Re: New Person - Help!

[Guest guest]

Welcome . . .

You sound like almost all the women who come here

after getting implants.

We can help you find a doctor who will remove them

correctly (en bloc, with drains) if you'll let us know

where you live. We don't have doctors everywhere - but

we can give you questions to ask you local doctors to

see if you can have it done locally.

There's a very good chance that your saline implants

have a defective valve made by Mentor. This valve

allows fluids to pass back and forth between your body

and the implant. This can cause a serious buildup of

dangerous bacteria. This alone is enough to make you

very sick. Also, as an implant ages, it begins to

break down, distributing microscopic bits of silicone

through your body.

It's important to have them removed . . . the sooner

the better. You may check with Toxic Discovery

<toxicdiscovery@...>. They recently

asked about women who need to have their implants

removed, but cannot afford to.

Also call Deb 1-866-744-0077 - she's planning a

clinical trial to prove the effects of saline

implants. She will be collecting data before and after

explant.

As to how you will look? . . . In the hands of a good

surgeon, you should look about the way you did before

getting your implants, if not better. If you have any

sagging, that can be taken care of with a lift

(mastopexy) at the time your implants are removed. The

surgery is usually much easier than implant surgery.

Some women go mall shopping the day after surgery.

In the meantime, there is a lot you can do to reduce

the toxic load of your body before surgery. Eat a very

healthy diet . . . No sugar, junk food, processed

foods, organic as much as possible, whole grains,

plenty of vegetables and fruits. i.e. give your body

the nutrients it needs without the chemical load.

Drink at least 1/2 ounce of pure water for every pound

of body weight. A book calls " The Maker's Diet "

outlines a perfect diet. When you're sick, making an

extreme diet change can be very stressful. If so, take

just one change at a time, working in the direction of

a healthy diet.

Virtually all the women I've seen have a systemic

fungal problem. Taking something to reduce the fungal

load like prescription Diflucan, or raw, crushed,

fresh garlic, Oil of Oregano, Fungal Defense or

Grapefruit seed extract can get you started.

Then you will need to replace the beneficial bacteria

that have been destroyed . . . We've have very good

results with Primal Defense. check

www.appleadayandbeyond.com for products and books.

We've found all the Garden of Life products to be very

good.

When it comes to treating us, Naturopaths seem to do a

better job. Allopathic doctors are united in the

concept that implants are safe and fungal infections

are rare.

Did you have your children after your implants? I

recently started a group for the families of children

who have been affected by their mothers implants.

Children's problems range from rashes and digestive

problems to deformaties. Still doctors tell women it's

safe to nurse with implants! . . . Insane!

We have a lot of suggestions for detoxing in our

archives. (Click link below). If you have any

questions after you read through them, let us know. We

have a wonderful group of caring women who've been

through what you're going through and want to help

you.

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Your experience is not unusual. We have hundreds like you that have come

to this site (maybe more than that).

Where are you? We do have some good doctors who remove implants properly

(including scar tissue) so that all the contaminants are out of your chest.

Lynda

At 06:55 AM 6/24/2005, you wrote:

>Just heard about this site. Still have saline implants...feel horrible

>most days. Never know what I will feel like when I get up. My husband

>insists my problems are due to having a 7 and 3 yr old at the age of

>44. Guess he never had two bags in his chest. Am at a loss at what to

>do. Afraid of cost, cosmetic results and what if I still feel like this

>when they are taken out. All I know is that there are days I wish I

>could rip my chest open and pull these things out! What a drastic

>mistake. Anyone feel like that too?

>

>

>

>

>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

>licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

>health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

>Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

>a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

>two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

-

Hi and welcome to our site. You are so not alone with your fears

and

feelings. We have all been there. The good news is that all of us

who have gotten past our fears and had the explant have been glad we

did. Most women are very accepting of their breasts post explant---

alot of women are glad to have their soft, real breasts back again.

They had grown to dislike the harder, rounder, unnatural implants.

