Guest guest Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Hi Dawn, I think that I told you but I had my thyroid tested about 4 times and it always checks out ok. I had T3, T4 and TSH levels all tested. I've been to several doctors to have the levels tested and told them that I'd like to be put on the meds anyway. I read somewhere that even though your thryroid levels are normal, there could be a problem with the thyroid. Since I have three nodules on the thyroid I begged all of them to put me on these meds and all have refused. I don't get it. So how do you get the doctor to prescribe the medication if your thyroid does test as normal? Dawn A <daldre@...> wrote: Hi Beth!I know you are still so sick. I've been detoxing ever since I became sick and maybe that was why I got better quick. I think that doing the sauna, juice fasting, taking the herbal supplements are what got me over the hump. Plus I was on thyroid meds which may have given me an edge. Sometimes we need to support the thyroid ( EVEN IF THE TESTS ARE "NORMAL") to get a leg up on the other issues. I became quite overdosed rather quickly after explant though. We have to be so aggressive toward recovery and I am a nut.... did I have to tell you that?Love...Dawn> Hi Dawn,> > That is wonderful news. I'm so jealous because I'm still sick and had my explant in November. My hair is starting to grow back. Maybe with your knowledge of herbal supplements I can get well like you.> > I had my implants for 8 years. I've heard that the longer you have them the longer it takes to get better.> > I'm happy for you! Congratulations!> > > Beth S.> "Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole." - Caras > > > > > ---------------------------------> Sports> Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy FootballOpinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Beth, My levels were always completely normal from the get go. My Tsh was approximately .84... My t3 and t4 free were both completely normal within the upper 1/3 of the range. The only reason I scrambled and pushed and ultimately did get thyroid medication was because I was told by my ps that implants could not possibly be doing this to me. So, I plugged in my symptoms and thyroid disorder kept coming up. And symptomatic doctors, especially endocrinologists are so dumb that they don't even recognize the new TSH range and will call you normal. If the TSH is over 2.0 it is highly suspect of a thyroid disorder according to the new guidelines set by the American Endocrinological Association ( i think that's it). The thyroid meds were the only thing that got me through three years of hell. Dawn > > Hi Dawn, > > > > That is wonderful news. I'm so jealous because I'm still sick and > had my explant in November. My hair is starting to grow back. > Maybe with your knowledge of herbal supplements I can get well like > you. > > > > I had my implants for 8 years. I've heard that the longer you > have them the longer it takes to get better. > > > > I'm happy for you! Congratulations! > > > > > > Beth S. > > " Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole. " - > Caras > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Sports > > Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Dawn, I went through the same thing. All my symptoms were more or less thyroid related due to the implants. I was told that if it isn't a thyroid problem and they give me the meds, it could really make me ill. I had already been ill and was willing to take the chance. I think that these doctors are just too cautious because they are afraid of being sued. Dawn A <daldre@...> wrote: Beth,My levels were always completely normal from the get go. My Tsh was approximately .84... My t3 and t4 free were both completely normal within the upper 1/3 of the range.The only reason I scrambled and pushed and ultimately did get thyroid medication was because I was told by my ps that implants could not possibly be doing this to me. So, I plugged in my symptoms and thyroid disorder kept coming up. And symptomatic doctors, especially endocrinologists are so dumb that they don't even recognize the new TSH range and will call you normal. If the TSH is over 2.0 it is highly suspect of a thyroid disorder according to the new guidelines set by the American Endocrinological Association ( i think that's it).The thyroid meds were the only thing that got me through three years of hell.Dawn> > Hi Dawn,> > > > That is wonderful news. I'm so jealous because I'm still sick and > had my explant in November. My hair is starting to grow back. > Maybe with your knowledge of herbal supplements I can get well like > you.> > > > I had my implants for 8 years. I've heard that the longer you > have them the longer it takes to get better.> > > > I'm happy for you! Congratulations!> > > > > > Beth S.