Re: Rogene-candida - Patty

[Guest guest]

Kim,

I'd suggest that, since you've already started Olive

Leaf Oil, that you continue with that for a while

before starting Fungal Defense. After you find out how

you feel on that, and finish the cleanse, then start

Fungal Defense. Fungal Defense puts organisms in your

body to KILL off the negative organisms. Primal

Defense puts organisms in your body to CONTROL

negative organism. It takes time for the beneficial

organism to colonize to the point they can do their

job. So, you will need to take Primal Defense for at

least several months.

The different detox programs target different

organisms, so rotating among different ones can be

more beneficial that sticking to just one.

With Olive leaf or Fungal Defense, you may feel a herx

effect . . . Usually just makes you aware that you

have a stomach/gut and that something is going on

there. This is good as long as it doesn't become too

severe. If you become too uncomfortable, back off a

little. Just be sure to drink a lot of pure water . ..

at least 1/2 ounce for every pound of body weight.

If at all possible, forget about ingesting ANYTHING

that is chemically processed! The more natural your

foods, the faster you will make progress. After you

get well underway, you can add a little honey for

sweetener (raw if possible).

Sugar feeds fungus/yeast/Candida . . . This is one way

to determine that you have a problem! Giving up sugar

can be really, really tough because the fungal

organisms are screaming " Feed me, Feed me. " After a

few weeks of being sugar free, you'll find sweet

things aren't appealing anymore.

Something else to consider is a fast. Patty is the

person to talk to about fasting. By cutting off the

food supply,, the fungal organisms die off. Eating

natural, organic foods puts the beneficial organisms

back!

Patty is a testament to living well with alternative

health. She is the picture of health - not a sign of

age. She absolutely glows! She hasn't told the group

about all the things she does to maintain her health

lately. If she has time maybe she'll share her program

with us.

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Rogene,

Thank you for the kind compliments. I would love to share my way of

living with everyone---it's all what we talk about here! I'll try to

put it into a list form easy on the eye, but truly, it is a simple way

of life that focuses on eating God's way, avoiding toxins, and

prompting my body to give up toxins and cleanse itself. I'd have to

say it is like the Maker's Diet for the most part.

I don't use fake or highly processed fats, (only organic coconut oil,

organic butter, or olive oil)

no fake sugars (only honey or sucanat or stevia),

no substitutes of any kind (always the real thing!),

no microwave cooking at all,

don't use drugs of any kind,

use minimal supplements these days (Garden of Life products), and

eat as little processed food as possible.

We eat wild game meats for protein,

eat organic fruits and vegetables as much as possible,

have cut out starches almost completely (gave up potatoes, which I

LOVE, and

eat very little bread, very little rice), and

drink primarily water and tea.

We also use raw milk exclusively for our dairy needs (I make my own

yogurt with a Salton yogurt maker--very easy) and

eat only raw milk cheeses.

I grind my own flour using a stone grinding mill, but

baking goodies is a rare treat in our house. The grinder I use makes

it a snap to use.

So, breakfast focuses on fruits or smoothies with raw milk yogurt, or

eggs and cheese. I add flax for fiber in the smoothies, or have

oatmeal that I add bran to for the extra fiber.

Lunches are various salads,

dinners are salads too, or casseroles with meats and vegetables. I've

got a freezer full of venison, so I don't buy grocery store beef. WE

also love salmon and halibut, (deep ocean fish).

I read all labels of products before I buy them and do NOT buy things

with partially hydrogenated oils, or high fructose corn syrup. I think

these two things have done more to destroy the health of America than

most all the other foods combined. It's very slim pickings at the

grocery store when you cut out products with these two ingredients,

but trust me....I've got 4 kids, so I know how difficult it can be.

It can be done! My kids have adapted to our more strict diet very

well, and in fact, are somewhat of a spectacle to their friends who

still eat french fries and drink soda pop. My kids don't! Wild Oats

and other health food stores carry products that don't have these

ingredients. You just need to find them, and then remember those

staples for your pantry.

I do cleansing routines that use the coffee enemas, and we have a

jacuzzi and infrared sauna that we use occasionally. I don't have any

big routine that I follow anymore, because this has all become just a

simple way of life. We fast (water only) on occasion. Otherwise,

eating well, making choices not to consume certain substances, and

periodic cleansing are what we do to stay healthy.

Sleep is vital....we are in bed by 9-10 pm most nights.

We don't drink alcohol...only a rare, rare glass of wine.

Yet, through all of these lifestyle changes, we have continued to

enjoy life to the full. These choices are not burdensome anymore. My

meat and potatoes man has become a devoted salad eater, and actually

prefers salad to meat now.

There's only one thing we need to do more of, and that is

exercise....we're really bad at sticking to any sort of exercise

routine. That's the only thing I would change, but we are an active

family, always on the go. When I was in India, the leader was

surprised at my energy!

I'd have to say that is a testament to the fact that we can get better

and better. When I got sick from my implants, I felt like I wanted to

die. I felt totally poisoned and near death. Now I love to live life

and live it to the full.