A

few women find that they are actually bigger after explant then they

were before they got the implants in the first place. Most women

find

they are pretty much the same size as preimplant. I was totally

flat

before I got implants and am pretty much the same now--perhaps a

tidge

bigger. Some women get lifts with their explants --if they need

them--and

are usually quite pleased. The overwhelming majority of women are

glad to have a chance to get well and don't have a problem accepting

that their breasts might not be as pleasing to them post explant.

Most women get better at some point after explant. We have many

women who seem to feel better immediately. Others may take a little

longer. Most see good improvement right away, but still have

symptoms that need working on. Many women have had contaminated

implants and need to detox to deal with issues like candida,

bacteria, other pathogens, possible heavy metals from the implant

shell, possible silicone particles shed into the body, etc.

Everyone here has been where you are now and asked the same

questions. Many were hesitant, fearful, and possibly not supported

by family members or doctors who told them they didn't think the

implants were involved. But I would say that most of us kind of had

a gut instinct that they were involved, and after knowing the harm

that implants can do, would have not been able to continue to live

with them in their bodies knowing that as time goes on, the

potential for more and more problems due to the implants increases.

I would recommend getting them out and giving yourself the best

chance you can to get well. Nothing in life is worth more than your

health. Because nothing is enjoyable without health. We have

doctors that we can recommend and much other information about the

procedure, recovery, and detoxing. This is a very supportive and

compassionate group and we will help you in any way we can. Feel

free to ask any questions that you might have. How long have you

had your implants? What are your symptoms? Did these symptoms

start after you got the implants? If you go into the files you can

find the stories of some of the women on this site. Reading them

will probably make you more sure that your implants are involved in

the symptoms you are experiencing. Take care

Hugs, kathy

-- In , " iwebb40 " <iwebb40@y...> wrote:

> Just heard about this site. Still have saline implants...feel

horrible

> most days. Never know what I will feel like when I get up. My

husband

> insists my problems are due to having a 7 and 3 yr old at the age

of

> 44. Guess he never had two bags in his chest. Am at a loss at

what

to

> do. Afraid of cost, cosmetic results and what if I still feel like

this

> when they are taken out. All I know is that there are days I wish

I

> could rip my chest open and pull these things out! What a drastic

> mistake. Anyone feel like that too?

[Guest guest]

-Irene

Your husband being in denial is nothing new. Several of the women

here have experienced that. Yet most of these men eventually became

supportive. I can see why your husband would choose to believe that

implants didn't make you sick. As you already said, he likes them.

Also to take them out is a surgery and a worry and a financial

commitment. Plus, in my opinion men are more likely than women to

go along with whatever the doctor says. They don't question as

much. Ever send your husband to the doctor alone? How much info

did he have for you when he returned? (very little is the right

answer!). What your husband has to remember is that your health is

more important than anything. And it is very hard to have a good

marriage when you never feel well. Or be a good mom to your kids.

Also, If your husband really loves you, he will still find you

attractive. There are so many women out there who are flat and

their husbands still find them attractive. My husband is just as

loving and attracted to me as he ever was and it has not affected

our sexual relationship in the least. There are so many women out

there who have had masectomies and never had reconstruction and

their husbands don't love them any less. They are just so thankful

that the woman they love is alive! Making an appt with a plastic

surgeon that believes that implants cause illness would probably go

a long way towards helping him to feel that this surgery is in your

best interest. Dr. Feng is in Cleveland Ohio, does an excellent

job, and definitely believes that women get sick from implants. Is

that too far for you to travel to? I think your husband will come

round as you gather more info and he gets used to the idea.

Hugs, kathy

-- In , " Irene " <iwebb40@y...> wrote:

> My husband and I have almost been playing a game of tag, you're

it!

> When I read about some of the negative aspects of implants, he

will

> search the internet until he finds something to the contrary.

Truth

> is, he really likes my implants and is in denial that they may be

> doing me harm. It puts me in a dilemma . Although I know my

health

> has to come first, I am nervous and dreading the thought of what I

> will look like after removal and if I will still be attractive to

> him.

>

>

> > > Just heard about this site. Still have saline implants...feel

> horrible

> > > most days. Never know what I will feel like when I get up.

