Re: Please describe a Palp:-))

[Guest guest]

> Just curious; what do you mean when you say you had heart palps?

It's when your heart does a few extra beats really quickly. I can

feel mine. But also understand that everyone in their lifetime can

have a palpitation for some reason. And I...I have Mitral Valve

Prolapse (MVP), which means my Mitral Valve is floppy and not firm

like yours. So when my heart beats, it does not get the same amount

of blood through that yours does, and my heart beats a little faster

than others. And MVP can cause a few palps. Very benign, in my case.

SO when I got on Armour with it's T3 (which my body had not had

enough of for 20 LONG years!!), it aggravated those normal-for-me

palps a little. I would feel maybe one or two a day for about a week

after I raised each dose. Then they'd be gone.

BUT, when I added 1/4 grain to my then 2 grains (which was my

optimal dose, and may still be), it caused MANY MANY palps for

several hours for a few days. Now THAT was scarey, and it told me

that I needed to go back down to 2 grains.

Hope that helps.

Janie (aka " Janie Lynn " with a slight western drawl by my cowboy

husband)

[Guest guest]

Do you know what is weird. Sometimes during my PMS week I would get

palpitations. Just weird. So far I haven't noticed it on Thyrolar.

Which leads me to a question - I know many of you split up your

Armour and take it during the day. Should I be doing that or should I

stick to what seems to be working (taking the one dose in the morning

after I eat. Yes I know that its preferred to take it on an empty

stomach but because of my schedule this works out better. And I make

certain I am consistent. )

Lastly I am happy that my allergies are virtually non existent this

year. Usually I live on OTC allergy stuff from mid April through our

first hard freeze in Oct but this year, even with a wet spring, I

haven't had to take anything. Woo Hoo.

Louise

PS Drs office hasn't called with the results yet for my blood test.

Hopefully I'll get them tomorrow.

[Guest guest]

> Which leads me to a question - I know many of you split up your

> Armour and take it during the day. Should I be doing that or

should I stick to what seems to be working (taking the one dose in

the morning after I eat.

Gracia on our list takes hers all at one time. Topper (or is it

) takes hers several times during the day. Others split it

twice a day. The theory is that since your own thyroid releases it

throughout the day, it might be better to also give it to yourself

at least twice a day. I take 1/2 in the morning and the other half

around 1:30 or 2ish.

When you take Armour (or Thyrolar), the T3 peaks in about 2 hours. I

especially want that peak in the late afternoon when my circadian

rhythm is at it's lowest.

It also appears that the majority of Armour docs recommend the

splitting. But it's entirely up to you and how you feel you are

doing.

Hope that helps.

Janie

[Guest guest]

It's me Topper... I'm the one that takes is a gazillion times a day... 5

actually.... I'd been without hormone for several years and my body was

way run down.. I have no thyroid and the frequent dosing seems to be a

postive for me.. I don't have ups and downs during the day doing it this

way -with the frequent small dosing I seem to have more consistant

levels...

...so it works for me.. but may not be something that others would need to

do...

Topper ()

> Gracia on our list takes hers all at one time. Topper (or is it

> ) takes hers several times during the day. Others split it

> twice a day. The theory is that since your own thyroid releases it

> throughout the day, it might be better to also give it to yourself

> at least twice a day. I take 1/2 in the morning and the other half

> around 1:30 or 2ish.

> When you take Armour (or Thyrolar), the T3 peaks in about 2 hours. I

> especially want that peak in the late afternoon when my circadian

> rhythm is at it's lowest.

> It also appears that the majority of Armour docs recommend the

> splitting. But it's entirely up to you and how you feel you are

> doing.

>

> Hope that helps.

>

> Janie

[Guest guest]

The textbook definition is the ability to feel your heart beat. Sometimes

this happens because of a flip-flop feeling (like MVP gives, though you do

not have to have MVP to have that feeling, it happens to everyone now and

then) sometimes it happens when your heart is beating fast. Sometimes when

your heart is beating slow...it is simply the sensation of feeling your

heart without trying.

My palps on Levoxyl were SO bad that I could not eat or sleep. All my life

consisted of was feeling my heart beating 24/7. I think it literally drove

me crazy. It was something right out of edgar allen poe. I am on lower than

the " recomended " dose of co-Q 10, but then I am small. It seems in low

doeses that the co-q 10 and the magnesuim have really helped in the way of

getting my heart palps down. There is nothing wrong with my heart, that has

been throughly checked. So, it was a matter of getting my heart to slow and

then for me to de-stress, as man was I stressed from that!

