> > > >

> > > > GT

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> ____________________________________________________

>

> > Sports

> > Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy

> Football

> > http://football.fantasysports.

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

GT,

I am pretty sure we are talking about the same thing. It is really

hard to describe the brain fog. I've tried so many times, and I

think I've used several different ways to help others understand

what it is, because brain fog just doesn't really describe it

completely. I've suggested it was like looking at the world

through a glass bottle (that was the visual component of it--I had

the vision disturbances too), feeling like I am almost drunk even

though I didn't drink any alcohol, feeling like my brain was full of

jello, or cobwebbs, or cotton balls because I couldn't think

straight, (that was the cognitive part of it.) It's like the

thinking process just slows way down. Thoughts are harder to get

through...words come out of the mouth different than when they leave

the brain, like using " garage " when I meant the refrigerator. Or

just completing sentences gets frustrating because the thoughts are

delayed or something. I felt spaced out, almost high, but not

really. I felt like there was a chemical imbalance in my brain, or

something making it inflammed and bothered, although there wasn't

any real pain. However, my neck and the back of my head near the

base of my neck were so tender and achey all of the time! When

laying down on my pillow at night, if I wanted to turn over, I could

barely lift my head off the pillow to flip to the other side. It

was so painful!

All of that is gone now. I only get it on very, very rare occasions.

Does that describe what you are feeling? I know Kathy said hers was

gone right away, and that is a true blessing because mine took so

long. I know there are othes who had it go away within a year or

so. I wish we knew what makes it leave...but I do think that

keeping the oxygen flowing to the brain through exercise is

important.

Hope this is enlightening!

Patty

> > > > > Has anyone else had it take a long time for

> > the

> > > > > lightheadedness/dizziness to resolve after

> > > > explantation? My implants

> > > > > were removed 21/2 years ago and I still have

> > an

> > > > annoying feeling in

> > > > my

> > > > > head. It is significantly better but

> > definately

> > > > not gone. If anyone

> > > > > had it for several years after implant and it

> > > > eventually resolved I

> > > > > would love to know. If it took a long time to

> > go

> > > > away completely

> > > > > please let me o ow how long it took.

> > > > >

> > > > > By the way, I still have peripheral neuropathy

> > too

> > > > and I think the

> > > > two

> > > > > are somehow related.

> > > > >

> > > > > GT

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > ____________________________________________________

> >

> > > Sports

> > > Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy

> > Football

> > > http://football.fantasysports.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Your brain fog sounds like liver congestion to me. Prior to my pancreatitis attack three years ago, I had the same cognitive symptoms you are talking about and the painful base of the neck as well. I would do some really serious liver work, if I was you. When I start to feel spacey, I know my liver is acting up again. I have even had blood work done at those times to see if I a right and I always am. I always felt like such a nut because I would say wrong words, like refrigerator and garage. I thought for sure it was Alzheimer’s or some other disease but it’s not. You might do some lab work to see what pathways are involved so you can be sure you are taking the right supplements. My body doesn’t make glutathione at all, which is the root of all of my health problems.

Kenda

GT,

I am pretty sure we are talking about the same thing. It is really

hard to describe the brain fog. I've tried so many times, and I

think I've used several different ways to help others understand

what it is, because brain fog just doesn't really describe it

completely. I've suggested it was like looking at the world

through a glass bottle (that was the visual component of it--I had

the vision disturbances too), feeling like I am almost drunk even

though I didn't drink any alcohol, feeling like my brain was full of

jello, or cobwebbs, or cotton balls because I couldn't think

straight, (that was the cognitive part of it.) It's like the

thinking process just slows way down. Thoughts are harder to get

through...words come out of the mouth different than when they leave

the brain, like using " garage " when I meant the refrigerator. Or

just completing sentences gets frustrating because the thoughts are

delayed or something. I felt spaced out, almost high, but not

really. I felt like there was a chemical imbalance in my brain, or

something making it inflammed and bothered, although there wasn't

any real pain. However, my neck and the back of my head near the

base of my neck were so tender and achey all of the time! When

laying down on my pillow at night, if I wanted to turn over, I could

barely lift my head off the pillow to flip to the other side. It

was so painful!

All of that is gone now. I only get it on very, very rare occasions.

Does that describe what you are feeling? I know Kathy said hers was

gone right away, and that is a true blessing because mine took so

long. I know there are othes who had it go away within a year or

so. I wish we knew what makes it leave...but I do think that

keeping the oxygen flowing to the brain through exercise is

important.

Hope this is enlightening!

Patty

> > > > > Has anyone else had it take a long time for

> > the

> > > > > lightheadedness/dizziness to resolve after

> > > > explantation? My implants

> > > > > were removed 21/2 years ago and I still have

> > an

> > > > annoying feeling in

> > > > my

> > > > > head. It is significantly better but

> > definately

> > > > not gone. If anyone

> > > > > had it for several years after implant and it

> > > > eventually resolved I

> > > > > would love to know. If it took a long time to

> > go

> > > > away completely

> > > > > please let me o ow how long it took.

> > > > >

> > > > > By the way, I still have peripheral neuropathy

> > too

> > > > and I think the

> > > > two

> > > > > are somehow related.

> > > > >

> > > > > GT

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > ____________________________________________________

> >

> > > Sports

> > > Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy

> > Football

> > > http://football.fantasysports.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, maybe liver congestion, but also neuro-toxicity of the brain, as my

triple-headed SPECT scan clearly showed.

Lynda

At 07:28 AM 7/6/2005, you wrote:

>Your brain fog sounds like liver congestion to me. Prior to my

>pancreatitis attack three years ago, I had the same cognitive symptoms you

>are talking about and the painful base of the neck as well. I would do

>some really serious liver work, if I was you. When I start to feel

>spacey, I know my liver is acting up again. I have even had blood work

>done at those times to see if I a right and I always am. I always felt

>like such a nut because I would say wrong words, like refrigerator and

>garage. I thought for sure it was Alzheimer's or some other disease but

>it's not. You might do some lab work to see what pathways are involved so

>you can be sure you are taking the right supplements. My body doesn't

>make glutathione at all, which is the root of all of my health problems.