> > "Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole." - > Caras > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > Sports> > Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football> > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. > > "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Beth, No, quite the contrary, I believe that the doctors and Pharm. companies have quite an investment in keeping you ill. Look at all the symptoms we have that can be treated with additional medication... pain meds, anti depressants, hyper tension meds, on and on... there is a drug for every ill.... that is why we call it " Symptomatic Medicine " they continually treat symptoms without finding the source as a holistic practitioner would. Dawn > > > Hi Dawn, > > > > > > That is wonderful news. I'm so jealous because I'm still sick > and > > had my explant in November. My hair is starting to grow back. > > Maybe with your knowledge of herbal supplements I can get well > like > > you. > > > > > > I had my implants for 8 years. I've heard that the longer you > > have them the longer it takes to get better. > > > > > > I'm happy for you! Congratulations! > > > > > > > > > Beth S. > > > " Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives > whole. " - > > Caras > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Sports > > > Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football > > > > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given > by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or > licensed health care professional before commencing any medical > treatment. > > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians > mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own > decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a > better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, > Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Whats worse, is if the medication is the source of ALL the problems to begin with and you don't know it? HMM... >From: " Dawn A " <daldre@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Thyroid Meds - Dawn >Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:08:28 -0000 > >Beth, >No, quite the contrary, I believe that the doctors and Pharm. >companies have quite an investment in keeping you ill. Look at all >the symptoms we have that can be treated with additional >medication... pain meds, anti depressants, hyper tension meds, on >and on... there is a drug for every ill.... that is why we call >it " Symptomatic Medicine " they continually treat symptoms without >finding the source as a holistic practitioner would. > >Dawn > > > > > > Hi Dawn, > > > > > > > > That is wonderful news. I'm so jealous because I'm still sick > > and > > > had my explant in November. My hair is starting to grow back. > > > Maybe with your knowledge of herbal supplements I can get well > > like > > > you. > > > > > > > > I had my implants for 8 years. I've heard that the longer you > > > have them the longer it takes to get better. > > > > > > > > I'm happy for you! Congratulations! > > > > > > > > > > > > Beth S. > > > > " Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives > > whole. " - > > > Caras > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Sports > > > > Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice >given > > by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or > > licensed health care professional before commencing any medical > > treatment. > > > > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians > > mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own > > decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a > > better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, > > Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Dawn, Yes, you have a very good point. I just know that here in Pennsylvania we lost alot of our doctors because so many people were suing. Apparantely there were more lawsuits in this state than any other. This caused malpractice insurance to sky rocket and in turn, many doctors left the state. I know that I have been feeling it. I can't find a good doctor (that is an oxy-moron) and when I do find a doctor, I have to wait about 3 months to get an appointment. Its crazy in this state!Dawn A <daldre@...> wrote: Beth,No, quite the contrary, I believe that the doctors and Pharm. companies have quite an investment in keeping you ill. Look at all the symptoms we have that can be treated with additional medication... pain meds, anti depressants, hyper tension meds, on and on... there is a drug for every ill.... that is why we call it "Symptomatic Medicine" they continually treat symptoms without finding the source as a holistic practitioner would.Dawn> > > Hi Dawn,> > > > > > That is wonderful news. I'm so jealous because I'm still sick > and > > had my explant in November. My hair is starting to grow back. > > Maybe with your knowledge of herbal supplements I can get well > like > > you.> > > > > > I had my implants for 8 years. I've heard that the longer you > > have them the longer it takes to get better.