[Guest guest]

When I get palps which is not all the time and apparently when I get

over stressed as it happened last night when I was upset, I tend to

get this strange feeling in my chest. Like sometimes I even get the

feeling before it happens so I know it's coming. Sometimes I have no

feeling at all. I have gotten them more often now that he upped my

synthroid dose.The feeling does border on a dull pain and is quite

uncomfortable. Does anyone else here get this with their palps? I

have it now and feel kind of nautious too boot, my chest feels

funny. I have had my heart hooked up before and they say I am fine.

My endo is not happy that I am having them though he does not feel

they are caused from the meds. Not having that good of a time lately

with my dh so I think if I am still feeling crappy when I go to work

that I will leave early if I don't start to feel better. Sometimes

once I get moving I feel better. It's supposed to be our last good

day of this week any way.

Hope you all have a great day!!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/21/03 5:53:26 AM US Eastern Standard Time,

hiddenwell@... writes:

> Does anyone else here get this with their palps? I

> have it now and feel kind of nautious too boot, my chest feels

> funny. I

I was getting this from both evil levoxyl and from armour and I hated it. My

heart would pound really fast, then it would slow down very low for me but

still pound hard. I couldn't sleep and felt like I was going to crawl out of

my skin, which is similar to how I feel when I have caffeine. But my

adrenals are working overtime, so I am trying to find someone to address

those before I go back on armour.

[Guest guest]

Hi, Bev. I've had MVP (mitral valve prolapse) since childhood (they

say I was born with it). I get palpitations all the time (since age

14). It's more than a rapid pulse/heartbeat. It's actually pretty

forceful, and in fact when I get them they rock my body back and

forth, and if I sit still... other people can see it happening. For

me, they can last less than a minute or as long as an hour (longest

one to-date). If it lasts more than a couple of minutes I'm

breathless, almost too breathless to talk (like I've just finished a

sprint). If they last a long time then I'm aching and tired all

over, and they usually make me sweat when they last longer than

20min. I have no feelings of anxiety, panic, fear...nothing like

that. It's just, well, strange feeling. Oh, and the really long

ones can make my chest ache a bit. When I've taken my pulse during

these episodes my heart rate is almost too fast to count, and the

most I've counted while having one is 180 bpm. This doesn't panic me

or freak me out because I've been having these since age 14. They

come on for no reason at all (sometimes while I'm just sitting

there), but often come on due to a sneeze, cough, sudden movement,

bending over to pick something up, and even laughing too hard. Maybe

the best way to describe it is like this: Do you know that feeling

when you get REALLY startled, so startled that you grab your chest?

Remember that INITIAL " aching somersault " your heart does when that

happens? Well, palpitations often start out like that, with that

initial " flip " feeling. However, not always. ) They're sort of an

enigma. But with MVP I also get that third heartbeat (it's obvious

when you feel it) and heart flutters, like a hundred butterflies

flipping about in my chest. But the palpitations are very obvious

and you KNOW when it happens that it's a whole lot more than a faster

heartbeat. It's an EXTREMELY fast heartbeat with FORCE.

Hope that helps.

Ella

> Hi EveryOne,

>

> Just curious; what do you mean when you say you had heart

palps?

>

> Can you please describe what that feels like, how long it lasts,

and whether

> or not it indicates a rapid heart beat or pulse. I keep seeing the

phrase

> but not sue what it means.

>

> Seems useful to know for sure.. thanks:-))

>

> Peace, Love and Harmony,

> Bev

[Guest guest]

> I was getting this from both evil levoxyl and from armour and I

>it. My heart would pound really fast, then it would slow down very

>low for me but still pound hard.

Geez, sometimes I think our bodies are really dumb. Your ANS

overreacts to something your body needs, kind of like a Vietnam vet

reacts if a butterfly flys by. Keep us informed, , how things

work out for you.

Janie

[Guest guest]

I take my Armour three times a day - sublingually.

Zina

> > Which leads me to a question - I know many of you split up your

> > Armour and take it during the day. Should I be doing that or

> should I stick to what seems to be working (taking the one dose in

> the morning after I eat.

>

> Gracia on our list takes hers all at one time. Topper (or is it

> ) takes hers several times during the day. Others split it

> twice a day. The theory is that since your own thyroid releases it

> throughout the day, it might be better to also give it to yourself

> at least twice a day. I take 1/2 in the morning and the other half

> around 1:30 or 2ish.

>

> When you take Armour (or Thyrolar), the T3 peaks in about 2 hours.

I

> especially want that peak in the late afternoon when my circadian

> rhythm is at it's lowest.

>

> It also appears that the majority of Armour docs recommend the

> splitting. But it's entirely up to you and how you feel you are

> doing.

>

> Hope that helps.

>

> Janie

[Guest guest]

> I take my Armour three times a day - sublingually.

>

> Zina

OK, that does it! I have to figure out a way to try it, and remember

to do it!! Need a good pill splitter that Bev recommended.

Janie