>

>Kenda

>

>

>GT,

>I am pretty sure we are talking about the same thing. It is really

>hard to describe the brain fog. I've tried so many times, and I

>think I've used several different ways to help others understand

>what it is, because brain fog just doesn't really describe it

>completely. I've suggested it was like looking at the world

>through a glass bottle (that was the visual component of it--I had

>the vision disturbances too), feeling like I am almost drunk even

>though I didn't drink any alcohol, feeling like my brain was full of

>jello, or cobwebbs, or cotton balls because I couldn't think

>straight, (that was the cognitive part of it.) It's like the

>thinking process just slows way down. Thoughts are harder to get

>through...words come out of the mouth different than when they leave

>the brain, like using " garage " when I meant the refrigerator. Or

>just completing sentences gets frustrating because the thoughts are

>delayed or something. I felt spaced out, almost high, but not

>really. I felt like there was a chemical imbalance in my brain, or

>something making it inflammed and bothered, although there wasn't

>any real pain. However, my neck and the back of my head near the

>base of my neck were so tender and achey all of the time! When

>laying down on my pillow at night, if I wanted to turn over, I could

>barely lift my head off the pillow to flip to the other side. It

>was so painful!

>

>All of that is gone now. I only get it on very, very rare occasions.

>

>Does that describe what you are feeling? I know Kathy said hers was

>gone right away, and that is a true blessing because mine took so

>long. I know there are othes who had it go away within a year or

>so. I wish we knew what makes it leave...but I do think that

>keeping the oxygen flowing to the brain through exercise is

>important.

>

>Hope this is enlightening!

>Patty

>

>

>

>

> > > > > > Has anyone else had it take a long time for

> > > the

> > > > > > lightheadedness/dizziness to resolve after

> > > > > explantation? My implants

> > > > > > were removed 21/2 years ago and I still have

> > > an

> > > > > annoying feeling in

> > > > > my

> > > > > > head. It is significantly better but

> > > definately

> > > > > not gone. If anyone

> > > > > > had it for several years after implant and it

> > > > > eventually resolved I

> > > > > > would love to know. If it took a long time to

> > > go

> > > > > away completely

> > > > > > please let me o ow how long it took.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > By the way, I still have peripheral neuropathy

> > > too

> > > > > and I think the

> > > > > two

> > > > > > are somehow related.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > GT

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > ____________________________________________________

> > >

> > > > Sports

> > > > Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy

> > > Football

> > > > http://football.fantasysports.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

Dearest Friends:

When I first started taking calls from the sick women back in the early

nineties this was the number one complaint. The women were having visual

problems and some were seeing bright colours in the corner of their eyes. I

had never experienced this until later, mine was just brain fog at that

point. Sometimes, I wondered if the women were just imagining that they

could see bright colours, then it started to happen to me, but only in my

right eye, I would close my eyes, but it was still there. My doctor sent me

to an eye specialist and he said that I had Glaucoma in my right eye. Last

year when I went back to the specialist he said that it had gone! At that

time I was on Decadron and it might have caused the eye problems. The brain

fog was the most frightening experience that I had ever had. It was like

walking in a deep fog....this too has gone! The doctors called it

inflammation of the brain.

It has been 12 years since explant for me, but I guess it takes a long time

to clear our systems from this garbage.

Much love...Lea

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`

Re: Re: Patty: Lightheadedness and weird feeling in

head sometimes...

>

> Hi,

>

> I am not in Vegas yet but should be there very soon.

>

>

> Thanks for the positive words. I wonder if what you

> are calling brain fog is the same thing I have. I

> definitely have a problem with cognitive function that

> varies day by day, but, what I also have is this

> " weird " feeling in my head that is very hard to

> describe. It is like I am lightheaded but a little

> different. I usually have visual disturbances with it

> when it is bad. I can not seem to get both of my eyes

> to focus together. My vision is not blurry but off

> some how.

>

> The intensity of the problem also coincides with my

> peripheral neuropathy that is pure misery on bad days.

>

> When I look back at how much better I am than 21/2

> years ago I feel like I should be happy. But, it just

> seems like I have been sick for so long. I want to be

> " whole " again for my families sake. I try very hard

> to do everything I should do but never feel good

> while doing whatever it is.

>

> I need to get an infrared sauna asap. The regular

> sauna has helped some but it seems others have had

> better results with infrared saunas.

>

> Hope other people are doing better since explant.

>

> GT

> --- glory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401@...> wrote:

>

>> Hi GT!

>> Yes, Kathy is right...I had the nasty brain fog for

>> quite some time,

>> and it was my most frustrating symptom, and

>> definitely the last to

>> leave. It is gone for the most part, but sometimes

>> (rarely) comes

>> back. I notice that it creeps up on my primarily

>> right before my

>> monthly cycle begins, but not every month. So, I

>> tend to believe it

>> is related to hormonal issues, but there have been

>> times when I

>> wondered if it was related to undiagnosed food

>> allergies as well.

>> I've never been able to figure it out.

>>

>> The good news is that it finally dissipated to the

>> point of me not

>> being aware of it anymore. When it does come again,

>> it is really

>> noticeable and frustrating! But I live a totally

>> normal life again,

>> the brain fog is really a thing of the past, and I

>> consider it gone.

>> It took a loooong time--probablyl close to 4 years

>> for resolution to

>> this point. Exercise definitely helps alot.

>>

>> I don't know if that makes you feel better or

>> not...healing seems to

>> take so long, and I can totally relate to your

>> frustration with the

>> thing. I broke down in tears more than once about

>> my brain fog

>> hanging on and on and on.