My

> husband

> > > insists my problems are due to having a 7 and 3 yr old at the

age

> of

> > > 44. Guess he never had two bags in his chest. Am at a loss at

> what to

> > > do. Afraid of cost, cosmetic results and what if I still feel

> like this

> > > when they are taken out. All I know is that there are days I

wish

> I

> > > could rip my chest open and pull these things out! What a

> drastic

> > > mistake. Anyone feel like that too?

[Guest guest]

Wow...you sound like my brain talking. You are so right. And to

tell you the truth, I know my husband would do anything in the world

to keep me healthy and happy. I believe part of it is my own

insecurity as to how he would feel deep down. Stupid, right? I have

never in my entire life been insecure or not confident about my

appearance in such a way. These impants seem to have had a negative

effect on my whole being instead of what they purport to do! No, my

husband has never gone to the doctor alone. As a matter of fact, I

have not found a doctor yet that has supported my cause. I only

moved to New Jersey from Virginia Beach only a year ago. My doctor

is in Virginia Beach and I have been communicating with him via e-

mail. Although he does not say he agrees with me as to the implants

being the cause of my various ailments, he did say my option was to

remove them and have a lift to help cosmetically...and he said to

make sure whatever surgeon I choose is board certified. Going back

to VA Beach would be an option, but with two kids and no family in NJ

to watch them would be tough. My family is on Long Island and NYC,

so if anyone knows of someone they could recommend in that area that

would be great. Thanks Kathy!

> > > > Just heard about this site. Still have saline

implants...feel

> > horrible

> > > > most days. Never know what I will feel like when I get up.

> My

> > husband

> > > > insists my problems are due to having a 7 and 3 yr old at the

> age

> > of

> > > > 44. Guess he never had two bags in his chest. Am at a loss

at

> > what to

> > > > do. Afraid of cost, cosmetic results and what if I still feel

> > like this

> > > > when they are taken out. All I know is that there are days I

> wish

> > I

> > > > could rip my chest open and pull these things out! What a

> > drastic

> > > > mistake. Anyone feel like that too?

[Guest guest]

Hey Dawn...when I hear you say you have your life and healthy back,

it gives me so much hope. Where did you go to have it done? Was it

in NYC? I am trying to not have to go back to Virginia Beach to have

it done, but I am searching for someone closer who won't destroy my

body eben more. Thanks!

> > > >Just heard about this site. Still have saline implants...feel

> > horrible

> > > >most days. Never know what I will feel like when I get up.

My

> > husband

> > > >insists my problems are due to having a 7 and 3 yr old at the

> age

> > of

> > > >44. Guess he never had two bags in his chest. Am at a loss at

> > what to

> > > >do. Afraid of cost, cosmetic results and what if I still feel

> like

> > this

> > > >when they are taken out. All I know is that there are days I

> wish I

> > > >could rip my chest open and pull these things out! What a

> drastic

> > > >mistake. Anyone feel like that too?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> given

> > by

> > > >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

> > licensed

> > > >health care professional before commencing any medical

> treatment.

> > > >

> > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> > mislead you.

> > > >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

> how

> > to live

> > > >a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

> ing,

> > > >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

I have heard that name several times now. Sounds like a great

option...thanks.

> > > > > >Just heard about this site. Still have saline

> implants...feel

> > > > horrible

> > > > > >most days. Never know what I will feel like when I get

> up.

> > My

> > > > husband

> > > > > >insists my problems are due to having a 7 and 3 yr old at

> the

> > > age

> > > > of

> > > > > >44. Guess he never had two bags in his chest. Am at a

loss

> at

> > > > what to

> > > > > >do. Afraid of cost, cosmetic results and what if I still

> feel

> > > like

> > > > this

> > > > > >when they are taken out. All I know is that there are days

> I

> > > wish I

> > > > > >could rip my chest open and pull these things out! What a

> > > drastic

> > > > > >mistake. Anyone feel like that too?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of

> advice

> > > given

> > > > by

> > > > > >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician

> or

> > > > licensed

> > > > > >health care professional before commencing any medical

> > > treatment.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> politicians

> > > > mislead you.

> > > > > >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions

> about

> > > how

> > > > to live

> > > > > >a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

> > > ing,

> > > > > >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >