Re: Re: 4 subjects challenge Lilly over drugtrial

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

You said:

<<Had you taken the time to list the brand names, not the generic

names, or the drugs you list in your lenghty quote above, it would

have been of considerable use to a recovery groups. Most

people do not know that venfaxline is Effexor, the same drug that

prro Yates was pilled to the gills on when she flipped

and drowned her kids. Any takers on how deeply her CYP 450

profile was buried in that law suit?>>

** , you've just been totally unresponsive to the content of my

post, and instead, criticized my decision to use the generic name for

Effexor (which I do so people on the list from other countries know what

drug is being talked about).

You said:

<<, apparently you do not recall that

when I joined, at Glitter's invitation, I sent you a " hello " message

and can produce it - as well as your reply.

As for the amount of thime that should be spent on this topic -

I suggest you look at the cbc site

http://www.cbc.ca and look for Generation RX.>>

** I found your email to me (which is how I found your name).

As for http://www.cbc.ca , this is not what this group is about. This

group is about withdrawal and recovery.

In response to my statement:

" I've spent as much time as I'm going to spend on this topic. "

You said:

<<If you were my phyusician, that would not be the case>>

** Well, I'm not. I'm a list owner who has chosen her focus to be on

the withdrawal and recovery from psychotropic drugs. Your opinion that I

spend more time on this topic is like telling a showmaker how you want the

cake made for your wedding anniversary.

Regards,

[Guest guest]

Dear Glitter,

You said:

<<She was on DOUBLE the maximum dose of Effexor. She was also on Remeron.

She had just come off cold turkey from Haldol. Forget the P450. This

woman's brains were an omelette.>>

** Had she lacked the proper enzymes to metabolize Effexor this would

have become evident very early on in taking it. She could not have taken a

regular dose, nevermind this overdose.

Regards,

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

You said:

<<Right. The best educators simplify. I have found that if I wish to

keep the attention of the (regular) reader I must use plain writing

and plain usage Otherwise I lose them. >>

** My post was not geared to the " regular " reader. It was a response to

you. There are some instances where things cannot be simplified without

losing important information. This is the case with P450.

Regards,

[Guest guest]

Dear " " ,

You said:

<<After finding Faint Warning and Generation RX on CBC radio and

internet, I have turned over all my CYP450 reference materials to

a science reporter who worked on this project.

I have every reason to believe that this writer has the skill and

motivation to make this difficult topic both understandable and

useful to the world.>>

** I have to disagree with you here. Though it can be brought down to a

level where most people get the gist of it (we've done that before here),

the details that are important to have in order to make it useful require a

strong foundation in science to understand it.

That you believe a reporter can accurately elucidate what science has

yet to completely elucidate tells me that you are are only getting the

overview and are not understanding that the devil is in the details.

But now, I am really done with this topic. At this point, you are

disrupting the group. Your personal crusade is not appropriate for this

group. Any further posts on this will result in a ban.

Btw, I've not postedsome of the articles you sent. They are repeats of

things we've already posted here.