>>

>> In the final analysis, I believe it is my detoxing

>> and healthy diet

>> that keeps it gone for the most part. Stick to your

>> detoxing

>> routines.

>>

>> By the way, are you in Vegas yet?

>>

>> Take care,

>> Patty

>>

>> > > > Has anyone else had it take a long time for

>> the

>> > > > lightheadedness/dizziness to resolve after

>> > > explantation? My implants

>> > > > were removed 21/2 years ago and I still have

>> an

>> > > annoying feeling in

>> > > my

>> > > > head. It is significantly better but

>> definately

>> > > not gone. If anyone

>> > > > had it for several years after implant and it

>> > > eventually resolved I

>> > > > would love to know. If it took a long time to

>> go

>> > > away completely

>> > > > please let me o ow how long it took.

>> > > >

>> > > > By the way, I still have peripheral neuropathy

>> too

>> > > and I think the

>> > > two

>> > > > are somehow related.

>> > > >

>> > > > GT

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> ____________________________________________________

>>

>> > Sports

>> > Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy

>> Football

>> > http://football.fantasysports.

>>

>>

>>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Kenda,

Thank you for that confirmation!!! I have always thought my liver

was involved with the brain fog. I knew because of the frequency

with which it came around my monthly cycle. The liver has the job

of breaking down our hormones, and also dealing with the fats in our

diet, and so I was thinking food allergies as well.

I do the coffee enemas as an effort to keep my liver clear; however,

the coffee enemas increase glutathione requirements, and I have not

been paying attention to making sure I am getting enough produce or

supplements in my diet to address this need.

Maybe I have this same deficiency with glutathione....I will need to

look into this. You are much better at going to the doctor than I

am!

Thanks Kenda, Your info is much appreciated. I am really glad you

didn't get implants....your life would have been a mess! I got a

call this morning from a girl who has had her implants only one

month and she is sick, sick, sick. She is desperate. No doubt,

you would have been too.

I will post some good info on glutathione again. I've done it in

the past, time for a refresher. I should create some files, too.

Keep sharing!

Hugs,

Patty

--- In , Kenda Skaggs <kdskaggs@c...>

wrote:

> Your brain fog sounds like liver congestion to me. Prior to my

pancreatitis

> attack three years ago, I had the same cognitive symptoms you are

talking

> about and the painful base of the neck as well. I would do some

really

> serious liver work, if I was you. When I start to feel spacey, I

know my

> liver is acting up again. I have even had blood work done at

those times to

> see if I a right and I always am. I always felt like such a nut

because I

> would say wrong words, like refrigerator and garage. I thought

for sure it

> was Alzheimer¹s or some other disease but it¹s not. You might do

some lab

> work to see what pathways are involved so you can be sure you are

taking the

> right supplements. My body doesn¹t make glutathione at all, which

is the

> root of all of my health problems.

>

> Kenda

[Guest guest]

Hi Kenda,

I learned about coffee enemas from the Gerson Organization. Dr. Max

Gerson was the first doctor who used coffee enemas to cure cancer,

(60 years ago!) along with the juicing therapies. Since then, there

has been alot of information to come to light about how coffee

enemas actually work.

Here is one description of how they work:

More ubiquitous than the wheel, enemas have been used for thousands

of years to cleanse and detoxify the body and mind. The coffee

enema is a retention enema that has a highly detoxifying effect on

the liver, and consequently the entire body. It should be pointed

out that taking coffee by mouth - even s.a.s - is toxifying (

contributes to dis-ease ) and will not have the same detoxifying

effect.

Coffee enemas work by the actions of several key ingredients:

caffeine acts to open the bile ducts, making way for an increased

detoxification by the liver, while neutraceuticals such as

Theophylline and Theobromine dilate blood vessels, increasing blood

dialysis across the colon wall. But the true power of the coffee

enema lies in the Palmitates, which increase production of prime

free-radical quencher glutathione S-transferase (GST) more than 700

times, resulting in a powerful, effective detoxification. As all of

the blood in the body passes through the liver every 3 minutes, this

15-minute retention enema represents a form of dialysis, resulting

in a uniquely effective detoxification.

This detoxification is reflected; physically, in an almost immediate

relief of pain and improvement of symptoms of 'acute' toxicity such

as nausea, tiredness and 'the flu', as well as relief from

more 'chronic' ailments, particularly pain of any kind, such as that

from headaches and migraines; mentally, in increased energy, clarity

and motivation; and emotionally, in an almost paradoxal increase in

calmness, reduction in anger, relief from stress, as well as

enhanced positivity, happiness and just plain feeling good. This

relief from symptoms is a crucial aspect of the coffee enema as it

allows us a glimpse into how we can feel when our bodies are

relieved of their toxicity, giving us an impetus to work towards

cleansing and detoxifying our bodies, minds and spirit.

Coffee enemas are known for detoxifying the entire body, relieving

symptoms such as pain, headaches, tiredness, nausea and toxicity.

Coffee enemas have been used by such pioneers as Gerson, Kelley, and

in reversing degenerative diseases such as cancer, heart

disease, stroke, arthritis, MS, ME, lupus, AIDS, HIV, and

allergies. As well as cleansing the colon, coffee enemas create a

powerful detoxification of the liver, increasing the ease and

effectiveness of any detoxification program.

http://home.bluegrass.net/~jclark/coffee_enema2.htm

It's hard to talk about coffee enemas to people interested in

health, because it sounds so freaky...but I have to...they work for

me!

Patty

--- In , Kenda Skaggs <kdskaggs@c...>

wrote:

> Hi Patty,

>

> I had forgotten about my glutathione deficiency until yesterday.