Of course, I have to say this Rogene...that it is my faith in my Lord

Jesus Christ that sustains me, and without His presence in my life, I

would be nothing. He has healed me and brought a newness of life to

my bones that is ALL about Him. I had to surrender everything to

Him. He took away all the gunk in my life and replaced it with His

treasures, which are priceless. When we get our focus off of the

worthless things in this life, and onto the priceless treasures

awaiting us in a relationship with Christ, He makes all things new!

Love,

Patty

> Patty is a testament to living well with alternative

> health. She is the picture of health - not a sign of

> age. She absolutely glows! She hasn't told the group

> about all the things she does to maintain her health

> lately. If she has time maybe she'll share her program

> with us.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

[Guest guest]

Patty

Thanks so much for sharing your routine with us. It so good to have

you back. You are always such a wonderful inspiration and mentor to

us all.

love, kathy

> Rogene,

> Thank you for the kind compliments. I would love to share my way

of

> living with everyone---it's all what we talk about here! I'll try

to

> put it into a list form easy on the eye, but truly, it is a simple

way

> of life that focuses on eating God's way, avoiding toxins, and

> prompting my body to give up toxins and cleanse itself. I'd have

to

> say it is like the Maker's Diet for the most part.

>

> I don't use fake or highly processed fats, (only organic coconut

oil,

> organic butter, or olive oil)

> no fake sugars (only honey or sucanat or stevia),

> no substitutes of any kind (always the real thing!),

> no microwave cooking at all,

> don't use drugs of any kind,

> use minimal supplements these days (Garden of Life products), and

> eat as little processed food as possible.

> We eat wild game meats for protein,

> eat organic fruits and vegetables as much as possible,

> have cut out starches almost completely (gave up potatoes, which I

> LOVE, and

> eat very little bread, very little rice), and

> drink primarily water and tea.

> We also use raw milk exclusively for our dairy needs (I make my

own

> yogurt with a Salton yogurt maker--very easy) and

> eat only raw milk cheeses.

> I grind my own flour using a stone grinding mill, but

> baking goodies is a rare treat in our house. The grinder I use

makes

> it a snap to use.

>

> So, breakfast focuses on fruits or smoothies with raw milk yogurt,

or

> eggs and cheese. I add flax for fiber in the smoothies, or have

> oatmeal that I add bran to for the extra fiber.

>

> Lunches are various salads,

> dinners are salads too, or casseroles with meats and vegetables.

I've

> got a freezer full of venison, so I don't buy grocery store beef.

WE

> also love salmon and halibut, (deep ocean fish).

>

> I read all labels of products before I buy them and do NOT buy

things

> with partially hydrogenated oils, or high fructose corn syrup. I

think

> these two things have done more to destroy the health of America

than

> most all the other foods combined. It's very slim pickings at the

> grocery store when you cut out products with these two

ingredients,

> but trust me....I've got 4 kids, so I know how difficult it can

be.

> It can be done! My kids have adapted to our more strict diet very

> well, and in fact, are somewhat of a spectacle to their friends

who

> still eat french fries and drink soda pop. My kids don't! Wild

Oats

> and other health food stores carry products that don't have these

> ingredients. You just need to find them, and then remember those

> staples for your pantry.

>

> I do cleansing routines that use the coffee enemas, and we have a

> jacuzzi and infrared sauna that we use occasionally. I don't have

any

> big routine that I follow anymore, because this has all become

just a

> simple way of life. We fast (water only) on occasion. Otherwise,

> eating well, making choices not to consume certain substances, and

> periodic cleansing are what we do to stay healthy.

>

> Sleep is vital....we are in bed by 9-10 pm most nights.

> We don't drink alcohol...only a rare, rare glass of wine.

>

> Yet, through all of these lifestyle changes, we have continued to

> enjoy life to the full. These choices are not burdensome

anymore. My

> meat and potatoes man has become a devoted salad eater, and

actually

> prefers salad to meat now.

>

> There's only one thing we need to do more of, and that is

> exercise....we're really bad at sticking to any sort of exercise

> routine. That's the only thing I would change, but we are an

active

> family, always on the go. When I was in India, the leader was

> surprised at my energy!

>

> I'd have to say that is a testament to the fact that we can get

better

> and better. When I got sick from my implants, I felt like I

wanted to

> die. I felt totally poisoned and near death. Now I love to live

life

> and live it to the full.

>

> Of course, I have to say this Rogene...that it is my faith in my

Lord

> Jesus Christ that sustains me, and without His presence in my

life, I

> would be nothing. He has healed me and brought a newness of life

to

> my bones that is ALL about Him. I had to surrender everything to

> Him. He took away all the gunk in my life and replaced it with

His

> treasures, which are priceless. When we get our focus off of the

> worthless things in this life, and onto the priceless treasures

> awaiting us in a relationship with Christ, He makes all things new!

> Love,

> Patty

>

>

>

>

>

>

> --- In , Rogene S <saxony01@y...>

wrote:

> > Patty is a testament to living well with alternative

> > health. She is the picture of health - not a sign of

> > age. She absolutely glows! She hasn't told the group

> > about all the things she does to maintain her health

> > lately. If she has time maybe she'll share her program

> > with us.

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> > Rogene