> > > > > > I'm happy for you! Congratulations!> > > > > > > > > Beth S.> > > "Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives > whole." - > > Caras > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > > Sports> > > Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football> > > > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given > by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or > licensed health care professional before commencing any medical > treatment. > > > > "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians > mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own > decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a > better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 They told everyone in our state that the lawsuits were causing the doctors to leave too. Not so... We don't even have punitive damages in this state. You can not sue your HMO and the pharamcutical companies have a blanket of protection in most states so you can't sue them, and if you do you can not win. I was lucky to be able to set a presidence in our state last year in Federal court that removed the blanket of protection from cosmetic surgery products only. The doctors are leaving because the insurance complanies are racking them over the coles and blaming it on women who have illnesses cause by a pharacutical comany and other people that have been injured thrrough the neglegence of others and have no recourse to get the help they need. When people don't sue the billioniares that sold them the product that made them sick then the TAX payers pay for the medical costs and not the responsible parties. The reason the my case was the only one I know of that actually make it to trial in this state is because WE HAVE NO PUNITIVE DAMAGES and most states that due are capped at 250,000. Huge settlement awards for one and nothing for the others isn't fair. But you can bet your bottom dollar as soon as one person sue they change the laws to prevent anyone else from getting the help they need. I've watched it happen. Lana >From: " Beth S. " <schaffe88@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Re: Thyroid Meds - Dawn >Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:28:12 -0700 (PDT) > >Dawn, > >Yes, you have a very good point. I just know that here in Pennsylvania we >lost alot of our doctors because so many people were suing. Apparantely >there were more lawsuits in this state than any other. This caused >malpractice insurance to sky rocket and in turn, many doctors left the >state. > >I know that I have been feeling it. I can't find a good doctor (that is an >oxy-moron) and when I do find a doctor, I have to wait about 3 months to >get an appointment. Its crazy in this state! > >Dawn A <daldre@...> wrote: >Beth, >No, quite the contrary, I believe that the doctors and Pharm. >companies have quite an investment in keeping you ill. Look at all >the symptoms we have that can be treated with additional >medication... pain meds, anti depressants, hyper tension meds, on >and on... there is a drug for every ill.... that is why we call >it " Symptomatic Medicine " they continually treat symptoms without >finding the source as a holistic practitioner would. > >Dawn > > > > > > Hi Dawn, > > > > > > > > That is wonderful news. I'm so jealous because I'm still sick > > and > > > had my explant in November. My hair is starting to grow back. > > > Maybe with your knowledge of herbal supplements I can get well > > like > > > you. > > > > > > > > I had my implants for 8 years. I've heard that the longer you > > > have them the longer it takes to get better. > > > > > > > > I'm happy for you! Congratulations! > > > > > > > > > > > > Beth S. > > > > " Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives > > whole. " - > > > Caras > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Sports > > > > Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice >given > > by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or > > licensed health care professional before commencing any medical > > treatment. > > > > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians > > mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own > > decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a > > better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, > > Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Hi, I believe that the doctors absolutely want to keep you ill. I don't disagree with you there. However, here in Philadelphia you literally have to beg for any medication. This is what I have experienced. My last visit to the rheumatologist was another begging session. I told him that I started taking herbal supplements and he told me that he didn't want me taking any other meds while on them. I asked him what I should do for my achy joints and sleep problems. He refused to prescribe anything. I have experienced this many times. They do not want to prescribe any meds. The only thing I'm taking now is Klonopin and have been on it for years. I have a very difficult time sleeping because my system is used to it. Any doctor I go to refuses to increase my dosage. So I have to take a benadryl just in order to sleep. Has anyone else experienced this? It sounds like just the opposite. Even after my explant, it was like terrible to try and get pain medication. I was prescribed only one weeks worth of perkocet. After that I was told to take tylenol for pain.Lana Transue <lanadearest@...> wrote: Whats worse, is if the medication is the source of ALL the problems to begin with and you don't know it? HMM...>From: "Dawn A" <daldre@...>>Reply- > >Subject: Re: Thyroid Meds - Dawn>Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:08:28 -0000>>Beth,>No, quite the contrary, I believe that the doctors and Pharm.>companies have quite an investment in keeping you ill. Look at all>the symptoms we have that can be treated with additional>medication... pain meds, anti depressants, hyper tension meds, on>and on... there is a drug for every ill.... that is why we call>it "Symptomatic Medicine" they continually treat symptoms without>finding the source as a holistic practitioner would.>>Dawn>>> > > > Hi Dawn,> > > >> > > > That is wonderful news. I'm so jealous because I'm still sick> > and> > > had my explant in November. My hair is starting to grow back.> > > Maybe with your knowledge of herbal supplements I can get well> > like> > > you.> > > >> > > > I had my implants for 8 years. I've heard that the longer you> > > have them the longer it takes to get better.> > > >> > > > I'm happy for you! Congratulations!> > > >> > > >> > > > Beth S.> > > > "Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives> > whole." -> > > Caras> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ---------------------------------> > > > Sports> > > > Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice>given> > by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or> > licensed health care professional before commencing any medical> > treatment.> > >> > > "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians> > mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own> > decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a> > better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,> > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Interesting it was our rheumatologist who took the hypersensitivie tests and told us to stay away from silicon dioxide. Benadryl is loaded with silicon dioxide. Read the label! You should really be taking liquid hydroxizine. It's a silicon free allery medication. Have you check the ingredients in the klonopin? I would if I were you. It amazes me to see how many of you are taking medications that you shouldn't be. No wonder everyone is so damn sick! Lana >From: " Beth S. " <schaffe88@...> >Reply- > >Subject: RE: Re: Thyroid Meds - Dawn >Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:07:44 -0700 (PDT) > >Hi, > >I believe that the doctors absolutely want to keep you ill. I don't >disagree with you there. However, here in Philadelphia you literally have >to beg for any medication. This is what I have experienced. My last visit >to the rheumatologist was another begging session. I told him that I >started taking herbal supplements and he told me that he didn't want me >taking any other meds while on them. I asked him what I should do for my >achy joints and sleep problems. He refused to prescribe anything. > >I have experienced this many times. They do not want to prescribe any >meds. The only thing I'm taking now is Klonopin and have been on it for >years. I have a very difficult time sleeping because my system is used to >it. Any doctor I go to refuses to increase my dosage. So I have to take a >benadryl just in order to sleep. > >Has anyone else experienced this? It sounds like just the opposite. > >Even after my explant, it was like terrible to try and get pain medication. > I was prescribed only one weeks worth of perkocet. After that I was told >to take tylenol for pain. > >Lana Transue <lanadearest@...> wrote: >Whats worse, is if the medication is the source of ALL the problems to >begin >with and you don't know it? HMM... > > >From: " Dawn A " <daldre@...> > >Reply- > > > >Subject: Re: Thyroid Meds - Dawn > >Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:08:28 -0000 > > > >Beth, > >No, quite the contrary, I believe that the doctors and Pharm. > >companies have quite an investment in keeping you ill. Look at all > >the symptoms we have that can be treated with additional > >medication... pain meds, anti depressants, hyper tension meds, on > >and on... there is a drug for every ill.... that is why we call > >it " Symptomatic Medicine " they continually treat symptoms without > >finding the source as a holistic practitioner would. > > > >Dawn > > > > > > > > > Hi Dawn, > > > > > > > > > > That is wonderful news. I'm so jealous because I'm still sick > > > and > > > > had my explant in November. My hair is starting to grow back. > > > > Maybe with your knowledge of herbal supplements I can get well > > > like > > > > you. > > > > > > > > > > I had my implants for 8 years. I've heard that the longer you > > > > have them the longer it takes to get better. > > > > > > > > > > I'm happy for you! Congratulations! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beth S. > > > > > " Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives > > > whole. " - > > > > Caras > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > Sports > > > > > Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice > >given > > > by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or > > > licensed health care professional before commencing any medical > > > treatment. > > > > > > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians > > > mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own > > > decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a > > > better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, > > > Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Lana, I suspect you have information that very few people in this entire country have . . . Including the specialists! . . . Keep sharing! Which OTC medications/supplements don't have any silicon? Is there a certain brand that doesn't? Rogene --- Lana Transue <lanadearest@...> wrote: > Interesting it was our rheumatologist who took the > hypersensitivie tests and > told us to stay away from silicon dioxide. Benadryl > is loaded with silicon > dioxide. Read the label! You should really be taking > liquid hydroxizine. > It's a silicon free allery medication. Have you > check the ingredients in the > klonopin? I would if I were you. It amazes me to see > how many of you are > taking medications that you shouldn't be. No wonder > everyone is so damn > sick! Lana > > >From: " Beth S. " <schaffe88@...> > >Reply- > > > >Subject: RE: Re: Thyroid Meds - > Dawn > >Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:07:44 -0700 (PDT) > > > >Hi, > > > >I believe that the doctors absolutely want to keep > you ill. I don't > >disagree with you there. However, here in > Philadelphia you literally have > >to beg for any medication. This is what I have > experienced. My last visit > >to the rheumatologist was another begging session. > I told him that I > >started taking herbal supplements and he told me > that he didn't want me > >taking any other meds while on them. I asked him > what I should do for my > >achy joints and sleep problems. He refused to > prescribe anything. > > > >I have experienced this many times. They do not > want to prescribe any > >meds. The only thing I'm taking now is Klonopin > and have been on it for > >years. I have a very difficult time sleeping > because my system is used to > >it. Any doctor I go to refuses to increase my > dosage. So I have to take a > >benadryl just in order to sleep. > > > >Has anyone else experienced this? It sounds like > just the opposite. > > > >Even after my explant, it was like terrible to try > and get pain medication. > > I was prescribed only one weeks worth of > perkocet. After that I was told > >to take tylenol for pain. > > > >Lana Transue <lanadearest@...> wrote: > >Whats worse, is if the medication is the source of > ALL the problems to > >begin > >with and you don't know it? HMM... > > > > >From: " Dawn A " <daldre@...> > > >Reply- > > > > > >Subject: Re: Thyroid Meds - Dawn > > >Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:08:28 -0000 > > > > > >Beth, > > >No, quite the contrary, I believe that the > doctors and Pharm. > > >companies have quite an investment in keeping you > ill. Look at all > > >the symptoms we have that can be treated with > additional > > >medication... pain meds, anti depressants, hyper > tension meds, on > > >and on... there is a drug for every ill.... that > is why we call > > >it " Symptomatic Medicine " they continually treat > symptoms without > > >finding the source as a holistic practitioner > would. > > > > > >Dawn > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Beth! > > > > > I know you are still so sick. I've been > detoxing ever since I > > > > became > > > > > sick and maybe that was why I got better > quick. I think that > > >doing > > > > > the sauna, juice fasting, taking the herbal > supplements are what > > > > got > > > > > me over the hump. Plus I was on thyroid meds > which may have > > >given > > > > me > > > > > an edge. Sometimes we need to support the > thyroid ( EVEN IF THE > > > > > TESTS ARE " NORMAL " ) to get a leg up on the > other issues. I > > >became > > > > > quite overdosed rather quickly after explant > though. > > > > > > > > > > We have to be so aggressive toward recovery > and I am a nut.... > > >did > > > > I > > > > > have to tell you that? > > > > > Love... > > > > > Dawn > > > > > > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 I just checked on the medication Klonopin and I don't see any silicon in the things they have listed. I also don't see what they re ausing as an anti-caking agent so i will look into this further tommorow morning. I have no idea which drugs don't have it niether do the doctors or even the pharamisists. I know there are fifty different kinds of amoxicillian and I think fourty nine of them have it. I know benedryl has it. One of the Claritians has it one doesn't. You have to be diligent about reading the active and most importand of all THE INACTIVE thats were you usually find it. lana >From: Rogene S <saxony01@...