I did the

> oxidative stress test and got my results yesterday. I took the

test prior

> to starting Protandim. Dr. Leu explained to me again that I don¹t

make ANY

> glutathione at all and that it is so important for me to always

work on that

> liver pathway. I¹ll repeat the test once I have taken Protandim

for 30

> days. I hope it works for me as well as it did for Quinones

of ABC.

> He likely doesn¹t have my health issues and isn¹t as much of a

challenge.

> I¹d guess if it helps me, it should help just about anyone.

>

> How do coffee enemas increase glutathione? I take a lot of milk

thistle. I

> had been on Adva Clear by Metagenics, which is a great general

liver

> detoxifier but it doesn¹t target the area I need most help in so

Dr. Leu

> switched me to another product called Liver Protect, which is on

his

> personal label. It is so strong that it makes me sick if I take

more than

> two per day. Optimum dose is two, twice a day. Obviously I

really need it

> or it wouldn¹t make me sick but it¹s hard to choose a time to feel

like

> garbage for a while.

>

> Kenda

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I just started to read the posts so I do not know if I

will be repeating what someone else already said.

There are 2 products that are great t increasing

glutathione. One is Imu-Plus and the other Immunocal.

Imu-Plus is the copy and is significantly less in

cost. There is alit of great information on Imu-Plus

and it is documented with scientific studies. The

medical establishment prescribes this stuff.

GT

--- glory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401@...> wrote:

> Kenda,

> Thank you for that confirmation!!! I have always

> thought my liver

> was involved with the brain fog. I knew because of

> the frequency

> with which it came around my monthly cycle. The

> liver has the job

> of breaking down our hormones, and also dealing with

> the fats in our

> diet, and so I was thinking food allergies as well.

>

> I do the coffee enemas as an effort to keep my liver

> clear; however,

> the coffee enemas increase glutathione requirements,

> and I have not

> been paying attention to making sure I am getting

> enough produce or

> supplements in my diet to address this need.

>

> Maybe I have this same deficiency with

> glutathione....I will need to

> look into this. You are much better at going to the

> doctor than I

> am!

>

> Thanks Kenda, Your info is much appreciated. I am

> really glad you

> didn't get implants....your life would have been a

> mess! I got a

> call this morning from a girl who has had her

> implants only one

> month and she is sick, sick, sick. She is

> desperate. No doubt,

> you would have been too.

>

> I will post some good info on glutathione again.

> I've done it in

> the past, time for a refresher. I should create

> some files, too.

> Keep sharing!

> Hugs,

> Patty

>

>

> > Your brain fog sounds like liver congestion to me.

> Prior to my

> pancreatitis

> > attack three years ago, I had the same cognitive

> symptoms you are

> talking

> > about and the painful base of the neck as well. I

> would do some

> really

> > serious liver work, if I was you. When I start to

> feel spacey, I

> know my

> > liver is acting up again. I have even had blood

> work done at

> those times to

> > see if I a right and I always am. I always felt

> like such a nut

> because I

> > would say wrong words, like refrigerator and

> garage. I thought

> for sure it

> > was Alzheimer¹s or some other disease but it¹s

> not. You might do

> some lab

> > work to see what pathways are involved so you can

> be sure you are

> taking the

> > right supplements. My body doesn¹t make

> glutathione at all, which

> is the

> > root of all of my health problems.

> >

> > Kenda

>

>

>

>

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Hi,

Well, what you described this time is exactly what I

have...Thanks. So, did it take 4 years for yours to

be almost gone? I will be approaching the three year

mark in a few months and do wonder if it will ever go

away.

I can not remember if I told you but once I finish the

antifungals that I was prescribed I am going to try

some new and more consistent methods of detoxing.

Godbless,

GT

--- glory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401@...> wrote:

> GT,

> I am pretty sure we are talking about the same

> thing. It is really

> hard to describe the brain fog. I've tried so many

> times, and I

> think I've used several different ways to help

> others understand

> what it is, because brain fog just doesn't really

> describe it

> completely. I've suggested it was like looking at

> the world

> through a glass bottle (that was the visual

> component of it--I had

> the vision disturbances too), feeling like I am

> almost drunk even

> though I didn't drink any alcohol, feeling like my

> brain was full of

> jello, or cobwebbs, or cotton balls because I

> couldn't think

> straight, (that was the cognitive part of it.) It's

> like the

> thinking process just slows way down. Thoughts are

> harder to get

> through...words come out of the mouth different than

> when they leave

> the brain, like using " garage " when I meant the

> refrigerator. Or

> just completing sentences gets frustrating because

> the thoughts are

> delayed or something. I felt spaced out, almost

> high, but not

> really. I felt like there was a chemical imbalance

> in my brain, or

> something making it inflammed and bothered, although

> there wasn't

> any real pain. However, my neck and the back of my

> head near the

> base of my neck were so tender and achey all of the

> time! When

> laying down on my pillow at night, if I wanted to

> turn over, I could

> barely lift my head off the pillow to flip to the

> other side. It

> was so painful!

>

> All of that is gone now. I only get it on very,

> very rare occasions.

>

> Does that describe what you are feeling? I know

> Kathy said hers was

> gone right away, and that is a true blessing because

> mine took so

> long. I know there are othes who had it go away

> within a year or

> so. I wish we knew what makes it leave...but I do

> think that

> keeping the oxygen flowing to the brain through

> exercise is

> important.

>

> Hope this is enlightening!

> Patty

>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > > Hi I am going in order so maybe she replied

> to

> > > this

> > > > > already, but I

> > > > > know that the woman who started this group,

>

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Hi,

No one has answered me yet...

Did anyone with the " brain fog " and sense of feeling

" high " have peripheral neuropathy and/or tingling and

numbness with pain in extremeties??? Did this lessen

with the " brain fog " ???? Help..

GT

--- Kenda Skaggs <kdskaggs@...> wrote:

> Your brain fog sounds like liver congestion to me.

