antibiotic therapy

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Rogene

I want to further clarify some of the things talked about.

Mycoplasma infection, like lyme, is often hard to detect.

Many people who test negative at first, test positive after

beginning treatment (because

they hide so well within the cells). It is not a straight forward

thing.

That is one reason that few doctors test for mycoplasma

before prescribing antibiotic therapy. Whether found to have

mycoplasma or not, AP works for somewhere between 67-85% of the

people who stick with it. It has been tested

in double blind studies especially for RA. This therapy is

prescribed by some well respected rheumatologists including Dr.

Trentham in Beth Israel Hospital. It is clear that many

people have gotten their lives back through it.

While Dr. Brown thought AP worked by killing off mycoplasma, it may

also be working because of its effect on the immune system. The

tetracycline family has some immune modulating properties as well as

affecting collagen (collagen is involved in many autoimmune

diseases.) It may be that the

antibiotic is actually killing other bacteria also--such as

nanobacteria

that are known to be involved in autoimmune illness. Studies have

shown antibiotic therapy to also work to some degree against ms,

als, sarcoidosis, fms, and even osteoarthritis.

Though they tell people that the mycoplasma can't build up tolerance

to these antibiotics, they somehow do and some people need to tweak

the therapy after a few years.

Dr. Mercola, is heavily into alternative medicine--and is leaning

away from antibiotics and more into his EFT and NST. I have a

friend that was on antibiotics for scleroderma--through him --and he

suddenly decided to take her off and try that instead. She worsened

and switched doctors. Many alternative doctors and regular doctors

are willing to try AP. More are as resistant to trying it as they

are all forms of alternative medicine.

The fact that I herx so easily and harshly isn't connected with my

taking antibiotics. I am in the minority comparedd to others who

use the Antibiotic therapy. The average

person on ap herxes at first, usually a moderate amount, then

adjusts and that is the end of it unless they increase their dosage

or change antibiotics. Others have severe herxes at

first, then get better. Still others don't herx at all. They just

notice an improvement either gradually or dramatically. Then you

have people like me, who herx on very

small amounts and don't get past it easily. I have only

encountered a handful of people like me on the three rheumatic sites

that have my problem so I think it has something to do with my

ability to detox and others have agreed. In fact, Anita's son seems

to be very similar to

me.

I mention the antibiotic therapy because it can and does save

lives. There are no cures for lupus,scleroderma and RA to name a

few. The drugs, such as methotrexate

used to " control " these diseases are deadly. The lupus foundation

readily admits that a high percentage of people who die of lupus are

from complications from these toxic drugs.

Almost all people on antibiotic therapy use acidolphilus supplements

to protect against yeast. Contrary to popular belief, they are not

having any more candida problems than anyone else found to have the

same symptoms and not using antibiotic therapy. In fact, several

people have found that a three prong approach to their illness that

works quite well is minocin, diflucan and flagyl. Each works

against different organisms.

Not all mycoplasma were biologically engineered. In fact it is not

uncommon to find well people with mycoplasma. Only certain types---

such

as mycoplasma fermantans (which I have) were altered in an attempt

at germ warfare. These have been released unsuspectingly on the

population at large. Interestingly enough, when gulf war syndrome

was being investigated, they found that only when the family members

had the same mycoplasma that made the father sick, did they get sick

too. The other types of mycoplasma are not heavily associated with

these serious illnesses.

Mycoplasma is also killed by olive leaf extract, immunocal, oil of

oregano, and others. These natural methods may due to the trick,but

then again, for many of these people they do not and if you are

dying of scleroderma you don't have the time to find out.

I think we have to remain openminded about getting well. It is

essential to realize that what works for one person may not work for

another. Our bodies are so complex. No researcher or doctor

understands the

immune system that well. The enemies of the immune system are

numerous and are not well understood. The fixes are even less well

understood. I am just grateful that there are so many paths to try

when one fails to bring about the desired effect. There is no one

path to wellness just as there is probably no one path to disease.

I just wanted to make sure that the wrong impression is not given

about the antibiotic therapy. The majority of people on AP

(antibiotic protocol) have never been tested for mycoplasmal

infection and are receiving benefit from it.

Hugs, kathy

-- In , Rogene S <saxony01@y...> wrote:

> What Kathy is talking about is a mycoplasma infection.

> . . You will learn more than I can tell you by doing a

> search for the term.

>

> However, basically, a mycoplasma bacteria is an

> extremely small organism. It has no cell walls. It

> lives by invading cells where it multiplies, then

> spreading to other cells. It can result in numerous

> symptoms, including death.

>

> This bacteria was initially cultured for biological

> warfare. However, it's gotten loose in the public.

> People with suppresed immune systems are particularly

> subject to being infected.

>

> Mycoplasma bacterial infections are treated with small

> dose of antibiotics taken long term. The idea is to

> catch the organism between cells when it is vunerable.

>

>

> I suspect the reason that Kathy has has such an

> extremely difficult time detoxing, with horrible

> herxes, has to do with the fact that she must continue

> taking antibiotics until she is clear of the

> mycoplasma organism.

>

> There are some very specific blood tests that detect

> mycoplasma. They are not routinely given by doctors.

> One microbiological scientist, Garth Nicolson,

> believes that a very large number of those suffering

> from arthritis actually have a mycoplasma infection.

>

> Rubin, author of Patient Heal Thyself and The Maker's

> Diet, believes that mycoplasma can treated through the

> right supplements and diet. Dr. Mercola, 's

> doctor, believes that the only proper use of

> antibiotics is the treatment of mycoplasma.

>

> Hope this helps!

>

> Hugs to all,

>

> Rogene