> >Reply- > , SiliconeKids ><siliconekids > >Subject: RE: Re: Thyroid Meds - Dawn >Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:02:43 -0700 (PDT) > >Lana, > >I suspect you have information that very few people in >this entire country have . . . Including the >specialists! . . . Keep sharing! > >Which OTC medications/supplements don't have any >silicon? Is there a certain brand that doesn't? > >Rogene > > > >--- Lana Transue <lanadearest@...> wrote: > > > Interesting it was our rheumatologist who took the > > hypersensitivie tests and > > told us to stay away from silicon dioxide. Benadryl > > is loaded with silicon > > dioxide. Read the label! You should really be taking > > liquid hydroxizine. > > It's a silicon free allery medication. Have you > > check the ingredients in the > > klonopin? I would if I were you. It amazes me to see > > how many of you are > > taking medications that you shouldn't be. No wonder > > everyone is so damn > > sick! Lana > > > > >From: " Beth S. " <schaffe88@...> > > >Reply- > > > > > >Subject: RE: Re: Thyroid Meds - > > Dawn > > >Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:07:44 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > >Hi, > > > > > >I believe that the doctors absolutely want to keep > > you ill. I don't > > >disagree with you there. However, here in > > Philadelphia you literally have > > >to beg for any medication. This is what I have > > experienced. My last visit > > >to the rheumatologist was another begging session. > > I told him that I > > >started taking herbal supplements and he told me > > that he didn't want me > > >taking any other meds while on them. I asked him > > what I should do for my > > >achy joints and sleep problems. He refused to > > prescribe anything. > > > > > >I have experienced this many times. They do not > > want to prescribe any > > >meds. The only thing I'm taking now is Klonopin > > and have been on it for > > >years. I have a very difficult time sleeping > > because my system is used to > > >it. Any doctor I go to refuses to increase my > > dosage. So I have to take a > > >benadryl just in order to sleep. > > > > > >Has anyone else experienced this? It sounds like > > just the opposite. > > > > > >Even after my explant, it was like terrible to try > > and get pain medication. > > > I was prescribed only one weeks worth of > > perkocet. After that I was told > > >to take tylenol for pain. > > > > > >Lana Transue <lanadearest@...> wrote: > > >Whats worse, is if the medication is the source of > > ALL the problems to > > >begin > > >with and you don't know it? HMM... > > > > > > >From: " Dawn A " <daldre@...> > > > >Reply- > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Thyroid Meds - Dawn > > > >Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:08:28 -0000 > > > > > > > >Beth, > > > >No, quite the contrary, I believe that the > > doctors and Pharm. > > > >companies have quite an investment in keeping you > > ill. Look at all > > > >the symptoms we have that can be treated with > > additional > > > >medication... pain meds, anti depressants, hyper > > tension meds, on > > > >and on... there is a drug for every ill.... that > > is why we call > > > >it " Symptomatic Medicine " they continually treat > > symptoms without > > > >finding the source as a holistic practitioner > > would. > > > > > > > >Dawn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Beth! > > > > > > I know you are still so sick. I've been > > detoxing ever since I > > > > > became > > > > > > sick and maybe that was why I got better > > quick. I think that > > > >doing > > > > > > the sauna, juice fasting, taking the herbal > > supplements are what > > > > > got > > > > > > me over the hump. Plus I was on thyroid meds > > which may have > > > >given > > > > > me > > > > > > an edge. Sometimes we need to support the > > thyroid ( EVEN IF THE > > > > > > TESTS ARE " NORMAL " ) to get a leg up on the > > other issues. I > > > >became > > > > > > quite overdosed rather quickly after explant > > though. > > > > > > > > > > > > We have to be so aggressive toward recovery > > and I am a nut.... > > > >did > > > > > I > > > > > > have to tell you that? > > > > > > Love... > > > > > > Dawn > > > > > > > > >=== message truncated === > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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