> Prior to my pancreatitis

> attack three years ago, I had the same cognitive

> symptoms you are talking

> about and the painful base of the neck as well. I

> would do some really

> serious liver work, if I was you. When I start to

> feel spacey, I know my

> liver is acting up again. I have even had blood

> work done at those times to

> see if I a right and I always am. I always felt

> like such a nut because I

> would say wrong words, like refrigerator and garage.

> I thought for sure it

> was Alzheimer¹s or some other disease but it¹s not.

> You might do some lab

> work to see what pathways are involved so you can be

> sure you are taking the

> right supplements. My body doesn¹t make glutathione

> at all, which is the

> root of all of my health problems.

>

> Kenda

>

>

> > GT,

> > I am pretty sure we are talking about the same

> thing. It is really

> > hard to describe the brain fog. I've tried so

> many times, and I

> > think I've used several different ways to help

> others understand

> > what it is, because brain fog just doesn't really

> describe it

> > completely. I've suggested it was like looking

> at the world

> > through a glass bottle (that was the visual

> component of it--I had

> > the vision disturbances too), feeling like I am

> almost drunk even

> > though I didn't drink any alcohol, feeling like my

> brain was full of

> > jello, or cobwebbs, or cotton balls because I

> couldn't think

> > straight, (that was the cognitive part of it.)

> It's like the

> > thinking process just slows way down. Thoughts are

> harder to get

> > through...words come out of the mouth different

> than when they leave

> > the brain, like using " garage " when I meant the

> refrigerator. Or

> > just completing sentences gets frustrating because

> the thoughts are

> > delayed or something. I felt spaced out, almost

> high, but not

> > really. I felt like there was a chemical

> imbalance in my brain, or

> > something making it inflammed and bothered,

> although there wasn't

> > any real pain. However, my neck and the back of

> my head near the

> > base of my neck were so tender and achey all of

> the time! When

> > laying down on my pillow at night, if I wanted to

> turn over, I could

> > barely lift my head off the pillow to flip to the

> other side. It

> > was so painful!

> >

> > All of that is gone now. I only get it on very,

> very rare occasions.

> >

> > Does that describe what you are feeling? I know

> Kathy said hers was

> > gone right away, and that is a true blessing

> because mine took so

> > long. I know there are othes who had it go away

> within a year or

> > so. I wish we knew what makes it leave...but I do

> think that

> > keeping the oxygen flowing to the brain through

> exercise is

> > important.

> >

> > Hope this is enlightening!

> > Patty

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >> >

> >>> > > Hi GT!

> >>> > > Yes, Kathy is right...I had the nasty brain

> fog for

> >>> > > quite some time,

> >>> > > and it was my most frustrating symptom, and

> >>> > > definitely the last to

> >>> > > leave. It is gone for the most part, but

> sometimes

> >>> > > (rarely) comes

> >>> > > back. I notice that it creeps up on my

> primarily

> >>> > > right before my

> >>> > > monthly cycle begins, but not every month.

> So, I

> >>> > > tend to believe it

> >>> > > is related to hormonal issues, but there

> have been

> >>> > > times when I

> >>> > > wondered if it was related to undiagnosed

> food

> >>> > > allergies as well.

> >>> > > I've never been able to figure it out.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > The good news is that it finally dissipated

> to the

> >>> > > point of me not

> >>> > > being aware of it anymore. When it does

> come again,

> >>> > > it is really

> >>> > > noticeable and frustrating! But I live a

> totally

> >>> > > normal life again,

> >>> > > the brain fog is really a thing of the past,

> and I

> >>> > > consider it gone.

> >>> > > It took a loooong time--probablyl close to 4

> years

> >>> > > for resolution to

> >>> > > this point. Exercise definitely helps alot.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > I don't know if that makes you feel better

> or

> >>> > > not...healing seems to

> >>> > > take so long, and I can totally relate to

> your

> >>> > > frustration with the

> >>> > > thing. I broke down in tears more than once

> about

> >>> > > my brain fog

> >>> > > hanging on and on and on.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > In the final analysis, I believe it is my

> detoxing

>

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HI GT,

I definitely had the tingling in the extremities. Mostly my hands

and sometimes my legs. It did go away pretty completely in about a

year or two. Wish I could be more specific than that, but it didn't

seem to be a really severe problem, in terms of debilitation. It

was kind of in the background of all my other symptoms. However,

after explant, I had a scary experience one time in which my arm

went totally numb in the early morning hours, as I was going to get

up out of bed to go to the bathroom. It was an extremely

frightening experience. In about 2 seconds I had realized that the

strange log that I thought was laying on my bed was my arm and I

couldn't feel it at all, nor move it on my own! It was like it was

paralyzed or something. I had to pick it up with my other hand to

move it, and then out of sheer panic I started to beat it. I didn't

know what else to do. It took a few seconds, but the feeling

started to come back very slowly, and then it was tingling pretty

badly. It only happened that one time, but it sure scared the heck

out of me. It hasn't happened since then, but I did get the

tingling in my extremities to a lesser and lesser degree, and then

finally it was just pretty much gone for good.

The only thing that is residual now is that I can't lean on my side

on the floor and prop my head up with my wrist for long periods of

time. My hand starts to go to sleep pretty fast in that position.

Otherwise, things are really back to normal.

Hope that helps!

Patty

> Hi,

>

> No one has answered me yet...

>

>

> Did anyone with the " brain fog " and sense of feeling

> " high " have peripheral neuropathy and/or tingling and

> numbness with pain in extremeties??? Did this lessen

> with the " brain fog " ???? Help..

>

> GT

[Guest guest]

Hi Patty,

Thank you for the info! I have to admit, I thought coffee enemas were hocus pocus! Do you do these to yourself or have them done? It sounds awful but worth trying. Are you really uncomfortable for the 15 minutes you have to hold it? I remember my mom pinning me down as a kid and giving me a Fleet and I thought I would die! I had major cramping.

Kenda

Hi Kenda,

I learned about coffee enemas from the Gerson Organization. Dr. Max

Gerson was the first doctor who used coffee enemas to cure cancer,

(60 years ago!) along with the juicing therapies. Since then, there

has been alot of information to come to light about how coffee

enemas actually work.

Here is one description of how they work:

More ubiquitous than the wheel, enemas have been used for thousands

of years to cleanse and detoxify the body and mind. The coffee

enema is a retention enema that has a highly detoxifying effect on

the liver, and consequently the entire body. It should be pointed

out that taking coffee by mouth - even s.a.s - is toxifying (

contributes to dis-ease ) and will not have the same detoxifying

effect.

Coffee enemas work by the actions of several key ingredients:

caffeine acts to open the bile ducts, making way for an increased

detoxification by the liver, while neutraceuticals such as

Theophylline and Theobromine dilate blood vessels, increasing blood

dialysis across the colon wall. But the true power of the coffee

enema lies in the Palmitates, which increase production of prime

free-radical quencher glutathione S-transferase (GST) more than 700

times, resulting in a powerful, effective detoxification. As all of

the blood in the body passes through the liver every 3 minutes, this

15-minute retention enema represents a form of dialysis, resulting

in a uniquely effective detoxification.

This detoxification is reflected; physically, in an almost immediate

relief of pain and improvement of symptoms of 'acute' toxicity such

as nausea, tiredness and 'the flu', as well as relief from

more 'chronic' ailments, particularly pain of any kind, such as that

from headaches and migraines; mentally, in increased energy, clarity

and motivation; and emotionally, in an almost paradoxal increase in

calmness, reduction in anger, relief from stress, as well as

enhanced positivity, happiness and just plain feeling good. This

relief from symptoms is a crucial aspect of the coffee enema as it

allows us a glimpse into how we can feel when our bodies are

relieved of their toxicity, giving us an impetus to work towards

cleansing and detoxifying our bodies, minds and spirit.

Coffee enemas are known for detoxifying the entire body, relieving

symptoms such as pain, headaches, tiredness, nausea and toxicity.

Coffee enemas have been used by such pioneers as Gerson, Kelley, and

in reversing degenerative diseases such as cancer, heart

disease, stroke, arthritis, MS, ME, lupus, AIDS, HIV, and

allergies. As well as cleansing the colon, coffee enemas create a

powerful detoxification of the liver, increasing the ease and

effectiveness of any detoxification program.

http://home.bluegrass.net/~jclark/coffee_enema2.htm

It's hard to talk about coffee enemas to people interested in

health, because it sounds so freaky...but I have to...they work for

me!

Patty

--- In , Kenda Skaggs <kdskaggs@c...>

wrote:

> Hi Patty,

>

> I had forgotten about my glutathione deficiency until yesterday.

I did the

> oxidative stress test and got my results yesterday. I took the

test prior

> to starting Protandim. Dr. Leu explained to me again that I don’t

make ANY

> glutathione at all and that it is so important for me to always

work on that

> liver pathway. I’ll repeat the test once I have taken Protandim

for 30

> days. I hope it works for me as well as it did for Quinones

of ABC.

> He likely doesn’t have my health issues and isn’t as much of a

challenge.

> I’d guess if it helps me, it should help just about anyone.

>

> How do coffee enemas increase glutathione? I take a lot of milk

thistle. I

> had been on Adva Clear by Metagenics, which is a great general

liver

> detoxifier but it doesn’t target the area I need most help in so

Dr. Leu

> switched me to another product called Liver Protect, which is on

his

> personal label. It is so strong that it makes me sick if I take

more than

> two per day. Optimum dose is two, twice a day. Obviously I

really need it

> or it wouldn’t make me sick but it’s hard to choose a time to feel

like

> garbage for a while.

>

> Kenda

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[Guest guest]

Kenda,

What specific blood work did you have done to test the liver? This

was through the naturopathic doctor and not an MD, right?

Patty

--- In , Kenda Skaggs <kdskaggs@c...>

wrote:

> Your brain fog sounds like liver congestion to me. Prior to my

pancreatitis

> attack three years ago, I had the same cognitive symptoms you are

talking

> about and the painful base of the neck as well. I would do some

really

> serious liver work, if I was you. When I start to feel spacey, I

know my

> liver is acting up again. I have even had blood work done at

those times to

> see if I a right and I always am. I always felt like such a nut

because I

> would say wrong words, like refrigerator and garage. I thought

for sure it

> was Alzheimer¹s or some other disease but it¹s not. You might do

some lab

> work to see what pathways are involved so you can be sure you are

taking the

> right supplements. My body doesn¹t make glutathione at all, which

is the

> root of all of my health problems.

>

> Kenda

[Guest guest]

gabriella

HI. I have had the tingling and numbness off and on in the finger,

toes, and lower legs for years. It is especially common in fms. I

don't really have it anymore. When I was really sick from the

implants, I also had severe pain in my hands, arms, and feet. That

is gone unless I do a heavy detox. I also experienced some weird

numbness feelings in my arm where it would all of a sudden seem like

it was dead--like it had gone to sleep yet without the pain and

tingling like when you lay on it and that happens. It felt like I

couldn't pick it up (though I really could). That has never come

back!! Some people think that alpha lipoic acid really helps with

peripheral neuropathy as well as vitamin 12. The vitamin 12 sub

lingual did seem to help me for a while.

Hugs, kathy

> > >> >

> > >>> > > Hi GT!

> > >>> > > Yes, Kathy is right...I had the nasty brain

> > fog for

> > >>> > > quite some time,

> > >>> > > and it was my most frustrating symptom, and

> > >>> > > definitely the last to

> > >>> > > leave. It is gone for the most part, but

> > sometimes

> > >>> > > (rarely) comes

> > >>> > > back. I notice that it creeps up on my

> > primarily

> > >>> > > right before my

> > >>> > > monthly cycle begins, but not every month.

> > So, I

> > >>> > > tend to believe it

> > >>> > > is related to hormonal issues, but there

> > have been

> > >>> > > times when I

> > >>> > > wondered if it was related to undiagnosed

> > food

> > >>> > > allergies as well.

> > >>> > > I've never been able to figure it out.

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > The good news is that it finally dissipated

> > to the

> > >>> > > point of me not

> > >>> > > being aware of it anymore. When it does

> > come again,

> > >>> > > it is really

> > >>> > > noticeable and frustrating! But I live a

> > totally

> > >>> > > normal life again,

> > >>> > > the brain fog is really a thing of the past,

> > and I

> > >>> > > consider it gone.

> > >>> > > It took a loooong time--probablyl close to 4

> > years

> > >>> > > for resolution to

> > >>> > > this point. Exercise definitely helps alot.

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > I don't know if that makes you feel better

> > or

> > >>> > > not...healing seems to

> > >>> > > take so long, and I can totally relate to

> > your

> > >>> > > frustration with the

> > >>> > > thing. I broke down in tears more than once

> > about

> > >>> > > my brain fog

> > >>> > > hanging on and on and on.

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > In the final analysis, I believe it is my

> > detoxing

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

>

>

>

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Patty

I just wrote gabriella the exact same thing about my arm going

numb. It happened in the exact same way you said. That is too

weird!

Hugs, kathy

> > Hi,

> >

> > No one has answered me yet...

> >

> >

> > Did anyone with the " brain fog " and sense of feeling

> > " high " have peripheral neuropathy and/or tingling and

> > numbness with pain in extremeties??? Did this lessen

> > with the " brain fog " ???? Help..

> >

> > GT

[Guest guest]

Hi Patty,

I had regular liver function tests through my MD and genetic detoxification testing through my ND. It was the genetic tests that revealed my glutathione problems. The regular liver panel showed my elevated liver and pancreatic enzymes. My MD wasn’t alarmed or concerned about my high liver enzymes because they weren’t “too” high, in his opinion. My ND didn’t agree at all.

Kenda

Kenda,

What specific blood work did you have done to test the liver? This

was through the naturopathic doctor and not an MD, right?

Patty

--- In , Kenda Skaggs <kdskaggs@c...>

wrote:

> Your brain fog sounds like liver congestion to me. Prior to my

pancreatitis

> attack three years ago, I had the same cognitive symptoms you are

talking

> about and the painful base of the neck as well. I would do some

really

> serious liver work, if I was you. When I start to feel spacey, I

know my

> liver is acting up again. I have even had blood work done at

those times to

> see if I a right and I always am. I always felt like such a nut

because I

> would say wrong words, like refrigerator and garage. I thought

for sure it

> was Alzheimer’s or some other disease but it’s not. You might do

some lab

> work to see what pathways are involved so you can be sure you are

taking the

> right supplements. My body doesn’t make glutathione at all, which

is the

> root of all of my health problems.

>

> Kenda

Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

" Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Hello,

It just amazes me how so many of us have the same

symptoms. There must be a common cause within this

mess... What I mean is that when many have the same

symptoms there should be a way to figure out a

concrete treatment to help.

GT

--- mikat828 <mikat828@...> wrote:

> gabriella

> HI. I have had the tingling and numbness off and on

> in the finger,

> toes, and lower legs for years. It is especially

> common in fms. I

> don't really have it anymore. When I was really

> sick from the

> implants, I also had severe pain in my hands, arms,

> and feet. That

> is gone unless I do a heavy detox. I also

> experienced some weird

> numbness feelings in my arm where it would all of a

> sudden seem like

> it was dead--like it had gone to sleep yet without

> the pain and

> tingling like when you lay on it and that happens.

> It felt like I

> couldn't pick it up (though I really could). That

> has never come

> back!! Some people think that alpha lipoic acid

> really helps with

> peripheral neuropathy as well as vitamin 12. The

> vitamin 12 sub

> lingual did seem to help me for a while.

> Hugs, kathy

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Hi,

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I am not in Vegas yet but should be there

> very

> > > soon.

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Thanks for the positive words. I wonder if

> > > what you

> > > >> > are calling brain fog is the same thing I

> have.

> > > I

> > > >> > definitely have a problem with cognitive

> > > function that

> > > >> > varies day by day, but, what I also have is

> > > this

> > > >> > " weird " feeling in my head that is very

> hard to

> > > >> > describe. It is like I am lightheaded but

> a

> > > little

> > > >> > different. I usually have visual

> disturbances

> > > with it

> > > >> > when it is bad. I can not seem to get both

> of

> > > my eyes

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

I think that I am going to keep everyone up to date on

how long it takes for my numbness and lightheadedness

to be at least almost gone. It seems to be taking a

long time for mine to subside and I think it would be

good for others if I let them know when mine is alot

better...

GT

--- glory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401@...> wrote:

> HI GT,

> I definitely had the tingling in the extremities.

> Mostly my hands

> and sometimes my legs. It did go away pretty

> completely in about a

> year or two. Wish I could be more specific than

> that, but it didn't

> seem to be a really severe problem, in terms of

> debilitation. It

> was kind of in the background of all my other

> symptoms. However,

> after explant, I had a scary experience one time in

> which my arm

> went totally numb in the early morning hours, as I

> was going to get

> up out of bed to go to the bathroom. It was an

> extremely

> frightening experience. In about 2 seconds I had

> realized that the

> strange log that I thought was laying on my bed was

> my arm and I

> couldn't feel it at all, nor move it on my own! It

> was like it was

> paralyzed or something. I had to pick it up with my

> other hand to

> move it, and then out of sheer panic I started to

> beat it. I didn't

> know what else to do. It took a few seconds, but

> the feeling

> started to come back very slowly, and then it was

> tingling pretty

> badly. It only happened that one time, but it sure

> scared the heck

> out of me. It hasn't happened since then, but I did

> get the

> tingling in my extremities to a lesser and lesser

> degree, and then

> finally it was just pretty much gone for good.

>

> The only thing that is residual now is that I can't

> lean on my side

> on the floor and prop my head up with my wrist for

> long periods of

> time. My hand starts to go to sleep pretty fast in

> that position.

> Otherwise, things are really back to normal.

> Hope that helps!

> Patty

>

>

>

> > Hi,

> >

> > No one has answered me yet...

> >

> >

> > Did anyone with the " brain fog " and sense of

> feeling

> > " high " have peripheral neuropathy and/or tingling

> and

> > numbness with pain in extremeties??? Did this

> lessen

> > with the " brain fog " ???? Help..

> >

> > GT

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

GT,

Once the medical profession admits we are sick because

of implants, they will probably have a host of

medications ready to treat the problems . . . Right

now, they are heavily invested in denying the link!

Problem is, we usually do better with fewer

medications than with more!

I'm glad to hear you are making progress!

Hugs,

Rogene

--- la Todarello <tasslekitty@...> wrote:

> Hello,

>

>

> It just amazes me how so many of us have the same

> symptoms. There must be a common cause within this

> mess... What I mean is that when many have the same

> symptoms there should be a way to figure out a

> concrete treatment to help.

>

>

> GT

>

> --- mikat828 <mikat828@...> wrote:

>

> > gabriella

> > HI. I have had the tingling and numbness off and

> on

> > in the finger,

> > toes, and lower legs for years. It is especially

> > common in fms. I

> > don't really have it anymore. When I was really

> > sick from the

> > implants, I also had severe pain in my hands,

> arms,

> > and feet. That

> > is gone unless I do a heavy detox. I also

> > experienced some weird

> > numbness feelings in my arm where it would all of

> a

> > sudden seem like

> > it was dead--like it had gone to sleep yet without

> > the pain and

> > tingling like when you lay on it and that happens.

>

> > It felt like I

> > couldn't pick it up (though I really could). That

> > has never come

> > back!! Some people think that alpha lipoic acid

> > really helps with

> > peripheral neuropathy as well as vitamin 12. The

> > vitamin 12 sub

> > lingual did seem to help me for a while.

> > Hugs, kathy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > > Your brain fog sounds like liver congestion to

> > me.

> > > > Prior to my pancreatitis

> > > > attack three years ago, I had the same

> cognitive

> > > > symptoms you are talking

> > > > about and the painful base of the neck as

> well.

> > I

> > > > would do some really

> > > > serious liver work, if I was you. When I

> start

> > to

> > > > feel spacey, I know my

> > > > liver is acting up again. I have even had

> blood

> > > > work done at those times to

> > > > see if I a right and I always am. I always

> felt

> > > > like such a nut because I

> > > > would say wrong words, like refrigerator and

> > garage.

> > > > I thought for sure it

> > > > was Alzheimer¹s or some other disease but it¹s

> > not.

> > > > You might do some lab

> > > > work to see what pathways are involved so you

> > can be

> > > > sure you are taking the

> > > > right supplements. My body doesn¹t make

> > glutathione

> > > > at all, which is the

> > > > root of all of my health problems.

> > > >

> > > > Kenda

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > GT,

> > > > > I am pretty sure we are talking about the

> same

> > > > thing. It is really

> > > > > hard to describe the brain fog. I've tried

> so

> > > > many times, and I

> > > > > think I've used several different ways to

> help

> > > > others understand

> > > > > what it is, because brain fog just doesn't

> > really

> > > > describe it

> > > > > completely. I've suggested it was like

> > looking

> > > > at the world

> > > > > through a glass bottle (that was the visual

> > > > component of it--I had

> > > > > the vision disturbances too), feeling like I

> > am

> > > > almost drunk even

> > > > > though I didn't drink any alcohol, feeling

> > like my

> > > > brain was full of

> > > > > jello, or cobwebbs, or cotton balls because

> I

> > > > couldn't think

> > > > > straight, (that was the cognitive part of

> it.)

> >

> > > > It's like the

> > > > > thinking process just slows way down.

> Thoughts

> > are

> > > > harder to get

> > > > > through...words come out of the mouth

> > different

> > > > than when they leave

> > > > > the brain, like using " garage " when I meant

> > the

> > > > refrigerator. Or

> > > > > just completing sentences gets frustrating

> > because

> > > > the thoughts are

> > > > > delayed or something. I felt spaced out,

> > almost

> > > > high, but not

> > > > > really. I felt like there was a chemical

> > > > imbalance in my brain, or

> > > > > something making it inflammed and bothered,

> > > > although there wasn't

> > > > > any real pain. However, my neck and the

> back

> > of

> > > > my head near the

> > > > > base of my neck were so tender and achey all

> > of

> > > > the time! When

> > > > > laying down on my pillow at night, if I

> wanted

> > to

> > > > turn over, I could

> > > > > barely lift my head off the pillow to flip

> to

> > the

> > > > other side. It

> > > > > was so painful!

> > > > >

> > > > > All of that is gone now. I only get it on

> > very,

> > > > very rare occasions.

> > > > >

> > > > > Does that describe what you are feeling? I

> > know

> > > > Kathy said hers was

> > > > > gone right away, and that is a true blessing

> > > > because mine took so

> > > > > long. I know there are othes who had it go

> > away

> > > > within a year or

> > > > > so. I wish we knew what makes it

> leave...but

> > I do

> > > > think that

> > > > > keeping the oxygen flowing to the brain

> > through

> > > > exercise is

> > > > > important.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hope this is enlightening!

> > > > > Patty

> > > > >

>

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